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CupKate
Burning Skull Syndicate
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Posted - 2017.05.03 22:56:45 -
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To the best of my research into the situation, buy orders created in Upwell structures that have set a range greater than "station" can only be filled from within NPC stations or player outposts. Buy orders cannot be filled by from other Upwell structures.
I tried to search and can't find the explanation. Please explain the logic in this? To cover a region supplied mostly by Upwell structures, I need to set up individual buy orders within each separate structure. This is madness.
Thanks for the history lesson on this mechanic! |
CupKate
Burning Skull Syndicate
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Posted - 2017.05.04 04:38:58 -
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Player controlled outposts/conqurable stations can also be inaccessible based on standings. This shouldn't be the reason. Let the risk be known and it's up to buyer to make sure they know what it means to have a range on their buy orders. |
CupKate
Burning Skull Syndicate
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Posted - 2017.05.04 12:43:52 -
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Areen Sassel wrote:CupKate wrote:Let the risk be known and it's up to buyer to make sure they know what it means to have a range on their buy orders. This would essentially mean that ranged buy orders would have zero utility. That doesn't seem very sensible.
ummm... so what happens this winter when player outposts go away, leaving large swaths of null with only upwell structures? ranged buy orders will have no utility! There's no point setting a ranged buy when none of the other locations where players can dock will be able to sell to your buy order. |
CupKate
Burning Skull Syndicate
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Posted - 2017.05.04 17:00:40 -
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Alexi Stokov wrote:
You actually want to be able to set a ranged buy order in null and have orders filled in stations you can't dock at? How does that make sense?
I guess I'm missing why this isn't important to more market and trade people here.
I am looking for consistency in the way the market mechanics work. If from any station or outpost I can put a ranged buy and have it filled at any other station or outpost in that range, upwell structures should operate the same way.
Similarly, if I'm in an upwell structure and put a ranged buy up, that buy can be filled at any station or outpost.
The only scenario(s) that don't work is: 1) having my upwell structure ranged buy be filled at another upwell structure. 2) having my NPC/Outpost ranged buy be flled at an upwell structure.
This is inconsistent and a limitation to market playstyle.
Limitations this mechanic creates:
There are large parts of null where the same organization/alliance holds many systems, each with upwell structures. This upwell structure limitation prevents placing a ranged buy order that covers all those structures.
Similarly, in highsec, a player should be able sell to ranged buys from freehub to freehub..
Shouldn't someone in jita be able to place a 1-jump ranged buy to be filled by the freehubs in Perimeter, Maurasi, or elsewhere? Right now, you can't sell to the Jita ranged buys from these freehubs.
The freehubs are never going to become a challenge to Jita 4-4 if people can't go there to offload all their assets to the best available buy price in the range. |
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