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Gen FarSeer
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2017.03.08 16:46:44 -
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Do you have any plan on fix that unreal thing that happens specially when you undock from the station and jump to a star gate?
The thing is that if there is a planet or structure between your ship and the destination, your ship would not be able to jump untill you have a line of sight.
For me is the biggest fail in the game. |
Cade Windstalker
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Posted - 2017.03.08 17:08:29 -
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Nope, they don't, because that would make warping and traveling anywhere a massive PITA.
In the lore you actually can fly through planets and other objects in warp because of how Eve's warpdrives work. |
elitatwo
Dicker Quick and Hyde Defense Attorneys O.U.Z.O. Alliance
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Posted - 2017.03.08 17:20:23 -
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Gen FarSeer wrote: Do you have any plan on fix that unreal thing that happens specially when you undock from the station and jump to a star gate?
The thing is that if there is a planet or structure between your ship and the destination, your ship would not be able to jump untill you have a line of sight.
For me is the biggest fail in the game.
I see a big fail right here, in your limited education in hyperspace-physics. What we "see" is one possibility of how it could look if we had an FTL propulsion system.
And unless you pay me 5 billion for my time, I won't explain to you what spacetime is.
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Danika Princip
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2017.03.08 18:18:00 -
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When it's in warp, your ship is out of phase with the rest of the universe, isn't it?
How would you suggest this be changed, without making travel a massive pain in the arse? |
Gen FarSeer
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2017.03.08 19:26:34 -
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I am saying specially when one undock from a station lets say heading to east and the stargate is located at the west. Then you cross the station and sometimes a planet beside the station before reaching the warp speed.. |
Danika Princip
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2017.03.08 19:53:08 -
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...no, you don't. If you push warp and bounce off the station before you hit the 80% speed that puts you into warp, you bounce off.
You might pass through things during acceleration, but you spend most of your time in war accelerating/decelerating anyway.
But what would you propose to fix this issue without making travel really annoying? |
MasterofDisaster BI
Independence Laboratories Rate My Ticks
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Posted - 2017.03.09 01:35:25 -
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Danika Princip wrote:When it's in warp, your ship is out of phase with the rest of the universe, isn't it?
How would you suggest this be changed, without making travel a massive pain in the arse?
but if my ship is out of phase and can warp through a planet please explain warp bubbles... |
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
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Posted - 2017.03.09 01:40:27 -
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MasterofDisaster BI wrote:Danika Princip wrote:When it's in warp, your ship is out of phase with the rest of the universe, isn't it?
How would you suggest this be changed, without making travel a massive pain in the arse? but if my ship is out of phase and can warp through a planet please explain warp bubbles... Please explain warp. |
Ajem Hinken
Quaice Industries
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Posted - 2017.03.09 01:40:33 -
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MasterofDisaster BI wrote:Danika Princip wrote:When it's in warp, your ship is out of phase with the rest of the universe, isn't it?
How would you suggest this be changed, without making travel a massive pain in the arse? but if my ship is out of phase and can warp through a planet please explain warp bubbles... Not only that - but please explain how I afk mined, and wound up 500km away inside of Isanamo IV... Without ever warping. |
Ember Niagara
Interiority Scanning Services
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Posted - 2017.03.09 02:22:52 -
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It's worse than you all think: Not only can you fly right through a planet at warp, you can fly right through a planet at sublight and you won't explode. I discovered this while making safe undock bookmarks from Jita 4-4 -- I flew out a great distance on MicroWarpDrive, turned it off, then noticed my ship was INSIDE JIta IV.
I have been told you can even do this with a Star, if you have good timing dropping a bookmark while flying through it.
Disclaimer: I take no responsibility for any loss of ship incurred by trying to test this, though. Do it with a newbie corvette.
Essentially, planets, moons, and stars appear to be insubstantial decorum. |
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Tuttomenui II
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2017.03.09 02:29:19 -
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Ember Niagara wrote:It's worse than you all think: Not only can you fly right through a planet at warp, you can fly right through a planet at sublight and you won't explode. I discovered this while making safe undock bookmarks from Jita 4-4 -- I flew out a great distance on MicroWarpDrive, turned it off, then noticed my ship was INSIDE JIta IV.
I have been told you can even do this with a Star, if you have good timing dropping a bookmark while flying through it.
Disclaimer: I take no responsibility for any loss of ship incurred by trying to test this, though. Do it with a newbie corvette.
Essentially, planets, moons, and stars appear to be insubstantial decorum.
https://youtu.be/KWKiwFjjMg4
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Ember Niagara
Interiority Scanning Services
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Posted - 2017.03.09 02:35:41 -
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Tuttomenui II wrote:https://youtu.be/KWKiwFjjMg4
Trying to figure out what happened here ... did the pilot do something (hit an invisible barrier?) in particular to trigger the ejection, or do suns just automatically do that after a period of time of someone putting a ship inside?
I'm kind of glad warp drives still operate and we don't explode violently getting too close to celestials; both scenarios seem ... irritating. Then again, having literal black holes which spaghettify your ship to death and cause Time Dilation in proximity ... that would be rather funny, as would Command Destroyer Booshing a ship into the sun. |
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors Shadow Cartel
11591
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Posted - 2017.03.09 03:49:13 -
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Ember Niagara wrote:Tuttomenui II wrote:https://youtu.be/KWKiwFjjMg4 Trying to figure out what happened here ... did you do something (hit an invisible barrier?) in particular to trigger the ejection, or do suns just automatically do that after a period of time of someone putting a ship inside? Stars actually have "solid objects" in them (game mechanics-wise)
When you "hit it" it will bounce you off at superluminal speeds.
Bonus Points: How far and how fast you bounce is dependent on your ship's mass and agility. If you warp a capital into a star and activate Siege/Triage mode (increases mass to the ship by an order of magnitude) the ship will bounce off and "fly" at speeds greater than that of some ships while at warp.
How did you Veterans start?
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elitatwo
Dicker Quick and Hyde Defense Attorneys O.U.Z.O. Alliance
1621
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Posted - 2017.03.09 06:59:49 -
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Gen FarSeer wrote:I am saying specially when one undock from a station lets say heading to east and the stargate is located at the west. Then you cross the station and sometimes a planet beside the station before reaching the warp speed..
The universe has no "west" or "east".
Since humans are very primitive lifeforms we need a "baseline" of movement in a 3-dimensional plane for orientation. Stars, planets and galaxies do not.
It is just what our primitive minds conculde.
Imagine you "stand" upside down and look into a mirror. Your mind will struggle very hard to find a position.
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Wolfgang Jannesen
The Evesploratory Society
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Posted - 2017.03.09 15:12:13 -
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OP, I want you to picture how the game tries to automatically work its way out of an acceleration gate so they can warp when your ship gets stuck.
Now picture that same algorithm trying to navigate it's way over a minmatar station so that it can warp.
Yeah, I get that it's weird going straight through a planet but I don't see going around saving any time or heartbreak. Plus, freighter bumping right outside station were a big reason for a lot of the ways your ship collides with structures. |
Dimitrios Bekas
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
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Posted - 2017.03.09 18:40:12 -
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First World Highsec Carebear Problems :D
Really,...i mean, really ? If CCP really intends to fix this totally unimportant (realistic or not) Problem, then please...it will for sure land at the Bottom of the Bottom "Things to Fix in EVE" List...right below "new Icon for Exotic Dancers".
:D |
Icarus Narcissus
Pathway to the Next Last Calamity
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Posted - 2017.03.10 14:25:10 -
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Quoting an old-ish reddit post that sums it up nicely.....
Once you ship enters warp (aligned and >75% maximum subluminal velocity) your ship enters a depleted vaccum and accelerates without infulence from friction. At this point your ship exists more as very high-energy waves than as an actual physical object allowing you to pass through solid objects. Your camera drone input centers in your brain approximate the external visuals based on detected gravity distorting the space-time fabric you're traveling over. Once you enter the gravity well of the targeted destination or reach an approximate distance from a targeted coordinates, the depleted vacuum begins to collapse although your ship is still a non-solid until the warp bubble completely collapses and your ships shields take over collision-avoidance.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/1eg0lr/ouch_right_in_the_immersion/c9zwjdu/ |
Silas Grimm
Pathway to the Next Last Calamity
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Posted - 2017.03.10 14:31:25 -
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Icarus Narcissus wrote:Quoting an old-ish reddit post that sums it up nicely..... Once you ship enters warp (aligned and >75% maximum subluminal velocity) your ship enters a depleted vaccum and accelerates without infulence from friction. At this point your ship exists more as very high-energy waves than as an actual physical object allowing you to pass through solid objects. Your camera drone input centers in your brain approximate the external visuals based on detected gravity distorting the space-time fabric you're traveling over. Once you enter the gravity well of the targeted destination or reach an approximate distance from a targeted coordinates, the depleted vacuum begins to collapse although your ship is still a non-solid until the warp bubble completely collapses and your ships shields take over collision-avoidance. https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/1eg0lr/ouch_right_in_the_immersion/c9zwjdu/
Forget all that...'line of sight'? Expecting, line of site to an object the size of maybe a small town at distances of tens or scores of AU away is well.....pretty much why we have a corp member who updates our Slack channel 2x a week with the head line
"Worst of the Forums"
(TLDR - line of site to warp is stupid) |
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