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Vigilant
Vigilant's Vigilante's
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Posted - 2017.04.08 23:44:04 -
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Akrasjel Lanate wrote:Vigilant wrote:Akrasjel Lanate wrote:Vigilant wrote:The DEV's stated at EVE Vegas 2016 that all these ships would be available to "all" pilots even if you did not attend. So CCP, how are you going to make this so ???
(And the market is not the answer) Nope They are to be promotional ships... availability of them won't be like normal ships One, you can't read Two, you can't read Three, it was announced at EVE Vegas 2016 that they will be available by other means. They know everyone can not make it to these events. One, link to the moment when they say it. Two, Fanfest 2017 has more actual info about changes coming.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FARkDDbSRFs&list=PLQvKSs1k6DLPjz1qmmfNMrMPf91STJDa-&index=21
16:17 give or take a few seconds :P |
Imiarr Timshae
Funny Men In Funny Hats
367
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Posted - 2017.04.09 00:48:21 -
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1. Lack of drones is dissapointing but not surprising. Kills many potential uses without being able to run even a flight of lights. If you're like me and you love drones as a primary weapon system, bad luck. These ships are not for you.
2. Security status bonuses scale, but stop at 5.0 sec status. So no love for those of us who have deliberately put effort into reaching numbers above these amounts. Where's the logic there? Just like missioners reaching 10.00 faction standing getting nothing, except instead of a lack of reward, now you are actively disregarding the playstyle of a subset of people which you are designing this ship bonus specifically for. "Get more bonuses for sec status, except if you get really high amounts. We don't care about you." Weird as hell.
3. At least they look pretty.
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Akrasjel Lanate
Lanate Industries
1988
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Posted - 2017.04.09 07:23:01 -
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Vigilant wrote:Akrasjel Lanate wrote:Vigilant wrote:Akrasjel Lanate wrote:Vigilant wrote:The DEV's stated at EVE Vegas 2016 that all these ships would be available to "all" pilots even if you did not attend. So CCP, how are you going to make this so ???
(And the market is not the answer) Nope They are to be promotional ships... availability of them won't be like normal ships One, you can't read Two, you can't read Three, it was announced at EVE Vegas 2016 that they will be available by other means. They know everyone can not make it to these events. One, link to the moment when they say it. Two, Fanfest 2017 has more actual info about changes coming. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FARkDDbSRFs&list=PLQvKSs1k6DLPjz1qmmfNMrMPf91STJDa-&index=21 16:17 give or take a few seconds :P
Yes this outdated info from last Vegas meetup says that players "will have a possibility" of getting those.
Akrasjel Lanate
CEO of Lanate Industries
Citizen of Solitude
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Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
3933
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Posted - 2017.04.09 11:19:38 -
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Imiarr Timshae wrote:1. Lack of drones is dissapointing but not surprising. Kills many potential uses without being able to run even a flight of lights. If you're like me and you love drones as a primary weapon system, bad luck. These ships are not for you.
2. Security status bonuses scale, but stop at 5.0 sec status. So no love for those of us who have deliberately put effort into reaching numbers above these amounts. Where's the logic there? Just like missioners reaching 10.00 faction standing getting nothing, except instead of a lack of reward, now you are actively disregarding the playstyle of a subset of people which you are designing this ship bonus specifically for. "Get more bonuses for sec status, except if you get really high amounts. We don't care about you." Weird as hell.
3. At least they look pretty. The logic in 2 is because 10.0 sec status is a legacy item, and not available in normal circumstances to newer players. So 'Get more bonuses if you were grandfathered into the new sec status system, or if you happen to be in the fairly unique position to still force it through today through rounding errors around officer rats' is not a good thing for them to be doing. 5.0 is the nominal maximum you can get to these days. |
Cade Windstalker
1255
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Posted - 2017.04.09 23:46:25 -
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Arcturus Ursidae wrote:You need to look at the language that is being used. It states promotions which almost which implies plex sales or subscription offers.
I don't actually have a problem with this, CCP often gives away skins and such like during promotions or offers.
Could mean PLEX sales, could mean an "OMG CONCORD got ****ed again" in-game event where everyone with more than 2 billion space-points gets one. |
Jengo Fire
The Scope Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2017.04.10 00:20:12 -
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"To avoid p2w"
Yet I need to spend RL money to get Shiney Collectors faction ships with insane stats....
Right so if I don't spend RL money I'm not allowed to have it without spending near AT prize ship prices.
Seems legit. |
Juvenius Drakonius
35
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Posted - 2017.04.10 00:34:22 -
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would be great if you can go in fleets of concord to kill pirates...an NPC FC
There is no shame in saying you don't know something, and there is no glory in keeping knolege to yourself.
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Ci'Fera
Shadowed Command The Explicit Alliance
43
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Posted - 2017.04.10 01:10:33 -
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Just for the sake of it. http://i.imgur.com/njVAIBW.png While not a serious fit it can put out decent damage. |
Frostys Virpio
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
3295
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Posted - 2017.04.10 15:18:20 -
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Mina Sebiestar wrote:They look nice i would give 7.5% Minmatar dmg bonus to medium and large hulls due to anemic dps numbers they will put out compared to others and without drones it will be obvious.
Argument that minmatar hulls are basically oversized class bellow their current wont work stats are same for all races they will just punch lower without anything to mask that.
There is absolutely nothing forcing you to fit projectile weapons on this. If you think the bonus to projectile is not enough, go with another weapon system. |
Murkar Omaristos
The Alabaster Albatross Sev3rance
259
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Posted - 2017.04.11 00:27:00 -
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Any indication of what the availability of these will be like for those who did not attend fanfest or eve vegas? With those future events etc.?
Especially the faction black ops. IMO that should have been the nestor's role long ago - but still, I really hope these will be available for everyone at some level and not just become a 20bil station queen. |
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Chuck Sanussi
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
14
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Posted - 2017.04.11 13:48:49 -
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these sec related bonuses are BS until you give sec related bonuses to ALL pirate ships.
Nerfing lowsec much? |
Ci'Fera
Shadowed Command The Explicit Alliance
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Posted - 2017.04.11 23:12:04 -
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Chuck Sanussi wrote:these sec related bonuses are BS until you give sec related bonuses to ALL pirate ships.
Nerfing lowsec much?
Its security status of the player, not the system. If you watched the fanfest vids they discussed the possibility of pirate hulls doing similar bonuses |
Murkar Omaristos
The Alabaster Albatross Sev3rance
263
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Posted - 2017.04.12 01:32:11 -
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Chuck Sanussi wrote:these sec related bonuses are BS until you give sec related bonuses to ALL pirate ships.
Nerfing lowsec much?
Looks like someone has an opinion before taking the time to understand the subject matter. |
Ci'Fera
Shadowed Command The Explicit Alliance
44
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Posted - 2017.04.12 02:31:07 -
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Murkar Omaristos wrote:Chuck Sanussi wrote:these sec related bonuses are BS until you give sec related bonuses to ALL pirate ships.
Nerfing lowsec much? Looks like someone has an opinion before taking the time to understand the subject matter.
Its the best type of opinion! |
Chuck Sanussi
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
14
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Posted - 2017.04.12 06:59:24 -
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Ci'Fera wrote:Chuck Sanussi wrote:these sec related bonuses are BS until you give sec related bonuses to ALL pirate ships.
Nerfing lowsec much? Its security status of the player, not the system. If you watched the fanfest vids they discussed the possibility of pirate hulls doing similar bonuses
NO SHEET, Sherlock.
Well yes, this is the definition of opinion.
Yes, I have heard about the possibility of pirate hulls having something similar.
Yet, this is not posted.
Therefore I am publishing my opinion - These bonuses for concord ships are BS until sec related bonuses are given to all pirate ships.
Clear enough now? Not like I care, sometimes people in EVE are like babies. ;) |
Ci'Fera
Shadowed Command The Explicit Alliance
44
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Posted - 2017.04.12 08:06:09 -
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Chuck Sanussi wrote:Ci'Fera wrote:Chuck Sanussi wrote:these sec related bonuses are BS until you give sec related bonuses to ALL pirate ships.
Nerfing lowsec much? Its security status of the player, not the system. If you watched the fanfest vids they discussed the possibility of pirate hulls doing similar bonuses NO SHEET, Sherlock. Well yes, this is the definition of opinion. Yes, I have heard about the possibility of pirate hulls having something similar. Yet, this is not posted. Therefore I am publishing my opinion - These bonuses for concord ships are BS until sec related bonuses are given to all pirate ships. Clear enough now? Not like I care, sometimes people in EVE are like babies. ;)
If you have to come back and specify that you knew all this yet you came here to gripe and reinforce your needless thoughts on the matter knowing full well that this is a 'test' for CCP to offer such bonuses later. Then you really serve no point in the discussion. Mr Watson... |
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CCP Fozzie
C C P C C P Alliance
14891
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Posted - 2017.04.12 10:47:40 -
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Few small tweaks:
Slightly increased mass for the Pacifier and Enforcer Slightly improved inertia modifier for the Pacifier All the projectile damage bonuses swapped to RoF
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Ci'Fera
Shadowed Command The Explicit Alliance
44
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Posted - 2017.04.12 14:25:47 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote:Few small tweaks:
Slightly increased mass for the Pacifier and Enforcer Slightly improved inertia modifier for the Pacifier All the projectile damage bonuses swapped to RoF
Any specific reason for ROF over alpha? |
Mina Sebiestar
Minmatar Inner Space Conglomerate
1173
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Posted - 2017.04.12 15:43:25 -
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Ci'Fera wrote:CCP Fozzie wrote:Few small tweaks:
Slightly increased mass for the Pacifier and Enforcer Slightly improved inertia modifier for the Pacifier All the projectile damage bonuses swapped to RoF Any specific reason for ROF over alpha?
A tad more dps is my guess.
You choke behind a smile a fake behind the fear
Because >>I is too hard
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Ci'Fera
Shadowed Command The Explicit Alliance
44
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Posted - 2017.04.12 21:42:19 -
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Mina Sebiestar wrote:Ci'Fera wrote:CCP Fozzie wrote:Few small tweaks:
Slightly increased mass for the Pacifier and Enforcer Slightly improved inertia modifier for the Pacifier All the projectile damage bonuses swapped to RoF Any specific reason for ROF over alpha? A tad more dps is my guess.
I would think 5% damage would put out the same as 5%rate of fire? |
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Stridsflygplan
Yjellio The Volition Cult
91
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Posted - 2017.04.13 01:40:11 -
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Nice Moa fit you have there. |
Stridsflygplan
Yjellio The Volition Cult
91
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Posted - 2017.04.13 01:44:31 -
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Ci'Fera wrote:Mina Sebiestar wrote:Ci'Fera wrote:CCP Fozzie wrote:Few small tweaks:
Slightly increased mass for the Pacifier and Enforcer Slightly improved inertia modifier for the Pacifier All the projectile damage bonuses swapped to RoF Any specific reason for ROF over alpha? A tad more dps is my guess. I would think 5% damage would put out the same as 5%rate of fire?
25% RoF = 1 / 0.75 = 1.33 = 33% damage bonus 25% RoF vs 25% Damage = 1.33 / 1.25 = 1.064 = 6.4% more damage |
Ci'Fera
Shadowed Command The Explicit Alliance
44
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Posted - 2017.04.13 04:35:10 -
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Stridsflygplan wrote:Ci'Fera wrote:Mina Sebiestar wrote:Ci'Fera wrote:CCP Fozzie wrote:Few small tweaks:
Slightly increased mass for the Pacifier and Enforcer Slightly improved inertia modifier for the Pacifier All the projectile damage bonuses swapped to RoF Any specific reason for ROF over alpha? A tad more dps is my guess. I would think 5% damage would put out the same as 5%rate of fire? 25% RoF = 1 / 0.75 = 1.33 = 33% damage bonus 25% RoF vs 25% Damage = 1.33 / 1.25 = 1.064 = 6.4% more damage
Thats actually good to know! and yes, good call on the Moa fit, What I based it on. :) |
Hairpins Blueprint
The Northerners Northern Coalition.
201
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Posted - 2017.04.13 10:57:43 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote:Reserved
Muh Mistery Code? Hello we are still here :< |
Capqu
ElitistOps Pandemic Legion
1312
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Posted - 2017.04.13 14:56:37 -
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BOMB LAUNCHER PLEASE GOD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5tVbVu9Mkg
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Helene Fidard
CTRL-Q
53
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Posted - 2017.04.13 19:36:32 -
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I guess the real joke here is that the compensation for the overdue Mordus' nerf is T2 ultragimmick Mordus ships.
Oh well.
Hey! I don't know about you
but I'm joining CTRL-Q
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Ci'Fera
Shadowed Command The Explicit Alliance
44
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Posted - 2017.04.13 20:20:14 -
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Capqu wrote:BOMB LAUNCHER PLEASE GOD
I would think for the frigate it would be cool if it had a bonus to void bombs, Make it a little more unique than the other bombers. |
Capqu
ElitistOps Pandemic Legion
1314
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Posted - 2017.04.15 11:27:30 -
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Ci'Fera wrote:Capqu wrote:BOMB LAUNCHER PLEASE GOD I would think for the frigate it would be cool if it had a bonus to void bombs, Make it a little more unique than the other bombers.
NO
JUST THE LAUNCHER
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5tVbVu9Mkg
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Ci'Fera
Shadowed Command The Explicit Alliance
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Posted - 2017.04.15 20:23:11 -
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Capqu wrote:Ci'Fera wrote:Capqu wrote:BOMB LAUNCHER PLEASE GOD I would think for the frigate it would be cool if it had a bonus to void bombs, Make it a little more unique than the other bombers. NO JUST THE LAUNCHER Momma must have not taught you indoor voices. |
Jimy F
Aliastra Gallente Federation
4
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Posted - 2017.04.18 12:35:30 -
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its look like they decide to throw logic of balance out of window, it's the shame they sems to throw logic out the window one to many times
BS have the same dps that other Black Ops and have also ewar bonus without damage reduction (like Widow), and have 2 more slots than any other Black Ops or T2 or Faction BS, and have maruder tank bonus
and bonus depending on security status? seriusly?
and it is very hard pay to win
please get some other devs make this ships
i very don't like what happen here |
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