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Paulus Plain
Mitochondrial EVE Alliance
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Posted - 2017.04.30 07:00:24 -
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What does FULL API KEY IN YOUR APPLICATION Mean? |
Salah ad-Din al-Jawahiri
New Order Logistics CODE.
763
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Posted - 2017.04.30 07:55:43 -
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You are required to give a special key to your assigned HR manager that allows them to see all information about your character's in-game interactions, including wallet transactions, skills, combat performance, and evemails. Many corps require disclosure of full API as a standard vetting procedure.
APIs don't give actual control over or character, just information.
An API key can be created through CCP's support website: https://community.eveonline.com/support/api-key/
Agent of the New Order
Live by the Code - die by the Code.
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Do Little
Virgin Plc Evictus.
1106
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Posted - 2017.04.30 08:34:09 -
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Generally the recruiter will give you a link that includes the API mask they want. A lot of corporations will want an account wide API - i.e. they want to know all characters on the account - not just the character applying to join.
It's similar to the resume you provide when applying for a real world job. The meta game in Eve is arguably more important than the actual game so spying is a profession and the API check is basic due diligence to reduce the likelihood of recruiting an enemy. |
Chewytowel Haklar
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
287
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Posted - 2017.04.30 08:57:00 -
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It's a way to catch bad spies and corp thieves. The good ones know how to keep it all very well concealed regardless of any number of API checks.
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Nardos Tatio
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2017.04.30 09:06:01 -
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I don't need and i don't have to pull my pants down before anyone....
Even if the facebook generation sees "no problem" in this my data belongs to me and I decide if and what i share....
No corp if this is the price.... |
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
47671
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Posted - 2017.04.30 09:07:46 -
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An API key is created at:
https://community.eveonline.com/support/api-key
Depending on how it is setup, it provides only access to the public information about your character. For example, OP, here is the basic information anyone can access:
https://api.eveonline.com/eve/CharacterInfo.xml.aspx?characterID=96713730
However, you can also provide access to information that requires verification before CCP will respond with the information to a request made for it.
You can see a list of data that can be included, here:
http://eveonline-third-party-documentation.readthedocs.io/en/latest/xmlapi/
A request for a full API is generally a request for access to all information, for all characters on an account, including the characters not applying for membership.
Some Corps/Alliances also expect full API keys for all accounts you own. |
Eternus8lux8lucis
Primus Inc. LEGIO ASTARTES ARCANUM
1488
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Posted - 2017.04.30 11:07:23 -
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The end result of a full API is that that account and all characters and records can be traced for that account and characters for the entire life of that account itself. If you leave the alliance/corp they will still have full records of all your activities and contacts in the future, all mail, all correspondence in game, etc.
A full API is for life.
Have you heard anything I've said?
You said it's all circling the drain, the whole universe. Right?
That's right.
Had to end sometime.
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Cybertherion
Pneumatic Cabal
64
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Posted - 2017.04.30 11:11:24 -
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It's a trap.
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Aves Asio
69
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Posted - 2017.04.30 12:03:13 -
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Scipio Artelius wrote:Some Corps/Alliances also expect full API keys for all accounts you own.
A try hard faction warfare corp once asked me this, i almost pissed my self. Like why would i willingly give out such information. |
Cybertherion
Pneumatic Cabal
65
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Posted - 2017.04.30 12:10:17 -
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Aves Asio wrote:Scipio Artelius wrote:Some Corps/Alliances also expect full API keys for all accounts you own. A corp once asked me for this, i almost pissed my self. Like why would i willingly give out such information.
Fixed that for you darl.
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Do Little
Virgin Plc Evictus.
1107
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Posted - 2017.04.30 12:24:33 -
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There is no law requiring you to give out your API, just as there is no law requiring you to give a potential employer your resume or authorization to do a background check. But you aren't going to get the job or a corp invite unless you do. The question is who is doing who the favor here?
It's true that NPC corporations don't require your API - CCP already has all the information!
You can delete an API key and they will expire automatically after a year unless you specify no expiry.
As someone who has needed to hold secret security clearance as a condition of employment for most of my career, I can assure you that the API check required by most Eve corporations is relatively non-intrusive. |
Aedaxus
Digital Zone Corp
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Posted - 2017.04.30 12:32:10 -
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Do Little wrote:As someone who has needed to hold secret security clearance as a condition of employment for most of my career, I can assure you that the API check required by most Eve corporations is relatively non-intrusive. I'll add "and no longer ever will get one due to exposing them on the Internet." I hope you didn't get too much restricted information in your hands if this is how you handle information.... your country is screwed. |
Cybertherion
Pneumatic Cabal
65
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Posted - 2017.04.30 12:40:51 -
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Do Little wrote:There is no law requiring you to give out your API, just as there is no law requiring you to give a potential employer your resume or authorization to do a background check. But you aren't going to get the job or a corp invite unless you do.
Weird. I've joined plenty of successful corps without an API. IRL I became a bartender just by drinking at a pub. Did it for 4 years. I never had an RSA (Responsible Service of Alcohol) check or anything then either.
But I'm not a square.
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Sir BloodArgon Aulmais
Fortis Fortuna Adiuvatt Dot Dot Dot
106
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Posted - 2017.04.30 13:31:43 -
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Nardos Tatio wrote:I don't need and i don't have to pull my pants down before anyone....
Even if the facebook generation sees "no problem" in this my data belongs to me and I decide if and what i share....
No corp if this is the price....
Here we go, another nut job who doesn't want us to see his wallet balance and where he keeps his ibis's. |
Nardos Tatio
State War Academy Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2017.04.30 19:25:05 -
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Sir BloodArgon Aulmais wrote:Nardos Tatio wrote:I don't need and i don't have to pull my pants down before anyone....
Even if the facebook generation sees "no problem" in this my data belongs to me and I decide if and what i share....
No corp if this is the price.... Here we go, another nut job who doesn't want us to see his wallet balance and where he keeps his ibis's.
Yep....
"who has nothing to hide has to have nothing against letting down his digital panties" or has he?.....
If life was so easy......
I don't care what you think about it but my data belong to me,not to a corperation (facebook(no acount here)) or an online generated key that can be used in a way i can't control.....
Maybe you see "no problem" in this because "everyone does it" and "the EVE corps demand it" but those demands are outrageous in my eyes and i will NEVER follow them.... If the result is a "no corp fo you" than may it be so.....
I don't give the data collecting krakens an inch where i can hinder them in collecting everyones data and scanning everyones life for possible sellable information......
Understand it or not that's the only opinion that counts for me....mine.....
And i don't give a dam if all others are feeling well in their digital nudity...... |
Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
2906
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Posted - 2017.04.30 20:30:34 -
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Eternus8lux8lucis wrote:The end result of a full API is that that account and all characters and records can be traced for that account and characters for the entire life of that account itself. If you leave the alliance/corp they will still have full records of all your activities and contacts in the future, all mail, all correspondence in game, etc.
A full API is for life. you can delete api keys in your api settings. you can also create new ones and make a special one for the corp that you can later delete if you no longer want that corp to have it.
https://community.eveonline.com/support/api-key/
And if you don't want to hand out your info, don't. there are corps that will take you without an api, or with a limited api.
selling officer BCUs! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6872141
@ChainsawPlankto on twitter
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Nardos Tatio
State War Academy Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2017.04.30 20:36:24 -
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Chainsaw Plankton wrote: And if you don't want to hand out your info, don't. there are corps that will take you without an api, or with a limited api.
This is not relevant....
Even the demand of something like that ist outrageous.....
Just give people you can't trust any rights.....not even the slightest... |
Cartheron Crust
Matari Exodus
201
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Posted - 2017.04.30 21:27:45 -
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It means you are applying to a crappy corp. |
Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
2908
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Posted - 2017.04.30 22:39:05 -
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Nardos Tatio wrote:Chainsaw Plankton wrote: And if you don't want to hand out your info, don't. there are corps that will take you without an api, or with a limited api.
This is not relevant.... Even the demand of something like that is outrageous..... Just don't give people you can't trust any rights.....not even the slightest... then don't be upset when they don't trust you and give you the right to join their corp.
selling officer BCUs! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6872141
@ChainsawPlankto on twitter
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oiukhp Muvila
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
194
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Posted - 2017.05.01 00:04:32 -
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I think the somewhat high demand for full api keys points to quite a few design weaknesses of this game.
The tools to counter spies and corp thieves should be more related to corp management and operational security.
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Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
47674
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Posted - 2017.05.01 00:28:42 -
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Nardos Tatio wrote:I don't care what you think about it but my data belong to me,not to a corperation (facebook(no acount here)) or an online generated key that can be used in a way i can't control..... LOL.
All your characters data is owned by CCP. You don't own any of it. You even agreed that you don't own any of it and even if you create an API, the information doesn't come from you. It comes from CCP. CCP is a corporation and they can already choose to use or provide that information anyway they like. |
Hal Morsh
Minmatar Confederate
582
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Posted - 2017.05.01 00:30:21 -
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Do Little wrote:Generally the recruiter will give you a link that includes the API mask they want. A lot of corporations will want an account wide API - i.e. they want to know all characters on the account - not just the character applying to join.
It's similar to the resume you provide when applying for a real world job. The meta game in Eve is arguably more important than the actual game so spying is a profession and the API check is basic due diligence to reduce the likelihood of recruiting an enemy.
If someone doesn't do API and thinks you are a spy but wont actually kick you out, it becomes a passive aggressive stress out. No trust means no interaction.
Being sapient can drive us mad.
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Djsaeu
Xx-illuminati-xX
59
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Posted - 2017.05.01 06:02:37 -
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If you are unwilling to trust the Corp. you want to join, by all means do not give the API key. But remember trust is a 2 way street, if you do not trust them why would they trust you? |
Nardos Tatio
State War Academy Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2017.05.01 07:06:27 -
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As i said before.....no digital panties down here in any way and on the other side i don't demand "let me join".....
ME...
Not everyone......
I'm not on a "holy mission" to show everyone how dangerous the internet is and that your data is yours......those who are willingly giving away their data to facebook and co should do this....but no one should blame me for not understanding and criticizing it....
Too much data is given away today and way too much is sold to and by corps that make money with it without your permission....
And YES...every bit of(personal) data belongs to ME not CCP or any other corperation regardless what is written in a contract of any sort.....
I'm responsible for it and i'm not willing to give it away to everyone...... |
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
47675
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Posted - 2017.05.01 07:13:53 -
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Nardos Tatio wrote:And YES...every bit of(personal) data belongs to ME not CCP or any other corperation regardless what is written in a contract of any sort..... Data available on your character through the API does not contain any information that is personally identifying to you as a player, only information about your characters and no, none of it belongs to you. It all belongs to CCP as you agreed when you agreed to the EULA.
Specifically:
A. Communications
... You acknowledge and agree that you have no expectation of privacy regarding communications you make in the Game, whether through private in-Game messaging, during chat, or in chat rooms. ...
and more importantly:
B. Rights to Certain Content
...Your Account, and all attributes of your Account, including all corporations, actions, groups, titles and characters, and all objects, currency and items acquired, developed or delivered by or to characters as a result of play through your Accounts, are the sole and exclusive property of CCP,...
Without limiting its rights in any way, and subject to the other terms of the EULA, CCP shall have the right to display and publish any information (except certain personal information in your Account) relating to any character in your Account, for example, in charts, lists and other compilations, without notice or any compensation to you whatsoever. |
Nardos Tatio
State War Academy Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2017.05.01 07:19:28 -
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Scipio Artelius wrote:Nardos Tatio wrote:And YES...every bit of(personal) data belongs to ME not CCP or any other corperation regardless what is written in a contract of any sort..... Data available on your character through the API does not contain any information that is personally identifying to you as a player, only information about your characters and no, none of it belongs to you. It all belongs to CCP as you agreed when you agreed to the EULA. Specifically: A. Communications
... You acknowledge and agree that you have no expectation of privacy regarding communications you make in the Game, whether through private in-Game messaging, during chat, or in chat rooms. ...and more importantly: B. Rights to Certain Content
...Your Account, and all attributes of your Account, including all corporations, actions, groups, titles and characters, and all objects, currency and items acquired, developed or delivered by or to characters as a result of play through your Accounts, are the sole and exclusive property of CCP,...
Without limiting its rights in any way, and subject to the other terms of the EULA, CCP shall have the right to display and publish any information (except certain personal information in your Account) relating to any character in your Account, for example, in charts, lists and other compilations, without notice or any compensation to you whatsoever. I'm talking about personal,not character data..... slight but remarkable difference.....
And yes i know that the API does not show "personal" data but - in my eyes- that makes no difference.....this is data regarding MY behaviour in the game and that's something any other person has not to care about.......
But i confess that this is something basically,not eve specific..... :-) |
Magnus Jax
7
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Posted - 2017.05.01 07:27:32 -
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Nardos Tatio wrote:I'm talking about personal,not character data..... slight but remarkable difference.....
And yes i know that the API does not show "personal" data but - in my eyes- that makes no difference.....this is data regarding MY behaviour in the game and that's something any other person has not to care about.......
But i confess that this is something basically,not eve specific..... :-)
This is on the EVE forums about the EVE API, why are you even in this conversation.
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Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
47675
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Posted - 2017.05.01 07:28:01 -
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Nardos Tatio wrote: I'm talking about personal,not character data..... slight but remarkable difference.....
And yes i know that the API does not show "personal" data but - in my eyes- that makes no difference.....this is data regarding MY behaviour in the game and that's something any other person has not to care about.......
But i confess that this is something basically,not eve specific..... :-)
Which has absolutely zip to do with this thread. It isn't at all relevant to this discussion.
Neither is Facebook relevant to this discussion in any way at all.
You can safely give API information to Corporations in game and it does not in any way expose your personal player information. As to exposing your behaviour, you already don't own that information. CCP does and can do with it what they want. |
Nardos Tatio
State War Academy Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2017.05.01 08:19:46 -
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Scipio Artelius wrote:Nardos Tatio wrote: I'm talking about personal,not character data..... slight but remarkable difference.....
And yes i know that the API does not show "personal" data but - in my eyes- that makes no difference.....this is data regarding MY behaviour in the game and that's something any other person has not to care about.......
But i confess that this is something basically,not eve specific..... :-)
Which has absolutely zip to do with this thread. It isn't at all relevant to this discussion. Neither is Facebook relevant to this discussion in any way at all. You can safely give API information to Corporations in game and it does not in any way expose your personal player information. As to exposing your behaviour, you already don't own that information. CCP does and can do with it what they want.
Well it IS part of this post as far as i refuse ANY form of data collecting via API key and -sry for your unconvinience- but my opinion counts as much as yours.
Facebook is an example for a data collecting kraken and therefore IS relevant in this post and HAS to do with API Key as another example of what should not be in my opinion....
So calm down and listen to what i wrote and don't try to troll me..... |
xxxTRUSTxxx
Galactic Rangers EVEolution.
625
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Posted - 2017.05.01 08:52:32 -
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lol @ all the newbs that don't know what the feck they are talking about. |
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