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Requiem Jofama
Svea Rike Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2017.04.30 10:10:53 -
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The Idea: A citadel that replace small POS for guerilla warfare
Features: Only take 60-120 min to anchor Only has shield and hull with 24h timer between Has no defence and can only fit clone bay- and fitting modules
It is meant to be a forward base in guerilla warfare or to create a bridgehead, replacing small posses. |
Danika Princip
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5472
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Posted - 2017.04.30 10:28:18 -
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What's the vulnerability timer, and what's the intended price?
And why bother with a less featured astrahus? |
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
3970
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Posted - 2017.04.30 12:00:33 -
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This would be too good, drop it outside someones TZ 1Mm off their Citadel, oops, they now can't get rid of it before their own citadel is vulnerable, and suddenly anyone they pod is cloning to the citadel right there with a new ship already, So,... Yeah NO! |
Alderson Point
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
72
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Posted - 2017.05.01 16:59:08 -
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Requiem Jofama wrote:The Idea: A citadel that replace small POS for guerilla warfare
Features: Only take 60-120 min to anchor Only has shield and hull with 24h timer between Has no defence and can only fit clone bay- and fitting modules
It is meant to be a forward base in guerilla warfare or to create a bridgehead, replacing small posses.
There is a good argument for replacing the small pos with something similar in the citadel line, the small pos for anchoring time, unanchoring, hauling size, and strength was just about the perfect tool for the job.
If it is going to be replaced by a citadel, that would be a good starting point.
But the fact it can be deployed anywhere significantly effects it's power.
CCP mentioned this at the round table, if you have any Ideas of how to mitigate that, that would go a long way to enabling us to have it.
Current suggestion, was that nothing could dock, and only a limited amount of ships tether. That's a bit untidy, there must be a better idea?
One might be that it required fuel with a maximum 36hours of life without refuelling, but again that is untidy.
Another was simply an advanced mobile depot, with exactly the same vunerabilities and lifespan, that one could dock up in and tether to, a small subcap group of ships. A personal not corp anchored structure. A cabin in the wilderness not a castle.
There must be a better option out there? |
Marika Sunji
Dark-Rising Wrecking Machine.
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Posted - 2017.05.01 19:50:29 -
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WTB 200 of these on the Dital gate in KBP. With 1h anchor timer, please. #totallynotbroken |
Alderson Point
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2017.05.01 20:41:59 -
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Marika Sunji wrote:WTB 200 of these on the Dital gate in KBP. With 1h anchor timer, please. #totallynotbroken
There clearly were not 200 small pos on the Dital Gate, which is why being able to be anchored anywhere is a potential issue. On the other hand there are probably 200 mobile depots in Jita, they do not cause the end of the world, what balance do you propose?
Possibly not being anchored within 10000k of a gate or structure, seems a pretty obvious one. |
Jonathon Silence
Celestial Horizon Corp. Badfellas Inc.
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Posted - 2017.05.02 04:05:34 -
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I like the idea of an upgrade Mobile depot. Give it a tether like capability (less shield/cap/armour transferred) so that you are not invulnerable. And limit the ship types it works for to make this to act as a medium ship beach head.
As for limiting it's abuse. It can not be un-anchored if any Hull/Armor damage. 10,000 Km exclusion (so that it can not be anchored within 10,000 Km of an existing Structure or Celestial, hence no blobbing. I thought about putting a limit on the number of them in the system but that is game-able by Alliances just anchoring their own in system.
The Clone bay thing is not so much of an issue in that you would need to install a clone into it first before being able to clone jump to it (yes you can death jump but just make it so you can not set your medical close to it if it is that much of a concern). So I do not see this as such an issue. Maybe we could make clones a transportable item so that people could prepare a clone then the advance team sneaks in deploys this then loads the clones and the ships, after a set time they go active and people can jump to the clones. Might be interesting game play.
As for 'Vulnerability' make it have a number of hours per day that it is vulnerable rather than hours per week.
Make it difficult to scan down (and scan down the ships near it), difficult but not impossible. Maybe only scanable during Vulnerability time (+plus 1 hour either side depending on the vulnerability). |
Mnemo Noire
The House of Asterion
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Posted - 2017.05.04 08:23:37 -
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Requiem Jofama wrote:The Idea: A citadel that replace small POS for guerilla warfare
Features: Only take 60-120 min to anchor Only has shield and hull with 24h timer between Has no defence and can only fit clone bay- and fitting modules
It is meant to be a forward base in guerilla warfare or to create a bridgehead, replacing small posses.
I would like to extend this to make it more balanced:
4 hour anchor/unanchor time Only shield + Structure 24 hour timer. No tether while reinforced (can undock but not redock, warning on undock) Can only dock Cruiser and smaller. D-Scannable, Combat Probe-able, NOT on system map. Not hidden by the cloaking deployable. Volume 2000 m3 minimal defences, maybe 50% range penalty. maybe only able to fit Battleship offensive modules.
I think only allowing cruisers and below to dock should make the ability to fit a clone bay more balanced.
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