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Lulu Lunette
Savage Moon Society
1207
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Posted - 2017.02.05 16:01:50 -
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Hey OP, if you're still here and want another person to weigh in...
Highsec is simply: really poor gameplay design, maybe even intentionally (accidentally). I learned early on to get out of the main areas and play the PVE out in the fringes of the game. After a few months of that and a mix of some PVP learning experiences, I found out the best PVE has PVP, it's the ones where you know or feel like there's a hunter on the way (another player) and it's like a race to finish your site before they can get to you. Or you can be the person that springs the trap to see what they bring. I've had some terrific and very romantic fights because of this. I digress, I love how I play the game so that doesn't mean you will.
If you wanna live in highsec forever - even though someone can pay off CONCORD and hold Large Ion Blaster II's to your head, then stay in the NPC corp. Or maybe learn how to be the guy that does the extortion and the threatening?
The ultra-safe highsec you wish for is the rookie systems you originally started in. You won't be running level IV's or doing 4/10's or mining anything better than Veldspar.
Reading that people can pull down 200m an hour in highsec makes me have an existential crisis - or maybe question why I play the way I do at all or even if I should anymore lol. I digress again.
The point here is the game requires you to be adaptive. I hope you don't quit too early.
@lunettelulu7
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Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
5288
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Posted - 2017.02.05 16:51:41 -
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During really awesome mission sessions, you can potentially pull-in even more than 200m ISK/hour in high-sec. I've hit 350m ISK/hour and even higher with a single account.
I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
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Mo Skor
Westworld Tours and Security
4
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Posted - 2017.02.06 13:39:00 -
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And why would no one here suggest to this poor newbie that he should make an undock bookmark to get into and out of station? |
Jenn aSide
Shinigami Miners Test Alliance Please Ignore
15099
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Posted - 2017.02.06 15:08:15 -
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JD Greentree wrote:I'm sure I will get trolled for this post but here it goes. Great game so far but this is a hard game to make isk in or even play on your main. I joined a Corp on my main that promoted PVE but it's been war decked for the last four weeks. Can't leave the base 1/2 the time as there are war targets in the area. I don't understand the pleasure one would get killing some new person in a venture with 440 k in the bank? I stay in high sec but really that is a joke with wardecks on 24/7.
I play games after work to have fun. When I purchase a game I want to play it. Not have to drop Corp to play alone so I can play safely. I have no issue with PVP but leave that to Null sec or low sec for wardecks. It just feels that this game promotes bullies and that high sec Is just a place for dirty cops (concord) to get paid off to look the other way while some person kills you.
I have done missions for the first time in a week but we just got wardecked again. Unless you stay in the starter corp there really is no safe place. High sec should be high sec.
Did it occur to you tha tyou might be doing something wrong.
I mean look at it. Right Now there are thousands of people playing EVE Online and enjoying it. If you aren't enjoying it, doesn't that suggest to you that you should try something different, or that maybe something about your attitude is interfering with your enjoyment? Are the thousands of people playing EVE at this moment and enjoying it crazy?
If you don't like war decs, why stay in the ONLY space where wardeccs matter at all? |
radkid10
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
46
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Posted - 2017.02.06 15:24:44 -
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JD Greentree wrote:I'm sure I will get trolled for this post but here it goes. Great game so far but this is a hard game to make isk in or even play on your main. I joined a Corp on my main that promoted PVE but it's been war decked for the last four weeks. Can't leave the base 1/2 the time as there are war targets in the area. I don't understand the pleasure one would get killing some new person in a venture with 440 k in the bank? I stay in high sec but really that is a joke with wardecks on 24/7.
I play games after work to have fun. When I purchase a game I want to play it. Not have to drop Corp to play alone so I can play safely. I have no issue with PVP but leave that to Null sec or low sec for wardecks. It just feels that this game promotes bullies and that high sec Is just a place for dirty cops (concord) to get paid off to look the other way while some person kills you.
I have done missions for the first time in a week but we just got wardecked again. Unless you stay in the starter corp there really is no safe place. High sec should be high sec.
join us screw Mission running come out here I make a lot more money and it's a lot safer and a lot more fun even with all the PVP **** when I mean safer I make enough money when I lose something it doesn't ******* bother me cuz I can buy it back within 15 minutes from the money I made from killing things in the asteroid belts
if you want to make money go out to 0.0 space and buy a vni and do Sanctums |
Dark Lord Trump
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
305
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Posted - 2017.02.07 00:22:48 -
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Vanessa Celtis wrote:Never join a player corp, never ever do what other players tell you to do (unless it's me) unless it's your own character as an alt alpha account as CEO. Corps are junk. Useless, boring crap. They don't teach anything, use Google to learn the game. This right here is terrible advice. Joining a corp is important because it gives you people to play with. EvE isn't as much fun alone.
I'm going to build a big wall that will keep the Gallente out, and they're going to pay for it!
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Boozbaz
Brutor Clan
41
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Posted - 2017.02.07 00:36:44 -
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Vanessa Celtis wrote:Never join a player corp, never ever do what other players tell you to do (unless it's me) unless it's your own character as an alt alpha account as CEO. Corps are junk. Useless, boring crap. They don't teach anything, use Google to learn the game.
This is terrible advice. Join a corp, join comms, and have fun. |
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
5322
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Posted - 2017.02.07 00:47:45 -
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Dark Lord Trump wrote:This right here is terrible advice. Joining a corp is important because it gives you people to play with. EvE isn't as much fun alone. Just don't dispense any character naming advice...
I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
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Antheria
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
30
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Posted - 2017.02.07 00:57:24 -
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If you look at war decs as part of this game & learn how to deal with them they can actually be fun.
There's a lot of good advice above, but for my part I'd suggest you try & make this a learning exercise. Remember knowledge is power. |
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
5327
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Posted - 2017.02.07 05:59:02 -
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Antheria wrote:If you look at war decs as part of this game & learn how to deal with them they can actually be fun.
There's a lot of good advice above, but for my part I'd suggest you try & make this a learning exercise. Remember knowledge is power. They're not really fun for new players or small corporations (as evidenced by the number of times threads on changing war decs crop up...).
I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
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Kolpo
EVE University Ivy League
4
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Posted - 2017.02.07 06:17:22 -
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Join an high sec island corp. High sec islands are regions of high sec space that are completely surrounded by low and null sec space. You can enter them with H2H wormholes: wormholes that connect an high sec island with regular high sec space. War related ship kills are rare in those regions.
It is best to join a corp with a buy back service: someone in the corp buys all your stuff in the high sec island for 80-90% of the jita buy price. He then takes the risk of transporting it(but is often an expert in this).
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Mike Adoulin
Adolescent Radioactive Pirate Hamsters
2099
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Posted - 2017.02.07 14:01:01 -
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Kolpo wrote: Join an high sec island corp. High sec islands are regions of high sec space that are completely surrounded by low and null sec space. You can enter them with H2H wormholes: wormholes that connect an high sec island with regular high sec space.
Or , you know, you can just go thru the low/null systems. It isn't hard.
Kolpo wrote: War related ship kills are rare in those regions.
Yeah.. You are completely safe on the island. Trust me.
Everything in EVE is a trap.
And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:)
You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg.
Chribba is the Chuck Norris of EVE.
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Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
5337
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Posted - 2017.02.07 14:04:20 -
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=t5kNHiGIKGQ
I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
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Zoubidah Al-Kouffarde
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
30
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Posted - 2017.02.07 23:07:34 -
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JD Greentree wrote: this is a hard game to make isk in
No it's not just buy PLEX :^)
"You would not be the first "ganker aligned" player to be found to having some issues. Here's a dark secret: there are some in AG who, because of battling gankers, have managed to get to know a few of them, found they had issues, and helped them" HW
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JD Greentree
Hedion University Amarr Empire
9
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Posted - 2017.02.08 00:12:16 -
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As I did not want to draw any attention to my Corp I obviously posted with my alpha clone. :) Thanks for the candid replies. We finally started to fight back by forming 40 man fleets. Until it is safe to do missions I will try and learn exploration and embrace PVP. Seriously though this game is experience driven and the learning curve is huge. I might be looking for a mentor in the Corp to learn more of the basics on how not to get podded. |
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
5354
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Posted - 2017.02.08 00:23:24 -
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JD Greentree wrote:As I did not want to draw any attention to my Corp I obviously posted with my alpha clone. :) Thanks for the candid replies. We finally started to fight back by forming 40 man fleets. Until it is safe to do missions I will try and learn exploration and embrace PVP. Seriously though this game is experience driven and the learning curve is huge. I might be looking for a mentor in the Corp to learn more of the basics on how not to get podded. The learning curve is a cliff (not my anaology, but I do agree with it).
Zoubidah Al-Kouffarde wrote:No it's not just buy PLEX :^) Thank you Captain Obvious!
I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
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Omar Alharazaad
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
3238
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Posted - 2017.02.08 07:13:57 -
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JD Greentree wrote:As I did not want to draw any attention to my Corp I obviously posted with my alpha clone. :) Thanks for the candid replies. We finally started to fight back by forming 40 man fleets. Until it is safe to do missions I will try and learn exploration and embrace PVP. Seriously though this game is experience driven and the learning curve is huge. I might be looking for a mentor in the Corp to learn more of the basics on how not to get podded.
Being that you're in high sec I believe, I can get you that one right here for free. When your ship starts hitting low structure align to any celestial other than the sun. As soon as you pop hit warp. Pods warp pretty much instantly. Sticking around is what gets you killed. Just don't linger in a spot for more then a few seconds, bounce around til your weapons timer drops... then dock up.
Free goodies for those who try to adapt. +1 for you.
Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.
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Lianara Dayton
Society for Peace and Unity
50
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Posted - 2017.02.09 08:39:09 -
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If you just want to run missions in highsec you should be in an NPC corp (or perhaps a one-man corp that's unattractive for war decs). Running missions and PVE in general in EVE is only a means of earning ISK to be able to PVP. For PVP you should certainly join a corp but for missioning it's better to go it alone. It's not like cooperation is required (or even advantageous) in EVE PVE. Missions are mindbogglingly boring and predictable and mining is even worse. The only exception are incursions but I don't think you need to worry about them anytime soon.
The most important advice I can give is this: don't "burn out" by playing EVE as a PVE grinding game. It'll get boring within a month and you'll simply quit. The only reason to play EVE is if you're interested in PVP - it's the only thing that EVE does well and the main/only reason normal people stay with the game for any protracted period of time. Sure, there are some crazies that enjoy repetitive mission grinding but they are the exception. Most people get bored to tears after a month or two of PVE and will simply think the game is crap. If you want a good PVE experience then this is really not the right game in my opinion. However, the amazing (and pretty much unique) PVP experience more then makes up for that.
Join a PVP corp, get yourself into 0.0 or lowsec/FW and I'm sure you'll enjoy the game way more then if you sit in highsec for months in the hopes of earning enough to be "ready" for PVP. The truth is: you're ready for PVP right now. Fly cheap ships, enjoy the game, loot targets, live wild. In my opinion that's the best way to enjoy EVE.
Also: if you join FW you can actually earn enough ISK during PVP from loyalty points to finance your PVP activity (at least if you fly cheap ships). And most decent FW corps will also provide you with free t1 ships and skills. So there's really no reason to waste your time with boring-as-heck PVE.
Lianara Dayton, Society for Peace and Unity
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Ptraci
3 R Corporation The Irukandji.
1971
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Posted - 2017.02.09 17:49:24 -
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Learn to d-scan. Run missions in low/nullsec. High sec war-deccers NEVER go to low/nullsec. They're scared.
Remember when you're in a mission site you need to be probed out. Keep d-scan active while doing the mission and if you see combat probes then it's time to leave/dock up/safe up and cloak.
Either that, or stay docked. Or leave the corp and join an npc corp because they are the only corps that don't get war-decced.
BTW mission rewards scale inversely with the sec status of the system. You will make more isk and LP points in low and nullsec. There is risk, of course, but it's minimal unless you're in a very crowded or high traffic system. |
Veyreuth
HIgh Sec Care Bears Brothers of Tangra
7
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Posted - 2017.02.09 18:36:06 -
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Most "Newbie" corporations are really for newbie CEOs. If you're looking to get a good start, I strongly encourage you to check out the corp "EVE University". There's quite a number of people I've met in my travels that got their start there, were taught the fundamentals, and have gone on to do great things. http://www.eveuniversity.org/
There are some game mechanics that serve a useful purpose, but can be somewhat punishing for new players. Don't let it get you down. The answer is, as many others have stated, to get into a better corporation, one that has the resources and desire to help you get established.
You might want to rethink your notion of nullsec... it's kind of fascinating, but nullsec is actually "safer" than highsec... You see a lot more organization and structure in the alliances out there. Players work together more and players become aware of who "belongs" in their area of space in order to band together when strangers come by.
As you get established, let me pass on a piece of advice I wish I had when I started out. Take PvP seriously... Set aside a certain percentage of all the ISK you make for ships you know will get destroyed, get yourself in a situation where you have friends you like to fly with, and get out there and play. PvP is EVE's equivalent to a golf course... It's where "business" relationships are made and grow. Once you get in a solid corp, if you can PvP and you make those relationships, the people you PvP with will know you, trust you, and likely open up doors to the more lucrative game activities. The most wealthy people in game don't do it alone... it's a team effort! PvP is your gateway into the good old boys network. |
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