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Nevase Prometeus
Every Man for Himself Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2017.03.13 20:22:24 -
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Don't fix thing what ain't broken.
Now I know why a lot of dictator hate ....... who diligent . because soon they had to fix thing that gonna broken . |
C0ATL
Renegade Stars The Eclipse.
26
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Posted - 2017.03.13 20:41:57 -
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Love it... just love it how CCP will shaft a good portion of their player base without having played the game... without people having complained about a problem... without asking us what we think about it beforehand.
I think I posted the forums 3-4 times in my several years of playing this game, cause that is how many times CCP has ****** my playstyle over completely. Maybe I am one of the lucky ones cause I mostly agree with their changes... but just when I start believing in their logic again and think that they have a head on their shoulders, they smack those beliefs right out of me with another move like this.
CCP... perhaps the overwhelming amount of negative feedback that you received when posting these changes should raise a small alarm in your plans of deploying this patch.
I am not speaking just for the carriers which are getting nerfed to uselessness despite them being the weakest balanced caps by comparison to their peers (dreads/supercarrier/titans - all of these performing either brilliantly in their role or at the very least, still 'good').
I am also referring to other chances in the patch such as the chimera re-design. Do not get me wrong on this... when I first looked at the concept art for how this beautiful ship will look in the future I was blown away. Let me remind you, CCP, of what you said you would change it to: [url]http://content.eveonline.com/www/newssystem/media/67023/1/Chimera_redesign.jpg[/url]. From all of those details that give it debth, scale, majesty and a true feeling that you are commanding a 3km long ship, what was delivered? NOTHING. Just a simple, static hull. No small heat vents when the ship is taking damage to shields/entering warp... no small maintenance drones buzzing around it to give it scale... no point defense weapons to bring it closer to a realistic design. Yes.. I am not talking out of my ass. All of these were in the concept and more and all we got was a damn 3km long shoe box. Shame on you CCP.
Perhaps you do intend to give it those details, later on, but until then it is **** and you should keep it shelved, just like with the changes for fighters, until they get major problems fixed, such as not stopping after they destroy something. |
noone kun
Hisp Eto Corporation
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Posted - 2017.03.13 21:19:51 -
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Cade Windstalker wrote:CCP may want to keep the stopping behavior to discourage AFK playstyles imo, no reason to discourage AFK playstyles if peolpe are payng for them.
Cade Windstalker wrote:and just make it easier to actively keep Fighters moving between targets, though this is also just speculation on my part.
naah, they just want our drones/fighters to get killed, so we must go and buy new ones.
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Primary This Rifter
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
1221
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Posted - 2017.03.14 01:49:31 -
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CCP: "We want your feedback on this." Literally everyone: "This sucks. Don't do it." CCP: "How bout I do anyway."
Nice to see this pattern hasn't changed in my extended absence. |
PkControl
Cuervos Imperiales Goonswarm Federation
0
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Posted - 2017.03.14 03:01:55 -
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CCP Larrikin wrote:Questions & Answers
Q:Regarding the increased fighter signature & bug fix, have you thought about the impact to PvE? A: Yes, and run many test :) We believe that carrier ratting will continue to be viable after this change. Balanced carrier ratting is part of the goal of this change, and we'll be watching the results of this change closely, ready to iterate as needed.
Q:Could the fighter UI show the HP of the damaged fighter? A: This won't be coming in March, but it is something we're looking into! :)
Q:Its annoying when fighters stop after killing a target! A: We recognise that fighter behavior isn't ideal. Its something we'd like to iterate on in the future.
You run many test? what? ACTUALLY, if your fighterts stop some moment, you lost it easy! in movement they receive damage! The fighters dont have any type of Defense in the shield or have defenses to another type of rats. and you put X3 the signature radius?
You dont make any test, you put numbers in the fighters whiout think and wait to see tomorrow what problems that changes cause... is very unfair to the people who cant pay the plexes in $$$, now you cant use heavy fighters whiout lost many of them each day. how i can get money if the rats quit me 30.000.000 each anomaly eh?!?!
Like another games since 2007, you only make changes if the problem affect your income, if that affect the users, you dont make any thing! like the Cloakies! since 2006 ALL EVE COMUNITY is pushing to solve the Cloakies, and you dont make nothing!
Thanks ccp, you like improve the game or get less clients?
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Trevize Demerzel
85
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Posted - 2017.03.14 03:23:04 -
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These latest Rorq and Carrier threads are teaching me something...
As a paying customer of this "game"
I give feedback... It's ignored.
So I'm encouraged to give up on giving feedback.
hence...
I'm encouraged to not pay for this entertainment.. And move on.
That's how I'm feeling at present. On the eve of these changes and the silence on the part of CCP..
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Xantia Naari
BRO GAMING Corporation FREE GATES COALITION
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Posted - 2017.03.14 03:25:17 -
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Q:Regarding the increased fighter signature & bug fix, have you thought about the impact to PvE? A: Yes, and run many test :) We believe that carrier ratting will continue to be viable after this change. Balanced carrier ratting is part of the goal of this change, and we'll be watching the results of this change closely, ready to iterate as needed.
Be prepared to unbreak this change.
There are two kinds of children that play in sandboxes. Those who build castles and those who kick them down. It's a symbiosis.
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Minion Lee Cognatio
Foxy Knights Legio De Mortem
0
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Posted - 2017.03.14 06:51:52 -
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But i wanna build a Snowman
Ceo And Founder of Foxy Knights.
Non exieris, Ne ipsi Deo (Never Surrender, Not eve to God himself)
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elitatwo
Dicker Quick and Hyde Defense Attorneys O.U.Z.O. Alliance
1633
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Posted - 2017.03.14 08:13:32 -
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PkControl wrote:...blah blah blahh goontears... blah goontear and more gonntears...
goon tears, best tears! yumm!!!!!1111eleven
Eve Minions is recruiting.
This is the law of ship progression!
Aura sound-clips: Aura forever
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Xantia Naari
BRO GAMING Corporation FREE GATES COALITION
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Posted - 2017.03.14 12:53:25 -
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For the majority among those who PLEX their account, the only thing less likely to happen, when the carpet is removed under their feet, than quitting eve, is subscribing.
There are two kinds of children that play in sandboxes. Those who build castles and those who kick them down. It's a symbiosis.
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Orca Platypus
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
131
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Posted - 2017.03.14 13:17:10 -
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Xantia Naari wrote:For the majority among those who PLEX their account, the only thing less likely to happen, when the carpet is removed under their feet, than quitting eve, is subscribing.
What should people using 6 month subscription plan do then? |
Soul Bulldozer
Fink Operations Goonswarm Federation
0
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Posted - 2017.03.14 13:47:02 -
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Ty CCP, "the best update ever". Now i can sell carrier, and forget skills. Fighter weakening is sh*t. GL. |
Frostys Virpio
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
3191
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Posted - 2017.03.14 14:19:18 -
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Primary This Rifter wrote:CCP: "We want your feedback on this." Literally everyone: "This sucks. Don't do it." CCP: "How bout I do anyway."
Nice to see this pattern hasn't changed in my extended absence.
What if the feedback people are giving is just confirming the result is what they actually intended with the change? Like if the change was targeted at making carrier ratter rethink what they do in game and making fighter easier to kill. Would they actually be listening to feedback and not have to change anything in their proposal?
I'm pretty sure they never ask for feedback in the form of we want/don't want this. It's more "CCP X will happen if you do Y" and right now, it seems X is what is intended. |
Cade Windstalker
1089
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Posted - 2017.03.14 14:20:43 -
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Xantia Naari wrote:Be prepared to unbreak this change.
Considering there's already video out of people running Havens without losing a single Fighter I'm betting not... |
Frostys Virpio
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
3191
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Posted - 2017.03.14 14:20:46 -
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Xantia Naari wrote:For the majority among those who PLEX their account, the only thing less likely to happen, when the carpet is removed under their feet, than quitting eve, is subscribing.
So according to you, the majority will turn to other income sources or continue carrier ratting since there is only 1 option less likely than quitting so all others must be more likely. |
triggerhappyman
Imperial Steel
0
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Posted - 2017.03.14 14:22:52 -
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These fighter signature / argo changes... CCP are you drunk? Me reading the changes: https://d1sui4xqepm0ps.cloudfront.net/categories/wtf-face?image=cdn
Not sure how you think they need more NPC agro. Mine get shot at 99.9% of the time. If you think making the old targeting "rate" was a bug...I might as well scrap my carriers. As the moment I launch them they will just get blapped. And they are not what I'd call cheap...
And they are already laughably easy to kill before this "balance". If not you can just lock down with ECM or webs. If anything they need a slight HP boost. Fighters now have a sig nearing the size of cruisers. Like what?
The rest of the patch was good all and all but the fighter changes... please return them. :/ Also THANK YOU for not releasing that God awful new Chimera hull. Not that it would have really mattered much as I have no real intent to use mine after this post.
And yes "Caldari caps are bad" or whatever everyone else wants to say..I like mine for looks alone, bonus's be damned.
But hey let's all be honest you won't fix anything from feedback you "wanted". It's ok though you ran "many tests". -.- |
Anigmayus
The Flying Dead. Goonswarm Federation
0
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Posted - 2017.03.14 14:58:39 -
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This is a bullshit.
CCP, are u out of your mind ?
If you are not playing your game just do not interfere and do not break the game for others.
Fighters have been significantly nerfed and once more. Thank's a lot.
I trained fighter to lvl V, light fighters and heavy fighters and many other skills for a normal carrier.
Now all these skills can be extracted.
Thank u so much, CCP |
MegaLuter
Horizon Eventus SOLAR FLEET
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Posted - 2017.03.14 15:15:41 -
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close the game. CCP
CCP did not think his head when nerf fighters. In pve they die like flies, but stand like elephants. Thank you -í-í-ù you know how to ****. |
Henry Plantgenet
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
186
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Posted - 2017.03.14 15:21:48 -
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Could someone show the difference in HP between fighters and heavy drones? Because just putting the signature in line might not be enough. If the HP is severely lacking compared to heavies then they need to be buffed. Especially considering fighters have only shields and no hull/armor and heavy drones have all 3. Take into account cost of making each and adjust things accordingly. |
PkControl
Cuervos Imperiales Goonswarm Federation
3
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Posted - 2017.03.14 16:40:56 -
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CCP Larrikin wrote:Questions & Answers
Q:Regarding the increased fighter signature & bug fix, have you thought about the impact to PvE? A: Yes, and run many test :) We believe that carrier ratting will continue to be viable after this change. Balanced carrier ratting is part of the goal of this change, and we'll be watching the results of this change closely, ready to iterate as needed.
Q:Could the fighter UI show the HP of the damaged fighter? A: This won't be coming in March, but it is something we're looking into! :)
Q:Its annoying when fighters stop after killing a target! A: We recognise that fighter behavior isn't ideal. Its something we'd like to iterate on in the future.
Crystal FightersCrystal FightersCrystal FightersCrystal Fighters Crystal FightersCrystal Fighters Crystal FightersCrystal Fighters
You dont Test any Sh##, Rly CCP BRAVO! you FU## the game to all SuperCarriers! EXELLENT! YOu can try make some money whiout recall the Fighters EVERY SINGLE MINUTE! And if you miss a second, YOU LOST 700.000.000 SHADOW! WOOOOW! EXELLENT MOVEMENT!
RLY CCP! you think or test this SH## in ANY MOMENT?!?!?!? You Take some moment to Test THIS CR##?!?!?!
I HAD ALL Fighters and Minmatar Carrier SKILLS AT 5! and i had FU#### Crystal Fighters! What happend in PVP EH?!?!? A t1 Frigate can kill any fighter now soo easy?!?!?! The Smartbombs FU## your Entire Fleet in 1 HIT??? WHAT THE HELL YOU THINK WHEN DOING THIS CR##?!?!?!
YOu not unbalance the game, you FU## the Game to all! |
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Dictateur Imperator
Ab origine fidelis Get Off My Lawn
37
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Posted - 2017.03.14 17:02:24 -
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Change of game accessibility. Time to attack CCP in justice. (i said game accessibility, now you must micro manage with youre 2 hand, to don't loose foghter, so people who can't are penalised... and it's was not the case whe i have register to the game).
Game accessibility change can not be cover per you're EULA, beacause law of a lot of country in the world manage this.
So plan to make CCP read feedback: - Support for each fighter lost due to "stop movement" beacasue they're own dev aprove it's not normal. - Attack in justice if you're law permit to attack for game accessibility change. -During fan fest all player must ask : Carrier Change ?Best Change?
If all player do this CCP will back to the old system in few hours.
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Orca Platypus
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
131
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Posted - 2017.03.14 17:19:18 -
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Henry Plantgenet wrote:Could someone show the difference in HP between fighters and heavy drones? Dragonfly II at max skill Thanatos with 4xFSU II sits around 4000 ehp, 6.74 ehp/s regen, 1600m/s speed without navcomputer, 13mil ISK. Wasp II on max skill Dominix sits around 4800 unmodded ehp, 10.8 ehp/s regen, 1690m/s unmodded speed, 1.75mil ISK. Dragonfly II at max skill Thanatos with 0xFSU sits around 3400 ehp, 4.85 ehp/s regen, 1362m/s speed without navcomputer, still 13mil ISK.
BALANCE, MATES. BAAAAAAALANCE. *sheep*.
P.S. Wasp II can receive reps. Dragonfy II can... nothing much, really. |
xOmGx
Order of Order SOLAR FLEET
4
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Posted - 2017.03.14 18:12:54 -
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CCP plz delete Carriers ans SuperCarriers fromt this failgame finally plz
FiX at least Titan making it worth its HUGE pricetag.....
Thank you CCP for destroying the game -Killing motivation to train for Capitals of any kind -Killing motivation to field Capitals of any kind in territorial warfire
PS. dafug happenn to render???
make it go away.. it iz baaaaaad - my eyes are bleeeding >.< |
MegaLuter
Horizon Eventus SOLAR FLEET
30
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Posted - 2017.03.14 19:27:06 -
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Sitting in offline on NYX .I'm upset because I paid a subscription for a year. This Change was to be the last in my subscription. ANY F***G NPC on farm can kill fighter top ship EVE. CCP YOU ARE IDIOTS!!! |
xOmGx
Order of Order SOLAR FLEET
6
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Posted - 2017.03.14 19:34:18 -
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worst part that we (capital users) have spend well over a year of focused training to be able to use / fly these ships and have invested some considerable amount of time and resources in ships
and now they all become trash
Worst of all are SuperCarriers they are now useless junk
Supers are bad in general - No more Immune to EWAR, easy can be pointed by small roam of small ships and cant defend themselves
CCP MUST to refurbish money that are spend on subscription and or return all SP that is now locked in useless skills + return all ISK that is locked in useless ships
They are responsible for faulty product what we have now on the server is NOT what people have trained for |
Will Swiftsure
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
6
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Posted - 2017.03.14 19:37:05 -
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From the bright side, this might be a good change for industry people who build and sell fighters? |
xOmGx
Order of Order SOLAR FLEET
6
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Posted - 2017.03.14 19:39:49 -
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Will Swiftsure wrote:From the bright side, this might be a good change for industry people who build and sell fighters?
you talk like there were no fighter loss at all.... |
Cade Windstalker
1092
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Posted - 2017.03.14 20:21:12 -
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Seems like a lot of people in this thread might be helped out by this video on how not to lose Fighters with the new changes. |
Cpt Kupo
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
28
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Posted - 2017.03.14 20:41:38 -
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CCP Why do fighters stop moving after killing a target? Are fighter pilots that dumb? |
Orca Platypus
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
136
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Posted - 2017.03.14 20:57:10 -
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Will Swiftsure wrote:From the bright side, this might be a good change for industry people who build and sell fighters?
Nobody would lose fighters because nobody would use carriers. I mean, you go to a haven, you lose 2, congrats, it's worth 26mil and you just lost 26 mil worth of fighters doing it. In ISK/hour terms you've been beaten by alpha clone ratting in a venture in 1.0 hisec anom.
Everyone sells their carriers and their fighters, including extra fighters they had to recover from losses. Industry people suffer because supply lifts demand and cracks it's spine. |
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