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Casserina Leshrac
Sanguine Illuminations
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Posted - 2017.02.10 18:06:27 -
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So there might be a pattern to this Quarantine
I am beginning to see this less and less a coincidence. |
Casserina Leshrac
Sanguine Illuminations
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Posted - 2017.02.10 18:20:47 -
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Casserina Leshrac wrote:So there might be a pattern to this QuarantineI am beginning to see this less and less a coincidence.
The Scope News Network wrote: MUTTOKON GÇô The Scope News Network has learned that the situation in orbit of Muttokon II has escalated further this afternoon, after Freedom Extension was ordered to untether the orbital platform of their space elevator that serves the planet.
Sources within the corporation have confirmed that the order was issued to the Molden Heath Regional Director of Operations for Freedom Extension by Valkear General Heder Elislar of the Republic FleetGÇÖs Pator Command early this morning.
The low orbit platform, which serves as both a shipping platform for freight, and as a transit hub for traffic to the surface, is believed to still be populated by more than nine hundred thousand people who have been placed in GÇ£indefinite quarantineGÇ¥ by the Republic Security Services.
The Matari administration has remained silent on the reasoning for the detainment of almost a million individuals who range from maintenance personnel, to transport pilots, tourists and commuters, however the Republic Security Services released a confirmation earlier today that the severity of the situation has been upgraded from a GÇ£Class D Localized Containment EventGÇ¥ to a GÇ£Class A Full Closure Quarantine OperationGÇ¥.
Sources within Freedom Extension have confirmed that the platformGÇÖs services have been cut off from the surface, and that emergency separation charges were fired roughly two hours ago to sever the physical connection with the elevatorGÇÖs base station, leaving it drifting in orbit.
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Soldarius
O C C U P Y Test Alliance Please Ignore
1564
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Posted - 2017.02.10 18:31:25 -
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One does not sever an orbital elevator on a whim. This is a serious development.
http://youtu.be/YVkUvmDQ3HY
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Saya Ishikari
Akagi Initiative Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
520
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Posted - 2017.02.10 18:33:55 -
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Considering that the tether alone coming down will do ridiculous amounts of damage to anything in its line of impact, I'd have to agree.
"At the end of it all, we have only what we've left in our wake to be remembered by." -Kyoko Ishikari, YC 95 - YC 117
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Persephone Alleile
Tartarus Covert Operations
308
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Posted - 2017.02.10 18:34:55 -
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Troubling . . . That's almost a million lives in the balance.
The outbreak on Oijanen will be much harder to isolate, I wonder how that will be handled. |
Akrasjel Lanate
Naquatech Conglomerate Naquatech Syndicate
1956
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Posted - 2017.02.10 18:35:07 -
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GÇ£Class A Full Closure Quarantine OperationGÇ¥ that escalated quickly people will start jumping to conclusion, well they already did(Using the word starting with "K") after the last article. If it's that bad they can purge it with nuclear fire, but im no expert here.
Akrasjel Lanate
Founder and CEO of Naquatech Conglomerate
Executor of Naquatech Syndicate
Citizen of Solitude
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Pieter Tuulinen
Akagi Initiative Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
7086
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Posted - 2017.02.10 18:39:06 -
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Someone has been either digging around where they shouldn't or else meddling with something that they shouldn't.
For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead
in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a
hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.
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Mizhara Del'thul
Coreli Corporation Mercenary Coalition
1167
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Posted - 2017.02.10 18:40:12 -
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System itself remains utterly inactive and dull as far as capsuleer activity goes. It never fails to impress me that they are capable of hiding a habitat capable of housing damn near a million human beings and all that entails from even simple visual probes, not to mention the staggering array of sensor and scanning equipment on this vessel.
So, betting pool:
1. Bioweapon test or accidental release? 2. Simply a new naturally occurring bit of plague? 3. Kyonope. (Hint: It's never that) 4. Red herring. This is a distraction. 5. Interesting new STDs? (This is where my money's going. Singing genital warts that are hilariously off tune) 6. Alien Invasion 6b. Drifter STDs, see 5. 7. Someone docked a Svipul. 8. A goon was sighted in the constellation. Better safe than sorry.
Etc etc. Place your bets ladies and gentlemen. |
Casserina Leshrac
Sanguine Illuminations
41
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Posted - 2017.02.10 18:42:32 -
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I suspect with the severing of the tether, the Republic may already be facing some sort of final solution. There is only so much re-entry can destroy.
If that is the plan.
Such elevators do tend to have emergency systems in case they are cut-off from the main tether's power supply. But how long before that fails. After all there are millions there. Millions that could die.
Does not the Republic have some sort of evacuation solution for those not infected? |
Julianni Avala
Ishukone-Raata Corporate Investment Bank Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
122
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Posted - 2017.02.10 18:47:46 -
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Mizhara Del'thul wrote:System itself remains utterly inactive and dull as far as capsuleer activity goes. It never fails to impress me that they are capable of hiding a habitat capable of housing damn near a million human beings and all that entails from even simple visual probes, not to mention the staggering array of sensor and scanning equipment on this vessel.
So, betting pool:
1. Bioweapon test or accidental release? 2. Simply a new naturally occurring bit of plague? 3. Kyonope. (Hint: It's never that) 4. Red herring. This is a distraction. 5. Interesting new STDs? (This is where my money's going. Singing genital warts that are hilariously off tune) 6. Alien Invasion 6b. Drifter STDs, see 5. 7. Someone docked a Svipul. 8. A goon was sighted in the constellation. Better safe than sorry.
Etc etc. Place your bets ladies and gentlemen.
While I understand the reasoning behind wanting to throw humour on a dark and worrisome situation, this seems a bit inappropriate.
There are about a million people's lives at risk here. It's not funny. |
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Casserina Leshrac
Sanguine Illuminations
41
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Posted - 2017.02.10 18:50:59 -
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Mizhara Del'thul wrote:System itself remains utterly inactive and dull as far as capsuleer activity goes. It never fails to impress me that they are capable of hiding a habitat capable of housing damn near a million human beings and all that entails from even simple visual probes, not to mention the staggering array of sensor and scanning equipment on this vessel.
But it has us all very interested in exactly what is going on over there.
Miz the elevator, now untethered may be at low power mode to conserve energy.
Plus the Republic hasn't been free with their telemetry regarding the elevator's orbit around the planet (if that is the case).
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Mizhara Del'thul
Coreli Corporation Mercenary Coalition
1168
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Posted - 2017.02.10 18:54:54 -
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@Juli:Countless trillions of lives are at stake at any given moment. Quite a few of them at the mercy of capsuleers. If lives being at stake means that humor, dark or light, is unacceptable then New Eden will never hear another joke or laughter ever again.
If CONCORD, DED and our respective nations ever lets us actually contribute to solving these problems or helping all these people I'll square my shoulders and pitch in but until then my options are limited to apathy, humor, overly dramatic weeping or ignoring it.
I think I'll stick with resting in the glow of this gorgeous sky, watching the planet from as close an orbit as I can maintain without risking atmospheric entry and make a few jokes. That's about as much of a positive contribution the powers that be allows at this point. |
Saya Ishikari
Akagi Initiative Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
521
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Posted - 2017.02.10 18:55:18 -
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Persephone Alleile wrote:Troubling . . . That's almost a million lives in the balance.
The outbreak on Oijanen will be much harder to isolate, I wonder how that will be handled. If it's dangerous enough to warrant an orbital stranding? The obvious answer is one I'd rather not consider.
"At the end of it all, we have only what we've left in our wake to be remembered by." -Kyoko Ishikari, YC 95 - YC 117
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Agiri Falken
State War Academy Caldari State
255
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Posted - 2017.02.10 19:05:02 -
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Pieter Tuulinen wrote:Someone has been either digging around where they shouldn't or else meddling with something that they shouldn't. See, kirjuun, this is the sort of thing that gives me nightmares. Can't fight an enemy you don't know. That said, I think I'll book a shuttle, grab the battle rattle, and see if I can get a look at what the hell is going on down there. Not like I can't just ditch the clone, right? |
Julianni Avala
Ishukone-Raata Corporate Investment Bank Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
123
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Posted - 2017.02.10 19:07:05 -
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Mizhara Del'thul wrote:@Juli:Countless trillions of lives are at stake at any given moment. Quite a few of them at the mercy of capsuleers. If lives being at stake means that humor, dark or light, is unacceptable then New Eden will never hear another joke or laughter ever again.
If CONCORD, DED and our respective nations ever lets us actually contribute to solving these problems or helping all these people I'll square my shoulders and pitch in but until then my options are limited to apathy, humor, overly dramatic weeping or ignoring it.
I think I'll stick with resting in the glow of this gorgeous sky, watching the planet from as close an orbit as I can maintain without risking atmospheric entry and make a few jokes. That's about as much of a positive contribution the powers that be allows at this point.
I understand your perspective, even if I don't agree with it; there are better places for humour rather than in situations such as these, in my opinion.
Regardless, your continuous efforts thus far with what has been happening, such as your scans, surveillance, etc., are admirable. Whatever information you've been able to gather, even if none, I'm sure will help in some manner or another. |
Emiri Aneozomi
Ishukone-Raata Technological Research Institute Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
10
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Posted - 2017.02.10 19:08:22 -
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Agiri Falken wrote:See, kirjuun, this is the sort of thing that gives me nightmares. Can't fight an enemy you don't know. That said, I think I'll book a shuttle, grab the battle rattle, and see if I can get a look at what the hell is going on down there. Not like I can't just ditch the clone, right?
If you are coming to Oijanen, feel free to join the team here. I can send you coordinates.
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Mizhara Del'thul
Coreli Corporation Mercenary Coalition
1169
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Posted - 2017.02.10 19:10:40 -
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Honestly doubt it. It'd seem our attentions are so far unwanted until our most prominent talents - including destruction on scales far beyond most baseliners - are wanted. If things go that far, I suspect we're looking at far worse than just under a million people in a can though. |
Agiri Falken
State War Academy Caldari State
255
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Posted - 2017.02.10 19:12:35 -
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Emiri Aneozomi wrote:Agiri Falken wrote:See, kirjuun, this is the sort of thing that gives me nightmares. Can't fight an enemy you don't know. That said, I think I'll book a shuttle, grab the battle rattle, and see if I can get a look at what the hell is going on down there. Not like I can't just ditch the clone, right? If you are coming to Oijanen, feel free to join the team here. I can send you coordinates. Sounds like a plan. Might be able to get you your sample, if I can get there. Lowsec being the case, I might see about hitching a ride with anyone I know headed that way. |
Saya Ishikari
Akagi Initiative Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
521
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Posted - 2017.02.10 19:15:23 -
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Mizhara Del'thul wrote:Honestly doubt it. It'd seem our attentions are so far unwanted until our most prominent talents - including destruction on scales far beyond most baseliners - are wanted. If things go that far, I suspect we're looking at far worse than just under a million people in a can though. That's what worries me. The authorities waiting until that's all we CAN do, THEN asking for help.
"At the end of it all, we have only what we've left in our wake to be remembered by." -Kyoko Ishikari, YC 95 - YC 117
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Casserina Leshrac
Sanguine Illuminations
41
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Posted - 2017.02.10 19:51:57 -
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Saya Ishikari wrote:Mizhara Del'thul wrote:Honestly doubt it. It'd seem our attentions are so far unwanted until our most prominent talents - including destruction on scales far beyond most baseliners - are wanted. If things go that far, I suspect we're looking at far worse than just under a million people in a can though. That's what worries me. The authorities waiting until that's all we CAN do, THEN asking for help.
This becomes unacceptable with each passing hour. The elevator can be raise to better position (if it can be found). If needs be I will come and bring one my industrials to the thing up to a better position.
Batteries can be replaced and charged from the outside and we use drones to transport supplies to keep them alive longer.
ISK will not solve this situation.
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Ilan Ardishapur
Purity of the Throne
29
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Posted - 2017.02.10 20:04:57 -
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Casserina Leshrac wrote:This becomes unacceptable with each passing hour. The elevator can be raise to better position (if it can be found). If needs be I will come and bring one my industrials to the thing up to a better position.
Batteries can be replaced and charged from the outside and we use drones to transport supplies to keep them alive longer.
ISK will not solve this situation.
Mighty kind for a Sabik dog. |
Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
2925
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Posted - 2017.02.10 20:46:41 -
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Saya Ishikari wrote:Considering that the tether alone coming down will do ridiculous amounts of damage to anything in its line of impact, I'd have to agree.
Uh-- is there any reason to think that the charges are at the top of the tether, rather than the bottom? It's held taut by centrifugal force anyway, implying it'll snap upward if cut below, so it seems like all that damage would be a really good reason to cut the tether at the base and let the forces involved, plus the platform's thrusters, tow it into higher orbit.
Might make it easier to reconnect, too. |
Mizhara Del'thul
Coreli Corporation Mercenary Coalition
1172
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Posted - 2017.02.10 21:11:41 -
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The report isn't entirely clear on these things, but I know some space elevator designs have multiple space-side platforms. Hell, multiple tiers of them on different levels. While infuriatingly vague, that report did not say for certain that the tether itself was at any point removed, nor the 'counterweight'.
I haven't checked the registries for when this one was set up, but it should be child's play to seal off and remove a space elevator platform without the rest of the thing ending up in re-entry, unless it's a horribly outdated and poorly designed one. |
Casserina Leshrac
Sanguine Illuminations
42
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Posted - 2017.02.10 21:12:40 -
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Ilan Ardishapur wrote:Casserina Leshrac wrote:This becomes unacceptable with each passing hour. The elevator can be raise to better position (if it can be found). If needs be I will come and bring one my industrials to the thing up to a better position.
Batteries can be replaced and charged from the outside and we use drones to transport supplies to keep them alive longer.
ISK will not solve this situation.
Mighty kind for a Sabik dog.
Indeed. More kindness from a Sani Sabin then Imperial traitors.
Just remember if it can kill them. Then it will kill us.
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Saya Ishikari
Akagi Initiative Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
526
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Posted - 2017.02.10 21:14:56 -
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Aria Jenneth wrote:Saya Ishikari wrote:Considering that the tether alone coming down will do ridiculous amounts of damage to anything in its line of impact, I'd have to agree. Uh-- is there any reason to think that the charges are at the top of the tether, rather than the bottom? It's held taut by centrifugal force anyway, implying it'll snap upward if cut below, so it seems like all that damage would be a really good reason to cut the tether at the base and let the forces involved, plus the platform's thrusters, tow it into higher orbit. Might make it easier to reconnect, too. Miz brings up a good point. I couldn't begin to say how it's designed, and that will determine a lot of what happens after it's disconnected.
"At the end of it all, we have only what we've left in our wake to be remembered by." -Kyoko Ishikari, YC 95 - YC 117
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Ibrahim Tash-Murkon
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
921
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Posted - 2017.02.10 21:21:41 -
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That was how I assumed this transpired. Sever the elevator's planet-side tether, use station-keeping boosters to raise the orbit of the counterweight above geostationary enough so that the far end of the tether doesn't threaten anything on the ground (ideally as high as practical to keep as much of the tether out of the atmosphere as possible), and plan for the possible recovery and reattachment of the tether once the crisis ends.
The immediate concern would be what and how many objects are in orbit which could interfere with this approach. Because the elevator would have been assumed to always be in its geostationary position there might not have been too great care about cluttering the higher orbit with satellites or other objects. Since the authorities performed the severing anyway either the upper orbit was relatively clear, the situation was too dire not to risk it, or they did not adjust the orbit.
Longer term concerns about inhabitant welfare are serious but, hopefully, not hopeless. As previously stated there are a number of ways that even a sparsely equipped elevator counterweight (that, for some reason, lacks independent power generation and limited consumable stocks and production capability for water, food, and oxygen) can be remotely supplied in a manner that ensure sufficient supplies for those on board indefinitely.
For all the oddness of the situation what has effectively happened is that the elevator has been temporarily converted into an orbital station or ship.
With all the modern screening and containment technologies and methods available, however, one wonders what in heaven could concern the authorities so much that they would risk the loss of the elevator in order to maximize containment. I mean, after all, it was an elevator with an easily controlled, centralized single area of entry and exit. Severing it was the most extreme form of containment available short of actually destroying it.
"I give you the destiny of Faith, and you will bring its message to every planet of every star in the heavens: Go forth, conquer in my Name, and reclaim that which I have given." - Book of Reclaiming 22:13
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Graelyn
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
815
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Posted - 2017.02.10 22:09:35 -
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Well, if you need to find me, I'll be in a safe-spotted Apoc for the next few years.
Cardinal Graelyn
Resident Lecturer - Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Loyalist of the Year - YC113
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Mizhara Del'thul
Coreli Corporation Mercenary Coalition
1173
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Posted - 2017.02.10 22:18:05 -
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If you want a good vantage spot, let me know. I've got deep safes at 'ground zero' and will have to leave them vacant by tomorrow evening. |
Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
2255
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Posted - 2017.02.10 23:24:55 -
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With as quickly as that escalated, it wouldn't surprise me to hear that they were loading some dreads with phased plasma XL to do a bit of decontamination... I hope it doesn't come to that.
A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.
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Victoria Grey
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2017.02.11 06:47:29 -
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This is all starting to seem very suspicious. I've been doing my research but I can only get so far with the holoreels and and other sources that can be dredged up on the basic overview of the systems.
Has anyone seen anything come in or out of Muttokon? I haven't and I've been frequenting it. For all the Scope reporting of Republic vessels coming in and out I don't see a damned thing! Something seems weird to me and I don't like it.
Here's the information and my thoughts on it that I gathered after the initial Scope reporting.
Quote: I'm in and out of the system when I have the time. I've seen the anti-biotics that have been left behind, good call. I've entered low-orbit and have seen no activity on the planet so I can't find this elevator but I still hope and search.
On a similar note, the Scope has reported two other incidents in New Eden that have some peculiar similarities and weird discrepancies:
A level 4 Quarantine of a Freedom Extension owned Elevator on Muttokon II, Molden Heath (Matari Space). A cordoned of a Zainou medical building following a crash landing of a mysterious frigate on Oijanen II, The Forge (State Space). A secret narcotics raid of an unknown bunker by Syndicate space on Yveve II, Solitude (Federal Space).
- All are in the second planet of the System. - Every planet is Temperate and scans show can hold complex life. - Each system is in a backwater low-sec empire space system (though a diff empire each) - Each system has ZERO stations (super back-water). - Each thing happened in secret and were only reported after the fact. Oddities: - The systems are all far (kind of) from each other with the closest being Muttokon & Oijanen (19 jumps and you have to go way the hell to Amarr space and back inwards to do so.)
There has to be a connection.
Has anyone been to Oijanen II or Yveve II? What have you seen? |
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Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
2933
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Posted - 2017.02.11 15:17:01 -
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Victoria Grey wrote:Has anyone seen anything come in or out of Muttokon? I haven't and I've been frequenting it. For all the Scope reporting of Republic vessels coming in and out I don't see a damned thing! Something seems weird to me and I don't like it.
It's been a little apparent for a while that there's a whole baseline-spacer society we barely see unless somebody flags it for our attention. The systems around us are abubble with human life and activity; we just don't get to see most of it. How many asteroid colonies have you visited that have obviously been there for decades at least, but usually don't appear on sensors and scanners? How many orbital habitats?
People live relatively peacefully or deal with various small to middling crises out of our sight, and it seems that's kind of how the powers that be want it. We just get called in when there's a real problem that's worth killing with a free-willed weapon of mass destruction.
Probably we can't find this space elevator or the activity surrounding it because it's not infrastructure we interact with directly and nobody in charge wants us to find it. |
Saya Ishikari
Akagi Initiative Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
529
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Posted - 2017.02.11 15:22:52 -
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Aria Jenneth wrote:Victoria Grey wrote:Has anyone seen anything come in or out of Muttokon? I haven't and I've been frequenting it. For all the Scope reporting of Republic vessels coming in and out I don't see a damned thing! Something seems weird to me and I don't like it. It's been a little apparent for a while that there's a whole baseline-spacer society we barely see unless somebody flags it for our attention. The systems around us are abubble with human life and activity; we just don't get to see most of it. How many asteroid colonies have you visited that have obviously been there for decades at least, but usually don't appear on sensors and scanners? How many orbital habitats? People live relatively peacefully or deal with various small to middling crises out of our sight, and it seems that's kind of how the powers that be want it. We just get called in when there's a real problem that's worth killing with a free-willed weapon of mass destruction. Probably we can't find this space elevator or the activity surrounding it because it's not infrastructure we interact with directly and nobody in charge wants us to find it. We see what the firmware in our ships, heads and sensor networks lets us. Frankly, that's likely for the best.
"At the end of it all, we have only what we've left in our wake to be remembered by." -Kyoko Ishikari, YC 95 - YC 117
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Hetu Hegirin
Otherwhere Circle
45
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Posted - 2017.02.11 22:53:33 -
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I have contacted Valkear General Elislar on the matter. Whether my words warrant a response will be known soon enough.
I would encourage Republic citizens in good standing to voice your concerns, if you are so inclined. |
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