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elitatwo
Dicker Quick and Hyde Defense Attorneys O.U.Z.O. Alliance
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Posted - 2017.03.27 12:27:54 -
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For quite some time I watched the state of the test server environment decline into the sad state it is now.
Since the citadels came out the test server declined into "spam online". Everyone had to put up a keepstar into 6-CZ49 so they can dock their sooper doopers and it became an unbearable mess of citadel spam.
The next mirror people started to be more proactive with the placements of their sooper dooper docking cities in space, so they placed them at the combat areas with a perfect view down to the beacon.
I am quite aware that the test server wasn't intended to try out new fits or fits at all but most metas originated here on the test server environment.
A new mirror just arrived and not even 5 hours later 6 keepstars are onlining at the combat area beacons, so the sooper dooper pilots can undock their titans or whatever they need to "test".
And another thing came from the "free tether" services - nobody needs logi anymore.
This may not be a big deal but when you start investigating logi ships and setups for them and everyone just warps to a tether when they want to.
Not only does nobody but the sooper dooper pilots want to log on the test server anymore but whole communities died because of keepstar online.
From your own website I quote, "...test in a "real world" environment..."
Think about this and let the class know how many entities in New Eden can even put up a 700 billion isk city without some serious hurt in someones wallet?
Eve Minions is recruiting.
This is the law of ship progression!
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ISD Max Trix
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
1698
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Posted - 2017.03.27 12:37:20 -
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Quote:Since the citadels came out the test server declined into "spam online". Everyone had to put up a keepstar into 6-CZ49 so they can dock their sooper doopers and it became an unbearable mess of citadel spam.
If you review the DEV post, This was a test on how having multiple Citadels in the same system effects server performance and was intentionally set up this way by CCP.
ISD Max Trix
Lieutenant
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department
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elitatwo
Dicker Quick and Hyde Defense Attorneys O.U.Z.O. Alliance
1680
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Posted - 2017.03.27 12:42:48 -
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I did and the mirror after that was performing much better.
Still that fact remains that we used to log on to sisi to blow of some steam or put our thinking hats on and put some cool things together.
Now whenever you log on to sisi you see capital online and people asking for much goodererererer ratting sooper dooper fits to inject even more isk into New Eden.
There aren't many left whom fly real ships anymore.
Eve Minions is recruiting.
This is the law of ship progression!
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Carrig Sarn
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2017.03.29 00:08:56 -
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To be honest, SiSi was "Capital Ships Online" long before the Citadel update. Hell, I personally jump on every now and then to toy with super fits wi |
elitatwo
Dicker Quick and Hyde Defense Attorneys O.U.Z.O. Alliance
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Posted - 2017.03.29 04:08:30 -
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Yeah but when you log on during the day you see like < 30 people in the pvp system and a few more on the weekend.
The most annoying thing being 7 keepstars looking down at the ca1 beacon.
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This is the law of ship progression!
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Xynthiar
Tactical Narcotics Team
26
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Posted - 2017.03.29 04:15:57 -
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elitatwo wrote:Yeah but when you log on during the day you see like < 30 people in the pvp system and a few more on the weekend.
The most annoying thing being 7 keepstars looking down at the ca1 beacon.
1) There are a lot more people on when there are new things to test. There's nothing new on the test server atm. 2) There are two keepstars (or citadels of any kind for that matter) at the ca1 beacon, not seven. |
elitatwo
Dicker Quick and Hyde Defense Attorneys O.U.Z.O. Alliance
1685
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Posted - 2017.03.29 06:01:39 -
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No, no, no, I didn't say it was bad that capitals are there.
My point is that even with capitals and harsh language in local there were still enough people on whom were flying cool ships you could fight against or wanted to try out fittings or tactics.
You don't see many people these days.
Eve Minions is recruiting.
This is the law of ship progression!
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March rabbit
Mosquito Squadron The-Culture
2115
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Posted - 2017.03.31 09:20:00 -
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elitatwo wrote:No, no, no, I didn't say it was bad that capitals are there.
My point is that even with capitals and harsh language in local there were still enough people on whom were flying cool ships you could fight against or wanted to try out fittings or tactics.
You don't see many people these days. I guess one of the reasons is that bugs which was reported for SiSi successfully migrate to Tranquility. Seen lots of such posts in forums. Maybe people just see uselessness of this testing?
Personally i don't have much reasons to visit it. Testing something new? Thanks, i will wait for half a year for most bugs to get fixed and to most nerfs already done to not get screwed with new toy.
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elitatwo
Dicker Quick and Hyde Defense Attorneys O.U.Z.O. Alliance
1691
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Posted - 2017.03.31 19:48:22 -
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What is even more sad is that if you try something new, nobody wants to help you.
In six weeks I was able to use my remote reps twice or so. Everyone else was "testing" their dreads or carrier ratting fits.
You know, the ones that make mucherererer isk and stuff. Because when you make more isk than everyone else it it is much goodererer for you and since you are the only one ratting in zee carrier and like yourself very, very much and stuff, you need even more isk than everyone else, so you can make more isk because everything else doesnt count or exist and you isk is much more important than everyone elses because you make more isk than everyone else does your your 7000 sooper dooper ratting accounte, so your isk is more worth than everyone elses isk because you like yourself so much that only you count and everyone else who is note flying 7000 sooper dooper is a scrub because it cannot make as much isk without zee sooper dooper ratting ships.
Eve Minions is recruiting.
This is the law of ship progression!
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March rabbit
Mosquito Squadron The-Culture
2115
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Posted - 2017.03.31 19:54:11 -
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elitatwo wrote:What is even more sad is that if you try something new, nobody wants to help you.
In six weeks I was able to use my remote reps twice or so. Everyone else was "testing" their dreads or carrier ratting fits.
You know, the ones that make mucherererer isk and stuff. Because when you make more isk than everyone else it it is much goodererer for you and since you are the only one ratting in zee carrier and like yourself very, very much and stuff, you need even more isk than everyone else, so you can make more isk because everything else doesnt count or exist and you isk is much more important than everyone elses because you make more isk than everyone else does your your 7000 sooper dooper ratting accounte, so your isk is more worth than everyone elses isk because you like yourself so much that only you count and everyone else who is note flying 7000 sooper dooper is a scrub because it cannot make as much isk without zee sooper dooper ratting ships.
Well.... It is better to have more ISK than less isn't it? More ISK makes you use more expensive ships/stuff and not play 'frigate online'.
And yes, if you have more ISK that others you won 'PvP' too
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elitatwo
Dicker Quick and Hyde Defense Attorneys O.U.Z.O. Alliance
1691
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Posted - 2017.03.31 23:51:05 -
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Oh that wasn't about you, silly.
Eve Minions is recruiting.
This is the law of ship progression!
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Amak Boma
Dragon Factory
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Posted - 2017.04.01 08:04:56 -
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just make simple change - MAKE ACCELERATION GATE to each combat zone and make 3or 4 combat zones without capital access so subcaps would have more room to go than being dropped by people with 20 titan alts. |
elitatwo
Dicker Quick and Hyde Defense Attorneys O.U.Z.O. Alliance
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Posted - 2017.04.01 08:18:50 -
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If you remember correctly, capitals were always a problem but then our fellow capsuleers just went to ca2-9 instead, no biggy.
The sad thing is, now you wont find many that don't fly a dread or carrier because of cheat-sticks.
Eve Minions is recruiting.
This is the law of ship progression!
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Zarek Kree
Lunatic Legion Holdings
109
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Posted - 2017.04.01 18:03:36 -
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elitatwo wrote:Not only does nobody but the sooper dooper pilots want to log on the test server anymore but whole communities died because of keepstar online.
I'm no cap pilot and I log onto the test server regularly to try various fits in various PvE environments. |
Caleb Seremshur
Black Scorpions Inc Circle-Of-Two
871
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Posted - 2017.05.05 05:17:02 -
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I sympathise with elitatwo. After the citadel expansion the sisi server just became a hole. I used to pay a sub just to play in an arena version of EVE without the B.S. of the main server.
Now the B.S. is part of sisi and my sub expired long ago. |
Urist Mcflyship
Zebra Corp Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2017.05.05 15:13:02 -
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What I'm reading is "Boohoo, I went on sisi to do things anybody with a brain can do on tranq with a t1 hull, and nobody wanted to play with me".
Sisi is for testing new features and ultra-expensive fits. Not for 'testing' subjects that have been beaten to death, such as subcap logi. |
Joe Barbarian
I'm fine and You aren't Goonswarm Federation
4
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Posted - 2017.05.05 15:29:28 -
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Reading this thread as I play a small violin.
Just in case you wasn't aware OP that SiSi is a test server, you know to test things like "how many keepstars can we online in a week" Why care so much for SiSi and it's keepstars? |
haseo yashimora
Nucleotide
7
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Posted - 2017.05.05 15:42:59 -
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all i see is bitching and moaning in this thread lol
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Enigma08
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2017.05.06 12:10:37 -
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I'm glad I logged into the forums before I resubscribed. CCP/ISD openly shows their contempt for the player base. One might be inclined to think that spoiled teenagers have taken over.
Eve Online, "Free To Play" (or ignore).
Why I won't resubscribe.
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ISD Max Trix
isd community communications liaisons
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Posted - 2017.05.06 12:35:29 -
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12. Discussion of forum moderation is prohibited.
The discussion of EVE Online forum moderation actions generally leads to flaming, trolling and baiting of our ISD CCL moderators. As such, this type of discussion is strictly prohibited under the forum rules. If you have questions regarding the actions of a moderator, please file a support ticket under the Community & Forums Category.
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ISD Max Trix
Lieutenant
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department
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Soldarius
O C C U P Y Test Alliance Please Ignore
1615
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Posted - 2017.05.08 14:31:17 -
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The test server is also used by tournament teams for the purposes of testing and scrimmaging because doing so on TQ is literally impossible. The isk costs alone would be prohibitive. And then you would get randoms that decide it would be cute to crash your practice session with titans or some such.
Sisi is actually vital for tournament teams.
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Enigma08
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
4
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Posted - 2017.05.09 13:08:09 -
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ISD Max Trix wrote:Quote:Since the citadels came out the test server declined into "spam online". Everyone had to put up a keepstar into 6-CZ49 so they can dock their sooper doopers and it became an unbearable mess of citadel spam. If you review the DEV post, This was a test on how having multiple Citadels in the same system effects server performance and was intentionally set up this way by CCP. Let's throw any expectation of realism out the window, shall we?
As everyone starts out in Eve Online (Tranquility) with a Trillion Free ISK, Perimeter will look just like 6-C.
*The test server (sisi) is strictly for whims of ccp. **"Affect" is a verb, "effect" is mostly commonly used as a noun. ($10.99)
To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.
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Carrig Sarn
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
3
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Posted - 2017.05.10 06:59:59 -
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Soldarius wrote:The test server is also used by tournament teams for the purposes of testing and scrimmaging because doing so on TQ is literally impossible. The isk costs alone would be prohibitive. And then you would get randoms that decide it would be cute to crash your practice session with titans or some such.
Sisi is actually vital for tournament teams.
Thought they had an opportunity to do so on Duality, because tbf, doing so on a regular CA on Sisi would be next to impossible as well. |
Caleb Seremshur
Pineapple Pizza LLC
875
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Posted - 2017.05.11 10:30:18 -
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Carrig Sarn wrote:Soldarius wrote:The test server is also used by tournament teams for the purposes of testing and scrimmaging because doing so on TQ is literally impossible. The isk costs alone would be prohibitive. And then you would get randoms that decide it would be cute to crash your practice session with titans or some such.
Sisi is actually vital for tournament teams. Thought they had an opportunity to do so on Duality, because tbf, doing so on a regular CA on Sisi would be next to impossible as well.
Can't even see the point of it unless the AT is held on a server with a much higher tickrate and other specially coded features |
Jonny Copper
Local Spike.
99
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Posted - 2017.05.26 15:07:11 -
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The citadel spam is somewhat real. I do think that without it there would be increased risks of perimeter crashing and causing even more QQ than 2 dozen people being unhappy with citadel spam. I also think that citadel spam can be easily avoided, even more so if you are in a subcap. Capitals mostly rule CA1 and if you want to avoid citadel spam CA3-9 are almost exclusively empty. I also think the decrease in players comes from a larger set of factors. There used to be rivalries with two groups that played regularly whereas now there's just one "bad guys" group with the added randos. In addition, over the life of the mirror less people come on as their supers get blobed and people lose reasons to login. On the flip side goons login for training every Saturday, and nothing like this ever really happened before. It's more of an odd evolution cycle than anything. |
Caleb Seremshur
Pineapple Pizza LLC
884
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Posted - 2017.06.06 11:47:25 -
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I didn't realise the purpose of the test server was for mucking about in supers and shitting on randos. |
Jonny Copper
Local Spike.
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Posted - 2017.06.07 05:06:36 -
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Caleb Seremshur wrote:I didn't realise the purpose of the test server was for mucking about in supers and shitting on randos.
Can confirm it's been like this since 2014. It's also practice grounds for..... wait for it..... not AT....... but multiboxing dread bombs. |
Caleb Seremshur
Pineapple Pizza LLC
884
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Posted - 2017.06.07 11:49:23 -
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there is a whole universe to **** around in if you want to pvp in honorrabul dewel. |
Romana Erebus
EVE ACTORS GUILD
61
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Posted - 2017.06.08 13:58:17 -
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ISD Max Trix wrote:Quote:Since the citadels came out the test server declined into "spam online". Everyone had to put up a keepstar into 6-CZ49 so they can dock their sooper doopers and it became an unbearable mess of citadel spam. If you review the DEV post, This was a test on how having multiple Citadels in the same system effects server performance and was intentionally set up this way by CCP.
Doesnt mean they had to use the main testing system to have the 100+ keepstars up. Kind of defeats the purpose of testing things in there when the lag is so thick insects get stuck in it. They could have made 6-c like Jita with no citadels able to anchor and just use the system next door for the citadel testing spam. So the answer to performance is copious amounts of lag and a variety of strange bugs. |
Mollie Mormon
Interstellar Consciousness
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Posted - 2017.06.08 15:27:53 -
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Romana Erebus wrote:Doesnt mean they had to use the main testing system to have the 100+ keepstars up. Kind of defeats the purpose of testing things in there when the lag is so thick insects get stuck in it. They could have made 6-c like Jita with no citadels able to anchor and just use the system next door for the citadel testing spam. So the answer to performance is copious amounts of lag and a variety of strange bugs.
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