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Ch00Ch00 Train
Ch00Ch00 Train Corporation
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Posted - 2017.03.15 18:50:53 -
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You guys understand that 0.1% tax doesn't end up getting paid by the traders, right? If all traders are paying 0.1% tax, then the value of the buy orders decrease and the value of the sell orders increase so that traders can continue to make their margin. Allsales Final, you get that right? |
Cor'El Dahken
Miasma Corporation
2
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Posted - 2017.03.15 19:15:22 -
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Allsales Final wrote:Toobo wrote:
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The cost can increase but if that helps to create bigger profit where the new profit minus increased broker fee is bigger then obviously that makes more ISK. :p
I have to admit, I find it very difficult to understand you. I get the impression that you use more and more words when you have less and less to say. I understand Love Turtle. He wants freedom of trade and lower fees. Boom. Done. What is it you want? Why are you posting so many words in this thread? As I said: very odd. Lower my fees or go away.
I'm not sure if this is what toobos is going on about but I'll have my own input as to why higher broker fees are better for me. All the plebs who can only trade with little to non existent broker fees are pushed out of the market. Less competition means higher margins. Higher margins more profit.
Hopefully that explains it a bit more for you. While it is nice to have low fees this has pushed alot of items to razor thin margins forcing volume to be king and .01 isking to be rampant. Buy orders and sell orders are not 'generally' filled by traders. So in theory with higher fees and higher margins with the volume staying around the same. Alot more profit to be had by the traders that stick around.
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Allsales Final
Stars in No Sky
4
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Posted - 2017.03.15 19:32:44 -
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I think there is some real confusion here.
Pandemic Horde is looking to create a trading environment where you pay 2% broker fees while they pay 0% broker fees.
How do you intend to make isk then?
They are not your friends. Well, unless you are one of them. Are you? Maybe we all should be.
Do you think this is somehow like CCP changing the rules across the board for everybody?
It is not.
It is market manipulation, pure and simple.
Planet V Trade is offering fair and transparent markets in the face of overwhelming hostility.
I must say, I am with Love Turtle on this.
Planet V Trade. Now and forever. |
Cor'El Dahken
Miasma Corporation
2
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Posted - 2017.03.15 22:22:43 -
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If you think even a corp the size of horde can monopolize all the items in a market the size of Jita I think you should run your numbers again.
And honestly if all of these traders are hating on horde so much why have they not paid someone to take out their structures and Pocos in highsec?? I dare say if all the upset traders put their funds together they could afford it. |
Allsales Final
Stars in No Sky
4
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Posted - 2017.03.15 22:58:34 -
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Cor'El Dahken wrote:If you think even a corp the size of horde can monopolize all the items in a market the size of Jita I think you should run your numbers again.
What? "...monopolize all the items..." lol
Do you really not understand this?
Wow
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Jarr Kaleb
8
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Posted - 2017.03.15 23:10:36 -
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Cor'El Dahken wrote:And honestly if all of these traders are hating on horde so much why have they not paid someone to take out their structures and Pocos in highsec?? I dare say if all the upset traders put their funds together they could afford it. I doubt 'these traders' hate PH that much... Besides why waste money to blap structures not many people use.
But, maybe if they can build a trade hub similar to what Karin had, it would be good idea to consider. |
Cor'El Dahken
Miasma Corporation
2
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Posted - 2017.03.15 23:33:40 -
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Allsales Final wrote:Cor'El Dahken wrote:If you think even a corp the size of horde can monopolize all the items in a market the size of Jita I think you should run your numbers again.
What? "...monopolize all the items..." lol Do you really not understand this? Wow
you seem to think that someone paying less fees than you will push you out of business?
I just stated that if your problem is Horde paying 0% and everyone else paying 2% I highly doubt it will affect your trading operations much. |
Toobo
Project Fruit House Solyaris Chtonium
430
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Posted - 2017.03.16 00:06:43 -
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I've said enough to make my point. I hope some people have gotten something out of it. If some didn't, well I tried.
What Cor'El Dahken said is part of it - too many throw away orders, a shot in the dark, with inconsequential broker fees, the cost of setting up an order is next to nothing, which means it a stupid game of just setting up orders for whatever in case you catch odd sale/purchase here and there.
There's also something else. I'll use RL example for easier understanding. A lot of people drive cars, and yes a lot of people would love cheaper petrol price. But OBVIOUSLY increase in the oil price will make more money for some people in the world. I don't understand how anyone cannot see that or deny that fact.
Good luck with your Planet V projects & free trade movement or whatever. TBH I think it's cool as a player driven content/incentive/project. I always like these things and respect people who put in effort to initiate and push such projects.
I just don't see any moral high ground in doing this though. And that's what I generally do not like. It's not much different from CODE. doing their RP thing as the 'saviour of high sec', just rephrased as saviour of the free trade.
Toobo out. Good luck o7
EDIT: like, I would be happy to pay for any of Planet V's services as part of business if it made sense, was appealing, etc, and 20m fee for 0.0% broker fee for life time is pretty damn good deal I have to say, so yeah, it's cool.
But I would not donate a single penny for the cause or support them out of principle, or to save the high sec trade or whatever. You see the difference there. If the OP was a straight up offer for deals & business I would've been giving thumps up all the way.
Cheers Love! The cavalry's here!
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Jarr Kaleb
8
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Posted - 2017.03.16 10:31:54 -
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Toobo wrote:I just don't see any moral high ground in doing this though. And that's what I generally do not like. It's not much different from CODE. doing their RP thing as the 'saviour of high sec', just rephrased as saviour of the free trade. What? Actually it's PH which is acting more like CODE extorting iskies from hub owners and traders while blabbling everywhere "no trade is the free trade". Don't you know that CODE is the biggest high-sec extortion and griefing project in New Eden?
As far as I know, no one who supports Planet V (including its owner) is forcing his\her views onto others or is flying around selling trading permits. And you don't need to follow "The Perimeter Code of Conduct" to use Planet V trade hub or any other trade hub you like...
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William Ormono
Regional Rat Control Ltd.
3
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Posted - 2017.03.17 19:23:12 -
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Tipa Riot wrote:With ingame perspective, I believe we see the beginning of the sovereignty war about empire space which was forced on us by CCP introducing citadels. Difficult to stay neutral unless you strictly use NPC stations only. Hence pick your side in this war.
A HS sovereignty war would be pretty amazing IMO. Hopefully there is enough space for all levels of fighting to break out - with large alliances fighting for regional control of highly populated regions (The Forge, The Domain, etc.) and smaller corps/alliances battling for system control of quieter backwater type systems. Sounds like CONTENT to me! |
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Pindi buoy
Conoco. Caldari Armed Forces.
1
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Posted - 2017.03.17 20:49:27 -
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Love Turtle wrote:There are a lot of words being wasted on accusations and recriminations and obfuscation here.
This situation is really quite simple:
Planet V is offering and paying a large price to defend the freedom of trade, starting in Jita, but presumably throughout all of New Eden, in order to serve the interests of the entire Eve community, even in the face of seemingly overwhelming aggression.
Pandemic Horde has sworn to wardec all offshore market hubs, except for those who pay them enormous and ever increasing "protection" fees. They are attempting to monopolize trade in order to reap ill-gotten monopoly profits at the expense of the entire Eve community.
None of this is inferred. It is the avowed and evidenced intent of both sides. No discussion or study required.
This is pretty much as clear a war between good and evil as you can find. I know Eve is just a game, and everyone has the right to use it as an outlet for their repressed childhood fears and anxieties, but I choose to use it as a way to express the person I want to be.
With my dying breath, I will stand with Moac Tor and Planet V Offshore Trading to do what is right, against all odds, at least once in my life.
Moac, keep up the good work and fly with the sword of the righteous. Let us know what we can do to help
lolwut.
Anyway, it has to do with the fact that Karin and freinds were making 300b a month, they drove people out and monopolized, others want share of that 300b pie, it's simple as that and now they're being driven out, this is free market right here at play.
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Pindi buoy
Conoco. Caldari Armed Forces.
1
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Posted - 2017.03.17 21:07:59 -
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Cor'El Dahken wrote:Allsales Final wrote:Cor'El Dahken wrote:If you think even a corp the size of horde can monopolize all the items in a market the size of Jita I think you should run your numbers again.
What? "...monopolize all the items..." lol Do you really not understand this? Wow you seem to think that someone paying less fees than you will push you out of business? I just stated that if your problem is Horde paying 0% and everyone else paying 2% I highly doubt it will affect your trading operations much.
So, wait, are you saying I have to pay you guys fees to get 0%, but alternatively, I can place an alt in Horde for free and get 0% in addition to seeding their nullsec markets?
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Jarr Kaleb
8
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Posted - 2017.03.18 01:24:29 -
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Pindi buoy wrote:Our assets get stuck for days every now and then or we need to move them from one place to another and re-set all the orders and do all this over and over. It was fine the first time and the second time, but now it's what, 15th time? I lost track. Back then Karin was offering free hauling service with collateral to traders. It's not like traders were left alone with their assets.
I kind of understand that re-listing orders every two weeks may be somewhat annoying to some people but moving assets with no risk at all from tether to tether or using free courier service shouldn't sound like a bad option, right?
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Honestly, in comparison to horde, no matter how you feel about Karin and his plans, the latter at least knew what to do while PH seems to just fly around, pretending to have fun. Horde don't_ even_ trying_ to generate traffic to any of their hubs.
It's just business, you're right... but, I also don't need long talks about safety and reliability while sh_t still sells faster and better in Jita. I want to see that the owner is caring about his trade hub and traders... or at least trying.
ps. Will Pandemic Horde offer to traders free hauling service if something goes wrong? Doubt so... |
Moac Tor
Cyber Core Stain Confederation
792
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Posted - 2017.03.18 19:43:06 -
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Greetings all,
Thank you to the many of you who continue to support our efforts to maintain free trade across New Eden, and to fight the current extortion tactics employed by Pandemic Horde and others.
I have a couple of updates to the Planet V Trade operation. First of which you may have noticed already; our market hubs have changed their name slightly. All of our market hubs are now named 'Planet V Trade'. This is due to a new update released by CCP in which they no longer allow unicode symbols for newly anchored structures. And so going forward we will be using the name 'Planet V Trade'.
Additionally, we had been receiving requests for a Planet V Trade market hub in Ashab. The requests were from traders who were having high broker fees forced upon them by Mercenary Coalition who have been extorting market hub owners in the region surrounding Amarr. As a result we have now expanded our market operation to cover Amarr, and we currently have an online market hub located in Ashab.
Another piece of good news; we have discovered a method to easily anchor a market in any system with it being almost impossible for it to be wardeced within the first 15 minutes necessary to prevent it coming online. As a result we now have a Planet V Trade hub in Perimeter, and should be able to continue to keep a presence there going forward now.
Finally, for a limited period of time we will be offering 0% public broker fees in order to encourage traders to try our market hubs. There is still much work to do on increasing the volume of trade necessary to prevent Pandemic Horde backed markets maintaining a meaningful presence, and so we hope that by taking this step it will help with that. Anyone who has donated in order to receive the 0% broker fee will maintain that rate even when our public broker fee increases back to 0.1%. Although if you wish to have your donation returned please send me a mail and I will do so.
We hope you will continue to support us in the war to maintain free markets and prevent extortion by trading with Planet V Trade. |
Jarr Kaleb
9
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Posted - 2017.03.19 13:49:11 -
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Hello, if I'm not mistaken you're the owner of Adam4eve website.
Can you please explain what is going on with statistics of some of player owned trade hubs?
Please, see this screenshot, pay attention to buy orders\buy volume highlighted red. I checked statistics today with ~20min or so interval, why is there such a huge difference?
If it's a bug why all the player owned hubs weren't affected?
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And here are larger screenshots - http://i.imgur.com/7Py4GB3.jpg before http://i.imgur.com/tb17f2j.jpg after |
Ethan02
Succurit Research and Development
5
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Posted - 2017.03.20 05:12:26 -
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Responded in the Adam4EVE feedback thread since it would be off-topic for this one. |
Jarr Kaleb
11
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Posted - 2017.03.24 17:58:39 -
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Q. WHY FREE TRADE IS BAD? A. Free trading allows the ability for margin scamming to be free.
An article posted on imperium.news by Jeronica (PL\EVE-Mogul). Might be interesting to read. |
Moac Tor
Cyber Core Stain Confederation
799
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Posted - 2017.04.08 00:01:55 -
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Greetings all, I am here to bring you all another update from New Eden's biggest free trade market operation; Planet V Trade.
We have been busy keeping the extortionists at bay, and bringing free trade to Perimeter, Ashab, and now also Hek; with many more locations still to come.
As a result of all this activity, I have had little time to keep the thread updated, so my apologies for that. Going forward now that we have things stabilised, more focus will be put into keeping the thread and communication channels updated.
As traders at our hubs are aware now, we have managed to have an almost uninterrupted service at all of our locations, with market hubs being replaced within hours of the old hub deactivating. We have discovered methods which allow us to reliably place market hubs once every fortnight, which means less hassle for our traders having to move orders.
This is in contrast to some of the less reputable hubs which have been appearing which have been using a method which involves deanchoring an active market hub. For any trader unfortunate enough to inadvertently use one of these hubs, it means that all your assets and orders get instantly tied up in asset safety with no warning.
Planet V Trade aims to offer a reliable, secure, and convenient service to all traders of New Eden. To make things even more convenient I can now officially announce that we will be offering a free hauling service to Planet V market hubs in Perimeter and Ashab. Simply create a public courier contract with collateral up to 20 billion ISK, and a volume of no more than 500,000 m3, and one of our haulers will transport it for you within 24 hours. Just ensure that the destination is one of the official Planet V Trade market hubs listed in the 'Planet V Trade' channel, and that the pickup location is another Citadel or Engineering Complex in the same system.
The war against the extortionists is still far from over, and in addition to this they now have backers who are paying them to destroy all competitor market hubs in the false belief that the extortionists will allow them to charge the sky high broker fees which they desire unchallenged. We have been keeping a careful watch on those who are funding the extortionists, and we now have some powerful allies who have seen the value in our cause, and are willing to take appropriate action to prevent the destruction of any further trade hubs.
This war to protect free trade in high sec is a war which will become part of Eve history. If the average capsuleer stands idle as the extortionists take control, then it will become impossible to shake their grip. We are now in a moment in which the balance can swing either way. It is now more important than ever that anyone who has an interest in preventing the extortion of high sec takes action now and supports free trade. |
Jarr Kaleb
18
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Posted - 2017.04.08 14:11:47 -
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Moac Tor wrote:Planet V Trade aims to offer a reliable, secure, and convenient service to all traders of New Eden. To make things even more convenient I can now officially announce that we will be offering a free hauling service to Planet V market hubs in Perimeter and Ashab. Simply create a public courier contract with collateral up to 20 billion ISK, and a volume of no more than 500,000 m3, and one of our haulers will transport it for you within 24 hours. Just ensure that the destination is one of the official Planet V Trade market hubs listed in the 'Planet V Trade' channel, and that the pickup location is another Citadel or Engineering Complex in the same system.
But, if you haul your stuff yourself (especially between regions) this information may be useful. |
Karin Yang
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
59
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Posted - 2017.04.08 15:50:31 -
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Jarr Kaleb wrote:But, if you haul your stuff yourself (especially between regions) this information may be useful.
Moac Tor wrote:pickup location is another Citadel or Engineering Complex in the same system. |
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Jarr Kaleb
20
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Posted - 2017.04.08 17:48:33 -
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Karin Yang wrote:Jarr Kaleb wrote:But, if you haul your stuff yourself (especially between regions) this information may be useful. Moac Tor wrote:pickup location is another Citadel or Engineering Complex in the same system. This is exactly why I linked that. That information may help people who can't use PVT's free hauling service and\or need to move their stuff from other systems\NPC stations. |
Mision Realizado
PAX LAGEND
0
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Posted - 2017.04.09 22:21:53 -
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Exciting times for the Planet V / Offshore consortium, I look forward to rendering any assistance that I can. Any fellow capsuleers who have some stake in an expanding market governed by performance and not protectionism please consider docking a solid PvP ship or two in the next active market hub.
Further, Moac, do you know if the intra-system hauling service has the turnaround time to move assets in the hours leading up to citadel timers exiting reinforcement? I will lend a freighter or two if need. |
Moac Tor
Cyber Core Stain Confederation
802
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Posted - 2017.04.10 10:54:04 -
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Mision Realizado wrote:Exciting times for the Planet V / Offshore consortium, I look forward to rendering any assistance that I can. Any fellow capsuleers who have some stake in an expanding market governed by performance and not protectionism please consider docking a solid PvP ship or two in the next active market hub.
Further, Moac, do you know if the intra-system hauling service has the turnaround time to move assets in the hours leading up to citadel timers exiting reinforcement? I will lend a freighter or two if need. Hi Mision, thank you for your endorsement and support.
At the moment I am looking to aim for a 24 hour maximum turnaround time for the courier contracts. The period leading up to a new hub coming online is often time consuming, and as the courier contracts are public contracts, any help in accepting and hauling the contracts by freighter pilots willing to lend a hand will go a long way to help improve the level of service we can offer. You would just need to ensure that you have docking access to the pickup location and destination (which would be the case if transferring between Planet V Trade hubs), and ensure that the contract is between structures in the same system.
On a related subject, something which could be of interest to traders using our Planet V Trade hubs; I have been looking at setting up a low cost hauling service between all of our Planet V Trade hubs. The collateral would have to be much lower than the intra-system hauling, but it could be useful to anyone looking to move assets between our hub locations. Perhaps something for the future as we grow. |
Moac Tor
Cyber Core Stain Confederation
804
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Posted - 2017.04.29 02:10:06 -
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Hello to friends and enemies alike,
I bring you all another update from the finest free trade market operation in New Eden.
Every day we are rallying more supporters to our cause, and have reached a level where the momentum seems to have snowballed Planet V into something much more than originally envisioned.
We now have a permanent presence in the four major trading regions; The Forge, Domain, Sinq Laison, and Metropolis.
The Battle for Perimeter
After a long battle for Perimeter against ICY and Pandemic Horde, we have decided it is no longer worth the continued time and investment in keeping a hub active in this system. It has been a great opportunity to push the citadel mechanics to their limits, and we have tested them to the extreme against an opponent who has had the utmost dedication to destroying all the competition in the system for their backers. I do not think there will be many that will be able to go to the lengths that Pandemic Horde have gone to, and so this was the perfect testing ground to forge a solid foundation to our operation.
The fact is that a hub can be placed at any location in the region within one jump of the market system, and so we need not limit ourselves to only one system when we can dramatically increase the pressure on our opponents by anchoring hubs in a number of possible locations. Perimeter was a battle with many good fights that will be forever remembered, although in the end it is just a small part of this great war.
Developing Free Trade Markets
In order to sustain and develop the operation long term, we have refined our strategy and will be making a couple of changes this Sunday.
In Ashab the public broker rate will be returning to 0.1%. The temporary 0.0% has been effective in putting pressure on the backers who support the extortion of high sec, and it is a good time now to raise this back to the standard 0.1% rate.
In The Forge as part of a long term strategy we have decided to keep a permanent 0% public rate at all of our hubs in the region. It is necessary to apply the maximum pressure here to those who are backing the enemies of free trade, and so for this reason we have no plans to change the rate here for the foreseeable future.
In the still developing market operation around Hek and Dodixie we are still refining the strategy and so will continue to offer a permanent 0% public broker rate.
We will also be increasing the amount required to obtain the permanent 0.0% rate to 100m ISK as opposed to the current 20m ISK. The 20m ISK rate was initially set very low in order to increase trade volume in our hubs and reward early supporters, and at 100m this will still offer great value whilst helping to support the investment needed to develop the service and provide free trade markets in the long term.
I'd like to thank everyone who has donated in support of the cause so far, and many who have donated well in excess of the 20m ISK required for the 0.0% rate. The donations and messages of support really help us motivated to keep this going.
This war we are fighting; the war for the right to trade freely without excessive barriers and extortion, has been a war of which many great battles have gone relatively unreported in the Eve media. I believe though that his is one of the great wars of our time. Together we can make sure history will remember this as the point at which the average capsuleer took a stand against the might of the null empires, and won. |
Sophie Fumimasa
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2017.04.29 23:38:24 -
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Hey Moac, thanks for the update. I have been lurking around, keeping an eye on the situation and was a big fan of what you were doing. But your latest updates prompts me to question your motives to be honest. You state free trade and then you put the public broker fee up? Well my trade isn't free anymore then is it? and whilst I get that you have costs to cover duping me into moving my trading into your citadel and then upping the broker fee, that seems like something you say the enemy of free trade would do and that annoys me greatly. Are you here to help traders have somewhere to trade or are you here to line your own pocket? You state that the war is for the right to trade freely without excessive barriers or extortion and yet you put the fee up to access your 0.0% rate from 20m to 100m, a quintuple increase. I'm questioning if I am supporting the right side in this as so far you have done exactly what you say the other side will do. |
CoachFeratu
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2017.04.30 00:14:08 -
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Sophie Fumimasa wrote:Hey Moac, thanks for the update. I have been lurking around, keeping an eye on the situation and was a big fan of what you were doing. But your latest updates prompts me to question your motives to be honest. You state free trade and then you put the public broker fee up? Well my trade isn't free anymore then is it? and whilst I get that you have costs to cover duping me into moving my trading into your citadel and then upping the broker fee, that seems like something you say the enemy of free trade would do and that annoys me greatly. Are you here to help traders have somewhere to trade or are you here to line your own pocket? You state that the war is for the right to trade freely without excessive barriers or extortion and yet you put the fee up to access your 0.0% rate from 20m to 100m, a quintuple increase. I'm questioning if I am supporting the right side in this as so far you have done exactly what you say the other side will do.
They increased the broker fee? are you sure, is this for everybody? maybe it's just your corp I doubt they'd increase it across the board, they might be putting a tax on people helping phorde? |
Tim Gemulus
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2017.04.30 01:16:02 -
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People that support Planet V. You are being lied to!
I went into the Planet V chat channel today to ask some questions in regards to the latest update, voice some concerns etc. Rather than provide any sort of official response at all I was instead quietly banned from the channel without any answers or explanation. Why is Moac Tor hiding all of a sudden? He has provided an update which has increased broker fees everywhere except The Forge. He has increased the fee to get the 0.0% rate from 20m to 100m in a single stroke. Is this not the same sort of thing that he stated Pandemic Horde would do?
It appears that Moac Tor is not in it to provide a free trade structure for the benefit of all traders but instead to line his own pockets with the tax and fee ISK.
I ask you, to all those that supported Moac and Planet V Trade, is this the sort of person you want running your structures? Overnight he has increased the barrier to getting 0.0% rates by increasing the "donation" required from 20m to 100m. I post here stating that it is an extortion fee. He encourages you to pay this fee to access a 0.0% rate but if it was truly a donation, then why not have a public 0.0% rate and ask for donations? Why basically force larger traders to pay him to access this rate? (Otherwise what is stopping them using other structures?)
I asked some of these questions in his channel and was met with silence from Moac and then booted from the channel. So I ask them here, along with this. Moac Tor, do you have some other motive to hide? Are you unwilling to answer these questions because you cannot justify them under your previous arguments for a free trade structure?
Oh and one final question. How can you state that you have won against null sec when you have pulled out of Perimeter and admitted that you cannot keep a structure alive in that system? |
Moac Tor
Cyber Core Stain Confederation
807
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Posted - 2017.04.30 01:33:22 -
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CoachFeratu wrote:Edit, nvm just checked and I'm seeing it too, and I checked on alts, this is crap, these guys are just are doing exactly what they claim to be trying to stop We have been experiencing a number of pandemic horde alts spamming our channels, although if you are genuine would you be able to post screenshots of the increased broker fee? We have not actually put it back to 0.1% in Ashab yet, and also it is still only 20 million ISK to receive the 0% broker fee for life.
As much as I would like to, I unfortunately cannot run the operation at 0% permanently as it does cost a lot to maintain it with having to replace the lost hubs.
Also bear in mind, our enemies have stated that they plan on charging 0.5% and above, and it is only because of our dedicated team investing a lot of their personal ISK and time into the Planet V Trade operation that we have managed to stop them. It still never ceases to amaze be the benevolence of the people I have met during this journey.
Also it is worth mentioning, in the opening post it is stated that we will never increase the public broker fee above 0.1%, and the 0.0% supporters rate will always remain at 0.0% for life.
Our core principles have and never will change. The 0.0% public rate has always been clearly advertised as a temporary rate in both the MOTD and in this thread, although I fully expect that the enemies of Free Trade will trying to spin this. |
Jarr Kaleb
21
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Posted - 2017.04.30 02:24:12 -
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Tim Gemulus wrote:People that support Planet V. You are being lied to! Gobbins, please re-login. https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/5o7lhl/people_of_perimeter_your_traders_have_lied_to_you/
Tim Gemulus wrote:I went into the Planet V chat channel today to ask some questions in regards to the latest update, voice some concerns etc. Rather than provide any sort of official response at all I was instead quietly banned from the channel without any answers or explanation. If I had rights I'd also ban you. It's not the first time you're spamming the channel. You talked to Moac twice or thrise during previous months and got all your questions answered.
I'm amazed that Moac still wastes his time replying to yet another spam from butthurt Pandemic Horde alt. |
Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
3660
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Posted - 2017.04.30 06:29:05 -
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Tim Gemulus wrote: I ask you, to all those that supported Moac and Planet V Trade, is this the sort of person you want running your structures?
Yes.
I'm my own NPC alt.
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