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Kol Dovakko
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2017.03.26 05:15:03 -
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So I started playing back when the game went f2p and I did enjoy it. I've been looking to get back in but I want to know if playing as an alpha clone is really viable in higher-tier content such as null sec.
Kol Dragonborn, Captain of The West
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Cade Windstalker
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Posted - 2017.03.26 05:17:19 -
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Define 'viable'?
What's viable vs what's not is dependent entirely on what your goals are. If you want to fly a capital ship out in Null then obviously the answer is no. If you just want to fly out in Null and be part of the fun out there then yeah, sure, there are quite a few groups out there that will happily take Alpha pilots. |
Soel Reit
Dambusters 617 Sq
681
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Posted - 2017.03.26 05:19:03 -
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you can play easily and acculumate enough isk to buy a plex as an alpha in null or highsec
BUT if you have money just sub #FuckAlphas |
Kol Dovakko
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2017.03.26 05:26:58 -
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Cade Windstalker wrote:Define 'viable'?
What's viable vs what's not is dependent entirely on what your goals are. If you want to fly a capital ship out in Null then obviously the answer is no. If you just want to fly out in Null and be part of the fun out there then yeah, sure, there are quite a few groups out there that will happily take Alpha pilots.
Basically, since alphas are limited to T1 ships I believe and also limited in skills...can they effectively take part in pvp in null sec or low sec whether grouped or solo.
Kol Dragonborn, Captain of The West
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Schnozymandias
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2017.03.26 05:34:04 -
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They can, yes. They will have an easier time in fleets/small groups than in solo however. Caldari and Gallente Alphas probably have the best PvE and PvP options for null though. |
Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
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Posted - 2017.03.26 06:41:10 -
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I mean probably, there is always some video of people wrecking others on low sp chars. surely there are a bunch that you get wrecked, but if you can find some favorable fights you can get some very good kills. And of course there is a factor where you team up and everyone gets stronger.
I'd say play for a while see if you like it. If you like it it is worth subbing for a few months. after that you should probably be able to pay with plex after a while, or keep paying with rl cash. I subbed my alt accounts with plex for the most part for my early years, and am plexing all my accounts these days.
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Akrasjel Lanate
Naquatech Conglomerate Naquatech Syndicate
1980
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Posted - 2017.03.26 07:19:59 -
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Alpha is like unlimited trial, it viable if all you want is within skill limit it offers, If you want more simply subscribe to Omega.
Akrasjel Lanate
Founder and CEO of Naquatech Conglomerate
Executor of Naquatech Syndicate
Citizen of Solitude
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ApexDynamo
Hazardous Wormhole Rebels
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Posted - 2017.03.26 11:33:55 -
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i for one didnt like doing free to play, the limited skills you can train on free to play vrs the 21 day trial seems a tad ruined |
The Devils Cousin
Evian Industries EVIAN NATION
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Posted - 2017.03.26 11:37:36 -
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Kol Dovakko wrote:So I started playing back when the game went f2p and I did enjoy it. I've been looking to get back in but I want to know if playing as an alpha clone is really viable in higher-tier content such as null sec.
I started an Alpha account and i stream playing, ive made over 3 billion isk so far n im still alpha
:) |
Julien Brellier
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2017.03.26 11:50:43 -
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Alpha's don't need to worry about making 1.2billion isk every 30 days to pay for a plex. Alpha's can fly faction ships, some of which are just as good as T2 or pirate ships. Alpha's can compete in pvp without being at a huge disadvantage.
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Trasch Taranogas
State War Academy Caldari State
132
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Posted - 2017.03.26 12:30:44 -
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The one thing that made me go Omega was cloaking.
Live or die, YOUR choice.
~Eve
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Remmy Jaxon
Shepard Inc. Augmentum Eva
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Posted - 2017.03.26 13:09:14 -
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Well, if the time comes and you have trained everything as an Alpha and you are still having a blast playing the game, then please subscribe and become an Omega and support the game makers. |
foramus alticus
sergals in space
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Posted - 2017.03.26 13:18:33 -
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Might be looking at alpha the wrong way. With an alpha you can make enough ingame money to upgrade to omega without spending rl money. Many many nulsec groups (TEST, horde, goons ect...) have programs to do just that. Get the alpha bros to omega using in game isk.
For example a omega guy will get an alpha to follow his carrier around in PVE. He kills the NPCs and the alpha bro loots and salvages the wrecks.
Alpha is a tool to let players either make enough isk in game to get omega via plex or one to try out the game and see if you want to subscribe to omega |
Lulu Lunette
Savage Moon Society
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Posted - 2017.03.26 13:20:54 -
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Yes.
@lunettelulu7
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Vigirr
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Posted - 2017.03.26 13:56:01 -
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It all depends on the goals you set for yourself. Most people choose to set far ahead goals (or choose to play games that set far ahead goals for them) where "better", "higher" and "more" are the lure to endure the grind and invest time, effort and money to get to those goals, only to have the goal posts changed. For people who think like this then alpha "sucks", then again everything they have right now sucks and the only better option is "better" and "more": the grass is always greener elsewhere.
EVE is different, you CAN still follow that goal oriented play style but you don't HAVE to. In EVE you set the goals yourself, there's no difference in mining in Venture or a Skiff, it's exactly the same thing just as doing a lvl 1 quest to kill spiders is exactly the same as a lvl 100 quest to kill wolves. This goes for most things in EVE, you can pvp, trade, run missions and do almost all other stuff just fine as an alpha. Being Omega and being able to have "more" doesn't automatically make it better or more fun.
there are some things that are gated but those aren't must have options, they're choices... at best. |
Matthias Ancaladron
Wrath of Angels Solitaire.
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Posted - 2017.03.26 15:37:03 -
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Yep im an alpha. Bought a plex and i have about 2b or so with maybe.... 23 daysmleft give or take. So i should be good for another month already. Never spent a dime. If you sub youre forever beneath me
Well 2b including stuff to sell not cash. |
Kaivarian Coste
Placid Peace Corps
140
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Posted - 2017.03.26 16:15:51 -
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As an Alpha, your cost to play is $0. You can also fly the Gnosis, a Battlecruiser that requires little skill to pilot. You can make some pretty dank isk in faction warfare or low-sec belt-ratting in the Gnosis. |
000Hunter000
Missiles 'R' Us
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Posted - 2017.03.26 20:22:31 -
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Matthias Ancaladron wrote:If you sub youre forever beneath me
Well atleast i'm not a douche |
Marcus Tedric
Zebra Corp Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2017.03.26 20:57:57 -
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Yes...
Provided what you like doing and get enjoyment from doing is within the scope of an Alpha.
You can take as long as you like to see if that is true, or to decide if you want to subscribe:
- either by being able to pay with RL money
- or if not working or not working enough, then spending sufficient time to earn sufficient isk each month to PLEX your account
Don't soil your panties, you guys made a good point, we'll look at the numbers again. - CCP Ytterbium
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Ranzabar
Golden Ratio One Six One
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Posted - 2017.03.26 21:48:48 -
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If you don't want to shell out the money for Omega, then you'll have to figure out how to play with the limitations of Alpha. I think it will be hard to do in the long run.
Abide
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Kathern Aurilen
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Posted - 2017.03.27 08:07:01 -
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There is nothing wrong or overly crippling about being an alpha, just can't fly T2. I've never flown a t2 or a pirate or navy ships. The only t2 stuff I ever flew was mining barges and exhumers.
I make plenty just mining in a venture to pay for what I do fly. I have plenty cruisers and frigs.
Just find a corp that goes out in mass and have fun. I've seen a video of just destroyers taking down a a undefended Titian... Took them a while but they got it, bet that was cool.
No cuts, no butts, no coconuts!
Forum alt, unskilled in the ways of pewpew!
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Lord Harrowmont
Quantum Decoherence
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Posted - 2017.03.27 08:13:09 -
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Na it's pretty trash tbf |
Gregorius Goldstein
Ze One Man Show
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Posted - 2017.03.27 11:01:04 -
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I play both Alpha and Omega accounts. I think Omega is worth the money but Alpha are viable if you are OK with certain limits. Like lowish DPS. While Omegas can use higher DPS weapons and/or higher DPS ships an Alpha account hits a "DPS-wall" and the only way to shred certain things is to fleet up with other. Teaming up opens a lot of options for alpha accounts, even if you form an all Alpha gang.
Because EVE is a sandbox with countless possibilities playing an Alpha Account is a lot about finding creative ways to get things done. Information is very important in EVE. Spying and finding valuable easy targets for example is an good Alpha profession. |
Agent 5B
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2017.03.27 21:01:46 -
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As a solo alpha you find yourself running away a lot because they see you and choose to come after you with a ship or group of ships that is enough to kill you.
As a solo omega you find yourself running away a lot because they see you and choose to come after you with a ship or group of ships that is enough to kill you. |
Kathern Aurilen
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Posted - 2017.03.28 12:58:41 -
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Agent 5B wrote:As a solo alpha you find yourself running away a lot because they see you and choose to come after you with a ship or group of ships that is enough to kill you.
As a solo omega you find yourself running away a lot because they see you and choose to come after you with a ship or group of ships that is enough to kill you. They are the same to me too more or less. I like just dinking around as an alpha, fun and don't risk too much.
When my ol lady lets me sub, I fly bigger ships... Dinking around just able to risk more and and bigger.
I'm mainly a miner as an alpha I mine in my max yield venture about 1/4 of than my low yeild tank Hulk, 1/3 of my max yeild Skiff, or 1/2 a max yeild Macknaw(not mine, mine is VERY TANKED). So I'm not crippled as an alpha but I could do much better if I sub.
No cuts, no butts, no coconuts!
Forum alt, unskilled in the ways of pewpew!
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Rotho Ataru
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
17
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Posted - 2017.03.28 13:14:33 -
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Alphas are fine if you're okay with the ship limitation. You can still have fun in small scale PVP groups. |
lost packet
Alpha Flight Almost Broken
100
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Posted - 2017.03.28 13:34:46 -
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Kaivarian Coste wrote:As an Alpha, your cost to play is $0. You can also fly the Gnosis, a Battlecruiser that requires little skill to pilot. You can make some pretty dank isk in faction warfare or low-sec belt-ratting in the Gnosis.
Low sec belt ratting =ƒÿÇ
Alpha Flight are recruiting pilots | Almost Broken are recruiting corporations
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RolandofGilead Hakaari
Wyzardz Late Night Overheating
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Posted - 2017.03.28 19:17:05 -
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Trasch Taranogas wrote:The one thing that made me go Omega was cloaking.
Um. This. |
Raisa Molotova
Cookie Campus
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Posted - 2017.03.28 19:27:30 -
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Playing as alpha can really be fun. I must admit i am considering going omega - alpha is trying to lure you to omega after all - but i am pretty sure the fun is the same. Being omega just makes it possible to burn more isk in a shorter amount of time |
Silivar Karkun
Brothership Of EVE The Initiative.
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Posted - 2017.03.28 19:58:13 -
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i was a seasonal Omega Clone before the F2P conversion. now that im Alpha i can stick to corp and alliance even if its only to bring a T1 tackle ship on fleets or a petty Venture for mining ops.
i dont have to worry about PLEX, or Isk, since i can still do practically any income generating operation, even Wormhole anomalies.
just yesterday spent 75 million ISK on a faction cruiser with the best fit my alpha skills could get, it basically paid itself after 3 or 4 forsaken hubs in null. and it does it faster than my "VNI alternative".
should climb to Omega soon, but what for? i practically do the same i used to do when i was subscribed, only difference was not being able to cloak or mount BC and BS class ships. no problem for me.
i wasnt even in T2 damage mods before Alpha, if you feel you dont get enough out of Meta4 try to save some money for Navy/Pirate modules.
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