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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2007.05.03 19:52:00 -
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Are there any HP/Compaq specialists in the house?!
Trying to get a straight answer on an HP server memory related question but keep getting crap answers from my distributor.
The question needing answered is weather or not I can use non-standard (eg non HP branded) RAM-sticks in a HP server, the "tech" I was talking to said HP uses branded memory in their servers - thus non-HP memory would most likely not work.
By my experience I haven't so far encountered any problems with machines running on non-standard memory as long as the memory in question is of the same type and speed.
So before I run to HP buying RAM for US$1500 (PC2-5300 ECC SDRAM/667mhz) - Can I simply buy the same specs (5300/667) from kingston and they run fine - even though HP may not recommend it?
And no I have no need for them being either ECC or registered sticks, as the kinston memories are about 4 times cheaper, so I can waste some broken sticks there if the would happen.
So what do you HP specialists say, will my server boot up with the non-HP sticks or not?
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Lazaroth
Caldari Quantum Synergies Eternal Rapture
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Posted - 2007.05.03 20:50:00 -
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I used to work on HP helpdisk, granted this was mostly high end printer support.. But I remember the sale piece none the less.. non HP accesories be that ram/cables/toner whatever was not supported and we were to tell the customers they would most likely encounter problems.. the truth was (according to our info atleast) second party was just as good, and much cheaper.. I know it's no hard evidence.. just a pointer. Also you most likely void warrenty if you use second party ram.
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2007.05.03 21:41:00 -
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Originally by: Lazaroth would most likely encounter problems.. the truth was (according to our info atleast) second party was just as good
This is what my experience is as well, and the guy whom I directed it to first said that they recommend HP-original first, or secondly kingston's memory build based upon the HP configuration - however in the following mails - where my question was weather or not it would work, not if they recommend - he promptly replied - Probably not. Most 3rd party memory borks (Didn't know how to translate the word).
So more or less it feels like a cheap ass sale trick (which ofc should be expected).
A valuable pointer by Lazaroth, anyone else got any thoughts - or better yet, any real experience with 3rd party memory in HP servers.
I will probably buy some cheap 256MB stick with the same specs and test, if that works then the 4GB kits should probably work as well.
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Hllaxiu
Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.05.03 21:55:00 -
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Edited by: Hllaxiu on 03/05/2007 21:52:07
Originally by: Lazaroth Also you most likely void warrenty if you use second party ram.
Pretty blatant violation of the UCC right there...
And yes it'll work, memory is memory (so long as you get the right kind - check for ECC). Its not as if HP actually makes any memory itself - HP has no semiconductor fabs. --- Our greatest glory is not in never failing, but in rising up every time we fail. - Emerson |
Sevarus James
Minmatar Meridian Dynamics FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.03 22:04:00 -
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If the specifications on the RAM are equal (match), then there is no reason whatsoever that after market memory would be any different. My recommendation would be corsair, but that is personal choice.
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Frezik
Celtic Anarchy Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.05.03 22:10:00 -
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Originally by: Hllaxiu And yes it'll work, memory is memory (so long as you get the right kind - check for ECC). Its not as if HP actually makes any memory itself - HP has no semiconductor fabs.
They don't need to make the memory themselves (there are only a few manufacturers of the actual memory chips). Just the circuit board will do.
In the bad old days, desktop machines from nearly any OEM would only work with memory from that OEM. The memory chips themselves were all the same, of course, but the module was often a different size from the standard configuration.
This nonsense has been largely abolished on desktop machines, but I suppose it could still be done on servers. I haven't been employed for sysadmin duties for a while, though.
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2007.05.04 06:45:00 -
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Originally by: Hllaxiu Edited by: Hllaxiu on 03/05/2007 21:52:07
Originally by: Lazaroth Also you most likely void warrenty if you use second party ram.
Pretty blatant violation of the UCC right there...
And yes it'll work, memory is memory (so long as you get the right kind - check for ECC). Its not as if HP actually makes any memory itself - HP has no semiconductor fabs.
I was under the impression that ECC/Registered memory has makes no difference as they are only "extra features" to ensure stability, and in my case this isn't needed and not worth the extra cost - HP's servers _require_ ECC?
And no HP does not make any own memory, they use branded kingston iirc.
Originally by: Sevarus James If the specifications on the RAM are equal (match), then there is no reason whatsoever that after market memory would be any different. My recommendation would be corsair, but that is personal choice.
So far I only come by Kingston sticks with the same specs (DDR2-5300/667) - Corsair is my regular choice but they don't seem to have 4GB kits in DDR2 yet.
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