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Petrothian Tong
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.04.29 20:47:00 -
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errrm, Rohk with 425 mm rails and antimatter charge butchers everything man...
-Siggi- ""PvP" isn't only direct person to person combat, it can be very indirect. Selling an item on the market which somebody buys from you is resulting in another guy not getting a sale." Oveur |
Kramer Verone
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.04.29 21:23:00 -
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PVP does not stand for solo combat, and that's the only caldari weakness.
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Siege
Minmatar Siegecraft Bounty Hunting
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Posted - 2007.04.29 22:34:00 -
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Originally by: Amantus Try telling Fleshdiver that Caldari are rubbish at solo pvp. That guy solos everything in his Ravens
I know a few folks that have fought his Ravens. Very tough ship, nice tank and great damage output.
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Psorion
Absolute Wrath Inc.
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Posted - 2007.04.29 22:41:00 -
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I love Caldari. I must admit around 3mil skillpoints I was like 'WTF.. cant do anything', then I got Frigates V, and then I got Rigging trained up and learned the value of skills. Now after another few mil skillpoints, its turning the corner. Caldari , easy to learn, very difficult to master. You may be 'sucking at PVP' because like the previous posters said, 'More success in numbers', 'Careful fitting for the strength of the ship', and 'Know when to run, when to fight'.
BTW you will find alot of 'shield tanking' ships can shine if you Armor tank them and take advantage of the mids.
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Joebarchuck
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.04.29 23:02:00 -
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For those of you that read my post earlier, it only mentionned full aggro on World Collide so show how well it tanks. Of course pvp is a different world but I needed a comparaison.
Anyway, the nighthawk main wikness is the low DPS but the tank is amazing with the right fitting. I have destroyed, Rohks, Ravens, and even EOS with my nighthawk with going below 70% shield. Heck, last time, I took two raven but could only web scramble one. Anyway, both stayed until the first one was dead and my tank never went below 70%, they were shooting EM.
I think it all comes to fitting and the way to solo play but caldari are just amazing when fitted correctly.
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Calarn
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.04.29 23:28:00 -
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Originally by: Kather i'm afraid caldari suck at pvp.
so do amarr.
mimitar are ok but don't do much damage and don't tank very well
gallente are the only race that can pvp.
i know all this not based on personal experience, but on what is said on the forums
now, from personal experience, caldari are fine. alot of my old corp used caldari just fine. sure, theres no omgpwn solo ships, so fight in a gang. things they can do better than other races, well, sniping maybe? train t2 guns and laugh at everyone else as you shoot them from outside of there range
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Rooker
Lysian Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.04.29 23:57:00 -
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Caldari assault cruisers are pretty damn mean. An Eagle appearing 200KM away is *very* bad news to any frigates with you.
We had an awesome brawl on a gate against Snigg/Sniggwaffe a few weeks ago. They were mostly in T2 frigs and recon cruisers. One our guys warped into it with a Cerberus and went through them like a chainsaw.
A Raven, up close and throwing T2 torps, will do very bad things to you. Just don't expect it to tackle unless you're armor tanking it.
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Soulight
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Posted - 2007.04.30 10:30:00 -
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Edited by: Soulight on 30/04/2007 10:27:57 Erm I love my Eagle and if you look at many an allience killboard Im sure you will see the Crow around the top of the heap.
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Vactet
Immortalis Silens
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Posted - 2007.04.30 18:43:00 -
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It seems like so (To me).
Missiles, easy to get into, hard to master. Guns..hard to get into, harder to master.
Caldari really emphasizes the getting what you put into it. You put the time and training and yeh..you dont suck. The ones that suck are the ones that put 1Mill SP into caldari stuff and go "WHY CANT I WTFPWNZORU!" Time and effort wins the race.
Originally by: CCP Sharkbait we are screwed.
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Janu Hull
Caldari Order of Z Industries
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Posted - 2007.04.30 19:12:00 -
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Originally by: Petrothian Tong errrm, Rohk with 425 mm rails and antimatter charge butchers everything man...
Yeah, from about 40km and out. Get within 30, and if its smaller than a cruiser or faster than a speeding bullet, the Rokh is hosed.
I've been tinkering with a Blasterokh, and I've stumbled into a few fun arrangements. I'm still only able to use Tech I Large blasters, but I'm seeing potential in a Tacklerokh.
Ok, stop laughing. Seriously.
Just one webber, that's it. Its not going to wtfpwn whole squads with a full midslot tackling set up, just hold that one pesky bastard still long enough to line'em up.
If you're going to properly lock a ship down, someone's got to get close enough to web/scram it. I have toyed with the idea of a MWD fitted Rokh, and its a fun cruiser, but speed just isn't its game. You can still run a sweet midslot tanking scheme, low slots for PDUs, Stabs (I prefer Tracking Enhancers for tracking speed).
I just don't have the skills yet to pull it off. I'm just over 4.3 million SP, and I'm WAY behind on training up the gunnery skills because I'm picking up drone abilities right now. But I see promise there, its just going to take time.
For a Tech I Blasterokh, I'd recommend Uranium rounds. AM damage is nice, but lacking speed, you'll need a little more reach to do the job.
This is my sig, there are many others just like it. With me, my sig is worthless. Without (or with even) my sig, I am worthless... |
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Icarus Starkiller
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.04.30 20:04:00 -
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Caldari what at PvP??? *LOL* I've seen solo ravens drop in on a gatecamp, pop a ship or three, warp out, come back & do it again. One of our pilots is notorious for it.
During a 0.0 raiding op 5 T2 frigs and a single interdict were running around blowing up all sorts of stuff from frigs & haulers to BS. We even shredded a couple of drakes. Then we encounter one particular drake and 4 of us go pop before we do so much as dent the drake's shields. It was that fast... a volley per T2 frig, 2 volleys for the dictor, and the one pilot to warp in slower than the rest turned around and got out whole.
It's not the ship, it's not the race, it's the experiance of the pilot first and the skill of the character second. I've seen relatively new characters with moderate or even low skillpoints rip apart far older 'higher skill' characters while flying little more than T1 gear... and I've seen it done with all races. -
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Dark Fetish
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Posted - 2007.04.30 20:12:00 -
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Originally by: Slightly Annoyed PVE is no compensation for having a race lousy at pvp.
Oh really? Tell that to an Amarr pilot. The majority of our ships suck at both PvP and PvE... unless you have 20mil skill points or more.
At least you can farm iskies to replace your loses a gazillion times faster than me.
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VanNostrum
Cataphract Securities
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Posted - 2007.04.30 20:20:00 -
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omg that's such a retarded setup! what a noob! should be like this
highs
whatever
lows
win YAAARRRR I havent lost a single ship with this setup for the last 16 months check killboards
and imagine a semi naked chick in my sig
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Slayton Ford
Kudzu Collective Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2007.04.30 21:05:00 -
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Before you say that caldari ships suck at PvP, I suggest you look up the BE fitting on a raven.
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Jackal79
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Posted - 2007.04.30 22:45:00 -
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BE fitting... can you be more specific so I can actually find it?
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R0ot
InNova Tech Inc Xelas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.30 22:50:00 -
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I like be support in a fight tbh, altough i do have a gallente inty alt which is hella'fun ------------------------------------------------------------------
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Erim Solfara
Amarr Tarlos INC
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Posted - 2007.04.30 22:58:00 -
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Originally by: Slightly Annoyed PVE is no compensation for having a race lousy at pvp.
At this point I stopped reading.
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William Alex
Caldari Viscosity Dark Synergy
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Posted - 2007.05.01 13:01:00 -
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Originally by: Erim Solfara
Originally by: Slightly Annoyed PVE is no compensation for having a race lousy at pvp.
At this point I stopped reading.
Didn't stop you from posting i see...
Originally by: G.W. Part of the facts is understanding we have a problem, and part of the facts is what you're going to do about it.
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