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Ayallah
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2017.05.08 15:44:01 -
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You should write drifter conspiracies.
Endlessly trying to convince people with no say that the Tribal government that is not violently protested against, grows the Republic's economy, has dropped the crime rate, reduced corruption, and improved security is bad takes a real talent for omission and re-direction. Karin Midular literally dissolving the entire governing body of the First Republic when a vote of no confidence in her position as prime minister removed her from power was not the act of an authoritarian but the act of someone who truly was acting with the best interest of the Tribes at heart.
The Sanmatar returning all Tribes and overseeing the creation of a new Tribal order with the chief's at its head and then stepping back into the historic position of mediator he was elected into is obviously the dangerous first (second?) move of a dictator. He could have just kept all power like he had for years while he worked to that goal but then people would not like him.
The Sanmatar in your world must be the most brilliant dictator of all time. I do not know how he ever has time to actually mediate dispute in the Tribal Council or appear in public when he is so busy organizing everything from the bombing of empty theatres to the assassination of The Ray of Matar.
And I love how now the Elder Fleet was all attributed to Midular as well. That certainly is a strong reversal of the last few years of insisting that Shakor secretly funneled funds away to create it and use it to overthrow the First Republic. When she released a statement saying "we do not know who they are" at their appearance in Yulai she was just pretending then? When her office stated "Under no conceivable circumstances would Premier Midular authorize or endorse any threat against CONCORD" and that there would be "Very serious implications for Mr. Yun" (if he was involved) and you say it was her fleet??
Senior councilman Amrisar resigned because Karin Midular had "pulled the strings so long she had forgotten about political process." The number of Matari leaving her Republic for the Federation increased seven-fold under her stagnating economy with unemployment and crime rising and under Shakor more have moved to the Republic from the Federation than the inverse. Violence among the Tribes was at its highest during her reign. Muritor, the theft of the Alfhild, the One ISK protests, the Bloody Hands, the bombing of Egbonbet, [b]Skarkon[b] (when she threw Yun out of parliment), her slow response to Jarizza, ...all you gloss over in your effort to blame Shakor for her death. You paint the purge of the First Republic as an act of power consolidation and ignore the evidence of their corruption and connections to the Sanist Karsoth. You ignore it was Karin Midular herself that called for the vote that elected Shakor as Prime Minister and the wave of support that named him Sanmatar.
I enjoy also how you twisted events to pretend that medical aid was refused when she was not transported because she was in Federal medical care and could not be moved for fear of her life. It was not until Federal doctors stated that moving her would cause her no harm that she was brought to Pator but in your mind it must have been what killed her and all some plot by the Sanmatar. Regardless of the fact she was in the care of theSebiestor Tribe.
You say the shooter was silenced forever and forget that it was YOUR tribe which did so. He was not tried by Shakor or the Brutor but by the Sebiestor Tribal Court so how does that fit into your conspiracy? Is the Sanmatar still such a fantastic dictator that your Tribe's highest court are also his puppets Elsebeth? His execution under Sebiestor law is somehow now a method to silence an agent of Shakor?
You go against the wishes of your own chief and disgrace Karin Midular, the Sanmatar, and the Republic with your insane theories. Her legacy was meant to be that of the Ray of Matar who struggled against a broken system to find peace, a legacy of Tribal autonomy being paramount in the Republic.
Instead you wish her legacy to be that of a helpless fool who was assassinated by her enemies. Perhaps the silence that deafens you is the disgust of your fellow Tribesman. But I am sure this conspiracy will live on in the hearts of ignorant capsuleers and backwater clans for all time.
As strength goes.
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Ayallah
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
906
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Posted - 2017.05.08 16:15:40 -
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I have no allegiance to a Tribe and everything I said is also factual. I may be biased as the actions of the Elder Fleet lead me to where I am now but that fleet was destroyed. Or maybe you think I am like some Amarrians who rejoiced over the death of the Ray Of Matar. You and I spoke often in the Standing Place when it happened so you know that is not true.
Later I will make pretty links like hers but it will not convince anyone. Those who believe that the First Republic was destroyed by Shakor to create a dictatorship and that Karin Midular was assassinated will continue to do so. Those who do not care will continue to do so. The Bias is in the Sebiestor who continually spread this conspiracy despite all evidence, despite the findings and actions of their own Tribe and Chief.
It has been years of this same debate and still no evidence to support the conspiracy Anabella. Only this time she changed the words and said that the Elder Fleet was "her's" and that Shakor or whomever refused treatment from Federal doctors. Those are both outright lies and completely verifiable by anyone who has access to the scope archives.
I did not attack her personally, I attacked this ridiculous idea that will not die. That will not let The Ray Of Matar rest or let a large portion of the Matari Capsuleer population to see the good in their new Tribal Government and instead constantly doomsay about a dictator who never appeared. This constant movement of nostalgia to pretend that everything was good under the First Republic and everything is bad under the Tribal Republic is what I am attacking. I argued with Avalynkaa until she would not speak to me for a month over this same thing Anabella, I can have respect for someone and still call their theory conspiracy and ridiculous. This is no different ..but thank you none the less for the warning given in good faith.
I know that the Sebiestor capsuleer population are not far from this thread to insult me endlessly, attack me directly, and address nothing of what I said, but I am not swayed from speaking the truth.
As strength goes.
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Ayallah
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
911
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Posted - 2017.05.09 16:09:29 -
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I think all of your place far too much value on the influence the CEWPA conflict has on the cutures, finances, and policies of the big four.
Perhaps you are being hopeful.
As strength goes.
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Ayallah
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
911
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Posted - 2017.05.09 16:15:53 -
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Challis Drant wrote:He does not have to do anything - he can sit there and claim that the threat of the Amarr is the reason he acts, and while that threat hangs over our head we cannot go forward. He can enact any legislation or give any decree and as long as he claims it is for the protection of the Republic You seem to have no understanding of his place in the Tribal Republic. He cannot act legislation or decree on anything, he has no vote and may only resolve disagreements.
The idea that he is the only or even the most aware of the threat of the Empire in the Tribal Order or even on the Tribal Council itself is inane and laughable.
As strength goes.
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Ayallah
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
914
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Posted - 2017.05.10 17:07:36 -
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All this goes under the assumption that the State would act because they wish to prevent a larger, more powerful Federation. They seem quite comfortable now under a larger, more powerful Federation so what for them would change but the amount of sabotage and preparation? I am not Caldari but I would think that they would simply build themselves up as more of a deterrent. Because this is what they have always done in face of a larger, more powerful Federation.
Or perhaps they would expand north and take the time to focus on the Guristas. Or secure Black Rise finally. ...I just do not think they would intervene in a war between others unless paid to do so. I see them profiting from all involved sides.
Trying to think like a Caldari depresses me though, so I will stop.
As strength goes.
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Ayallah
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
914
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Posted - 2017.05.10 17:12:47 -
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Losing Matar would make a Martyr.
It would cement their identity which is now suffering from peace and easy living.
As strength goes.
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Ayallah
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
916
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Posted - 2017.05.10 18:22:33 -
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Pieter Tuulinen wrote:There also seems to be a strong-desire to abandon democratic republicanism in favour of a model of government that fits more comfortably with the Matari's tribal roots. It happened three years ago.
As strength goes.
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Ayallah
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
919
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Posted - 2017.05.12 06:41:09 -
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No one survives without diplomacy.
As strength goes.
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