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MrValera
Unicorn Hunters Of The Apocalypse
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Posted - 2017.04.24 11:39:35 -
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Hello,
With reference to my previous post (https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6903562#post6903562), I have been thinking about what new ships we could have.
So far, we have frigates, and their bigger brothers destroyers.
Same with cruisers and battlecruisers.
So, is there a reason for battle(battleships) not to exist ? Lets call them superBattleships for now.
It would be something like an Orca, but designed for fighting.
Ship purpose: These ships, (just as the other counterparts) will have better tanking capabilities. While holding same, or slightly better dps. Perhaps even give them ability to fit bastion modules or capital sized tank, for increased signature radius and worse mobility.
The main idea is to give the ship ability to survive small to mid scale engagemts, while not making it too OverPowerfull (OP) and mitigate the advantages when used en masse.
So, for solo pilots like me, it will give more options to fight small to mid sized gangs. And on the other hand, using thousand of superBattleships will give you hardly an advantage over thousand of plain battleships.
Why this is important: Current eve realities have changed. Regardless what people are saying about EvE, it has been steadily growing over the last few years. More people playing - means the fleets are getting bigger and bigger.
Ten years ago a 2-3 ship gang was considered as a small, 5-10 was a medium, and 10+ was a large fleet. Nowadays, anything below 10 ships is considered as a small fleet.
Battleships EHP doesnt suffice anymore. We need some tougher ship for this kind of situations.And superBattleships is the answer!
And really no need in saying this, but the more solo pilots we have, the more small gangs will be roaming around to fight them. The more small scale gangs will be around, the more bigger fleets will look forward to fight them. The more content, the more interesting EvE will become.
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Thomas Lot
Astrocomical Warped Intentions
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Posted - 2017.04.24 11:42:00 -
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They're called Marauders. |
Gimme Sake
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2017.04.24 11:43:50 -
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They're called marauders and are already present in the game.
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Lothros Andastar
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2017.04.24 11:57:45 -
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They're called Marauders.
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Jenn aSide
Absolute Massive Destruction Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2017.04.24 12:17:54 -
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SuperBattleship, thy name is (already) Marauder! |
Eternus8lux8lucis
Primus Inc. LEGIO ASTARTES ARCANUM
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Posted - 2017.04.24 12:20:42 -
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Yes Marauders. *cough*
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Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
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Posted - 2017.04.24 12:29:55 -
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Or they might be called Dreadnoughts.
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Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
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Posted - 2017.04.24 12:44:52 -
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If only Caldari Dread could use some capital sized railguns...
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baltec1
Bat Country Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2017.04.24 12:50:45 -
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Kronos does this job, it's a marauder. |
Krin Dessat
Far Runner
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Posted - 2017.04.24 12:53:45 -
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Since no one mentioned this before, I will point out that Marauders might fit the description, and are already in the game |
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Salvos Rhoska
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Posted - 2017.04.24 13:26:42 -
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BCs should be next for more hulls.
Especially considering there are no faction BCs except Gnosis.
Also: Maurauders.
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Tanuki Kittybeta
Ripperoni in Pepperoni Trigger Warnings
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Posted - 2017.04.24 14:00:50 -
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theyre called marauders |
Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
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Posted - 2017.04.24 14:02:11 -
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This sounds familiar. Sounds like something I fly.
"Tomahawks?"
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"Trouble is, those things cost like a million and a half each."
"----, you pay me half that and I'll hump in some c4 and blow the ---- out of it my own damn self."
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Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
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Posted - 2017.04.24 16:26:47 -
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Frigs are Tech I. Their bigger brothers, Destroyers, are also T1. Both use the sale size weapons. Cruisers are T1, as are their big brother, battle cruisers. Both use the same size weapons.
Battleships are T1. Marauders are not. Conclusion: Marauders are not the big brothers of battleships.
Dreadnoughts do not use the same size weapons as battleships. Conclusion: Dreadnoughts are not the big brother of battleships.
A proper big brother of the battle ship would use the same size weapons as a battleship and be T1.
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
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Posted - 2017.04.24 17:00:09 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:BCs should be next for more hulls.
Especially considering there are no faction BCs except Gnosis.
Also: Maurauders.
I haz drake?
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Thomas Lot
Astrocomical Warped Intentions
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Posted - 2017.04.24 19:35:22 -
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Steve Ronuken wrote:Or they might be called Dreadnoughts.
I would love to see a roaming Dreadnaught gang come through various pockets of Provi or try making the Catch loop. |
Voddick
AFK
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Posted - 2017.04.24 21:37:14 -
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You know Dreads can fit guns specifically for killing sub caps right? It is LITERALLY exactly what you asked for. |
Keno Skir
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Posted - 2017.04.24 21:45:01 -
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Have you looked into Merauders? I'm staggered you've had this much attention so far and nobody bothered to suggest them
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Shallanna Yassavi
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2017.04.24 23:01:28 -
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Hisec version: Marauders, except they're overshadowed by certain faction battleships.
Everywhere else version: Dreadnought with high-angle weapons.
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Tuttomenui II
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2017.04.24 23:16:40 -
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Naga, Talos, Oracle and Tornado can technically fit what you are looking for. |
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Hal Morsh
Minmatar Confederate
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Posted - 2017.04.24 23:58:32 -
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https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/2zqcfi/t3_battleships/
There ya go. Have fun.
Shallanna Yassavi wrote: Dreadnought with high-angle weapons.
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Beast of Revelations
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2017.04.25 06:34:45 -
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I'm not opposed to the idea in theory. But it would be nice if they fixed current battleship issues with respect to tank, firepower, etc. before we ask for super-battleships. Many people don't even fly battleships because they consider cruisers to be better.
Also, I wouldn't want capships to be stepped-on. |
Hello Meow Kitty
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
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Posted - 2017.04.26 04:14:23 -
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Now if they introduced a frigate ship where a small gang of 10 dudes (no alts) gangbang a Titan and take it down I'll be 100 percent on board. |
joshua tee
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2017.04.26 06:17:04 -
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joshua tee
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2017.04.26 06:30:44 -
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Hello Meow Kitty wrote:Now if they introduced a frigate ship where a small gang of 10 dudes (no alts) gangbang a Titan and take it down I'll be 100 percent on board.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Igooxb4D1c
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joshua tee
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2017.04.26 06:37:28 -
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did he call him jack? |
joshua tee
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2017.04.26 06:48:48 -
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Agondray
Avenger Mercenaries VOID Intergalactic Forces
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Posted - 2017.04.26 07:33:12 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:BCs should be next for more hulls.
Especially considering there are no faction BCs except Gnosis.
Also: Maurauders. You have navy faction bcs and some time ago they had a tier added, dd has had 2 ships added, bs had one added ages ago. Cruisers and frigate hasn't had anything minus when they added mordu
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joshua tee
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2017.04.26 07:44:14 -
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Salvos Rhoska
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Posted - 2017.04.26 07:54:52 -
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Agondray wrote:Salvos Rhoska wrote:BCs should be next for more hulls.
Especially considering there are no faction BCs except Gnosis.
Also: Maurauders. You have navy faction bcs and some time ago they had a tier added, dd has had 2 ships added, bs had one added ages ago. Cruisers and frigate hasn't had anything minus when they added mordu
I didnt mean "navy" ships when I said faction. Furthermore there are 2 navy BS options per empire, whereas only 1 BC option per empire.
When I said faction, I meant Pirates/SoE, each of which offers a BS hull, but no BC option.
BS: 12 T1 + 8 Navy + 8 T2 + 7 Faction = 35 hulls
BC: 12 T1 + 4 Navy + 8 T2 + Gnosis = 25 hulls
The faction BS are especially noteable.
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