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Black Pedro
Yammerschooner
3188
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Posted - 2017.02.28 07:42:47 -
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Lucas Lucias wrote:I will bite, simply put I did not go to Jita or Amarr until the Goons had got bored and went back to Rorqual mining, and your slow and evident decline is pretty evident, it goes alongside the decline of hisec, which is really now just a couple of major market hubs and little else.
So the CODE won what exactly? Another couple months of activity, well done clap clap... Cheer up, don't sound so depressed.
First, while CODE. was a part of last weeks festivities Burn Jita is and always has been an Imperium event. They put on quite a show, racking up a record value of kills, providing content for nullseccers, anti-gankers and the blinkered, complacent freighter pilots who got to see what it is like to be on-grid with a large fleet, at least for short while. Such a reminder of how unpredictable and fun Eve can be is a great thing to bring to highsec residents every year or so who may be stuck in a rut and need some content served to them.
I don't know why you say there is a decline in highsec though. It's true, some of the worst behaviour is going away thanks to changes by CCP to structures and mining and the work of good people like the New Order of Highsec, but it is still packed wall-to-wall with complacent industrialists and solo players lulled comatose by all the free, but not quite perfect, safety CCP has ratcheted up over the last years. Did you see that 29B ISK Blockade Runner kill today? Wow, so many things to explode, and so little time.
Sounds like you need to fall in love with Eve again. I suggest everyone implement a 20% rule for themselves when it comes to playing Eve. Take 20% of the time you would spend doing soulless, purposeless ISK grinding that you think makes you happy and apply it to a project to create content in the sandbox. Perhaps a delicious scam? Or a big publicity stunt like CODE. just pulled off? Try to stoke some fires with misinformation to start a war? Or even just be a vanilla aggressor and attack someone. No, I don't mean fit a PvP ship and go on some meaningless roam and engage in boring consensual PvP. No, pick an enemy, engineer or straight-out fabricate a reason to fight them, and then go at it for a while and make some stories.
CCP gave us a sandbox but we have to make the content. Get out there people and be like CODE. and do so.
The 8 Golden Rules of Eve
Why Do They Gank?
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Tasspool Harp
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
48
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Posted - 2017.02.28 10:58:06 -
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Black Pedro wrote:
CCP gave us a sandbox but we have to make the content.
Indeed and sometimes that content just means idly mining in highsec and watching the rest of the universe go by. As uncomfortable as that may be to some. |
March rabbit
Mosquito Squadron The-Culture
2081
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Posted - 2017.02.28 12:04:01 -
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Black Pedro wrote: Sounds like you need to fall in love with Eve again. I suggest everyone implement a 20% rule for themselves when it comes to playing Eve. Take 20% of the time you would spend doing soulless, purposeless ISK grinding that you think makes you happy and apply it to a project to create content in the sandbox. Perhaps a delicious scam? Or a big publicity stunt like CODE. just pulled off? Try to stoke some fires with misinformation to start a war? Or even just be a vanilla aggressor and attack someone. No, I don't mean fit a PvP ship and go on some meaningless roam and engage in boring consensual PvP. No, pick an enemy, engineer or straight-out fabricate a reason to fight them, and then go at it for a while and make some stories.
CCP gave us a sandbox but we have to make the content. Get out there people and be like CODE. and do so.
The problem with your proposition is that your content is very limited. You are talking about sandbox here? Why all your actions always boil down to aggression of other players?
People are different. It might be funny but some came into the game to fly spaceships or stare at Universe around. Some of us even just talk in chats (even heard of: chat with nice background?)
The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
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Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
28400
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Posted - 2017.02.28 12:06:20 -
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Tasspool Harp wrote:Black Pedro wrote:
CCP gave us a sandbox but we have to make the content.
Indeed and sometimes that content just means idly mining in highsec and watching the rest of the universe go by. As uncomfortable as that may be to some.
We have to do the sand too?
Every part of a game helps to tell a story =ƒôò
Where is Angry CONCORD guy when you need him
Osprey =ƒÜÇ
GëíGïüGëí GÖÑ
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Hipqo
Tyde8
170
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Posted - 2017.02.28 12:12:13 -
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Code got robbed, goons got robbed, burn jita got delayed, james tried to sell the allaince, nobody wanted to buy his crap, so now he is forced to come up with this story that it was all a scam and we should all feel bad for falling for it.
lol......
At least thats how i see it.
A life is best lived, to not step into your grave in a well preserved body. Instead, to slide in side ways, all battered and bruised, screamming, "Holy SH**! What a ride!"
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Black Pedro
Yammerschooner
3189
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Posted - 2017.02.28 12:23:54 -
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Tasspool Harp wrote:Black Pedro wrote:
CCP gave us a sandbox but we have to make the content.
Indeed and sometimes that content just means idly mining in highsec and watching the rest of the universe go by. As uncomfortable as that may be to some.
I am afraid, that is not content. At that is not content in and of itself. The only reason that activity is at all interesting is that it takes place in a universe where the ore you are spawning into it has some utility and some value to that player and the other players in the shared universe. As uncomfortable as that fact may be to some, it is true. Anyone can log onto the test server and mine ore in 100% safety if they want to watch the pretty mining lasers and let time pass by, but no one does because mining without reward or risk isn't content or playing the game: it is pressing F1 and watching a pretty graphical effect CCP software engineers built.
So if you are going to interact with the shared universe, the shared universe has to be able to interact with you. That doesn't mean you have to always be balls-deep in heart-racing PvP fleet battles, but you have to be doing stuff for a reason. People who agitate for and have succeeded in getting most of the content-creation tools nerfed out of highsec have done a great disservice for the game. I am willing to be that an order of magnitude more players have been bored out of the sandbox by not finding, or not having player-driven content find them, than the number who quit because their mining wasn't "idle" enough for them.
Content, and player-created content at that, is the life-blood of the game. There is a place in New Eden for players who prefer to create, rather than destroy, or gather rather than fight. But there isn't a place for players who expect to interact with the other players only on their own terms, or to make an impact on New Eden while at no risk of losing anything. This is an MMO, and that means trouble and content might find you and disrupt your game play. That is what makes this game interesting: cooperating and competing with the other players. Sometimes that competition takes place using a mining ship in an an asteroid belt, but don't mistake the act of mining itself as content itself. The content is in getting that ore before and more efficiently than the other guy, while avoiding those other guys who want to explode you or sell you a permit, before selling it to yet another guy for some currency to trade with someone else for something you want.
March Rabbit wrote:The problem with your proposition is that your content is very limited. You are talking about sandbox here? Why all your actions always boil down to aggression of other players?
People are different. It might be funny but some came into the game to fly spaceships or stare at Universe around. Some of us even just talk in chats (even heard of: chat with nice background?) Lol The content is limitless - the sandbox is only bound by your imagination. I do agree the game could use some more conflict drivers and/or objectives, but you can attack or cooperate with the other players to do whatever you want.
You don't have to be an aggressor. You can be a builder. You can be like the Signal Cartel and be a bunch of pacifist explorers. Create some content anyway you'd like. Heck, this thread is about a giant head-fake about a theft that didn't occur - a player story that involved not a single round of antimatter being expended. Do whatever you like, even if that is just using Eve as a chat program.
That said, we all spend most of our time gathering, building and trading materials to make weapons of war. Therefore, some of that content has to be shooting and destroying each others' stuff and using those weapons of war. People need reasons to build stuff, and arming and re-arming sides of a fight is a great simulator of the economy and provider of purpose. Even if you prefer to be the arms maker or arms dealer, you need to have a demand for your product. I know that being the aggressor isn't everyone's cup of tea, but someone has to play that role and if you find yourself bored and bemoaning the game like our friend Dracvlad was back in this thread, give it a shot and pick a fight with someone. You'll be at least trying to make something happen in the sandbox which is better than everything just grinding to a halt and you stopping to log in.
The 8 Golden Rules of Eve
Why Do They Gank?
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NotTheSmartestCookie
New Order Logistics CODE.
208
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Posted - 2017.02.28 12:43:13 -
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Hipqo wrote:Code got robbed, goons got robbed, burn jita got delayed, james tried to sell the allaince, nobody wanted to buy his crap, so now he is forced to come up with this story that it was all a scam and we should all feel bad for falling for it.
lol......
At least thats how i see it.
Careful now. If you get any more delusional you will start claiming that AG didn't completely fail. Madness lies down that road.
Making New Eden a better place 8 rounds of Void at a time.
Funny, smartest, pretty and relevant. Pick 3.
Proud shareholder in Halaima MinerBumping
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Lucas Lucias
Taishi Combine Second-Dawn
57
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Posted - 2017.02.28 13:00:17 -
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Black Pedro wrote:Lucas Lucias wrote:I will bite, simply put I did not go to Jita or Amarr until the Goons had got bored and went back to Rorqual mining, and your slow and evident decline is pretty evident, it goes alongside the decline of hisec, which is really now just a couple of major market hubs and little else.
So the CODE won what exactly? Another couple months of activity, well done clap clap... Cheer up, don't sound so depressed. First, while CODE. was a part of last weeks festivities Burn Jita is and always has been an Imperium event. They put on quite a show, racking up a record value of kills, providing content for nullseccers, anti-gankers and the blinkered, complacent freighter pilots who got to see what it is like to be on-grid with a large fleet, at least for short while. Such a reminder of how unpredictable and fun Eve can be is a great thing to bring to highsec residents every year or so who may be stuck in a rut and need some content served to them. I don't know why you say there is a decline in highsec though. It's true, some of the worst behaviour is going away thanks to changes by CCP to structures and mining and the work of good people like the New Order of Highsec, but it is still packed wall-to-wall with complacent industrialists and solo players lulled comatose by all the free, but not quite perfect, safety CCP has ratcheted up over the last years. Did you see that 29B ISK Blockade Runner kill today? Wow, so many things to explode, and so little time. Sounds like you need to fall in love with Eve again. I suggest everyone implement a 20% rule for themselves when it comes to playing Eve. Take 20% of the time you would spend doing soulless, purposeless ISK grinding that you think makes you happy and apply it to a project to create content in the sandbox. Perhaps a delicious scam? Or a big publicity stunt like CODE. just pulled off? Try to stoke some fires with misinformation to start a war? Or even just be a vanilla aggressor and attack someone. No, I don't mean fit a PvP ship and go on some meaningless roam and engage in boring consensual PvP. No, pick an enemy, engineer or straight-out fabricate a reason to fight them, and then go at it for a while and make some stories. CCP gave us a sandbox but we have to make the content. Get out there people and be like CODE. and do so.
First of all I said Goons ran burn Jita, not CODE and to be blunt this type of event is fairly boring as a concept.
The decline in hisec is that there are no reasons to be there apart from the market, this toon is in lowsec and my main toons are all in 0.0. The content in hisec is vapid and stale and CODE is part of that and CODE's decline is also part of that. In reality all that gets blown up is the indy alts of 0.0 players and people coming to hisec to shop or sell. Great content.
Just before DT we set up a kitchen sink fleet and chased PL off getting a number of kills in the process, that was fun and a lot more challenging. |
Sonsalver Yarrell
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2017.02.28 13:01:34 -
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I've always assumed the whole Code shpeal was an elaborate troll. I've been hisec mining in all four empires for ten years now. Not only have I never paid for a license, I've never even seen a miner get banked, much less had someone try to hank me. I do occasionally see someone in local rambling on about their kills so everyone should pay. The funny part is I'll be mining in the belt they claimed to have made the kill in and we are all just gobbling up rocks, no one has been tanked.
I basically assumed Code is about ten people, all with dozens of alts, trying to scam noob miners into paying them. |
Salah ad-Din al-Jawahiri
New Order Logistics CODE.
713
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Posted - 2017.02.28 13:07:00 -
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Arthur Aihaken wrote:Yes CODE, well-played. Here's your cookie - now stop spamming us with these threads.
It is our foremost duty to deliver only the true facts to the public - always. As mentioned previously, this announcement had to be posted on the official forums because many players are still unable to escape the echo chamber that they have been unfortunate to find themselves in, falling victim to fake news:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/5uqjqk/ganking_superstar_jason_kusion_robs_code_for_500b/ - 669 points, 383 comments as of the present moment; https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/5vx8er/inn_article_the_death_of_burn_jita/ - 17 points, 19 comments.
This, gentlemen, is what embarrassed silence looks like. |
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Tisiphone Dira
New Order Logistics CODE.
1087
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Posted - 2017.02.28 13:19:42 -
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can I have your monocle?
There once was a ganker named tisi
A stunningly beautiful missy
To gank a gross miner
There is nothing finer, cept when they get all pissy
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Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
28403
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Posted - 2017.02.28 13:25:18 -
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People just like to see scammers and gankers feet burn. You entertained them I would say, either way, but now show is over and everyone leaves cinema, end credits roll. -»\_(pâä)_/-»
Every part of a game helps to tell a story =ƒôò
Where is Angry CONCORD guy when you need him
Osprey =ƒÜÇ
GëíGïüGëí GÖÑ
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Wolfgang Jannesen
The Evesploratory Society
80
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Posted - 2017.02.28 13:29:02 -
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Another CODE thread? You winners have sincerely overvalued how much we care |
Yebo Lakatosh
Sewing Lightning
88
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Posted - 2017.02.28 13:35:11 -
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Lucas Lucias wrote:The decline in hisec is that there are no reasons to be there apart from the market, this toon is in lowsec and my main toons are all in 0.0. Yet your post history barely shows entries not concerning CODE or wardecs. Feels something still draws you here bro..
They say Alpha clones are only for trying stuff. I say it's just the Hard Mode.
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Aves Asio
50
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Posted - 2017.02.28 14:17:57 -
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lol code still trying to be relevant |
Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
28457
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Posted - 2017.02.28 14:52:59 -
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High sec is always nice, we have party, lots of people, great content, very good content. Null, not so much, ratting, empty systems, blueballing. High sec first, Null sec second, low sec in the middle?
Every part of a game helps to tell a story =ƒôò
Where is Angry CONCORD guy when you need him
Osprey =ƒÜÇ
GëíGïüGëí GÖÑ
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Dom Arkaral
The Conference Elite CODE.
950
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Posted - 2017.02.28 15:27:31 -
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Arthur Aihaken wrote:All I want to know is... Did you guys really scam 80-billion ISK from that guy trying to buy CODE? Absolutely That was probably the best thing that happened
Tear Gatherer. Quebecker. Has no Honer. Salt Harvester.
Broadcast 4 Reps -- YOU ARE NOT ALONE, EVER
Instigator of the First ISD Thunderdome
CCL Loyalist
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Salah ad-Din al-Jawahiri
New Order Logistics CODE.
715
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Posted - 2017.02.28 15:38:53 -
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Tisiphone Dira wrote:can I have your monocle?
Find your own monocle, you plebian. |
Hir Miriel
Elves In Space
337
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Posted - 2017.02.28 15:46:50 -
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Carebears and trolls are still a thing?
Firstly, carebears have teeth, they rule every game. Even in EVE. After all, you don't really die in EVE. We are all kept safe from that.
Secondly trolling. Everyone trolls, mostly unintentionally, because we are all so het up about getting offended, that anything counts as trolling. We are all as thick as trolls when it comes to the misunderstandings possible between us, especially in the text rooms like this forum.
We are all carebears and trolls, which means none of us are.
We just lie to ourselves and think we are the courageous lone wolves who tell the absolute truth.
Which I guess means we are all...
Carebears, trolls and liars.
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Thinking inside Schrodinger's sandbox.
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Tanuki Kittybeta
Ripperoni in Pepperoni Trigger Warnings
120
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Posted - 2017.02.28 16:56:33 -
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Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Plagueis The Wise? |
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Lucas Lucias
Taishi Combine Second-Dawn
57
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Posted - 2017.02.28 17:08:52 -
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Yebo Lakatosh wrote:Lucas Lucias wrote:The decline in hisec is that there are no reasons to be there apart from the market, this toon is in lowsec and my main toons are all in 0.0. Yet your post history barely shows entries not concerning CODE or wardecs. Feels something still draws you here bro..
I have only just started posting with this character. |
Amojin
Entropic Synergies Research
25
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Posted - 2017.02.28 17:14:41 -
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Tanuki Kittybeta wrote:Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Plagueis The Wise?
Ah, good, some new lore. I was wondering if anyone would use a Star Wars reference, eventually. I have heard of it, and actually have read most of the Star Wars books, too. The Sith are, without a doubt, more honest and ethical than the stinking Jedi, when you get down to it.
The Jedi are the single greatest concentration of ill-will in the Star Wars Universe. They impose their will on others, in the name of 'the Force,' but the force is not like a deity, an independent, all-powerful agency with a particular set of morals. The force is just something you can tap, for power.
In that universe, the Sith are completely correct. Plagueis EXPECTED his apprentice to kill him, when it was possible to do so. Since the Sith only, ever, number two in that timeframe of Star Wars, they have to be the most powerful, best two. When a Master can be beaten by his apprentice, he has done his job, and done it well. It's time for the apprentice to become the master, and select his own apprentice.
And he knows the same thing is going to happen to him, too. The worse thing, is if you outlive your apprentice, of if he fails, and you kill him, because then you have to start it all over again... :P |
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
59638
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Posted - 2017.02.28 22:48:52 -
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Only comment I've got for this thread topic is that ISD should lock it asap..
Course some of the comments posted in this thread was liked for being entertaining, especially all of the 'Star Trek' links posted by Amojin.
DMC
'The Plan' | California Eve Players | Proposal - The Endless Battle
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Amojin
Entropic Synergies Research
44
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Posted - 2017.02.28 22:51:17 -
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DeMichael Crimson wrote:Only comment I've got for this thread topic is that ISD should lock it asap..
Course some of the comments posted in this thread was liked for being entertaining, especially all of the 'Star Trek' links posted by Amojin.
DMC
I do try. And isn't that what you all pay for? To be amused? If you're not getting it in the game... A lot get it, here... I'm basically a real life version of that DiNozzo character in NCIS. I do love that guy, but yeah, I watched all this.
Why not enjoy it? Odds are, if you name something, I can find a clip. :P |
Amojin
Entropic Synergies Research
44
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Posted - 2017.02.28 23:14:50 -
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While we're on the subject:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEWYOo5Ymu8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tntTmzfNlg for the whole package |
Hazel TuckerTS
University of Caille Gallente Federation
124
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Posted - 2017.03.01 00:00:08 -
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yawn
code is dead, move on
code can lick my kevin schwantz at high noon in jita.
code ALWAYS LOSES. Dead, gone and soon to be forgotten.
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Vortexo VonBrenner
Raumfahrer Spiff Rakett Piloot Anslutning
2688
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Posted - 2017.03.01 00:27:28 -
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Galaxy Pig wrote: a) The Code always wins. Always.
lol. Sorry, but everytime I see that I hear charlie sheen saying "WIN HERE WIN HERE WIN WIN EVERYWHERE"
Whatever one thinks of the codefolk, however, at least they are...catalyzing "movement" in EvE and that has to be good for the overall health of the game when players are causing things.
Bit of attention-seeking going on with the J315 game (shades of kardashians internet spaceships sometimes :D ), but you do you code.
EvE security zones in pictures
EvE quick reference pdf
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Galaxy Pig
New Order Logistics CODE.
1172
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Posted - 2017.03.01 05:28:33 -
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This thread is conspicuously devoid of a few forum regulars.
I wonder why that is...
Highsec is owned by players now. Systems 0.5-1.0 are New Order Territory. All miners and other residents of Highsec must obey The Code. Mining without a permit is dangerous and harmful to the EVE community. See www.MinerBumping.com
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March rabbit
Mosquito Squadron The-Culture
2084
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Posted - 2017.03.01 05:45:01 -
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Black Pedro wrote:March Rabbit wrote:The problem with your proposition is that your content is very limited. You are talking about sandbox here? Why all your actions always boil down to aggression of other players?
People are different. It might be funny but some came into the game to fly spaceships or stare at Universe around. Some of us even just talk in chats (even heard of: chat with nice background?) Lol The content is limitless - the sandbox is only bound by your imagination. I do agree the game could use some more conflict drivers and/or objectives, but you can attack or cooperate with the other players to do whatever you want. You don't have to be an aggressor. You can be a builder. You can be like the Signal Cartel and be a bunch of pacifist explorers. Create some content anyway you'd like. Heck, this thread is about a giant head-fake about a theft that didn't occur - a player story that involved not a single round of antimatter being expended. Do whatever you like, even if that is just using Eve as a chat program. That said, we all spend most of our time gathering, building and trading materials to make weapons of war. Therefore, some of that content has to be shooting and destroying each others' stuff and using those weapons of war. People need reasons to build stuff, and arming and re-arming sides of a fight is a great simulator of the economy and provider of purpose. Even if you prefer to be the arms maker or arms dealer, you need to have a demand for your product. I know that being the aggressor isn't everyone's cup of tea, but someone has to play that role and if you find yourself bored and bemoaning the game like our friend Dracvlad was back in this thread, give it a shot and pick a fight with someone. You'll be at least trying to make something happen in the sandbox which is better than everything just grinding to a halt and you stopping to log in. Well spoken
The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
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Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
4944
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Posted - 2017.03.01 06:19:03 -
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I don't get the joke. What is he going on about? |
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