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Pleasure Hub Node-514
Pleasure Hub Hotline
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Posted - 2017.02.05 07:31:18 -
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Basically keep the free yearly attribute remap token and offer a pay option to reset at any time with no cool-downs.
500 Tiancity points = 50 Chinese Yuan = $7.28 US dollars
https://pay.tiancity.com/eve/Service/ResetAttribute.aspx
Google Translate wrote:Property Point Reset Description: The attribute point reset is the EVE Online user for all non-stop status, providing the attribute point reset service platform. Each time to pay 500 points a century Tiancheng points.
Feature Description & Charges 1, the role of a role in the account to add a chance to reset the property point. 2, attribute point replacement cost is 500 points Tiancheng points / times. 3, the daily routine maintenance point attribute reset service is not available.
Attribute points to reset the account conditions 1, the normal payment, expired, demo account can be purchased. (Not including the closure account). 2, account number must have a role, not empty account number. 3, in the application operation, the account must be offline status.
Precautions: 1, through the platform to buy the property points to reset the opportunity and the game system presented a property point reset opportunity without any conflict. Note: (System presented the property point reset: in all the properties of the system point to reset the use of finished, the system will automatically fall Number a natural year, and then once again give the role of a property point reset. ) 2, attribute point reset opportunity can be used at any time, there is no time limit and will not expire. 3, the role of the property contains the system to donate the property point to reset and purchase the property point reset, the use of priority will be consumed system properties donated Point reset.
'One night hauler' The tell all story of a pleasure bot in Jita 4-4
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Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
3416
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Posted - 2017.02.05 07:44:18 -
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TQ accepted skill injectors, so why not?
I'm my own NPC alt.
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Scipio Artelius
Savage Moon Society
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Posted - 2017.02.05 07:49:37 -
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We'll accept everything CCP introduces,and loudly complain while we furiously use them.
But yeah, until attributes are removed, remap tokens available in the NES would be good. |
Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
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Posted - 2017.02.05 09:00:31 -
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Hey, so it works for other people already? I did not know that. Hahaha, I laugh so hard at CCP.
Every part of a game helps to tell a story =ƒôò
Where is Angry CONCORD guy when you need him
Osprey =ƒÜÇ
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Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
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Posted - 2017.02.05 09:06:11 -
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I've still lots of unused bonus remaps. My favourite are per / int remaps anyway. Once set, you never change it anymore.
Remove standings and insurance.
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Eternus8lux8lucis
Primus Inc. LEGIO ASTARTES ARCANUM
1240
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Posted - 2017.02.05 09:13:30 -
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It all depends on what your doing tbh. My mains I dont bother changing anymore I just skill new stuff and ignore it. Building new toons Ill often burn through all 3 remaps in a few months to get them where I want quickly and then not bother after that.
I think remaps are great for OCD people or new toons moreso than anything else. After a year or two if your really concerned about remaps you really have issues imo.
So yeah Im good with remaps being pay to use. Just let those of us that have spare remaps sell them to others as well for isk. Oh and DONT take away the yearly free one.
Have you heard anything I've said?
You said it's all circling the drain, the whole universe. Right?
That's right.
Had to end sometime.
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Neuntausend
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
1400
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Posted - 2017.02.05 10:34:49 -
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At this point, they'd probably accept about anything. They'd ***** and moan for a while and then just accept it. |
Josef Djugashvilis
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Posted - 2017.02.05 10:52:57 -
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I suspect that remaps will soon be done away with by CCP.
This is not a signature.
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Linus Gorp
Ministry of Propaganda and Morale Black Marker
762
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Posted - 2017.02.05 11:19:47 -
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Josef Djugashvilis wrote:I suspect that remaps will soon be done away with by CCP. Soon(tm) in CCPs case is an arbitrary amount of time between 'now' and 'end of time'.
When you don't know the difference between there, their, and they're, you come across as being so uneducated that your viewpoint can be safely dismissed. The literate is unlikely to learn much from the illiterate.
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Pleasure Hub Node-514
Pleasure Hub Hotline
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Posted - 2017.02.05 11:19:56 -
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Nana Skalski wrote:Hey, so it works for other people already? I did not know that. Hahaha, I laugh so hard at CCP. Yes and there is also a paid system in place for name changes.
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Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
5283
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Posted - 2017.02.05 11:39:24 -
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Just allow unlimited remaps for Omega clones.
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Brigadine Ferathine
The Valiant Vanguard The Volition Cult
136
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Posted - 2017.02.05 16:57:27 -
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No, CCP has been pushing the limits of Micro transactions in a sub based game too much already. |
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
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Posted - 2017.02.05 17:09:02 -
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Brigadine Ferathine wrote:No, CCP has been pushing the limits of Micro transactions in a sub based game too much already. Oh please. You can acquire anything in-game (including PLEX and Aurum) if you're willing to work and earn it.
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Neuntausend
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1401
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Posted - 2017.02.05 17:16:36 -
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Does it really matter who pays for your ingame bonuses, though? It's not like PLEX and AUR can actually be acquired from ingame activities. They all come straight out of somebodys wallet. |
Mr Mieyli
Hedion University Amarr Empire
388
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Posted - 2017.02.05 17:45:17 -
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Linus Gorp wrote:Josef Djugashvilis wrote:I suspect that remaps will soon be done away with by CCP. Soon(tm) in CCPs case is an arbitrary amount of time between 'now' and 'end of time'.
We can only hope that it will be before the heat death of the universe.
A case for more AoE in EvE
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Lulu Lunette
Savage Moon Society
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Posted - 2017.02.05 17:51:53 -
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I read a long time ago on former CSM Sugar Kyle's blog that CCP is probably more likely to just 'do-away' with attributes entirely.
@lunettelulu7
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Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
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Posted - 2017.02.05 17:56:57 -
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Neuntausend wrote:Does it really matter who pays for your ingame bonuses, though? It's not like PLEX and AUR can actually be acquired from ingame activities. They all come straight out of somebodys wallet. The point is that you can in fact acquire everything for free if you're willing to earn enough ISK to purchase it. There will always be players with more RL money than time, so at least EVE has a system to encourage a form of wealth redistribution.
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Chihuahuaraffe
University of Caille Gallente Federation
17
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Posted - 2017.02.05 18:06:03 -
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Arthur Aihaken wrote:Brigadine Ferathine wrote:No, CCP has been pushing the limits of Micro transactions in a sub based game too much already. Oh please. You can acquire anything in-game (including PLEX and Aurum) if you're willing to work and earn it. A difference is that here if you do that you're still paying real money to CCP indirectly because the person you're buying from with ISK paid with Real Money to CCP.
In what usually gets referred to as "f2p" these days they usually follow the "in app purchases" model where you're constantly bombarded by requirements to pay money to keep playing, and while there are sometimes alternatives, they're made to be tradeoffs in time/pain sufficient to justify paying real money for a substantial number of players.
(Actually the evolved f2p model is now to target the <1% of players with obsessive personality disorders who will spend thousands of dollars on a stupid phone app. The income distribution from f2p games is now almost all from the people who spend way above the average.) |
Sarmatiko
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Posted - 2017.02.05 18:16:14 -
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I support this of course, but quite honestly whole attribute system must go because it only hits hard low-SP characters the most (personally I stopped caring about remaps after 60-80 mil SP or so - just make one plan for a year with one remap and forget about it).
But there is another thing that I want to see from Serenity and I've advocated it here since 2013: character rename service.
When this feature was introduced on Serenity 3 years ago, people here on TQ were against it aggressively with only one subjective argument against it - "consequences of your past actions tied to your nickname". But since then we got SP-injectors and Alpha-Omega accounts - now you can create a new alt and inject any amount of SP with few clicks, effectively erasing any "bad history" you had before. Looking at that it feels like lack of character rename service only hurt those players who want to rename own characters for legitimate reasons (typos, RP factor, out of fashion pseudo-cyrilic names like MACTEP etc). |
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
5289
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Posted - 2017.02.05 18:21:37 -
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The vast majority of player suggestions are bad ideas... that is, until CCP implements them in one form or another. Then they're terrific. I still fondly recall all the discussions about removing skill books and getting reimbursement for skill points. Madness they said! And then we got skill extractors and injectors...
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Neuntausend
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1402
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Posted - 2017.02.05 18:22:25 -
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Arthur Aihaken wrote:Neuntausend wrote:Does it really matter who pays for your ingame bonuses, though? It's not like PLEX and AUR can actually be acquired from ingame activities. They all come straight out of somebodys wallet. The point is that you can in fact acquire everything for free if you're willing to earn enough ISK to purchase it. There will always be players with more RL money than time, so at least EVE has a system to encourage a form of wealth redistribution. ...or you can just skip that crap and buy yourself to the top.
This is the line of argumentation that true cut-purse P2W microtransactions games often come up with: "but you can get it in the game without paying, so it's alright". Yeah, you can get it. By opening an RNG box that drops maybe twice a day after hours of grinding with a chance of 1% to actually find what you need inside. Or you can just cough up 5 bucks and buy it. |
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
5289
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Posted - 2017.02.05 18:23:50 -
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Coming from someone in Goonswarm, this is rich...
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Neuntausend
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1403
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Posted - 2017.02.05 18:32:39 -
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Arthur Aihaken wrote:Coming from someone in Goonswarm, this is rich... You guys bought, bullied and otherwise bribed your way to the top for many years. I won't even comment on the other aspects of the game that you've unduly influenced for years... Of course we will use any possibilities offered to us. If I were to buy a PLEX and sell it on the market to reach one of my goals quicker, that merely means that I have adapted to the existing system. It does not mean I like or approve of it.
Now, I don't know what you think I or any of my corp- and alliance-mates have done, but if you have any proof showing that we bribed and bought our way to the top by means not already covered by CCP rules, I ask you to kindly put them forward.
What bullying has to do with any of this, I do not know. |
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
5290
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Posted - 2017.02.05 18:51:04 -
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I'm not really interested in devolving this thread into a "Goon this" or "Goon that" argument, suffice it to say you have entirely earned the reputaion that has befallen you.
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Neuntausend
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1403
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Posted - 2017.02.05 19:25:09 -
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Arthur Aihaken wrote:I'm not really interested in devolving this thread into a "Goon this" or "Goon that" argument, suffice it to say you have entirely earned the reputaion that has befallen you. ..... Then don't start it. I am not the one who decided to make this personal. ;)
Arthur Aihaken wrote:There's nothing wrong with microtransactions for vanity items (SKINs, clothing) ... So far, I am with you.
Quote:... or various character aspects (resculpting, renaming or remaps). I would go one further that CCP should make unique ships, modules and ammunition available for PLEX and Aurum exclusively. I'm tired of the "pay-to-win" argument because "winning" takes on different meaning for everyone, and if you're prepared to spend enough money for a certain goal you can already achieve this.
I'd rather see some really cool paid content introduced. Being able to buy a Drifter characte and ship would be totally worth it - even if a permanent suspect status was attached to it. And this is where I disagree. If you cannot see how introducing items that do not come from the player-run industry into a game that prides itself with having a real market, then you need to play the game more and start seeing the bigger picture.
Anything game relevant you can buy for money, be it material or status is bad and only serves to throw off the balance and pull money out of your pocket. Why should the guy who has plenty of money to spend be allowed to train faster or get better ships faster than the guy who doesn't? Imagine a game of checkers. One player pulls out 10 bucks and adds another piece to the field, or makes another turn right away. Does that sound like a good game to you?
And I am aware that we already have those options to a degree. That's bad, and certainly not an argument to make it even worse.
Even name change is critical. Eve is a game where your choices matter and may have consequences. For example, you are now known to me as Arthur Aihaken, the guy who tried to drag my friends through the mire, and then quickly pulled out when asked to back it up. And you cannot just rename your character to wash off that stain. And that's a good thing - it forces players to think about their decisions. |
Linus Gorp
Ministry of Propaganda and Morale Black Marker
792
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Posted - 2017.02.05 22:05:24 -
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Arthur Aihaken wrote:I'd rather see some really cool paid content introduced. Being able to buy a Drifter characte and ship would be totally worth it - even if a permanent suspect status was attached to it. Absolutely the LAST thing we need is some sort of freemium model in EVE. Paying a subscription and then paying extra for additional content?
http://0.media.dorkly.cvcdn.com/41/53/69c05d3aef6aa58977e6061e714dc90c.jpg
One of EVEs biggest selling points has always been that we do not pay extra for expansions. If that would become the case, or they start gating content behind a paywall (subscription excluded, of course), I'd quit this game for good and never look back.
When you don't know the difference between there, their, and they're, you come across as being so uneducated that your viewpoint can be safely dismissed. The literate is unlikely to learn much from the illiterate.
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Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
5301
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Posted - 2017.02.05 22:08:17 -
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EVE has already gone down the slippery slope - there's really no turning back. One can argue whether or not EVE is pay2win, but with a F2P option it's fairly apparent that it now is. Want to get better at EVE, train more skills - fly better ships? Subscribe and become an Omega. Want to augment your new Omega character? Purchase skill injectors. Want to pilot multiple ships at once? Buy another subscription and augment that character too. Want a cool limited edition CONCORD frigate, cruiser or battleship? Just buy some EVE FanFest and EVE Vegas tickets (no attendance necessary).
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Neuntausend
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1413
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Posted - 2017.02.05 22:19:18 -
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I am not quite certain what your stance on this topic is. In one post you sound like you are all for it, in the next you sound like you agree that it is bad. |
Linus Gorp
Ministry of Propaganda and Morale Black Marker
796
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Posted - 2017.02.05 23:38:01 -
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It's not really free to play, that's just what the marketing guys are writing everywhere. It's an unlimited trial that's sufficient to a certain degree.
A proficient alpha character can also totally **** the average nullsec f1 monkey, since it's not really skills or ship equipment that matter, but actual piloting skills. Something that can't be bought with money.
When you don't know the difference between there, their, and they're, you come across as being so uneducated that your viewpoint can be safely dismissed. The literate is unlikely to learn much from the illiterate.
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