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Vladimir Stolichnaya
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2017.05.06 18:29:14 -
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A quote from the recent Dev Patch notes for the 119.5 release coming on May 9th.
" PLEX can no longer be used for Character transfer fee payments "
Something that, mmm, oddly enough was NOT mentioned in either of the Dev blogs about the PLEX changes.
Way to go CCPVague
So are we no longer going to be able to use ISK for this ? Or is some new item going to be added in the store like Character transfer cost = 1000 PLEX ?
If Character transfers become a Real world money only type of transaction. You might as well just delete the Character Bazaar section, because you would be killing it anyways. |
Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
33200
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Posted - 2017.05.08 17:41:05 -
[542] - Quote
I remember the old icon for PLEX, that with visible photo and CONCORD on the gold backgroud. You should make it a legacy item and give everyone for christmas. Call it Pilot license and describe how every pilot in New Eden must have it at all times.
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oblivious Naskingar
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2017.05.09 16:04:24 -
[543] - Quote
So logged on today to find the Plex changes, let me give you some feedback
Changing my one big plex that I knew the value of both for services (game time etc.,) and on the market for a pile of chips that i need to stack into piles of 500 to do the things i want to do with them seems... oh what is the word i'm looking for... pointless? tedious? a huge drag, take your pick
Considering all the things CCP could have appied its effort to like, oh i don't know all the current game glitches we experience for our 500 individual little chits of plex, maybe putting some effort into making corp and alliance role management easier (silly me perhaps that will need a translation as CCP doesn't seem to be able to deliver any changes to the game that aren't mindbending complicated to achieve very simple activity or actions)
So go ahead mods delete my thread or tell my i'm flaming but i pay for my game time and i'm going to give you feedback like any customer and this is a thread about the things you've just changed to my game experience
My advice, remember that for the driving force of players who actually bring content to this game its about PvP and although a lot of other stuff needs to happen to enable that to happen if you take your eye of the reason the majority of actual content generators log is for PvP then you will succeed in turning internet space ship wars into a space mining simulator with tedious trading on the side |
Moridunum Kanjus
The Graduates The Initiative.
26
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Posted - 2017.05.09 19:00:11 -
[544] - Quote
So the changes to plex and removing aurum is generally a good move. But why would anyone want an advertisement for plex in their inventory? Please let us remove the plex vault from the inventory window. I pay a sub, I don't want to have plex pushed in my face whenever I play.
The plex icon is hideous as well, really naff and cheap, at least put some effort into the design so it actually looks eve like and not something ripped from a f2p mobile game.... |
Marcus Tedric
Zebra Corp Goonswarm Federation
122
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Posted - 2017.05.09 19:38:25 -
[545] - Quote
It may have been covered.....
You can no longer 'Deliver' PLEX to a Corp Member from the Corp Delivery Assets ( - don't see why not)....
It now gives you a single 'Move to PLEX Vault' option - which doesn't work.
Don't soil your panties, you guys made a good point, we'll look at the numbers again. - CCP Ytterbium
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Mokada Akiga
Bah Weep Grah Na Weep Mini Bahm
4
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Posted - 2017.05.09 20:00:32 -
[546] - Quote
CCP has screwed us on the pricing of plex.
1 plex = 500 with is 19.99 220 for 9.99 110 for 4.99
notice each is half the other but you do NOT get half the plex, pure scam from CCP. CCP are the SCAM Artists. They need to be banned from the game.
On the other hand
39.99 will net you 880 plex, double the cost, not the plex. 99.99 you get 2200 5x the cost of 1 and you dont get 5x the plex.
And before anyone says well you get bonus plex, how long do you think they will keep that in play? I give it 1 week at best like any other sale.
CCP if screwing us over without lube. ******* us up the ass on the cost of plex. I predicted this would happen and sure as **** it has. |
Alexis Red
Red Corporation
15
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Posted - 2017.05.10 14:42:56 -
[547] - Quote
First Step towards shorter game time subs, yet more costly overall to play as Omega.... still a good move to push the game forward, as old players need to support change to help profitability or leave the game. |
Cearain
Plus 10 NV It Burns When I'm PvPing
1515
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Posted - 2017.05.10 18:59:47 -
[548] - Quote
Marcus Tedric wrote:It may have been covered.....
You can no longer 'Deliver' PLEX to a Corp Member from the Corp Delivery Assets ( - don't see why not)....
It now gives you a single 'Move to PLEX Vault' option - which doesn't work.
Yeah at first it said it wasn't yours when it was in the corp assets. So I contracted them all to a character and now I right click and say transfer to vault and nothing happens.
Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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Captain Tardbar
Hentogaira Miners Alliance
1185
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Posted - 2017.05.10 19:27:27 -
[549] - Quote
Could you change the game time to something other than 30 days?
24 hours? 7 days? 10 days? I mean you have the ability to micro it?
I don't play all 30 days, so why grind or pay for it?
Looking to talk on VOIP with other EVE players? Are you new and need help with EVE (welfare) or looking for advice? Looking for adversarial debate with angry people?
Captain Tardbar's Voice Discord Server
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Sagara Mithril
Cro-Magnons Cavemen.
5
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Posted - 2017.05.11 15:43:17 -
[550] - Quote
Captain Tardbar wrote:Could you change the game time to something other than 30 days?
24 hours? 7 days? 10 days? I mean you have the ability to micro it?
I don't play all 30 days, so why grind or pay for it?
I thought the whole point of breaking the Plex into 500 parts was for people have easier access to activate hours of Omega State, which i was so freaking excited when they announced this new Plex method.... and... now i hear that you can't activate less than 30 days at a time? really? |
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Marcus Tedric
Zebra Corp Goonswarm Federation
123
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Posted - 2017.05.11 15:58:57 -
[551] - Quote
Sagara Mithril wrote:
I thought the whole point of breaking the Plex into 500 parts was for people have easier access to activate hours of Omega State, which i was so freaking excited when they announced this new Plex method.... and... now i hear that you can't activate less than 30 days at a time? really?
Yes - because that was never intended nor planned....
This is a subscription-based game and every account requires an actual, or the equivalent, expenditure of that 'sub'.
What we now have is no Aurum - and just a single currency - that can be much more easily transferred (well, when the bugs are ironed out!)
Don't soil your panties, you guys made a good point, we'll look at the numbers again. - CCP Ytterbium
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Ikit Thanquol
Aliastra Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2017.05.11 16:46:50 -
[552] - Quote
value reduced by 99.8% function completely changed yet the "Pilot license extension" name remains even tho this is clearly a new type of item they sell them in weird stack sizes cheaply without mention of the fact that you now need 500 where have i seen this before... oh that's right! the jita scam chat!
scamming in jita may be bad but nobody beats CCP at their own game |
Mokada Akiga
Bah Weep Grah Na Weep Mini Bahm
5
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Posted - 2017.05.11 22:18:56 -
[553] - Quote
Alexis Red wrote:First Step towards shorter game time subs, yet more costly overall to play as Omega.... still a good move to push the game forward, as old players need to support change to help profitability or leave the game.
How can screwing over those that pay to play or buy plex to help keep them going or get stuff faster be a good thing? |
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
3989
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Posted - 2017.05.11 22:29:16 -
[554] - Quote
Mokada Akiga wrote: How can screwing over those that pay to play or buy plex to help keep them going or get stuff faster be a good thing?
They haven't. Plex cost the same as before, and CCP ahve said they have no plans to allow shorter than 30 day Subs even with plex. (obviously atm so in a few years who knows but given how abusable it is likely no plans then either) People are just failing at literacy and numeracy. |
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
6705
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Posted - 2017.05.12 00:51:16 -
[555] - Quote
Sagara Mithril wrote:Captain Tardbar wrote:Could you change the game time to something other than 30 days?
24 hours? 7 days? 10 days? I mean you have the ability to micro it?
I don't play all 30 days, so why grind or pay for it? I thought the whole point of breaking the Plex into 500 parts was for people have easier access to activate hours of Omega State, which i was so freaking excited when they announced this new Plex method.... and... now i hear that you can't activate less than 30 days at a time? really?
There was a faq entry that explicitly stated they weren't going to.
It doesn't make economic sense for CCP to do this.
Woo! CSM XI!
Fuzzwork Enterprises
Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter
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Mokada Akiga
Bah Weep Grah Na Weep Mini Bahm
5
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Posted - 2017.05.12 02:52:33 -
[556] - Quote
Nevyn Auscent wrote:Mokada Akiga wrote: How can screwing over those that pay to play or buy plex to help keep them going or get stuff faster be a good thing?
They haven't. Plex cost the same as before, and CCP ahve said they have no plans to allow shorter than 30 day Subs even with plex. (obviously atm so in a few years who knows but given how abusable it is likely no plans then either) People are just failing at literacy and numeracy.
Say that when the "free" or "bonus" plex goes away fro the offers. Before 20=1 plex=500plex which is 440+"bonus/free"60 for 20. When it stops and it will, it will no longer be the same cost, you WILL have to spend more to get the same. |
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
6710
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Posted - 2017.05.12 12:08:36 -
[557] - Quote
Mokada Akiga wrote:Say that when the "free" or "bonus" plex goes away fro the offers. Before 20=1 plex=500plex which is 440+"bonus/free"60 for 20. When it stops and it will, it will no longer be the same cost, you WILL have to spend more to get the same.
If, rather than When.
The extra is compared to the base of 110 for $5.
Woo! CSM XI!
Fuzzwork Enterprises
Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter
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Sgt Ocker
What Corp is it
1361
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Posted - 2017.05.13 01:31:38 -
[558] - Quote
Steve Ronuken wrote:Sagara Mithril wrote:Captain Tardbar wrote:Could you change the game time to something other than 30 days?
24 hours? 7 days? 10 days? I mean you have the ability to micro it?
I don't play all 30 days, so why grind or pay for it? I thought the whole point of breaking the Plex into 500 parts was for people have easier access to activate hours of Omega State, which i was so freaking excited when they announced this new Plex method.... and... now i hear that you can't activate less than 30 days at a time? really? There was a faq entry that explicitly stated they weren't going to. It doesn't make economic sense for CCP to do this. It could actually benefit CCP to have less than 1 month subs using plex. Subbing an account with plex costs more than "add game time" but if you don't have a month to play, subbing for the time you can makes sense. If CCP were to add say 4 days game time for 110 plex - 10 days for 220 plex it could encourage casual players (weekend warriors) and those who can't commit to a month at a time due to RL or financial restrictions.
My opinions are mine.
If you don't like them or disagree with me that's OK.- - - - - -
Just don't bother Hating - I don't care
It really is getting harder and harder to justify $23 a month for each sub.
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Perry Platterpus
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2017.05.13 10:47:18 -
[559] - Quote
so I plexed last night (put 500 plex in my vault and bought 30 dayws game time)
I cant find anywhere on my character sheet that says when game time expires
on my login screen it still says 5 days game time remaining
/....
what am i doing wrong where am i supposed to see these things?
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Naye Nathaniel
Cobra INC Slightly Sexual
81
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Posted - 2017.05.13 20:21:00 -
[560] - Quote
Where can i ***** about "plex price game by ccp"? can;t find a good thread or all been closing all day long :( and i really want to write about my frustration with the "plex" price changes with the new update... as it sky rocket to 1.3b per 30d of gameplay time :)
THANK YOU CCP :) you know how to ruin my wallet! screws.. |
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Sgt Ocker
What Corp is it
1362
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Posted - 2017.05.13 23:56:47 -
[561] - Quote
Perry Platterpus wrote:so I plexed last night (put 500 plex in my vault and bought 30 days game time)
I cant find anywhere on my character sheet that says when game time expires
on my login screen it still says 5 days game time remaining
/....
what am i doing wrong where am i supposed to see these things? Log in to account management my friend, it is the ONLY way to see exactly when your current sub expires.
CCP in their wisdom have never deemed it necessary for a player to see or interact with this information ingame. Sadly the pilot license section of the character sheet remains all but useless having been duplicated by the all new (and intrusive) CCP advertising medium known as, PLEX vault.
My opinions are mine.
If you don't like them or disagree with me that's OK.- - - - - -
Just don't bother Hating - I don't care
It really is getting harder and harder to justify $23 a month for each sub.
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KanashiiKami
120
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Posted - 2017.05.14 08:06:38 -
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hello CCP(s)
i tried to understand the "add plex" panel but i think it is confusing ...
could you guys update the buttons to read "ADD plex to game time" ? instead of BUY PLEX? ... there are 3 things i could click ... and they dont make sense ... the description "ADD TIME TO GAME" is missing from 1 of them ...
the PURCHASE button, should read "BUY NEW PLEX" ...
it is like everything is missing half the proper description ...
WUT ???
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Naye Nathaniel
COBRA INC Slightly Sexual
81
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Posted - 2017.05.16 14:07:56 -
[563] - Quote
So the true reason of dividing "plex" into smaller parts where to bring noobish player to nullsec for easy prey?
https://gyazo.com/2cdc94ae5b54fc135aa748dd6217ae5c |
Steijn
Quay Industries
1104
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Posted - 2017.05.16 15:06:46 -
[564] - Quote
Naye Nathaniel wrote:Where can i ***** about "plex price game by ccp"? can;t find a good thread or all been closing all day long :( and i really want to write about my frustration with the "plex" price changes with the new update... as it sky rocket to 1.3b per 30d of gameplay time :)
THANK YOU CCP :) you know how to ruin my wallet! screws..
For me they didnt ruin my wallet, they just removed a player from their game. Plex above a certain level just isnt worth it personally so when my current time added via the Plex from Aurum expires, i'll be gone again.
I was a player that had something like 6 years continuos sub, but stupid mechanic/game changes over the past 2 years made me completely lose interest. So for all those that say vets never leave as they have you by the short and curlies once addicted, let me tell you that p**ss a player off enough with stupid changes and they will go for good. |
Timcanpy Yvormes
Omni Galactic Central Omni Galactic Group
2
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Posted - 2017.05.17 13:19:37 -
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If the plex it's in a citadel it's not possible to move the plex to the vault? |
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
3994
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Posted - 2017.05.17 20:23:59 -
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Steijn wrote:
For me they didnt ruin my wallet, they just removed a player from their game. Plex above a certain level just isnt worth it personally so when my current time added via the Plex from Aurum expires, i'll be gone again.
I was a player that had something like 6 years continuos sub, but stupid mechanic/game changes over the past 2 years made me completely lose interest. So for all those that say vets never leave as they have you by the short and curlies once addicted, let me tell you that p**ss a player off enough with stupid changes and they will go for good.
Except CCP don't & never have controlled the in game isk price for plex. That is player controlled, so you are putting blame on entirely the wrong people. |
Sgt Ocker
What Corp is it
1364
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Posted - 2017.05.18 03:19:07 -
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Nevyn Auscent wrote:Steijn wrote:
For me they didnt ruin my wallet, they just removed a player from their game. Plex above a certain level just isnt worth it personally so when my current time added via the Plex from Aurum expires, i'll be gone again.
I was a player that had something like 6 years continuos sub, but stupid mechanic/game changes over the past 2 years made me completely lose interest. So for all those that say vets never leave as they have you by the short and curlies once addicted, let me tell you that p**ss a player off enough with stupid changes and they will go for good.
Except CCP don't & never have controlled the in game isk price for plex. That is player controlled, so you are putting blame on entirely the wrong people. Nevyn; Are you REALLY that naive? What do you think "plex sale" is about? Or should I say "used to be" about. History shows, whenever plex prices reached a critical high CCP would have a plex sale.
With plex currently at 1.44 bil (1.41 buy order) for 30 days game time, CCP need to start looking at ways to fix it and fast. 200 mil isk increase over 3 days is not good for the Eve economy and its player base.
I'm pretty sure they will let this price hike run for a while to see if the market / player population can sustain it, problem is, many of those who let subs lapse due to the high price of plex combined with the many game play issues, just won't come back.
Injectors and extractors have been hit by this change too, a reasonable SP farming character produces 3 injectors per month. This used to be enough to plex the account and make a moderate profit. Now it just can't be done, extractors have gone up, as did injectors but not enough to cover the cost of a plex. 380 mil (profit per injector) X 3 leaves you around 300 mil shy of purchasing the 500 plex needed, forget any sort of profit.
My opinions are mine.
If you don't like them or disagree with me that's OK.- - - - - -
Just don't bother Hating - I don't care
It really is getting harder and harder to justify $23 a month for each sub.
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Jeremiah Saken
The Fall of Leviathan
795
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Posted - 2017.05.18 07:09:52 -
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Sgt Ocker wrote:Nevyn Auscent wrote:Steijn wrote:
For me they didnt ruin my wallet, they just removed a player from their game. Plex above a certain level just isnt worth it personally so when my current time added via the Plex from Aurum expires, i'll be gone again.
I was a player that had something like 6 years continuos sub, but stupid mechanic/game changes over the past 2 years made me completely lose interest. So for all those that say vets never leave as they have you by the short and curlies once addicted, let me tell you that p**ss a player off enough with stupid changes and they will go for good.
Except CCP don't & never have controlled the in game isk price for plex. That is player controlled, so you are putting blame on entirely the wrong people. Nevyn; Are you REALLY that naive? What do you think "plex sale" is about? Or should I say "used to be" about. History shows, whenever plex prices reached a critical high CCP would have a plex sale. With plex currently at 1.44 bil (1.41 buy order) for 30 days game time, CCP need to start looking at ways to fix it and fast. 200 mil isk increase over 3 days is not good for the Eve economy and its player base. I'm pretty sure they will let this price hike run for a while to see if the market / player population can sustain it, problem is, many of those who let subs lapse due to the high price of plex combined with the many game play issues, just won't come back. Injectors and extractors have been hit by this change too, a reasonable SP farming character produces 3 injectors per month. This used to be enough to plex the account and make a moderate profit. Now it just can't be done, extractors have gone up, as did injectors but not enough to cover the cost of a plex. 380 mil (profit per injector) X 3 leaves you around 300 mil shy of purchasing the 500 plex needed, forget any sort of profit. Why CCP need to start looking? It was expected that splitting PLEX into chunks will increase it's price. What CCP should do exactly? Educate ppl? "Minerals that I mine I free"? "Multiplication by 500 is hard?" In general I find most of homo sapiens sapiens stupid - 1 250 000 000 PLEX "that's too much CCP", 3 000 000 PLEX "well ok, and look how many new ships skins I can afford now...". PLEX will rise above 3 000 000 and will stay there. I don't think AURUM conversion hurt market as much as predicted.
"I am tormented with an everlasting itch for things remote. I love to sail forbidden seas..." - Herman Melville
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Sgt Ocker
What Corp is it
1364
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Posted - 2017.05.18 11:46:12 -
[569] - Quote
Jeremiah Saken wrote:Sgt Ocker wrote:Nevyn Auscent wrote:Steijn wrote:
For me they didnt ruin my wallet, they just removed a player from their game. Plex above a certain level just isnt worth it personally so when my current time added via the Plex from Aurum expires, i'll be gone again.
I was a player that had something like 6 years continuos sub, but stupid mechanic/game changes over the past 2 years made me completely lose interest. So for all those that say vets never leave as they have you by the short and curlies once addicted, let me tell you that p**ss a player off enough with stupid changes and they will go for good.
Except CCP don't & never have controlled the in game isk price for plex. That is player controlled, so you are putting blame on entirely the wrong people. Nevyn; Are you REALLY that naive? What do you think "plex sale" is about? Or should I say "used to be" about. History shows, whenever plex prices reached a critical high CCP would have a plex sale. With plex currently at 1.44 bil (1.41 buy order) for 30 days game time, CCP need to start looking at ways to fix it and fast. 200 mil isk increase over 3 days is not good for the Eve economy and its player base. I'm pretty sure they will let this price hike run for a while to see if the market / player population can sustain it, problem is, many of those who let subs lapse due to the high price of plex combined with the many game play issues, just won't come back. Injectors and extractors have been hit by this change too, a reasonable SP farming character produces 3 injectors per month. This used to be enough to plex the account and make a moderate profit. Now it just can't be done, extractors have gone up, as did injectors but not enough to cover the cost of a plex. 380 mil (profit per injector) X 3 leaves you around 300 mil shy of purchasing the 500 plex needed, forget any sort of profit. Why CCP need to start looking? It was expected that splitting PLEX into chunks will increase it's price. What CCP should do exactly? Educate ppl? "Minerals that I mine I free"? "Multiplication by 500 is hard?" In general I find most of homo sapiens sapiens stupid - 1 250 000 000 PLEX "that's too much CCP", 3 000 000 PLEX "well ok, and look how many new ships skins I can afford now...". PLEX will rise above 3 000 000 and will stay there. I don't think AURUM conversion hurt market as much as predicted. If that is how it goes, a single plex hits 3 mil isk - Expect to see online numbers plummet to all time lows.
I for one have 2 accounts expiring in less than a week - I can't/won't spend nearly 1.5 bil for a plex so will end up with another 2 Alpha clone state characters, making 7 out of 11 accounts - Unsubbed. I was talking to 2 of my alliance mates earlier - Between them 12 accounts went dead today, one has another 3 that expire in less than a week. This is just three players who all ran multiple accounts by farming SP - Which adds up to a small loss to CCP initially but grows to a larger loss as many other sp farmers realize it is now a lose lose situation and let those subs drop.
With "period average" as low as it is (which now includes alpha's), can CCP sustain the loss of paying customers by allowing plex prices to rise like they are?
Funny thing is, I think you have it a little backward - Plex prices go up - Less sales in the NES. High plex prices won't encourage players to spend it in the NES, it will do exactly the opposite.
CCp has worked hard over the last couple of years to keep plex prices fairly stable, I can't believe they are happy about the prospect of losing more players due to the price hike.. CCP needs to have a massive plex sale and soon before too much damage is done.
My opinions are mine.
If you don't like them or disagree with me that's OK.- - - - - -
Just don't bother Hating - I don't care
It really is getting harder and harder to justify $23 a month for each sub.
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Jeremiah Saken
The Fall of Leviathan
795
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Posted - 2017.05.18 12:44:26 -
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Sgt Ocker wrote:If that is how it goes, a single plex hits 3 mil isk - Expect to see online numbers plummet to all time lows.
I for one have 2 accounts expiring in less than a week - I can't/won't spend nearly 1.5 bil for a plex so will end up with another 2 Alpha clone state characters, making 7 out of 11 accounts - Unsubbed. I was talking to 2 of my alliance mates earlier - Between them 12 accounts went dead today, one has another 3 that expire in less than a week. This is just three players who all ran multiple accounts by farming SP - Which adds up to a small loss to CCP initially but grows to a larger loss as many other sp farmers realize it is now a lose lose situation and let those subs drop.
With "period average" as low as it is (which now includes alpha's), can CCP sustain the loss of paying customers by allowing plex prices to rise like they are?
Funny thing is, I think you have it a little backward - Plex prices go up - Less sales in the NES. High plex prices won't encourage players to spend it in the NES, it will do exactly the opposite.
CCp has worked hard over the last couple of years to keep plex prices fairly stable, I can't believe they are happy about the prospect of losing more players due to the price hike.. CCP needs to have a massive plex sale and soon before too much damage is done. Good times for ppl selling PLEX - income for CCP. PLEX is still underpriced. I can easily PLEX my account by casually playing. PLEX chunks is more attractive in NES than AURUM - psychology. Ppl more willingly spend 3mil than 1,5bil. I don't care for alts accounts, multiboxers, SP farms. CCP only let SP farms because they are earning money on extractors.
"I am tormented with an everlasting itch for things remote. I love to sail forbidden seas..." - Herman Melville
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