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Nicola Romanoff
Interstellar Nuclear Penguins Penguin Mafia.
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Posted - 2017.03.28 09:28:30 -
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And so it transpires that I need to find myself another corp to live in. It seems that I cannot find that corp to stay in for years and wanted to find out if others had the same issue.
It always seems to be the same m.o
1. You hunt for a corp on eve forums or reddit, and/or you post an advert with you spiel on the same. 2. You get contacted by peoples 3. You speak to those people and maybe make a decision on the back of that 4. You join, move all your stuff to their system. 5. A few weeks or months later something isnt right and you start again. The something not right could be anything, it could either be the corp was not as advertised, less active that you would like, rip off JF service if you're in null that winds you up, or the corp goes in a direction that you don't want to go in and whilst you like the people, you dont want go in that direction and/or any other reason.
This is not sustainable and I don't want to keep on jumping corps. Ive alradyplaced an advert up but then thought about writing here to see if anyone can offer suggestions on finding that ideal corp without having to take a punt on the forums/reddit.
The forum post always tend to be the same, a list of wants, don't wants and what I have to obring to a corp, that sounds like a good basic premise to work on, but it obviously isn't working for me. But just having a bit of difficulty tthinking outside the box on this.
Thanks
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Salvos Rhoska
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Posted - 2017.03.28 09:47:19 -
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Options: -Keep trying to find the perfect corp. -Accept disappointment as inevitable. -Try to influence corp to match your needs, or aim to take it over. -Start a corp yourself and build it to match your needs. -Fk it all and fly solo.
All of them are hard choices.
I think what would work best for you, is write up a list of what you, yourself, want. This will help you narrow down what corp or option best serves your interests.
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Nicola Romanoff
Interstellar Nuclear Penguins Penguin Mafia.
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Posted - 2017.03.28 10:03:55 -
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HI Salvos, thanks for replying. Some interesting options there. I've thought about having my own corp that others join (I have had my own corp that I used just to keep all 6 of my toons together) but I dont think that is for me.
I think on my forum ad I have tried to define the parameters but outlining the things that i am looking for, perehaps I need to be more specific there, certainly something to look into.
You're right though, they are difficult choices :) |
Salvos Rhoska
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Posted - 2017.03.28 10:10:38 -
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EVE is all about what you want for yourself. Our motivations are what define EVE from a mere box of sand.
Once you figure out what you want (which is no small task), it is much easier to make that happen.
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Nicola Romanoff
Interstellar Nuclear Penguins Penguin Mafia.
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Posted - 2017.03.28 10:45:29 -
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I agree in part. Deciding what you want to do is half the battle, I have done this. The difficulty I am realising is actually finding that ingame with a group that you gel with AND they do all those things you like/need too.
Ill prob stay solo for a bit and bide my time, something may come along. |
Salvos Rhoska
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Posted - 2017.03.28 10:56:24 -
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Nicola Romanoff wrote: Deciding what you want to do is half the battle, I have done this.
Lay it out here.
What is it you decided you want?
Everyone wants a motivated player in their corp that matches their own ends. Dont forget or underestimate that you are a very valuable asset and have high demand. Once you state what you want, and it matches theirs, they will fight each other to get you.
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lmmortalist
A-Clinic Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2017.03.28 11:09:55 -
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Rather than trying to hunt for the right corp try hunting for the right people. Getting along socially is extremely important. Also they should be in a corp that isn't too restrictive on the activities you enjoy in eve. Sov 0.0 corps for instance can be problematic because of a bunch of rules, forced activites such as CTAs etc.
So in other words, take your time to get to know people and either try to form your own community around them or join theirs', as long as their corp isn't too restrictive. |
Nicola Romanoff
Interstellar Nuclear Penguins Penguin Mafia.
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Posted - 2017.03.28 11:24:05 -
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lmmortalist wrote:Rather than trying to hunt for the right corp try hunting for the right people. Getting along socially is extremely important. Also they should be in a corp that isn't too restrictive on the activities you enjoy in eve. Sov 0.0 corps for instance can be problematic because of a bunch of rules, forced activites such as CTAs etc.
So in other words, take your time to get to know people and either try to form your own community around them or join theirs', as long as their corp isn't too restrictive.
I like this concept, and it makes a lot of sense that if you find the right people then hopefully the rest will come along behind it. Of course once people join a corp then their are generally in their own chat channel (bar immediate local) but it is certainly something I will consider more, thanks. |
Nicola Romanoff
Interstellar Nuclear Penguins Penguin Mafia.
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Posted - 2017.03.28 11:25:00 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:Nicola Romanoff wrote: Deciding what you want to do is half the battle, I have done this. Lay it out here. What is it you decided you want? Everyone wants a motivated player in their corp that matches their own ends. Dont forget or underestimate that you are a very valuable asset and have high demand. Once you state what you want, and it matches theirs, they will fight each other to get you.
I do have a recruitment post up under this toon, I am writing this out on a tablet so linking to it is a pain at the moment. |
Salvos Rhoska
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Posted - 2017.03.28 11:51:06 -
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Nicola Romanoff wrote:Salvos Rhoska wrote:Nicola Romanoff wrote: Deciding what you want to do is half the battle, I have done this. Lay it out here. What is it you decided you want? Everyone wants a motivated player in their corp that matches their own ends. Dont forget or underestimate that you are a very valuable asset and have high demand. Once you state what you want, and it matches theirs, they will fight each other to get you. I do have a recruitment post up under this toon, I am writing this out on a tablet so linking to it is a pain at the moment.
Pfft. I do 99% of my posting on a tablet as a remote to my PC, whilst knocking back beers and smoking on my balcony.
Copy/paste the link or text :D
I wanna see what you decided as what you want!
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Nicola Romanoff
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Posted - 2017.03.28 12:25:15 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:Nicola Romanoff wrote:Salvos Rhoska wrote:Nicola Romanoff wrote: Deciding what you want to do is half the battle, I have done this. Lay it out here. What is it you decided you want? Everyone wants a motivated player in their corp that matches their own ends. Dont forget or underestimate that you are a very valuable asset and have high demand. Once you state what you want, and it matches theirs, they will fight each other to get you. I do have a recruitment post up under this toon, I am writing this out on a tablet so linking to it is a pain at the moment. Pfft. I do 99% of my posting on a tablet as a remote to my PC, whilst knocking back beers and smoking on my balcony. Copy/paste the link or text :D I wanna see what you decided as what you want!
Lmao, I know you wont believe me but I wrote an entire reply and the old stupid ipad ate it. Ill do a response to thisbut Ill wait till later on my machine at home |
Trevor Dalech
Nobody in Local Of Sound Mind
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Posted - 2017.03.28 12:53:08 -
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One method I've successfully used myself is, instead of finding a corp and then moving to their area, find a place to live first and then start interacting with the locals. (In my case this was usually in low sec, and interacting means shooting them and getting shot by them.) Talk to them, build up some contacts, perhaps fleet with them a few times, and if you enjoy this, ask to join them.... if they haven't invited you by then already.
Of course, this won't really work if you plan to join a null sec corp, and most high sec players won't respond well to my forms of interaction. |
Salvos Rhoska
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Posted - 2017.03.28 12:55:53 -
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Nicola Romanoff wrote:Lmao, I know you wont believe me but I wrote an entire reply and the old stupid ipad ate it. Ill do a response to thisbut Ill wait till later on my machine at home
I believe you. Next time get an android tablet :D
I look forward to your reply. Im legit interested what you decided you want most.
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Kathern Aurilen
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Posted - 2017.03.28 13:35:02 -
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i join a corp to hang with the people, not to be forced to do what I'm not comfortable or feel like doing or be someone's income source or standing army if I dont agree with it.
So I chitchat on local doing my little thing till I start to hang out with on local or direct chat. I liked hanging with the mining fleets in a kinda local ice field. When I was there 20 of us on local chatting away laughing and passing the time, if anyone was attacked all the support ships(even in different fleets and corps) would help out. Let a couple cats try cutting into a mining ship with 7 orcas remote repping it.
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Lulu Lunette
Savage Moon Society
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Posted - 2017.03.28 13:36:02 -
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Welcome to my world
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Tuttomenui II
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2017.03.28 14:15:45 -
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My corp is cool, join my corp. Be one of us... One of us... ONE OF US!!!!!! j/k |
Nicola Romanoff
Interstellar Nuclear Penguins Penguin Mafia.
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Posted - 2017.03.28 14:41:00 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:Nicola Romanoff wrote:Lmao, I know you wont believe me but I wrote an entire reply and the old stupid ipad ate it. Ill do a response to thisbut Ill wait till later on my machine at home I believe you. Next time get an android tablet :D I look forward to your reply. Im legit interested what you decided you want most.
I shall do it tonight when I get home |
Nicola Romanoff
Interstellar Nuclear Penguins Penguin Mafia.
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Posted - 2017.03.28 14:41:52 -
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Kathern Aurilen wrote:i join a corp to hang with the people, not to be forced to do what I'm not comfortable or feel like doing or be someone's income source or standing army if I dont agree with it.
So I chitchat on local doing my little thing till I start to hang out with on local or direct chat. I liked hanging with the mining fleets in a kinda local ice field. When I was there 20 of us on local chatting away laughing and passing the time, if anyone was attacked all the support ships(even in different fleets and corps) would help out. Let a couple cats try cutting into a mining ship with 7 orcas remote repping it.
Is this what you do, or how you look to join a corp? |
Nicola Romanoff
Interstellar Nuclear Penguins Penguin Mafia.
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Posted - 2017.03.28 14:43:21 -
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Trevor Dalech wrote:One method I've successfully used myself is, instead of finding a corp and then moving to their area, find a place to live first and then start interacting with the locals. (In my case this was usually in low sec, and interacting means shooting them and getting shot by them.) Talk to them, build up some contacts, perhaps fleet with them a few times, and if you enjoy this, ask to join them.... if they haven't invited you by then already.
Of course, this won't really work if you plan to join a null sec corp, and most high sec players won't respond well to my forms of interaction.
I like this option, I may try it, but yeah not in null, well... Maybe NPC null... BTW, I used to be in your corp :) |
Nicola Romanoff
Interstellar Nuclear Penguins Penguin Mafia.
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Posted - 2017.03.28 14:44:11 -
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Lulu Lunette wrote:Welcome to my world
Tell me about your world Lulu :) |
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Nicola Romanoff
Interstellar Nuclear Penguins Penguin Mafia.
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Posted - 2017.03.28 14:45:01 -
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Tuttomenui II wrote:My corp is cool, join my corp. Be one of us... One of us... ONE OF US!!!!!! j/k
For some reason I did actually laugh out loud to this. |
Beast of Revelations
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2017.03.28 15:03:47 -
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This is why I hate to read the drivel of the elitist null-sec snobs who post their insults about people who stay in high-sec. They define high-sec'ers as a monolith of carebear miners or whatever else, 'risk averse,' 'WOW players' etc.
Some of us are stuck in high-sec because we kind of have no other choice (meaning, whatever choices there are aren't particularly good ones). I am not a miner, and I've never played WOW. I would like nothing more than to be in null-sec, or in a wormhole corp. But I have issues with joining a blob of people I don't know from Adam, who don't know me from Adam, and who have corporate objectives or politics which either aren't in line with mine, or even worse, are inscrutable or unknown or constantly changing.
I've tried to get my real-life friends to play Eve. They won't. I've tried meeting folks on the forums or in-game or whatever. That didn't work (I met some, they never want to do anything except what they are already doing, which is generally solo mining, solo exploration, or whatever). I've tried doing solo wormhole stuff. That 'worked' in the sense that I can scan down a wormhole, go in, poke around, run a few relic sites or whatever. But what if you don't want to be a small-time wormhole explorer your entire Eve existence, making $30 mil ISK per hour running exploration sites? I'd like to bring a battleship in and try running some of the combat sites, but that is pure suicide and begging for a gank. I once found a guy running wormholes on these forums. Messaged him and asked if he'd like to explore options for working together. He was paranoid that I was a spy or assassin or ganker or whatever. So you are back to trying to find some like-minded people to play the game with - in other words back to square one. For some, that's a difficult or impossible task. |
Salvos Rhoska
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Posted - 2017.03.28 15:17:38 -
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Beast of Revelations wrote:Messaged him and asked if he'd like to explore options for working together. He was paranoid that I was a spy or assassin or ganker or whatever. So you are back to trying to find some like-minded people to play the game with - in other words back to square one. For some, that's a difficult or impossible task.
No offense, but you kind of shot yourself in the foot with your name and avatar :D
Nonetheless, Id risk cooperation with you, as long as our interests align. You are clearly intelligent. Idiots are far less predictable.
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Beast of Revelations
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Posted - 2017.03.28 15:29:57 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote: No offense, but you kind of shot yourself in the foot with your name and avatar :D
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Quote:Nonetheless, Id risk cooperation with you, as long as our interests align. Message me. |
Bjorn Tyrson
EVE University Ivy League
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Posted - 2017.03.28 16:28:51 -
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I've had that issue as well, one of the bigger annoyances for me is when I do put up a looking for corp advertisement, and inevitably half of the responses are from people who have clearly either not even read my post, or read it and ignored it.
"looking for a WH corp with a mix of pvp and pve activity, ideally one that has infrastructure for industry in place or would be willing to allow me to set up that infrastructure. USTZ"
Gets responses of.
"We are a low-sec pvp only pirate corp, you should join us." "We are a High-sec mining corp" and "join our EU tz null-sec renter corp"
I mean I get it that people enjoy the gameplay that they enjoy and would want to get more people involved in their area of space. thats fine, but when their recruiter completely ignores the list of things that i'm looking for, it doesn't build a lot of faith that they give even the slightest damn about what I find enjoyable and am looking for.
edit: note that is not actually my current looking for corp list. was used purely for example. |
Salvos Rhoska
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Posted - 2017.03.28 16:33:45 -
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Bjorn Tyrson wrote:I mean I get it that people enjoy the gameplay that they enjoy and would want to get more people involved in their area of space. thats fine, but when their recruiter completely ignores the list of things that i'm looking for, it doesn't build a lot of faith that they give even the slightest damn about what I find enjoyable and am looking for.
You have it ass backwards.
Its not about what X corp wants. Its about what you want.
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Nicola Romanoff
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Posted - 2017.03.28 17:30:38 -
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Bjorn Tyrson wrote:I've had that issue as well, one of the bigger annoyances for me is when I do put up a looking for corp advertisement, and inevitably half of the responses are from people who have clearly either not even read my post, or read it and ignored it.
"looking for a WH corp with a mix of pvp and pve activity, ideally one that has infrastructure for industry in place or would be willing to allow me to set up that infrastructure. USTZ"
Gets responses of.
"We are a low-sec pvp only pirate corp, you should join us." "We are a High-sec mining corp" and "join our EU tz null-sec renter corp"
I mean I get it that people enjoy the gameplay that they enjoy and would want to get more people involved in their area of space. thats fine, but when their recruiter completely ignores the list of things that i'm looking for, it doesn't build a lot of faith that they give even the slightest damn about what I find enjoyable and am looking for.
edit: note that is not actually my current looking for corp list. was used purely for example.
Most of the people that reply in the forums copy and paste a standard template, rarely do yu get a personal response, although saying that I did get a few on this last post I made |
Nicola Romanoff
Interstellar Nuclear Penguins Penguin Mafia.
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Posted - 2017.03.28 17:34:38 -
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Beast of Revelations wrote:This is why I hate to read the drivel of the elitist null-sec snobs who post their insults about people who stay in high-sec. They define high-sec'ers as a monolith of carebear miners or whatever else, 'risk averse,' 'WOW players' etc.
Some of us are stuck in high-sec because we kind of have no other choice (meaning, whatever choices there are aren't particularly good ones). I am not a miner, and I've never played WOW. I would like nothing more than to be in null-sec, or in a wormhole corp. But I have issues with joining a blob of people I don't know from Adam, who don't know me from Adam, and who have corporate objectives or politics which either aren't in line with mine, or even worse, are inscrutable or unknown or constantly changing.
I've tried to get my real-life friends to play Eve. They won't. I've tried meeting folks on the forums or in-game or whatever. That didn't work (I met some, they never want to do anything except what they are already doing, which is generally solo mining, solo exploration, or whatever). I've tried doing solo wormhole stuff. That 'worked' in the sense that I can scan down a wormhole, go in, poke around, run a few relic sites or whatever. But what if you don't want to be a small-time wormhole explorer your entire Eve existence, making $30 mil ISK per hour running exploration sites? I'd like to bring a battleship in and try running some of the combat sites, but that is pure suicide and begging for a gank. I once found a guy running wormholes on these forums. Messaged him and asked if he'd like to explore options for working together. He was paranoid that I was a spy or assassin or ganker or whatever. So you are back to trying to find some like-minded people to play the game with - in other words back to square one. For some, that's a difficult or impossible task.
i think what Trevor Dalech is a good idea, maybe not in WH but I may try that. People are sometimes paranoid becuase of the allowance of scamming and awoxing it is a little understandable, co-operation with a wary eye is sometimes needed. |
Keno Skir
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Posted - 2017.03.28 17:47:38 -
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lmmortalist wrote:Rather than trying to hunt for the right corp try hunting for the right people. Getting along socially is extremely important. Also they should be in a corp that isn't too restrictive on the activities you enjoy in eve. Sov 0.0 corps for instance can be problematic because of a bunch of rules, forced activites such as CTAs etc.
So in other words, take your time to get to know people and either try to form your own community around them or join theirs', as long as their corp isn't too restrictive.
^ This.
It's interesting to me how many people see EvE as a purely corporation / alliance based segregation system. In reality when you join a corp you get corp roles and a chatroom.. If you don't care about working as a mining director or hanger organiser it's really just a chatroom and that can be (and is) done without all the corp stuff.
I suggest joining peoples public chats, you will see many forum users have them as well as in people's bio's and even most corporations will have a public chat. Set yourself up a "social" chat window and just log into user made channels when you see one that sparks your interest. Once you find your friends in EvE you'll find corps are often more a tool for a job than something that singularly unifies you all.
One day i think you'll end up clicking with the right people and they will help you work out what banner you want to fly under
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Nicola Romanoff
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Posted - 2017.03.28 17:47:42 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:Bjorn Tyrson wrote:I mean I get it that people enjoy the gameplay that they enjoy and would want to get more people involved in their area of space. thats fine, but when their recruiter completely ignores the list of things that i'm looking for, it doesn't build a lot of faith that they give even the slightest damn about what I find enjoyable and am looking for. You have it ass backwards. Its not about what X corp wants. Its about what you want.
Salvos, I think yuo may have misread that I think that is what he is saying.
Anyway, back tot he answer I promised you.
OK. What I am looking for.
EUTZ, becuase I am in the UK so dont want to be a fill in orpart of a "up and coming EU presence" in a corp Good PI, as that is where I make most of my isk, or at least lwning POCO in high sec so I can set up factory planets upgraded ratting systems (if in null), or hitting l4 missions and escalations in high sec free from misogynistic, ignorant racists throwing slurs around... I actually feel embarrased when people spout off like this, swear and curse I am fine with, slurs etc I am not Dont want providence. I've lived there, some good guys in my previous corp there but... NRDS Dont want WH space becuase Ive lived there 3 times now and I just need a break from it. not a big long list of blues (for more PVP opportunities
This leaves either null sec or high sec
I see one of two potentials. I am not averse to a high sec corp that day trips for PVP and to WH and Null space, no weighing out 500isk m3 for JF services, as long as they had infrastructure (citadels etc) and POCOs that they owned so I can set up factory planets (for ISK making)
or Null sec, hopefully not too far from high sec, (a border system would be fantastic in an ideal world), a corp that had a reasonably priced, regular JF service, POCOs (again), doctrine ships on contract at a reasonable and fair markup. a place where you and one other could go off for a roam or a bunch of you could
I think thats most of it
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