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Slick Executioner
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2017.04.25 03:38:32 -
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I am LOVING this game, although three days in I realize I barely u der stand it all.
With that said, what is the overall status of the game? Are more people playing now than ever before (with the f2p option now)?
Are there a ton of new players joining?
Just curious.
Thanks! |
Soel Reit
Dambusters 617 Sq
866
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Posted - 2017.04.25 03:39:19 -
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*popcorn* |
Jenn aSide
Absolute Massive Destruction Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2017.04.25 03:43:01 -
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It's dying, of course.
Related, In 3 months and 6 days we will have our 14th Annual EVE is DYING!!!! day. woot.
For my dying day gift, I'd like a pony. A dead one, because it's dying day of curse. |
Slick Executioner
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2017.04.25 03:46:51 -
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What's wrong with asking this question? I didn't say it was dying...I was asking.
Popcorn...dork. |
Cybertherion
Pneumatic Cabal
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Posted - 2017.04.25 03:52:12 -
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OP the subject of EvE's health brings out the - ehm - "bratwurst" out of peeps on these boards. Old mate's popcorn reference is just because it's somewhat amusing to observe.
Nothing wrong with asking the question.
Blood is freedom stained.
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Soel Reit
Dambusters 617 Sq
866
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Posted - 2017.04.25 03:52:49 -
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ahahahahahhaha don't take it personally i'm just joking ahhahahaha
you genuinely just asked a question that will trigger the apocalipse you'll see by yourself how this thread will evolve! SoonGäó
one side will say: eve is dying SoonGäó another side: no! we have more players than before f2p!
then people will start arguing, pulling numbers from any part you can think of. at that point the genius arrives and proclaim that eve is already dead.
that is the signal to unleash hell on the thread! ISDs will come running from all the parts and blood will flow
finally OP will edit his question into "sorry, wrong question" and thread will be locked!
love you OP, and your genuine curiosity <3 GÖÑ |
Cybertherion
Pneumatic Cabal
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Posted - 2017.04.25 03:57:58 -
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Bring on the Wrecking MachineGäó.
Blood is freedom stained.
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Slick Executioner
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2017.04.25 04:06:47 -
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Oops, haha like you said I had no idea it would start that! It was a genuine question. Can you tell I'm new? Haha
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Nasar Vyron
S0utherN Comfort Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2017.04.25 04:23:09 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:It's dying, of course. Related, In 3 months and 6 days we will have our 14th Annual EVE is DYING!!!! day. woot. For my dying day gift, I'd like a pony. A dead one, because it's dying day of curse.
No, I will give you a starving pony on the brink of death in a sealed crate. It's dying day, not dead day. I'll let you decide if it's really dead or not. |
Lothros Andastar
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
253
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Posted - 2017.04.25 05:42:19 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:It's dying, of course. Related, In 3 months and 6 days we will have our 14th Annual EVE is DYING!!!! day. woot. For my dying day gift, I'd like a pony. A dead one, because it's dying day of curse. Eve is indeed dying |
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Linus Gorp
Ministry of Propaganda and Morale Black Marker
1309
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Posted - 2017.04.25 06:48:38 -
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Obligatory
When you don't know the difference between there, their, and they're, you come across as being so uneducated that your viewpoint can be safely dismissed. The literate is unlikely to learn much from the illiterate.
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Indahmawar Fazmarai
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Posted - 2017.04.25 06:55:16 -
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Slick Executioner wrote:I am LOVING this game, although three days in I realize I barely u der stand it all.
With that said, what is the overall status of the game? Are more people playing now than ever before (with the f2p option now)?
Are there a ton of new players joining?
Just curious.
Thanks!
Overall status is unknown as CCP doesn't talks about it. Apparently there's more people playing it, but certainly not more than in the past. There was an outburst of new characters and server population after F2P, and both have receded. New character creation is about 15% higher than before F2P and peak server population is below last year's in the same dates. This could be caused because people on average stay logged in for shorter time, which would drive concurrency down even fi the overall population count (unique logins) was higher.
We could say that EVE is doing well for its age, but you can't be a videogame 14 years old and be 100% healthy.
Personally my hunch based on the current status is that EVE will last 3 or 4 years more.
Note: EVE will never die completely, rather it might become a undead cult game like Ultima Online. |
Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
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Posted - 2017.04.25 06:56:19 -
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1. These kind of threads always are trolls best environment here. That is why "popcorn" is a first reply. 2. Game is doing fine for what it is. 3. Game is dying. Of course it is.
Choose 2 or 3 and start trolling until ISD comes in and closes it, so people can have a break.
Every part of a game helps to tell a story =ƒôò
Where is Angry CONCORD guy when you need him
Osprey =ƒÜÇ
GëíGïüGëí GÖÑ
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Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
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Posted - 2017.04.25 08:14:52 -
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Slick Executioner wrote:Oops, haha like you said I had no idea it would start that! It was a genuine question. Can you tell I'm new? Haha
If you look here you can get a trace of the maximum number of concurrent users everyday since the game went live:
http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility (click on 'All' in the menu at the top).
That will give you an idea of overall trend of growth/otherwise of the game, however it isn't a direct mapping of subscriptions or the number of people playing the game.
For example, at various times the game had no skill queue, a 24 hour skill queue, now a near unlimited skill queue. So over the life of the game, there have been different reasons for players to login or not (not only skill queue related. That's just one example).
So, in addition this presentation from CCP Quant at Fanfest in 2014 is worth watching (will go straight to the relevant part):
https://youtu.be/h-jfvjMoe9Y?t=195
So from that, in 2014:
PCU: 42,000 users Unique users per day: 175,000 Unique users per month: 420,000
As players we don't have exact numbers of how many subscribers there are.
The last reasonable number was from the creation of the EVE Monument, which has approximately 480,000 character names on it (each name representing 1 subscribed account on 31 March 2014, or thereabouts on the date).
Since then, there have been various estimates of decline to as low as low as 250,000 to about 400,000, so the number is likely to be somewhere in there.
Most recently, due to the skill injectors, CCP recorded a 30% increase in revenue last year, to the highest single year revenue in EVE history ($86,135,976).
My guess, there is somewhere around 300,000 - 320,000 subscribers and the game is overall pretty healthy. Certainly not at any risk of dying soon. |
roberts dragon
Beak Enterprises TRUE VINE
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Posted - 2017.04.25 11:46:15 -
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could say the players are dead and the game is alive . |
Vokan Narkar
New Eden Traders Aliance
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Posted - 2017.04.25 12:51:07 -
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roberts dragon wrote:could say the players are dead and the game is alive . some players are undead too |
Aiwha
Infinite Point Test Alliance Please Ignore
1251
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Posted - 2017.04.25 13:02:25 -
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Vokan Narkar wrote:roberts dragon wrote:could say the players are dead and the game is alive . some players are undead too
Sansha playable race when CCP?
Sanity is fun leaving the body.
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Vouid
Tarnak inc. ALAYS Reloaded
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Posted - 2017.04.25 13:11:33 -
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Eve has around 15-40k players at all times.
now check steam charts and see Eve would actually be around top 20 at all times and at top 10 at peak hours.
Surely it will not die, but it won't be around for ever. |
mkint
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Posted - 2017.04.25 13:27:36 -
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Scipio's information is the most interesting so far. Keep in mind that CCP's "record profits" likely come from a combination of subs, MT, and their VR tech. It's not known what the distribution is, but they keep hyping their VR tech that has nothing to do with EVE.
It's probably also useful to keep in mind that logins and subs and revenue aren't the only measures of health. The MER (monthly economic reports) which can be found through the dev posts button above give information about the activity in the game. It includes things like production vs destruction, isk faucets vs sinks, value of different market segments. I'm still not personally sure what the information in there says about the health of the game, though I do think it's dangerous to assume what's healthy for RL economies is healthy for the game. But I haven't put enough brainpower behind the significance of all the metrics, so I don't have a strong opinion on what they imply.
Maxim 6. If violence wasnGÇÖt your last resort, you failed to resort to enough of it.
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Joey Bags
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2017.04.25 13:37:36 -
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Slick Executioner welcome to EvE and more specifically welcome to the forums! Everyone is right that CCP doesn't release absolute figures however since I started playing (2008) I've witnessed several surges in popularity with big increases in active players online. I've witnessed several drops in population too. It fluctuates but after the Chinese isk farmer not purge I've noticed a general uptick in the amount of players online at any one moment over the years. I would say it's healthy but it's up to CCP to keep innovating and reinventing (and they do). Once you see a lack of effort in those areas, that's when EvE is dying for real.
You can pick your friends and you can pick your nose but you can't pick your friends nose.
Unless you podded them...and collected their corpse.
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Yebo Lakatosh
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2017.04.25 13:47:29 -
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I have relevant and very important information that is my personal opinion. It's backed by very extensive thinking I regularly do.
EvE is really cool, and it is for everyone. Sadly not everyone is for EvE. And when they try it and fail to adapt, they go out with a loud bang.. sometimes. That may look unhealthy to the onlookers, but the game will last. The addicts will sustain it. And those who get deep enough get totally addicted.
Elite F1 pilot since YC119, incarnate of honor, integrity and tidi.
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TigerXtrm
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
1932
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Posted - 2017.04.25 17:16:25 -
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Slick Executioner wrote:I am LOVING this game, although three days in I realize I barely u der stand it all.
With that said, what is the overall status of the game? Are more people playing now than ever before (with the f2p option now)?
Are there a ton of new players joining?
Just curious.
Thanks!
EVE has been dying for exactly 5072 days and will continue to die well into the future.
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Lulu Lunette
Savage Moon Society
1555
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Posted - 2017.04.25 17:18:45 -
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I've only been playing a little over two years and have witnessed Eve having regular peaks and valleys. Cyclical.
@lunettelulu7
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Vic Jefferson
Brand Newbros Test Alliance Please Ignore
1238
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Posted - 2017.04.25 17:42:04 -
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It's a great time to be a new player if you join a major sov-bloc.The current sov system essentially turns new players into resources for the sov-blocs - the blocs need miners and ratters, and new players need easy access to resources and a good deal of guidance - it works out to being slightly mutually beneficial in the end probably.
It's a horrible time to join as a new player if you do not want to play sov-online. There really aren't that many growing entities or even the potential to grow as a non-sov entity right now. Low and NPC nullsec are basically ignored, and those are the places that effectively function as 'nurseries' for new groups of players looking to play the game as a non-sov entity. Generally I feel most gaming groups these days are smaller (on the order of 10-15), and these groups are basically forced by existing mechanics to either adopt a sov-alliance, or resign themselves to an area of space which isn't really curated or looked after.
They have done a great job on updating Sov-Online. It should, however, be possible to join and play your EvE Online.
Vote Vic Jefferson for CSM X.....XI.....XII?
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
8352
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Posted - 2017.04.25 18:40:44 -
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The game is the best it has ever been, warts and all. The devs and design team are doing a good job.
A kind of "great malaise" hit around late 2014 and the game is still lingering under it. The game is not going to die, but it's showing age.
And it has more to do with competition and options than anything else. One of the big draws for online gaming is customization of character and/or vehicles or equipment. Eve has always suffered from offering these beloved options while at the same time creating a need to grind for it. There was once a big blowup over expensive pants and monocles for example.
But since around 2010-2012 even FPS games have been offering customization options that players like - and even with skill sets too, let alone being able to put say a punisher skull on your plane/ship/tank/etc.
And without the grind and permaloss too.
We can make ourselves feel good and go all "hurr durr quick gratification killing civilization we're doomed buy a water filter" mode in the light of players showing they don't want to "invest" in Eve. But in reality, it's all games and people want to play a game. The weaponization of boredom in Eve is what came to a head in 2014 and with the other options out there in the market, people would just rather have fun. It's their game time they get to choose.
So the health of the game is static, and it's surviving. The MMO concept is becoming a dinosaur but the "product" of Eve is strong and has a fan base. If anything happens to the game it won't be around the proverbial "turning off the lights".
Bring back DEEEEP Space!
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Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation
2682
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Posted - 2017.04.25 18:54:36 -
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Eve is already dead. It has then been found to be undead and lives by the rule "what is dead can never die"!
Serious answer Eve really is likely to stay around for the foreseeable future. Short of Eve being sold (it is on the market if I understand things) CCP will keep the lights on in the Eve verse. I think Eve is very much too close to the core of the true spirit of Iceland and as long as its in the hands of Vikings you will continue to be able to shoot strangers in space in the face.
Eve will never be much bigger but it really doesn't need to be. |
Sir BloodArgon Aulmais
Fortis Fortuna Adiuvatt Dot Dot Dot
101
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Posted - 2017.04.25 18:55:36 -
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The health is 1% structure. Forever dying, but forever not dying |
Shiloh Templeton
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
623
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Posted - 2017.04.26 04:02:26 -
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Slick Executioner wrote:I am LOVING this game, although three days in I realize I barely u der stand it all.
With that said, what is the overall status of the game? Are more people playing now than ever before (with the f2p option now)?
Are there a ton of new players joining?
Just curious.
Thanks! The game itself is arguably the best it's ever been. Although it might be having a bit of an identity crises as it goes from a game that prided itself on it's hard core nature and cliff of learning, to a more generally approachable game. The MMO aspect of the game is not at it's peak. Free to Play sparked a lot of sizzle, but it's proven hard to maintain. The bitter vets hang around with the hopes that CCP will introduce new features that spark their enthusiasm again.
But none of that matters for the type of new players that find Eve appealing. Which it sounds like you are.
Join a corp if you want to. But I can personally attest to the fact that it isn't a necessity to enjoy the game.
Welcome to Eve.
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Hello Meow Kitty
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
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Posted - 2017.04.26 04:08:17 -
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This game interests a small portion of the gaming community man. When activities take hours to do along with decade worth of training queue for ships and modules, don't look for the masses to be hooked. |
joshua tee
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2017.04.26 04:29:19 -
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doesnt seem to be good -- a day or two impressons |
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