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Disposable Chick
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2017.02.14 17:53:43 -
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Ladies and Gents
Why freeport can be instantly changed to NO freeport? Good question! Aparently there is no answers to it atm and CCP turns a blind eye to Trillions (and i mean ttrillions) of isk lost by players to this exploit to this day.
Explanation As cyno goes up to a freeport (usualy that would be stationless systems) hunter alts apply it to a NON freeport and anything jumps in it has no tether. Then its tackled by 24/7 camper tengus/proteus or whatever eventually BO jumps in and starts bumping then capitals to kill.
I have counted 50 citadels in the regions of Metropolis, Heimatar, The forge in general hunter freeports has only 1 player in its corp. valasis1 in this case but there are tons of others.
The organiser : Sinshisko Van Raynar
PROOF (you can convo the victims in game and ask how it happened if its hard to believe)
https://zkillboard.com/related/30000199/201611041100/ https://zkillboard.com/related/30003446/201701262300/ https://zkillboard.com/kill/59517899/ https://zkillboard.com/kill/59923615/ https://zkillboard.com/kill/59894394/ https://zkillboard.com/kill/59298164/ https://zkillboard.com/kill/60022646/ https://zkillboard.com/kill/58262371/ https://zkillboard.com/kill/60017293/ https://zkillboard.com/kill/60016894/ https://zkillboard.com/kill/60010130/ https://zkillboard.com/kill/59895766/
And i could sit there and copy it all day long its tons and tons of this kind of kills.
Im not sure why victims arent complaining and asking for reimburst because as it looks from where i sit it is a clrear take an unfair advantage of fail game mechanics. And laundry billions of isk from players every day.
This could be sorted with 1 click by profile used by citadels application 1-24hrs delay nad thats all.
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Mortlake
Devils Rejects 666
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Posted - 2017.02.14 17:59:07 -
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It's pretty funny though, right?
I was told to remove my signature, so I have.
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Krin Dessat
Far Runner
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Posted - 2017.02.14 18:45:05 -
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You posted the exact same thing in GD
Here is a repeat of my response:
This is not an exploit - it is a feature
Tip of the day: Do not trust citadels to remain open to you unless you know and trust the owners/operators
EDIT: I`ll also add that there is no such thing as a Freeport when it comes to citadels
Just because someone gave it the name Freeport does not make it so. They own the structure, they can do whatever they want with it, including spontaneously blocking access to it
Also, posting this here will not bring you sympathy |
Mobadder Thworst
Legion of the Wicked Way Home Defense Union
1238
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Posted - 2017.02.14 18:53:39 -
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I would like it better if the citadel was actually killing the caps. Can you fit tackle on a citadel?
Honestly, this could be the new battle badger. I now need a citadel.
Best feature in ages! |
Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
3038
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Posted - 2017.02.14 18:57:38 -
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Mobadder Thworst wrote:I would like it better if the citadel was actually killing the caps. Can you fit tackle on a citadel?
Honestly, this could be the new battle badger. I now need a citadel.
Best feature in ages! Battlehaus!
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Noragen Neirfallas
Rabble Inc. Legio De Mortem
3790
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Posted - 2017.02.14 19:37:35 -
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Something something eve is not safe. Use other players structures at your own risk
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MadMuppet
A Better Corp Name
1180
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Posted - 2017.02.14 21:01:27 -
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Ok, I am trying to catch up on what has changed in the last few years, but let me piece this together and if I am wrong someone please correct me:
Freeport is a state of an Outpost when it is in contention. This is a fixed timer and an icon. Outposts do not have tethers. Outposts could only be put up in sov controlled null sec. Many (if not all) of these 'exploited' killmails are in low-sec space. At the time I am posting this there are a total of nine Freeports in EVE.
Could it be that the issue here is that some enterprising people are just changing the name of an Upwell structure (not an Outpost, different mechanic) to say 'Freeport' and people are not paying attention and falling for the gag? If so, that is in no way an exploit, it would just be people not understanding how the game works.
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Noragen Neirfallas
Rabble Inc. Legio De Mortem
3791
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Posted - 2017.02.14 21:19:03 -
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MadMuppet wrote:Ok, I am trying to catch up on what has changed in the last few years, but let me piece this together and if I am wrong someone please correct me: Freeport is a state of an Outpost when it is in contention. This is a fixed timer and an icon. Outposts do not have tethers. Outposts could only be put up in sov controlled null sec. Many (if not all) of these 'exploited' killmails are in low-sec space. At the time I am posting this there are a total of nine Freeports in EVE. Could it be that the issue here is that some enterprising people are just changing the name of an Upwell structure (not an Outpost, different mechanic) to say 'Freeport' and people are not paying attention and falling for the gag? If so, that is in no way an exploit, it would just be people not understanding how the game works. He is talking about citadels and they have an option to freeport you can freely toggle on and off. people light cyno and they toggle the freeport mode off so when the cap or whatever comes through to use the citadel it cant dock
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Noragens basically the Chribba of C&P - Zimmy Zeta
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MadMuppet
A Better Corp Name
1180
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Posted - 2017.02.14 21:30:56 -
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That is what I thought. Gate camp level 2 antics. Neat.
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Tig Shnifer
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2017.02.14 22:53:53 -
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It's a tactic that let's you be devious and crafty in order to get kills or some other gain.
Sounds like working as intended. Welcome to eve. |
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Neuntausend
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2017.02.15 03:15:05 -
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So, who are you trying to construct a case against? CCP for making this a possibility, the enities involved in the above noted killmails or the alleged organiser? |
Algathas
Wraithguard. The Wraithguard.
75
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Posted - 2017.04.25 20:45:42 -
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The lesson: Don't cyno on a structure if you aren't blue to the owners. Taking the lazy way out using a random citadel to save a few jumps is not the answer. |
Nalia White
Tencus
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Posted - 2017.04.26 14:53:57 -
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it's working as intended.
sure it is. the question is: should it work this way?
i mean we could get rid of many more timers! why not make war decs instant for example? probably balance reasons.
same thing can be asked here. personaly i think it should have at least a one hour timer. seems like a small oversight by ccp.
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Carnivorous Swarm
New Eden Department of Sanitation
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Posted - 2017.04.26 15:14:22 -
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Baited on a free port |
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
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Posted - 2017.04.26 16:50:21 -
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The structures are player owned, as such the owner can change the status of the structure at any time with regards to 3rd party docking.
Working as intended.
In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.
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Mike Adoulin
Adolescent Radioactive Pirate Hamsters
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Posted - 2017.04.26 21:35:27 -
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Remember when drones set to passive attacked anybody shooting at an owned MTU? Or mobile depot?
sigh
Everything in EVE is a trap.
And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:)
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Noragen Neirfallas
Rabble Inc. Legio De Mortem
4071
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Posted - 2017.04.26 21:50:44 -
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Mike Adoulin wrote:Remember when drones set to passive attacked anybody shooting at an owned MTU? Or mobile depot?
sigh
Good times. Remember when shooting mobile micro jump units generated killrights?
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Shallanna Yassavi
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2017.04.26 21:52:27 -
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Krin Dessat wrote:You posted the exact same thing in GD
Here is a repeat of my response:
This is not an exploit - it is a feature
Tip of the day: Do not trust citadels to remain open to you unless you know and trust the owners/operators
EDIT: I`ll also add that there is no such thing as a Freeport when it comes to citadels
Just because someone gave it the name Freeport does not make it so. They own the structure, they can do whatever they want with it, including spontaneously blocking access to it
Also, posting this here will not bring you sympathy It's not a feature if you're trying to use a legitimate public courier contract to get someone to move something to your own freeport. Then it's just another "scam" contract.
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Dom Arkaral
The Conference Elite CODE.
1219
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Posted - 2017.04.27 13:40:46 -
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Working as intended...
Next shitpost pls
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Saeger1737
Bite the pillow
1983
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Posted - 2017.04.27 15:21:25 -
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Dom Arkaral wrote:Working as intended...
Next shitpost pls I hope that future stations practice this, could you imagine the dock manager.
" Hey Randall, look at this cheeky bastard, look at him with fancy painted Charon, I don't like the color.... Dock denied"
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Krin Dessat
Far Runner
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Posted - 2017.04.27 16:32:25 -
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Shallanna Yassavi wrote:Krin Dessat wrote:You posted the exact same thing in GD
Here is a repeat of my response:
This is not an exploit - it is a feature
Tip of the day: Do not trust citadels to remain open to you unless you know and trust the owners/operators
EDIT: I`ll also add that there is no such thing as a Freeport when it comes to citadels
Just because someone gave it the name Freeport does not make it so. They own the structure, they can do whatever they want with it, including spontaneously blocking access to it
Also, posting this here will not bring you sympathy It's not a feature if you're trying to use a legitimate public courier contract to get someone to move something to your own freeport. Then it's just another "scam" contract.
Hence why, as a hauler, I dont take those courier contracts unless I know the person or corp issuing it and am reasonably assured I can deliver. This means I pass up on a lot of contracts, but since they are scams, I am not missing out on anything. |
Elenahina
agony unleashed Agony Empire
1691
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Posted - 2017.04.27 19:40:46 -
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Krin Dessat wrote:Shallanna Yassavi wrote:Krin Dessat wrote:You posted the exact same thing in GD
Here is a repeat of my response:
This is not an exploit - it is a feature
Tip of the day: Do not trust citadels to remain open to you unless you know and trust the owners/operators
EDIT: I`ll also add that there is no such thing as a Freeport when it comes to citadels
Just because someone gave it the name Freeport does not make it so. They own the structure, they can do whatever they want with it, including spontaneously blocking access to it
Also, posting this here will not bring you sympathy It's not a feature if you're trying to use a legitimate public courier contract to get someone to move something to your own freeport. Then it's just another "scam" contract. Hence why, as a hauler, I dont take those courier contracts unless I know the person or corp issuing it and am reasonably assured I can deliver. This means I pass up on a lot of contracts, but since they are scams, I am not missing out on anything.
This. There is no substitute for your own common sense. Don't just blindly take every contract you happen to come across. Do some research - if lots of freighters die in that system under mysterious circumstances, you might consider avoiding it.
It's not like the information is hard to come by.
Eve is like an addiction; you can't quit it until it quits you.
Also, iderno
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Shallanna Yassavi
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
509
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Posted - 2017.04.28 12:20:53 -
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I think I missed the part where I asked for advice on what contracts to take. Could you find it and bold it?
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Danks
Fat Angry Toe Tappin Inbreds
152
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Posted - 2017.04.28 17:21:31 -
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Neat feature. |
Krin Dessat
Far Runner
83
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Posted - 2017.04.28 21:02:56 -
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Shallanna Yassavi wrote:I think I missed the part where I asked for advice on what contracts to take. Could you find it and bold it?
You didnt. Feel free to take all the scam contracts you like. |
Shallanna Yassavi
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
509
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Posted - 2017.04.29 04:50:43 -
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Krin Dessat wrote:Shallanna Yassavi wrote:I think I missed the part where I asked for advice on what contracts to take. Could you find it and bold it? You didnt. Feel free to take all the scam contracts you like. You are equally welcome to hang around hostile staging systems in a freighter.
A signature :o
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Deadmeat Zukalick
Republic University Minmatar Republic
2
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Posted - 2017.05.07 18:06:04 -
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Mobadder Thworst wrote:I would like it better if the citadel was actually killing the caps. Can you fit tackle on a citadel?
Honestly, this could be the new battle badger. I now need a citadel.
Best feature in ages!
You can indeed put a web and scram on a citadel.
Behold the horror that is my sense of humour
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Kalihira
Ultramar Independent Contracting
47
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Posted - 2017.05.09 11:43:28 -
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I approve this feature |
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