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Morgana Tsukiyo
Samsara Dynamics
126
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Posted - 2017.04.30 23:40:57 -
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Tsao Aubbes wrote: I aaaaam.. and you don't need to call me "my dear", you know..
Acknowledged, Ms. Aubbes.
Halcyon Ember wrote: I believe I've had a tea like that, I'm curious whether you drink the same brand
Oh, have you been in Saisio? From what i understood of your texts you operated in Gallente and Minmatar territories. |
Halcyon Ember
Repracor Industries
190
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Posted - 2017.04.30 23:45:52 -
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Halcyon Ember wrote: I believe I've had a tea like that, I'm curious whether you drink the same brand
Oh, have you been in Saisio? From what i understood of your texts you operated in Gallente and Minmatar territories.[/quote]
Well it would be dreary of me to list every location I find myself in, would it not? |
Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
3633
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Posted - 2017.04.30 23:54:57 -
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Morgana Tsukiyo wrote:Your adorable stuttering was like a beautiful flower amidst a grass field, and now it got plucked. What a shame.
Ms. Aubbes has spoken quite well for herself, and courteously. But I'm going to get out the knives for you, Morgana Tsukiyo.
For those of us who face an issue in our daily lives-- stuttering, pauses-- being singled out because of it is not a comfortable thing.
It's not a friendly thing, either.
When you you say her stutter is, itself, "adorable," are you admiring her ideas? Her mind? You're not. You're "admiring" a problem that makes it hard for us to communicate effectively. A keen mind is threatening, but one that flounders when trying to communicate is not. It's cute. It's harmless. When you point to that quality, you're pointing up a frailty, for your own amusement and others'. It's mockery, cloaked as admiration.
It's cruel.
This might be arguable if you just found her troubles when speaking in person delightful, but the fact that you'd say she shouldn't even use of a medium where she can freely say exactly what she thinks, clearly and well, with all the eloquence she can muster, and be admired for it, means that it's not the mannerism you find attractive; it's the incapacity.
You like her helpless, and want her to stay that way. That you'd cloak that in terms of "embracing her whole self," accepting a limitation on her ability to communicate as a part who she is instead of using a method to make herself truly and fully heard, is a manipulative twist so awful that you've basically guaranteed I will trust nothing you have to say about anything, ever.
Ms. Aubbes owes me nothing. And after such a move I rather think you've nullified any she might have owed to you, as well. |
Morgana Tsukiyo
Samsara Dynamics
126
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Posted - 2017.05.01 00:28:29 -
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Aria Jenneth wrote:Morgana Tsukiyo wrote:Your adorable stuttering was like a beautiful flower amidst a grass field, and now it got plucked. What a shame. Ms. Aubbes has spoken quite well for herself, and courteously. But I'm going to get out the knives for you, Morgana Tsukiyo. For those of us who face an issue in our daily lives-- stuttering, pauses-- being singled out because of it is not a comfortable thing. It's not a friendly thing, either. When you you say her stutter is, itself, "adorable," are you admiring her ideas? Her mind? You're not. You're "admiring" a problem that makes it hard for us to communicate effectively. A keen mind is threatening, but one that flounders when trying to communicate is not. It's cute. It's harmless. When you point to that quality, you're pointing up a frailty, for your own amusement and others'. It's mockery, cloaked as admiration. It's cruel. This might be arguable if you just found her troubles when speaking in person delightful, but the fact that you'd say she shouldn't even use of a medium where she can freely say exactly what she thinks, clearly and well, with all the eloquence she can muster, and be admired for it, means that it's not the mannerism you find attractive; it's the incapacity. You like her helpless, and want her to stay that way. That you'd cloak that in terms of "embracing her whole self," accepting a limitation on her ability to communicate as a part who she is instead of using a method to make herself truly and fully heard, is a manipulative twist so awful that you've basically guaranteed I will trust nothing you have to say about anything, ever. Ms. Aubbes owes me nothing. And after such a move I rather think you've nullified any debt she might have owed to you, as well.
Oh Ms Jenneth, i have no interest in a quarrel with you, even though i do love knives when they are handled properly on my skin.
In case you haven-¦t noticed, i don-¦t consider a variation of tempo on her communication an issue, or a problem, or a fraillty, or a trouble, or an incapacity, nor a limitation. In fact, considering the ammount of adjectives that you used, i do invite you to re-read what you just wrote and look with new eyes who exactly is putting her in a "helpless" position.
To listen to someone only when they talk the way you like is an excellent way of not making herself truly and fully heard. Have you ever tried to stop and really listen to her, or all you could see was a variation of tempo and the need for it, for her to change so it pleased you?
When Jenneth talks about Aubbes, i learn more about Jenneth than about Aubbes.
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Charles Cambridge Schmidt
The Scope Gallente Federation
433
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Posted - 2017.05.01 00:58:09 -
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Morgana Tsukiyo wrote: Oh Ms Jenneth, i have no interest in a quarrel with you, even though i do love knives when they are handled properly on my skin.
It's like I stopped at a Vylade novelty shoppe and found a half-cred novel for sale called 'Lesbians In Space', turned to a random page, and read the line there.
That's what you wrote. That's what it is to me.
I don't care what you think, as long as it's about me.
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Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
3636
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Posted - 2017.05.01 01:43:34 -
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Morgana Tsukiyo wrote:In case you haven-¦t noticed, i don-¦t consider a variation of tempo on her communication an issue, or a problem, or a fraillty, or a trouble, or an incapacity, nor a limitation. In fact, considering the ammount of adjectives that you used, i do invite you to re-read what you just wrote and look with new eyes who exactly is putting her in a "helpless" position.
To listen to someone only when they talk the way you like is an excellent way of not making herself truly and fully heard. Have you ever tried to stop and really listen to her, or all you could see was a variation of tempo and the need for it, for her to change so it pleased you?
When Jenneth talks about Aubbes, i learn more about Jenneth than about Aubbes.
[Video feed]
An Achur woman, lean and small, dressed all in black, sits cross-legged on the floor of a small, unfurnished house. A bit of what might be pale sunlight leaks in through the windows, but the only other light comes from a single candle set in a (much larger) iron candelabra set before her, an obsidian locket and quartz pendant dangling from its branches. A long, sheathed dagger rests at its base. After a moment's apparent meditation, she lifts her head to regard the camera, her candle-lit expression serene and impassive.
Ave, Ms. Tsukiyo, she says, and her eyes harden.
I ... thought, for what I want to ... say, that maybe this medium ... might ... serve best. It's ... not ... really my best, though. Mr. Galente might ... accuse me of unintentional ... poetry, but.... She sighs. ... Text is so much ... easier. Time to think, and ... compose.
I'm doing this ... impromptu ... so ... ... it kind of seems like the way to ... convey the effect properly.
Reading your comments, which I'm ... including, above ... it's not easy. A speech impediment ... is exactly what it sounds like: it's ... trouble ... speaking.
Mine's a little ... marginal. It doesn't ... really get in the way all ... that much. I don't really ... stutter ... unless I'm really upset. Sometimes I even ... lose my pauses, if I ... get really into talking about something.
... I don't know what the ... cause is, exactly, either. It might ... be cultural, in some way; Aurora Morgan does this ... too.
She blows out the candle and slowly rises, lifting the dagger as she does so. The camera rises with her.
Maybe you'd ... think a limp was adorable, too. You can still get around. Who cares if it ... makes walking difficult? Or if it hurts? Why would anyone use a cane, or get surgery to ... fix their leg? Just because it ... would make life easier? A working leg is ... just a norm selfish ... people impose on you anyway because they want you to be normal!
This last word is snarled with searing venom-- possibly enough to surprise the speaker, herself, since she falls silent and still for several seconds, a silhouette in the near-gloom.
At length she slides the dagger into the sash at her back.
I had something I was going to ... say ... about what I've learned about you ... from reading what you say about me. But ... I don't think I've the heart for ... that ... right now. And I've ... got an old friend, who's ... visiting ... to ... go see. So I'll leave this at ... that.
She bends to scoop the candelabra from its place on the floor, and turns to the door, leaving the elaborate iron candlestick on a windowsill as she goes. She pauses in the doorway.
Goodbye, Ms. ... Tsukiyo.
The door closes. The clip ends. |
Aldrith Shutaq
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1999
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Posted - 2017.05.01 02:59:16 -
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What I do with my wife is none of your business.
Aldrith Ter'neth Shutaq Newelle
Fleet Captain of the Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
Divine Commodore of the 24th Imperial Crusade
Lord Consort of Lady Mitara Newelle, Champion of House Sarum and Holder of Damnidios Para'nashu
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Morgana Tsukiyo
Samsara Dynamics
128
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Posted - 2017.05.01 03:49:11 -
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Halcyon Ember wrote: Well it would be dreary of me to list every location I find myself in, would it not?
The relevant ones tend to stick on the mind and the heart.
Aria Jenneth wrote: [Video feed]
Farewell Ms Jenneth. Hope your visit is a pleasant one.
Aldrith Shutaq wrote: What I do with my wife is none of your business.
Who is married to you? |
Halcyon Ember
Repracor Industries
190
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Posted - 2017.05.01 07:39:38 -
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Morgana Tsukiyo wrote:Halcyon Ember wrote: Well it would be dreary of me to list every location I find myself in, would it not?
The relevant ones tend to stick on the mind and the heart.
I don't feel that things which "stick on the heart" are for sharing with all
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Lasairiona Raske
Raske Holdings
345
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Posted - 2017.05.01 07:54:40 -
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I prefer to continue to be the subject of speculation as to my romantic interests.
Are you a devil or an angel
Sent here from heaven or from hell?
Sweet temptress, I'm wrapped in your tangles
Can't find my way out of your spell
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Nai Arto
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
32
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Posted - 2017.05.01 08:59:49 -
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As a simple media observer, most news appeals to me... but gossip of a romantic nature is a bit unseemly for my tastes. |
Nauplius
Hoi Andrapodistai
799
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Posted - 2017.05.01 11:55:06 -
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This thread gives me the same feeling of unease as being at Ms. Raske's last party: that I shouldn't be here; that something has gone dreadfully wrong; that I need to go home and rethink the short and medium term course of my life.
(Although it did somehow serve as the vehicle for Ms. Jenneth to reveal more of her occult practice, so that counts for something). |
Halcyon Ember
Repracor Industries
190
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Posted - 2017.05.01 12:29:13 -
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Nauplius wrote:This thread gives me the same feeling of unease as being at Ms. Raske's last party: that I shouldn't be here; that something has gone dreadfully wrong; that I need to go home and rethink the short and medium term course of my life.
(Although it did somehow serve as the vehicle for Ms. Jenneth to reveal more of her occult practice, so that counts for something). Are you accusing her of witchcraft? |
Morgana Tsukiyo
Samsara Dynamics
128
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Posted - 2017.05.01 12:47:34 -
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The plot thickens.
*Dramatic BGM*
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Teinyhr
Ourumur
864
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Posted - 2017.05.01 14:11:44 -
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My mother is, by some definitions, a witch. Something wrong with that? |
Mitara Newelle
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
591
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Posted - 2017.05.01 14:12:48 -
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Morgana Tsukiyo wrote:Aldrith Shutaq wrote: What I do with my wife is none of your business.
Who is married to you? This goes against my better judgement, but...
You have to ask this? Are you just that lazy?
Lady Mitara Newelle of House Sarum, Holder of the Mekhios province of Damnidios Para'nashu, Champion of House Sarum, Sworn Upholder of the Faith, Divine Commodore of the 24th Imperial Crusade
Admiral of Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Halcyon Ember
Repracor Industries
190
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Posted - 2017.05.01 14:26:07 -
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I'm simply trying to unravel this latest thread of madness. |
Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3335
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Posted - 2017.05.01 14:43:59 -
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Morgana Tsukiyo wrote:Aldrith Shutaq wrote: What I do with my wife is none of your business.
Who is married to you?
Not for nothing, Morgana, but considering this is the signature of the message you responded to:
Aldrith Ter'neth Shutaq Newelle Fleet Captain of the Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris Divine Commodore of the 24th Imperial Crusade Lord Consort of Lady Mitara Newelle, Champion of House Sarum and Holder of Damnidios Para'nashu
You might, you know, wanna not ignore what people put out there. And you should definitely listen to Aria. She tends not to make statements without thoroughly considering them. I don't necessarily always agree with what she says, but she's definitely put plenty of thought into it. |
Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
3644
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Posted - 2017.05.01 15:12:58 -
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Halcyon Ember wrote:I'm simply trying to unravel this latest thread of madness.
Mr. Nauplius thinks the occult traditions of other cultures are sources of hidden wisdom to be mined by the chosen, Ms. Ember. He's wanted me to show more Achur practices for a while now.
He might be a little disappointed to find out this one's just my daily candle ritual, a meditation on the act of bringing a little light into the world, and that it was Nicoletta Mithra who assigned me such an exercise. The bits that aren't Amarrian, here, are personal, reflections of my past, and people who've been important to me. |
Morgana Tsukiyo
Samsara Dynamics
129
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Posted - 2017.05.01 15:22:32 -
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Nauplius wrote: This thread gives me the same feeling of unease as being at Ms. Raske's last party: that I shouldn't be here; that something has gone dreadfully wrong; that I need to go home and rethink the short and medium term course of my life.
(Although it did somehow serve as the vehicle for Ms. Jenneth to reveal more of her occult practice, so that counts for something).
You are a special one for you can see the hidden forces at work. You-¦re just mixing the names and intentions, but you have the sight.
Mitara Newelle wrote:
This goes against my better judgement, but...
You have to ask this? Are you just that lazy?
Sorry, don-¦t give attention to honorifics. I-¦m more of a here and now kind of person. I just didn-¦t understand why he brought you up on this communication medium, would you please explain to me?
Arrendis wrote: Not for nothing, Morgana, but considering this is the signature of the message you responded to:
You might, you know, wanna not ignore what people put out there. And you should definitely listen to Aria. She tends not to make statements without thoroughly considering them. I don't necessarily always agree with what she says, but she's definitely put plenty of thought into it.
Oh, it was in the middle of a bunch of honorifics. Sorry, i don-¦t allocate time to read those.
I have no issues with Aria. I respect that she may find her condition unconfortable and i didn-¦t and wouldn-¦t say a single word about her feelings on the subject.
However, trying to impose her feelings on Tsao, that i had problem with. I don-¦t like projections, be responsible for your own stuff. whatever that may be.
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Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3339
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Posted - 2017.05.01 15:30:16 -
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Morgana Tsukiyo wrote: However, trying to impose her feelings on Tsao, that i had problem with. I don-¦t like projections, be responsible for your own stuff. whatever that may be.
Have you ever known anyone who has difficulty making themselves understood who liked having difficulty making themselves understood? Everyone I've ever known who had a stutter, or a stammer, or any other form of speech impediment found it incredibly frustrating to have to try to power through. Being reminded that she can slow down, take her time, and not have to struggle with her words isn't exactly projection, it's more 'hey, relax, deep breaths, it's ok'.
And while I believe you're trying to be supportive of Aubbes there, having you calling attention to it probably just makes her more self-consciouso and uncomfortable. Just let her do her, however she chooses to do it. |
Morgana Tsukiyo
Samsara Dynamics
129
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Posted - 2017.05.01 15:45:43 -
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Arrendis wrote: Have you ever known anyone who has difficulty making themselves understood who liked having difficulty making themselves understood? Everyone I've ever known who had a stutter, or a stammer, or any other form of speech impediment found it incredibly frustrating to have to try to power through. Being reminded that she can slow down, take her time, and not have to struggle with her words isn't exactly projection, it's more 'hey, relax, deep breaths, it's ok'.
And while I believe you're trying to be supportive of Aubbes there, having you calling attention to it probably just makes her more self-consciouso and uncomfortable. Just let her do her, however she chooses to do it.
I don-¦t like talking about third parties, so last interaction on the subject.
A lot of people presuming a lot regarding what her feelings are.
List to her instead of assuming what is going on. She has a voice of her own. Why don-¦t you just ask her how she feels?
What i had to say to Tsao i said to Tsao, what i had to say to Aria i said to Aria, and what i had to say to You i said to you.
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Maria Daphiti
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
289
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Posted - 2017.05.01 15:49:10 -
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What does Liara Enith have to say about all this (or the OP?) that's sorta what i want to know! |
Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3339
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Posted - 2017.05.01 15:59:20 -
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Morgana Tsukiyo wrote: List to her instead of assuming what is going on. She has a voice of her own. Why don-¦t you just ask her how she feels?
I have listened to her. I've also read what she herself said on the matter here. And I take her at her word, instead of saying what a shame it is that she's expressed herself and made a decision.
Maybe you should, again, not ignore what people put out there? |
Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3339
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Posted - 2017.05.01 16:02:01 -
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Maria Daphiti wrote:What does Liara Enith have to say about all this (or the OP?) that's sorta what i want to know!
I thnk that if she had anything she wanted to say for our consumption, she would have, and since she hasn't, then whatever she thinks, she's not under any obligation to share with us.
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Mitara Newelle
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
593
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Posted - 2017.05.01 16:28:32 -
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Morgana Tsukiyo wrote: I just didn-¦t understand why he brought you up on this communication medium, would you please explain to me?
Your attention span is horrifically short. The original poster made a general inquiry as to 'who is dating who' and as to their... activities.
By posting, Lord Newelle answered the first part of the question as his signature and publicly available biography being quite clear in this regard, and in his post declined to comment on the second part.
As to why he decided to post at all, he will have to answer that.
Lady Mitara Newelle of House Sarum, Holder of the Mekhios province of Damnidios Para'nashu, Champion of House Sarum, Sworn Upholder of the Faith, Divine Commodore of the 24th Imperial Crusade
Admiral of Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Aldrith Shutaq
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2003
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Posted - 2017.05.01 17:43:24 -
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Jokes are ruined when you have to explain them.
Aldrith Ter'neth Shutaq Newelle
Fleet Captain of the Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
Divine Commodore of the 24th Imperial Crusade
Lord Consort of Lady Mitara Newelle, Champion of House Sarum and Holder of Damnidios Para'nashu
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Morgana Tsukiyo
Samsara Dynamics
129
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Posted - 2017.05.01 17:47:01 -
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Mitara Newelle wrote:Morgana Tsukiyo wrote: I just didn-¦t understand why he brought you up on this communication medium, would you please explain to me?
Your attention span is horrifically short. The original poster made a general inquiry as to 'who is dating who' and as to their... activities. By posting, Lord Newelle answered the first part of the question as his signature and publicly available biography being quite clear in this regard, and in his post declined to comment on the second part. As to why he decided to post at all, he will have to answer that.
Thank you. Since it was a "dating" question i didn-¦t understand how a "wife" showed up, and specially announced in a way that involved not wanitng to talk about it and yet doing it.
Aldrith Shutaq wrote: Jokes are ruined when you have to explain them.
Guess our taste in humor is quite different. |
Mebrithiel Ju'wien
Anshar Incorporated Monyusaiya Industry Trade Group
114
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Posted - 2017.05.01 18:06:31 -
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Maria Daphiti wrote:What does Liara Enith have to say about all this (or the OP?) that's sorta what i want to know!
Nauplius wrote:This thread gives me the same feeling of unease as being at Ms. Raske's last party: that I shouldn't be here; that something has gone dreadfully wrong; that I need to go home and rethink the short and medium term course of my life. Holy crapsticks did this thread deliver! I think your answer is right there, Maria!
Dayum Dagon, I never expected to have this sort of feedback, even after I got the date with Liara. Relationships have certainly become a lot more interesting lately if flirting on this scale happens in my lil' tiny discussion.
Sooooooooo... when's the wedding happening guys? Morgana... Aria... Can I be the Maid of Dishonour?
But here is the blood still and all the perfumes of Aridia will not sweeten this little rose GÖÑ
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Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
2368
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Posted - 2017.05.01 18:25:32 -
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People have time for dating? Between my planetside work and fleet ops, I barely find time for casual flings anymore... let alone dating.
A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.
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