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CCP Falcon
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Posted - 2017.05.09 12:42:40 -
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After a slightly longer than anticipated downtime due to post deployment issues with our single sign on service, we are happy to announce that the 119.5 Release has been successfully deployed!
119.5 brings many changes to EVE Online, including Blood Raider Shipyards, the long awaited PLEX changes, Blood Raider capital ships, new visual effects for Suns, a new introduction video, Gifting via the New Eden Store, Alliance logos on citadels, new visuals for CONCORD frigates and cruisers, as well as the decomissioning of the old scanning system, and the new system being released from beta.
You can check out details of all these features on EVE Updates.
In addition to this, you can take a look at the full patch notes for 119.5 here, which gives an in depth breakdown of all the changes that have arrived with this release.
- For general discussion and feedback regarding 119.5, please use this thread.
- For issues with the release on PC see here.
- For discussion and issues related to mac, please use this thread.
CCP Falcon || EVE Universe Community Manager || @CCP_Falcon
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Careby
322
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Posted - 2017.05.09 13:43:02 -
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Where did you hide "Deliver to member" and "Move to hangar" for corporate assets? |
Mollie Mormon
Interstellar Consciousness
0
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Posted - 2017.05.09 13:59:50 -
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This PLEX scam by ccp is by far the sneakiest and most underhanded thing I've seen them do.
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Nuka-Cola Addict
Khanid - Industries
7
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Posted - 2017.05.09 14:05:45 -
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Mollie Mormon wrote: This PLEX scam by ccp is by far the sneakiest and most underhanded thing I've seen them do.
I have to agree. It says the "long awaited" PLEX changes.. but by whom? It's an obvious money grab.
Sadly it does little good because CCP wouldn't change their minds even if people started leaving in droves.
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Rivr Luzade
Kenshin. DARKNESS.
3028
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Posted - 2017.05.09 14:06:37 -
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The different colors for different damage levels on the fighters are a godsend.
UI Improvement Collective
My ridicule, heavy criticism and general pale outlook about your or CCP's ideas is nothing but an encouragement to prove me wrong. Give it a try.
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nat longshot
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
182
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Posted - 2017.05.09 14:18:21 -
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6 plex used to cost 104.95 us
now 5 plex and 1/2 cost 99.99 us.
so now it cost more to plex then it use to.
Great job ccp i see a burn jita with a bigger scale coming.
Ccp yet another way to **** of the player base.
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Blaad Booyashaka
Hotline K162 The Clown Car
7
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Posted - 2017.05.09 14:23:54 -
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PLEX scam + screwing sound settings.
Please try again. |
Orion Kerensky
Pure Avarice. Pandemic Legion
2
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Posted - 2017.05.09 14:27:49 -
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Looks like the conversion from old plex codes is borked as well, netting you considerably less then expected plex. |
Bjorn Tyrson
EVE University Ivy League
572
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Posted - 2017.05.09 14:30:22 -
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CCP I would like to say thank you for reducing the price of multiple pilot training certificates. I was trying to figure out how to do it with the new system and remembered that the certificates exist, and lo and behold they only cost 485 nuplex. it might only be a small amount, but it is appreciated. |
Axhind
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
311
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Posted - 2017.05.09 14:31:09 -
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Please revert the sound settings. The new ones are freaking terrible and considering how many sounds in eve are insanely high pitched it's necessary to be able to lower them individually.
PS: PLEX price change was slimy as hell. Maybe waste less money on Hillmars VR dreams that don't bring in money and less time on shitting on your actually paying customers. |
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Reyka Brennivin
The Darwin Foundation
1
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Posted - 2017.05.09 14:32:53 -
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Really looking for a Summer of Rage 2.0? Don't get me wrong, so well on track feature-wise, yet on this front you're just turning it into Star Trek Online?
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Jian Mira
Aliastra Gallente Federation
33
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Posted - 2017.05.09 14:34:22 -
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CCP who's bright idea was this?
AND how do you access the Plex Vault??
Have you see the price of PLEX now in the game....
I am docked in Yoma and i do a market value (this is from Kakakela) I am hoping JITA is cheaper but i bet it wont be!
2,700,000 per plex - so i need 500 for 30 days of playtime which means the price is now 1,350,000,000
WOW
CCP are you trying to kill the game or what ...
PLEX is just to expensive, before you changed it PLEX was about 1,150,000,000 or less...
Lets hope the price gets better...
I know the market does go up and down but this is ridiculous |
Axhind
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
313
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Posted - 2017.05.09 14:36:55 -
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Jian Mira wrote:CCP who's bright idea was this?
AND how do you access the Plex Vault??
Have you see the price of PLEX now in the game....
I am docked in Yoma and i do a market value (this is from Kakakela) I am hoping JITA is cheaper but i bet it wont be!
2,700,000 per plex - so i need 500 for 30 days of playtime which means the price is now 1,350,000,000
WOW
CCP are you trying to kill the game or what ...
PLEX is just to expensive, before you changed it PLEX was about 1,150,000,000 or less...
Lets hope the price gets better...
I know the market does go up and down but this is ridiculous
It's just the rush to scam people who are not paying attention. It should calm down with time. |
Xerxes Fehrnah
The Dysfunctionals Fidelas Constans
71
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Posted - 2017.05.09 14:37:23 -
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Played for a while using new sound settings. I don't like it. Please revert to the more detailed controls. The change made last night had in it a false assumption that was overlooked: that the sound volumes on these various sounds were all set appropriately by default in the game. It also batched together sounds which have distinctly different purposes.
This is a major quality of life downgrade. |
Duo Roman
Warp Nomads
37
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Posted - 2017.05.09 14:38:56 -
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nat longshot wrote:6 plex used to cost 104.95 us
now 5 plex and 1/2 cost 99.99 us.
so now it cost more to plex then it use to.
Great job ccp i see a burn jita with a bigger scale coming.
Ccp yet another way to **** of the player base.
Learn to math: 2860 New plex = 5.72 old plex Old price per plex: 104,95/6=17.49 New price per plex: 99.99/5.72=17.48
Technically, new plex is cheaper. |
MsBloodyMary
BloodyMary Deliveries
0
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Posted - 2017.05.09 14:39:35 -
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this (sound) patch is the greatest patch you've ever done. i always dreamed of having click-sounds while hovering over text/ships without the chance of shutting them off while keeping several important sounds (like warnings) active. especially, with my headset (which changes the volume of some frequences), i now can hear the click sounds even better.
thank you for that awesome patch and i'm looking forward for further improevements by ccp in the future |
Tsutomi Sakuma
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
11
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Posted - 2017.05.09 14:40:22 -
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Nuka-Cola Addict wrote:[quote=Mollie Mormon][b] What's next - being able to spend PLEX to finish your skill que early?
That feature already exists. |
Reyka Brennivin
The Darwin Foundation
1
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Posted - 2017.05.09 14:42:49 -
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I must be seeing it wrong. The 30 day PLEX rate @ 14.99) is gone? I now only see the 19.99/30 days? |
Mollie Mormon
Interstellar Consciousness
2
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Posted - 2017.05.09 14:44:56 -
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Reyka Brennivin wrote:I must be seeing it wrong. The 30 day PLEX rate @ 14.99) is gone? I now only see the 19.99/30 days? I think it's been $19.99 all along.
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Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
33279
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Posted - 2017.05.09 14:48:03 -
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"Move PLEX to vault" option doesnt work when PLEX is in citadel and I am in remote location. I had to go there and move plex to Vault by draggong it there.
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Eddie Thatch
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
2
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Posted - 2017.05.09 14:48:18 -
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Axhind wrote:Please revert the sound settings. The new ones are freaking terrible and considering how many sounds in eve are insanely high pitched it's necessary to be able to lower them individually.
+1 here - I LIKED being able to totally dampen station noises, as when i'm in station I'm trying to work out logistics, pricing etc, and the background noise is distracting. But having 'atmosphere' elsewhere (flying) is nice. Now I have to damped 'atmosphere' to get any thinking done in station & the rest of new eden is silent (no I don't play your music, sorry).
So, please give us an option to mute the station atmosphere separately from external. |
Reyka Brennivin
The Darwin Foundation
1
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Posted - 2017.05.09 14:48:45 -
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Mollie Mormon wrote:Reyka Brennivin wrote:I must be seeing it wrong. The 30 day PLEX rate @ 14.99) is gone? I now only see the 19.99/30 days? I think it's been $19.99 all along.
Been 14.99 according to records for ages. Going by the nitwits posting in GD (as opposed to here), I'm not the only one seeing weird things. Then again, might be something else going on. After all, transferring a character was technically no longer possible for Plex, but for the Tournament submission it was perfectly possible :P
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Asarian Yahnid
Relentless Terrorism Black Flag Syndicate.
8
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Posted - 2017.05.09 14:49:05 -
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Really? Getting rid of Advanced sound settings because they aren't simple enough? Ahem.... advanced... ADVANCED... why simplify the advanced settings, its counterintuitive. Will be playing eve on mute until they are brought back. Cant stand the stupid D-scan noise. First patch in a while I honestly hate. Good job CCP.
On the plex note: we all see what you are doing by increasing the prices, it would've gone a lot better if you were honest with your player base about increasing prices and then just done it. You being sneaky about it made it pretty bad. So good luck with that! I know quite a few people who wont be purchasing anything anymore.
Revert sound settings plz. thanks.
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Tsutomi Sakuma
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
11
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Posted - 2017.05.09 14:49:33 -
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Duo Roman wrote:nat longshot wrote:6 plex used to cost 104.95 us
now 5 plex and 1/2 cost 99.99 us.
so now it cost more to plex then it use to.
Great job ccp i see a burn jita with a bigger scale coming.
Ccp yet another way to **** of the player base. Learn to math: 2860 New plex = 5.72 old plex Old price per plex: 104,95/6=17.49 New price per plex: 99.99/5.72=17.48 Technically, new plex is cheaper.
Your math is sound.
But, the difference I see is that the economical choices do not begin at the $34.99 for 2 PLEX price point anymore (all packages of 2 PLEX and above were the same 'per PLEX' cost). Now, to maximize your dollar-to-ISK conversion, you have no choice but to spend $99.99.
In concept, not overly pleased - but working in the Middle East gives me more money than sense, so no real impact FOR ME. Lots of impact for Joe Bag'o'Donuts, though. (Did they release the new costs ahead of implementation, I wonder?) |
Tsutomi Sakuma
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
11
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Posted - 2017.05.09 14:52:51 -
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Reyka Brennivin wrote:Mollie Mormon wrote:Reyka Brennivin wrote:I must be seeing it wrong. The 30 day PLEX rate @ 14.99) is gone? I now only see the 19.99/30 days? I think it's been $19.99 all along. Been 14.99 according to records for ages. Going by the nitwits posting in GD (as opposed to here), I'm not the only one seeing weird things. Then again, might be something else going on. After all, transferring a character was technically no longer possible for Plex, but for the Tournament submission it was perfectly possible :P
Normal price for a PLEX prior to implementation of nuPLEX was not $14.99, as 2 of them cost $34.99. I'll wager a billion ISK on it. |
Neod Rixhet
Domini Canos Domini Canes
1
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Posted - 2017.05.09 14:55:06 -
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Down audio settings is dumb, only CCP like idea. back my audio settings |
Vladya Blade
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
4
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Posted - 2017.05.09 14:55:39 -
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Where is the old option to transfer time (plex) to another character? |
Reyka Brennivin
The Darwin Foundation
1
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Posted - 2017.05.09 14:56:23 -
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Vladya Blade wrote:Where is the old option to transfer time (plex) to another character?
Good one .. |
Duo Roman
Warp Nomads
37
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Posted - 2017.05.09 15:02:28 -
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Reyka Brennivin wrote:I must be seeing it wrong. The 30 day PLEX rate @ 14.99) is gone? I now only see the 19.99/30 days? 1 month game time is still 14.95. Regular Old Plex was never 14.95. |
Steijn
Quay Industries
1094
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Posted - 2017.05.09 15:05:54 -
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Whoevers idea it was to dumb down the sound options needs firing ASAP and the old sounds returning. Absolutely stupid idea. |
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Marek Kanenald
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2017.05.09 15:14:19 -
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The real question is why they just didn't make aurum tradable on the market an |
Sergey Hawk
The Sith Syndicate REFORD
194
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Posted - 2017.05.09 15:17:06 -
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Revert sound settings and ADD MORE sliders for Cricket, Wolf that howling in my scanner and other annoying crap.
Aura: "You need to be within range to execute this function."
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Mollie Mormon
Interstellar Consciousness
4
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Posted - 2017.05.09 15:18:22 -
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Starting a petition to have ccp show how much money they brought in on the first day of this campaign compared to the day before.
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Sarah Flynt
Flynt Enterprises Silent Infinity
291
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Posted - 2017.05.09 15:22:52 -
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Nana Skalski wrote:"Move PLEX to vault" option doesnt work when PLEX is in citadel and I am in remote location. I had to go there and move plex to Vault by draggong it there. Same with PLEX located in nullsec outposts.
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Blazemonger
Omni Galactic Central Omni Galactic Group
0
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Posted - 2017.05.09 15:22:56 -
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Dumbing down 'advanced audio settings' is just silly and a sign of not understanding your own product, it's features and your users. In fact audio needs much more flexibility IMO, starting with changing this back and allowing to select where sound goes instead of system settings/default..
Plex changes are an obvious ploy to get more income, I predict the arrival of 'go omega for a week for just 150PLEX' and similar options..
The new scanner interface is far from done and still quite infested with issues and plain old bugs. Removing the original system as an option is at best presumptuous.
Overall I think CCP should start focussing on stuff like making the UI more consistent and functional instead of 'oh, pretty' enhancements. But then again, it'a mostly about luring in new users and not making sure more people come in than leave to maintain the income level.
Oh and while you 'work out' the credit in the store I guess you are expecting/hoping we'll just put plex in to get what we need/want..
But hey.. what would you care right.. you know most of us will hang around anyway right? |
Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
4038
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Posted - 2017.05.09 15:25:35 -
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Reyka Brennivin wrote:Vladya Blade wrote:Where is the old option to transfer time (plex) to another character? Good one .. Yes, you can gift 30 days of Omega time.
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Commander Mongol
Moosearmy Test Alliance Please Ignore
0
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Posted - 2017.05.09 15:29:12 -
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Where are the fanfest ships?
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Ni Neith
Hedion University Amarr Empire
78
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Posted - 2017.05.09 15:35:46 -
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You broke the sound settings. It's unplayable now. Bye bye ccp. |
Erebus 'TheChin' Sundance
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
56
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Posted - 2017.05.09 15:40:52 -
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Post I made in the wrong section reguarding new audio settings.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6934520#post6934520
Erebus 'TheChin' Sundance wrote:Sorry, out of sheer shock I was unable to articulate anything useful for a bit their... I can not imagine in any way how the limited audio options just introduced have added or improved upon game play and would argue it has in fact had a profoundly negative effect on immersion and personal customization. The main issue for me was, and still is, the audio effect from cloaking/de cloaking being to loud compared to other module sounds, I made a post sometime ago on this issue. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6788154#post6788154 It was also good to be able to have more control over self warping and other people warping effect volume. I implore you to amend this dastardly deed.
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Quazided
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
34
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Posted - 2017.05.09 15:41:38 -
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Here's the original thread about the new sound changes:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=519006
Only 9% of players use the advanced sound settings according to CCP. It was costing them valuable Dev time to maintain it.
I have just muted everything now, so sick of all the rage inducing sounds that keep being added.. |
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Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
2054
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Posted - 2017.05.09 15:42:38 -
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Silly question, i bought 30 days omega time in new eden store with some converted aurum.
500 plex gone, where is the 30 days game time token? Its not been added to the account sub, and theres nothing new in the hanger... |
Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
33289
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Posted - 2017.05.09 15:45:44 -
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Crosi Wesdo wrote:Silly question, i bought 30 days omega time in new eden store with some converted aurum.
500 plex gone, where is the 30 days game time token? Its not been added to the account sub, and theres nothing new in the hanger... Have you used the Vault option like me? Welcome to the club.
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Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
2054
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Posted - 2017.05.09 15:46:54 -
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Nana Skalski wrote:Crosi Wesdo wrote:Silly question, i bought 30 days omega time in new eden store with some converted aurum.
500 plex gone, where is the 30 days game time token? Its not been added to the account sub, and theres nothing new in the hanger... Have you used the Vault option like me? Welcome to the club.
I have no idea what heppened....
Ive found the plex vault, but it shows only the remaining 185 plex, the 500 i spent on 30 days game time is gone, There is no 30 day token, there is no additional game time added to the account. |
Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
33289
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Posted - 2017.05.09 15:48:18 -
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Crosi Wesdo wrote:Nana Skalski wrote:Crosi Wesdo wrote:Silly question, i bought 30 days omega time in new eden store with some converted aurum.
500 plex gone, where is the 30 days game time token? Its not been added to the account sub, and theres nothing new in the hanger... Have you used the Vault option like me? Welcome to the club. I have no idea what heppened.... I moved PLEX to the PLEX vault and then clicked this icon there, where you can purchase Omega time, I pressed the buy button, the PLEX is gone but time was not extended.
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Steijn
Quay Industries
1097
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Posted - 2017.05.09 15:49:16 -
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Crosi Wesdo wrote:Silly question, i bought 30 days omega time in new eden store with some converted aurum.
500 plex gone, where is the 30 days game time token? Its not been added to the account sub, and theres nothing new in the hanger...
check character sheet / pilot services, do you have 500 plex at the top? |
Thamathar Owdasy
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2017.05.09 15:50:54 -
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Jian Mira wrote:CCP who's bright idea was this?
AND how do you access the Plex Vault??
Have you see the price of PLEX now in the game....
I am docked in Yoma and i do a market value (this is from Kakakela) I am hoping JITA is cheaper but i bet it wont be!
2,700,000 per plex - so i need 500 for 30 days of playtime which means the price is now 1,350,000,000
WOW
CCP are you trying to kill the game or what ...
PLEX is just to expensive, before you changed it PLEX was about 1,150,000,000 or less...
Lets hope the price gets better...
I know the market does go up and down but this is ridiculous
I would say this !!!
The price its just "#$% up ... I did pause for a while on February, come back the plex price did increase 200Mil, now a extra 50Mil ...
Lucky I did have 2 rdy to use (for main and alt) hope that in a 1 week or 2 weeks the price goes back to normal ... |
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
2054
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Posted - 2017.05.09 15:53:21 -
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Steijn wrote:Crosi Wesdo wrote:Silly question, i bought 30 days omega time in new eden store with some converted aurum.
500 plex gone, where is the 30 days game time token? Its not been added to the account sub, and theres nothing new in the hanger... check character sheet / pilot services, do you have 500 plex at the top?
Nope, i have 185 plex which is what i had left in the new eden store once i bought the 30 days... |
Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
33290
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Posted - 2017.05.09 15:55:33 -
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Steijn wrote:Crosi Wesdo wrote:Silly question, i bought 30 days omega time in new eden store with some converted aurum.
500 plex gone, where is the 30 days game time token? Its not been added to the account sub, and theres nothing new in the hanger... check character sheet / pilot services, do you have 500 plex at the top? I had 1000 PLEX and it is now 500, 500 was substracted from 1000. There is no confirmation anywhere that I bought Omega time, not even in account page. Nowhere. Just like it would went POOOF! Omega time stayed the same as it was.
I used the vault option to extend the Omega time.
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Steijn
Quay Industries
1097
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Posted - 2017.05.09 15:55:50 -
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Crosi Wesdo wrote:Steijn wrote:Crosi Wesdo wrote:Silly question, i bought 30 days omega time in new eden store with some converted aurum.
500 plex gone, where is the 30 days game time token? Its not been added to the account sub, and theres nothing new in the hanger... check character sheet / pilot services, do you have 500 plex at the top? Nope, i have 185 plex which is what i had left in the new eden store once i bought the 30 days...
hmm no idea then. I just turned 500 plex (aurum) into game time simply by adding it in the pilot services screen, i didnt buy it in the store first.
Have you tried re logging? |
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
2054
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Posted - 2017.05.09 15:57:44 -
[50] - Quote
Steijn wrote:Crosi Wesdo wrote:Steijn wrote:Crosi Wesdo wrote:Silly question, i bought 30 days omega time in new eden store with some converted aurum.
500 plex gone, where is the 30 days game time token? Its not been added to the account sub, and theres nothing new in the hanger... check character sheet / pilot services, do you have 500 plex at the top? Nope, i have 185 plex which is what i had left in the new eden store once i bought the 30 days... hmm no idea then. I just turned 500 plex (aurum) into game time simply by adding it in the pilot services screen, i didnt buy it in the store first. Have you tried re logging?
Yep, no redeemablew items, no record of it anywhere just as nana said
You know what? **** it, the new probe and scan window wont go small enough to sit where i used to have all that information. Its also **** for what i need it for. The settings on 18 characters have half reset. So **** it, i dont really care if i dont get another 30 days game time. |
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Fzhal
Collective Dynamics Brothers of Tangra
43
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Posted - 2017.05.09 16:06:23 -
[51] - Quote
The EVE database must be on life support. It took no less than 3 minutes for my ammo to make it into my ship hold... Took over 40 seconds for the Selected Item window to populate with the Dock/Approach buttons. Loading the Astrahus graphic took just as long. Timed docking time once clicking dock button in Selected Item window, 50 seconds when it is usually around 5-10.
Just got "Socket Closed". |
Princess Kristin
Weirdos From Another Planet
1
|
Posted - 2017.05.09 16:11:21 -
[52] - Quote
Nana Skalski wrote: There is no confirmation anywhere that I bought Omega time, not even in account page. Nowhere. Just like it would went POOOF! Omega time stayed the same as it was.
I used the vault option to extend the Omega time.
Same here..... wheres my game time gone? |
Deus Reliquit
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
0
|
Posted - 2017.05.09 16:12:03 -
[53] - Quote
How do I remove the Plex Vault from my Inventory screen when I'm out mining?!
Ever time I look at my inventory I see that damn plex spamming my inventory and I kind hide it or move it, it's like a parasite that won't go away... |
Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
33290
|
Posted - 2017.05.09 16:13:11 -
[54] - Quote
I wonder how long it will take CCP to answer all those support tickets now.
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Nantis
Caldari Scientific Research
0
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Posted - 2017.05.09 16:20:02 -
[55] - Quote
New Eden looks good to new stars, i hope aurora on the way, thanks. :) |
Feng Yotosashi
Yamato Inc.
8
|
Posted - 2017.05.09 16:29:48 -
[56] - Quote
Commander Mongol wrote:Where are the fanfest ships?
From the Patch Notes:
"Two new promotional ships have been released by CONCORD Aerospace. These ships will be provided first to capsuleers as a part of the Fanfest 2017 festivities:
-The Pacifier Covert Ops Frigate will be provided to all capsuleers who attended Fanfest 2017. -The Enforcer Force Recon Cruiser will be provided to all capsuleers who booked their Fanfest ticket before January 1st 2017.
After a limited period of timed exclusivity these ships will become available to other capsuleers in the future."
About new Plex, it's not back to the Steam Store yet.
"The carp and the cutting board" -
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DovHammer
MadHatters Industries
1
|
Posted - 2017.05.09 16:33:02 -
[57] - Quote
Why ingame plex still 30 days(?)
With the new Plex system you need 500 of them to play 30 days - well that's fair enough.
But - if I only can play (say) one week, why not be able to pay in ingame plex for a week(?)
/DovHammer |
Panther X
High Flyers Northern Coalition.
121
|
Posted - 2017.05.09 16:35:53 -
[58] - Quote
Tsutomi Sakuma wrote:Duo Roman wrote:nat longshot wrote:6 plex used to cost 104.95 us
now 5 plex and 1/2 cost 99.99 us.
so now it cost more to plex then it use to.
Great job ccp i see a burn jita with a bigger scale coming.
Ccp yet another way to **** of the player base. Learn to math: 2860 New plex = 5.72 old plex Old price per plex: 104,95/6=17.49 New price per plex: 99.99/5.72=17.48 Technically, new plex is cheaper. Your math is sound. But, the difference I see is that the economical choices do not begin at the $34.99 for 2 PLEX price point anymore (all packages of 2 PLEX and above were the same 'per PLEX' cost). Now, to maximize your dollar-to-ISK conversion, you have no choice but to spend $99.99. In concept, not overly pleased - but working in the Middle East gives me more money than sense, so no real impact FOR ME. Lots of impact for Joe Bag'o'Donuts, though. (Did they release the new costs ahead of implementation, I wonder?)
I will be happy to provide you a "GIFT PLEX" test person. Donate 10000000 plex to me, today. I will gladly tell you the results.
My Titan smells of rich Corinthian Leather...
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Flatliner
Skull 'n' Bones
4
|
Posted - 2017.05.09 16:36:14 -
[59] - Quote
You used to be able to buy 6 plex for around -ú86, and now if its 500 plex to one you now only get the amount equivilent to just over 5 plex, including the "free" plex... That shafted the buyer a bit didn't it. |
Christim Mesarthim
Orchestra of Electric Light
0
|
Posted - 2017.05.09 16:42:38 -
[60] - Quote
Argh no! The clicking noise is back every time you move over a word/action...and now you can't even turn it off? PLEASE remove the clicking - or give back the audio settings |
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Sinbaza
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
0
|
Posted - 2017.05.09 17:03:51 -
[61] - Quote
How to use plex to add game time? Buy plex on market, no option to use it. Click transfer to plex vault, nothing happens. |
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
3015
|
Posted - 2017.05.09 17:07:31 -
[62] - Quote
Orion Kerensky wrote:Looks like the conversion from old plex codes is borked as well, netting you considerably less then expected plex.
Yeah, I'm far short and a little concerned about it. |
Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
33295
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Posted - 2017.05.09 17:09:04 -
[63] - Quote
Ok, so now I know what is going on with Omega time bought. PLEX is taken and game time is in fact added, but it shows only in Account at "Subscription and payment: Account Expires".
Its not updating in game. CCP, fix it!
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Sinbaza
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2017.05.09 17:12:27 -
[64] - Quote
If you use 500 PLEX to extend game time, it takes the PLEX, but does not give you any game time!
Major bad! |
Bjorn Tyrson
EVE University Ivy League
572
|
Posted - 2017.05.09 17:13:12 -
[65] - Quote
DovHammer wrote:Why ingame plex still 30 days(?)
With the new Plex system you need 500 of them to play 30 days - well that's fair enough.
But - if I only can play (say) one week, why not be able to pay in ingame plex for a week(?)
/DovHammer
because we want titan alts to be resubbed one weekend at a time for every single battle. |
Reyka Brennivin
The Darwin Foundation
1
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Posted - 2017.05.09 17:16:46 -
[66] - Quote
Vincent Athena wrote:Reyka Brennivin wrote:Vladya Blade wrote:Where is the old option to transfer time (plex) to another character? Good one .. Yes, you can gift 30 days of Omega time.
How. The pre-patch option of transferring is either gone, or it has moved to a spot where I can't find it. That, or another glitch like disappearing plex :P |
Karl Jerr
Herzack Unit
128
|
Posted - 2017.05.09 17:37:08 -
[67] - Quote
Lost my Aurum, and no conversion has been made. Thanks CCP |
Sgt Ocker
What Corp is it
1357
|
Posted - 2017.05.09 17:39:23 -
[68] - Quote
Quote: the long awaited [url=http://updates.eveonline.com/card/uQS9r/plex-changes/]PLEX changes Seriously - Long Awaited? Oh and such a nice little money grab you've managed to set up for micro transactions..
240 plex = $10, reasonable sort of, until you enter the all new "Gold ammo coming soon" New Eden Store, where the cost of many popular skins starts at 250 plex. $50 for 10 Skill Extrtactors and $30 for 5. And my all time fav - $19.99 for 1 months game time using Plex OR $14.95 via "Add Game Time" in account management.
I know this has always been the case But this change just makes the cash grab so much more obvious and obnoxious due to neither the PLEX vault or Pilot Services (which funnily enough is more a second PLEX vault than it is anything else) giving the option to use account management (where one months game time is $5 cheaper)
Pilot Services Clone State Omega: You can add 30 days of Clone State Omega time to your account by using PLEX from your Plex Vault in the inventory. > This is not only very misleading, it is also not accurate - You don't need the PLEX vault located in the inventory if you're in the Pilot Services tab of your character sheet, you don't "NEED" the plex vault to sell plex on the market, you don't "need" the plex vault to access the NES.
Why did CCP feel it so important to add a second "plex vault" to the player inventory? Pilot Services already existed, all it needed was a name change (or not, Pilot Services is a much better name than PLEX vault). But then of course it also isn't as obtrusive as shoving it in a players face by adding as an inventory item.
Hey Devs, you took the time to duplicate how you interact with plex in game - How about adding a "Right Click" *Hide* option to the all but un-necessary one in the inventory.
My opinions are mine.
If you don't like them or disagree with me that's OK.- - - - - -
Just don't bother Hating - I don't care
It really is getting harder and harder to justify $23 a month for each sub.
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erik destroyer
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
9
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Posted - 2017.05.09 17:40:00 -
[69] - Quote
Damn so awsome
the stupid d-scan that is **** and block ur full screen whit a map is permanent now........... cannot even change back to the old one anymore........ wow then the new plex system who comes up whit these crazy stupid ideas no wonder that people will stop playing and start doing other things instead.
Is this a new sony game did u guys sell it to sony if so please let everybody know so we can stop spending money into an death game.
splitting up PLEX so it will cost people more money to buy them trying to make people having to buy more and pay more and many more things i wonder what is up next. While u at it just close the game for an couple months down rename it and redo everything delete just the whole game instead. Remodeling ships and tweek the game fine just don't kill it.
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Jay BuHoBHy
BRUTAL GENESIS GaNg BaNg TeAm
3
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Posted - 2017.05.09 17:44:28 -
[70] - Quote
Sinbaza wrote:If you use 500 PLEX to extend game time, it takes the PLEX, but does not give you any game time!
Major bad!
Yea the same here...CCP scam me...no time :( |
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Rainbow Prism Colorblind
United Electro-Magnetic Federation Business Alliance of Manufacturers and Miners
6
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Posted - 2017.05.09 17:45:22 -
[71] - Quote
Dscan / probe scan can be detached from the large map and used as before. Check how to use the map before start screming :P |
Rainbow Prism Colorblind
United Electro-Magnetic Federation Business Alliance of Manufacturers and Miners
6
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Posted - 2017.05.09 17:46:50 -
[72] - Quote
Jay BuHoBHy wrote:Sinbaza wrote:If you use 500 PLEX to extend game time, it takes the PLEX, but does not give you any game time!
Major bad! Yea the same here...CCP scam me...no time :( Also how we are going to Donate 30 days time to our other characters according to the new system?
Same isue for me, spent new plex item, no added game time. But i will gvie CCP time and hope they fix it and add the time they owe me later on.
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Baboo Yagu
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
18
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Posted - 2017.05.09 17:48:46 -
[73] - Quote
What the **** have you done to the audio options? Why the hell did you feel the need to gimp them to the point of barely being useful? They didn't need 'simplifying', they worked perfectly well before. Ever heard of the old adage "If it ain't broke, then don't fix it'?
Of all the games, I never thought EVE would succumb to the dreaded dumbing down bug. Son, I am disappoint! |
Jay BuHoBHy
BRUTAL GENESIS GaNg BaNg TeAm
3
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Posted - 2017.05.09 17:49:00 -
[74] - Quote
Also if you buy a Plex in another station/system and from Assets you click on Move to Vault is not moving anything |
erik destroyer
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
9
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Posted - 2017.05.09 17:49:11 -
[75] - Quote
CCP Falcon wrote:After a slightly longer than anticipated downtime due to post deployment issues with our single sign on service, we are happy to announce that the 119.5 Release has been successfully deployed! [img]http://web.ccpgamescdn.com/newssystem/media/72090/1/119.5.png[/img] 119.5 brings many changes to EVE Online, including Blood Raider Shipyards, the long awaited PLEX changes, Blood Raider capital ships, new visual effects for Suns, a new introduction video, Gifting via the New Eden Store, Alliance logos on citadels, new visuals for CONCORD frigates and cruisers, as well as the decomissioning of the old scanning system, and the new system being released from beta. You can check out details of all these features on EVE Updates.In addition to this, you can take a look at the full patch notes for 119.5 here, which gives an in depth breakdown of all the changes that have arrived with this release.
- For general discussion and feedback regarding 119.5, please use this thread.
- For issues with the release on PC see here.
- For discussion and issues related to mac, please use this thread.
The new money system is out look the wolf comes out to rob u I wonder where the options to change things have went for several things The new D-Scan isn't working properly the plex buying and everything is messed up oww wait lets add some more things see if we can get more complaints from players damn that new system we put is working awsome look they buy even more plex now and they don't now the system ain't working sweet we just pulled the Biggest scamm of in gaming |
Karina Shiar
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2017.05.09 17:59:01 -
[76] - Quote
Why has plex been removed as an option to transfer chars? |
Artemis Ellery Sazas
Shock and Awe Inc.
103
|
Posted - 2017.05.09 18:02:44 -
[77] - Quote
Added game time with Aurum converted "new PLEX" to my account through the Character Sheet and worked fine.
However, having major issues with manufacturing. All the input materials are there, but when I use a bpc it can not find the materials to run the job. Settings have been checked and double checked. Job works with one character, same exact job with a second character there are no input materials available. Both have proper skills, etc.... |
Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
33295
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Posted - 2017.05.09 18:26:12 -
[78] - Quote
Rainbow Prism Colorblind wrote:Jay BuHoBHy wrote:Sinbaza wrote:If you use 500 PLEX to extend game time, it takes the PLEX, but does not give you any game time!
Major bad! Yea the same here...CCP scam me...no time :( Also how we are going to Donate 30 days time to our other characters according to the new system? Same isue for me, spent new plex item, no added game time. But i will gvie CCP time and hope they fix it and add the time they owe me later on. Game time is added, but it dont update in game, only in account management page under Account Expires. It shows correct date there.
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Rivr Luzade
Kenshin. DARKNESS.
3028
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Posted - 2017.05.09 18:26:42 -
[79] - Quote
Why do I only have 828 PLEX? Before the DT, I had 1 PLEX in a container as well as 5500 AUR in my NEX balance. Shouldn't that equate to more than 1000 PLEX (even under the presumption that you ignored 1000 AUR from the balance)?
UI Improvement Collective
My ridicule, heavy criticism and general pale outlook about your or CCP's ideas is nothing but an encouragement to prove me wrong. Give it a try.
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Rainbow Prism Colorblind
United Electro-Magnetic Federation Business Alliance of Manufacturers and Miners
6
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Posted - 2017.05.09 18:35:01 -
[80] - Quote
Nana Skalski wrote:Rainbow Prism Colorblind wrote:Jay BuHoBHy wrote:Sinbaza wrote:If you use 500 PLEX to extend game time, it takes the PLEX, but does not give you any game time!
Major bad! Yea the same here...CCP scam me...no time :( Also how we are going to Donate 30 days time to our other characters according to the new system? Same isue for me, spent new plex item, no added game time. But i will gvie CCP time and hope they fix it and add the time they owe me later on. Game time is added, but it dont update in game, only in account management page under Account Expires. It shows correct date there.
Ah thank you, Just cheek account manergment settings and its state correct time there. So I feel a little calmer now, still I hope the fix th visual effects inside the game soon. |
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Mona Me
One MB Again
10
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Posted - 2017.05.09 18:39:04 -
[81] - Quote
Karina Shiar wrote: In addition, I have no audio problems cause I learned to turn audio off due to the fact you butchered it ages ago.
Same here.
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Andre Iv
Terra Supernova
1
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Posted - 2017.05.09 18:45:31 -
[82] - Quote
Terrible patch. That annoying "clicking" mouse sound back with no ability to deactivate it without turninng off all interface sound CPU usage grew up. Played last year with 4 character with no problem with all accounts online, after patch even with two windows my notebook is heating to 80C (even on minimal) The only useful change is contracts time rised to 4 weeks.
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Shadowlance
Shadow Wings.
6
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Posted - 2017.05.09 18:54:46 -
[83] - Quote
Why additional audio options were removed? I could understand when something is not implemented because it's hard to code etc., BUT why remove something that already existed and wasn't broken?
And feedback about d-scan here |
Brigadine Ferathine
The Valiant Vanguard The Volition Cult
181
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Posted - 2017.05.09 19:11:11 -
[84] - Quote
Eve is dying |
March rabbit
Mosquito Squadron The-Culture
2169
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Posted - 2017.05.09 19:16:41 -
[85] - Quote
On a positive note: the something-diplomatic shuttle was remodeled and looks strange nicely
The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
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Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon Lost Obsession
1662
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Posted - 2017.05.09 19:32:16 -
[86] - Quote
So real money price for plex has just risen by >15 % in Euro.
Really? not smooth and not cool.
Edit...even more as you have that 440+60 free joke. Do you think we can not calculate that?
TunDraGon is recruiting!
"Also, your boobs [:o] " -á
CCP Eterne, 2012
"When in doubt...make a di++k joke."-áRobin Williams - RIP
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Mokada Akiga
Bah Weep Grah Na Weep Mini Bahm
4
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Posted - 2017.05.09 19:32:23 -
[87] - Quote
nice way to screw us all over on the price of plex jackasses! I screen shotted the old prices as I predicted you would do this. We all should boycott CCP and EVE for 3 months, cancel our subs now and say here screw us, well screw you. |
waltari
High Flyers Northern Coalition.
22
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Posted - 2017.05.09 19:35:31 -
[88] - Quote
Mollie Mormon wrote: This PLEX scam by ccp is by far the sneakiest and most underhanded thing I've seen them do.
Working as intended
btw add some global mute jita local all the "new" PLEX scams are shitting my screen ffs |
RankOutsider
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
42
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Posted - 2017.05.09 19:36:49 -
[89] - Quote
What happened to donating game time to other characters? I used to use a jita Alt to buy old-time PLEX and then donate that to alts on my other accounts, I don't see how to do that am I missing something? |
rulewarrior
Mind Collapse Sanity is for the Weak
1
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Posted - 2017.05.09 19:40:29 -
[90] - Quote
Playing with 2 or more clients open whenever I tab out to another client the sound of the first client plays like a dawm helicopter after patch
also my clients are laggy AF since the patch hit. this should be fixed asap. |
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DovHammer
MadHatters Industries
1
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Posted - 2017.05.09 19:46:04 -
[91] - Quote
Bjorn Tyrson wrote:DovHammer wrote:Why ingame plex still 30 days(?)
With the new Plex system you need 500 of them to play 30 days - well that's fair enough.
But - if I only can play (say) one week, why not be able to pay in ingame plex for a week(?)
/DovHammer because we want titan alts to be resubbed one weekend at a time for every single battle.
Ah - can 'see' that option, from my side it's rl work and life. |
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
6830
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Posted - 2017.05.09 19:55:33 -
[92] - Quote
Artemis Ellery Sazas wrote:Added game time with Aurum converted "new PLEX" to my account through the Character Sheet and worked fine.
However, having major issues with manufacturing. All the input materials are there, but when I use a bpc it can not find the materials to run the job. Settings have been checked and double checked. Job works with one character, same exact job with a second character there are no input materials available. Both have proper skills, etc.... Check the input location, on the right.
Most common problem. |
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
6830
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Posted - 2017.05.09 19:57:46 -
[93] - Quote
Sinbaza wrote:How to use plex to add game time? Buy plex on market, no option to use it. Click transfer to plex vault, nothing happens.
Jay BuHoBHy wrote:Also if you buy a Plex in another station/system and from Assets you click on Move to Vault is not moving anything Remote move with vault not supported. |
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
6830
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Posted - 2017.05.09 20:00:04 -
[94] - Quote
Sinbaza wrote:If you use 500 PLEX to extend game time, it takes the PLEX, but does not give you any game time!
Not good! Check account management page. It should show there.
In-game is likely a caching issue. Try flushing your cache, and / or wait until after the next downtime.
I'm sure CCP will address this soon. |
xpl0de
Caldari State
42
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Posted - 2017.05.09 20:00:19 -
[95] - Quote
Pretty soon we will be able to pay for skills with plex. Way to go CCP
-10.0 since the Womb
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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
6830
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Posted - 2017.05.09 20:01:29 -
[96] - Quote
xpl0de wrote:Pretty soon we will be able to pay for skills with plex. Way to go CCP You already could, by selling PLEX and buying skill injectors. |
Sitting Bull Lakota
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
314
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Posted - 2017.05.09 20:03:41 -
[97] - Quote
Plex price has gone up at CCP's store Now, I'm not sure if CCP is aware of this or not, but they're not a utilities company. If the price goes up, most of us won't just grit our teeth and pay more, because we need it.
My limited understanding of economics makes me think that if you raise your price, you'll sell less.
Also, you guys need to get a hold of your marketing department. EvE has an image of being a brutal, but fair, game. Your Plex page makes it look like it's pay2win. In case you weren't aware, pay2win image hurts games. |
Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
21051
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Posted - 2017.05.09 20:22:18 -
[98] - Quote
im turning the sound off again and its stayin off till ye get CCP WhiteNoiseTrash back.
that guy was a) the most transparent and fourth coming dev to interact with the community by far and importantly b) the guy that made the sentence "eve has sound" a statement and not a sarky one liner. we asked for those sliders lads, and ye hired a specialist to give them to us, why remove them!?
not even going to go near the plex thing but im never a fan of price hikes.
stars are stunning though so its not all bad.
Murderers of Negotiable Motivations
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Chan'aar
State War Academy Caldari State
104
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Posted - 2017.05.09 20:25:10 -
[99] - Quote
RankOutsider wrote:What happened to donating game time to other characters? I used to use a jita Alt to buy old-time PLEX and then donate that to alts on my other accounts, I don't see how to do that am I missing something?
This.
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CopyCatz
Sienar Fleet Systems
85
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Posted - 2017.05.09 20:48:47 -
[100] - Quote
Bowhead blood raider skin was not added to market... |
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Agent 5B
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
41
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Posted - 2017.05.09 20:52:33 -
[101] - Quote
Duo Roman wrote:nat longshot wrote:6 plex used to cost 104.95 us
now 5 plex and 1/2 cost 99.99 us.
so now it cost more to plex then it use to.
Great job ccp i see a burn jita with a bigger scale coming.
Ccp yet another way to **** of the player base. Learn to math: 2860 New plex = 5.72 old plex Old price per plex: 104,95/6=17.49 New price per plex: 99.99/5.72=17.48 Technically, new plex is cheaper.
Not if you factor in the time it will take to figure out what is going on
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Jahweh
The Scope Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2017.05.09 20:53:59 -
[102] - Quote
Hello??? CCP???
A LOT of angry ppl here, aint it!!!
I hope this release backfires, because you deserve it.
Correct it and ppl might stick with it.
Might wanna fire a few CCP employees aswell.
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Axhind
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
324
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Posted - 2017.05.09 21:13:59 -
[103] - Quote
Jahweh wrote:Hello??? CCP???
A LOT of angry ppl here, aint it!!!
I hope this release backfires, because you deserve it.
Correct it and ppl might stick with it.
Might wanna fire a few CCP employees aswell.
119.16 next week plz.
Classic CCP. Let's just ignore the morons. After all if they had any brains they wouldn't be giving us money. Next week, even more annoying sounds that can't be turned off without muting the entire PC. To simplify sound management, of course. |
Christina Carter
Moonfire Industries
2
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Posted - 2017.05.09 21:24:18 -
[104] - Quote
It's not about the price going up on plex or the fact that plex can no longer be used to do character transfers. For me it is simply that CCP implemented these changes without notifying the Eve community. It was done in a disgustingly sneaky way which has broken the trust I had in CCP.
I'm a person that believes in being forthcoming and letting the chips fall where they may. Had CCP been as forthcoming and just gave us notice that these are the new changes to pricing and use of PLEX, I would be ok with it but now I have to act on principal. I have already unsubbed 2 of my 6 accts and I feel that our relationship has come to an end.
I remember that summer of rage. I was part of the protest. I remember how CCP admitted to making mistakes and going forward was going to have more open communication with the player base. However, it seems that CCP has fallen back into it's old ways of not caring about how we are affected or treating us with the respect the we, the players, deserve. Simply put, don't bite the hand that feeds you.
I have seen the changes that have been implemented over the years concerning CCP's business model for Eve and I can no longer support the actions of CCP. When a company takes actions that even look sneaky or dishonest towards it's player base, then I have reevaluate my continued participation in that business as a customer.
I have chosen to vote with my wallet and place my support elsewhere. I have to follow my principals and quite frankly, I no longer trust CCP.
Communications Closed! |
Major Xadi
Mercenary Logistics Ltd.
88
|
Posted - 2017.05.09 21:26:38 -
[105] - Quote
Me and my 4 subs say... Give Us The Sound Customization Back!!!
The suns look great. I'll trade the new graphics for the sound customization, however. |
Mollie Mormon
Interstellar Consciousness
10
|
Posted - 2017.05.09 21:27:08 -
[106] - Quote
Christina Carter wrote:It's not about the price going up on plex or the fact that plex can no longer be used to do character transfers. For me it is simply that CCP implemented these changes without notifying the Eve community. It was done in a disgustingly sneaky way which has broken the trust I had in CCP.
I'm a person that believes in being forthcoming and letting the chips fall where they may. Had CCP been as forthcoming and just gave us notice that these are the new changes to pricing and use of PLEX, I would be ok with it but now I have to act on principal. I have already unsubbed 2 of my 6 accts and I feel that our relationship has come to an end.
I remember that summer of rage. I was part of the protest. I remember how CCP admitted to making mistakes and going forward was going to have more open communication with the player base. However, it seems that CCP has fallen back into it's old ways of not caring about how we are affected or treating us with the respect the we, the players, deserve. Simply put, don't bite the hand that feeds you.
I have seen the changes that have been implemented over the years concerning CCP's business model for Eve and I can no longer support the actions of CCP. When a company takes actions that even look sneaky or dishonest towards it's player base, then I have reevaluate my continued participation in that business as a customer.
I have chosen to vote with my wallet and place my support elsewhere. I have to follow my principals and quite frankly, I no longer trust CCP.
Communications Closed! =ƒÆû=ƒÆû=ƒÆû Very well put. =ƒÆû=ƒÆû=ƒÆû
Didn't see that coming =ƒÉç
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Jay BuHoBHy
BRUTAL GENESIS GaNg BaNg TeAm
3
|
Posted - 2017.05.09 21:37:06 -
[107] - Quote
Christina Carter wrote:It's not about the price going up on plex or the fact that plex can no longer be used to do character transfers. For me it is simply that CCP implemented these changes without notifying the Eve community. It was done in a disgustingly sneaky way which has broken the trust I had in CCP.
I'm a person that believes in being forthcoming and letting the chips fall where they may. Had CCP been as forthcoming and just gave us notice that these are the new changes to pricing and use of PLEX, I would be ok with it but now I have to act on principal. I have already unsubbed 2 of my 6 accts and I feel that our relationship has come to an end.
I remember that summer of rage. I was part of the protest. I remember how CCP admitted to making mistakes and going forward was going to have more open communication with the player base. However, it seems that CCP has fallen back into it's old ways of not caring about how we are affected or treating us with the respect the we, the players, deserve. Simply put, don't bite the hand that feeds you.
I have seen the changes that have been implemented over the years concerning CCP's business model for Eve and I can no longer support the actions of CCP. When a company takes actions that even look sneaky or dishonest towards it's player base, then I have reevaluate my continued participation in that business as a customer.
I have chosen to vote with my wallet and place my support elsewhere. I have to follow my principals and quite frankly, I no longer trust CCP.
Communications Closed!
+1 |
IHaveCandyGetInTheVan69
Angry Mustellid Lost Obsession
518
|
Posted - 2017.05.09 21:55:39 -
[108] - Quote
I'm not sure what everyone is complaining about.
119.5 Looks really good, obviously there are still a lot features that are missing / broken but even the most cursory of unit tests should pick that up. I suggest we tidy up and in a few weeks this should be good to pass to QA. |
Charley Varrick
State War Academy Caldari State
52
|
Posted - 2017.05.09 21:56:33 -
[109] - Quote
Christina Carter wrote:It's not about the price going up on plex or the fact that plex can no longer be used to do character transfers. For me it is simply that CCP implemented these changes without notifying the Eve community. It was done in a disgustingly sneaky way which has broken the trust I had in CCP.
I'm a person that believes in being forthcoming and letting the chips fall where they may. Had CCP been as forthcoming and just gave us notice that these are the new changes to pricing and use of PLEX, I would be ok with it but now I have to act on principal. I have already unsubbed 2 of my 6 accts and I feel that our relationship has come to an end.
I remember that summer of rage. I was part of the protest. I remember how CCP admitted to making mistakes and going forward was going to have more open communication with the player base. However, it seems that CCP has fallen back into it's old ways of not caring about how we are affected or treating us with the respect the we, the players, deserve. Simply put, don't bite the hand that feeds you.
I have seen the changes that have been implemented over the years concerning CCP's business model for Eve and I can no longer support the actions of CCP. When a company takes actions that even look sneaky or dishonest towards it's player base, then I have reevaluate my continued participation in that business as a customer.
I have chosen to vote with my wallet and place my support elsewhere. I have to follow my principals and quite frankly, I no longer trust CCP.
Communications Closed!
Speaking with your wallet is the only language they will understand. Unfortunately it will take a couple months of cancelled subscriptions before they will get a clue.
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LeQuint Dickey
Task Force 20
1
|
Posted - 2017.05.09 22:08:19 -
[110] - Quote
I have a question. I like cold Coors light. |
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Lulu Lunette
Savage Moon Society
1591
|
Posted - 2017.05.09 22:11:22 -
[111] - Quote
I love the new suns CCP very nice! I don't think I'll get to run any of the new Blood Raiders content anytime soon. Only other thing and it's my one complaint - the PLEX vault should be somewhere like the wallet instead of the inventory screen. Thanks for everything you do!
@lunettelulu7
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Milla Goodpussy
Federal Navy Academy
565
|
Posted - 2017.05.09 22:15:02 -
[112] - Quote
these moans and groans although very valid will do nothing. ccp isn't changing a thing. you are not going anywhere matter of fact they're laughing at you
so pay and just shush
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Ebanezer Scrooge
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2017.05.09 22:27:31 -
[113] - Quote
just logged and seen the update. 500 plex is what it takes to add game time. They selling you 440 +60 free for 19.99 unfortunately to me this smells, and really bad to boot. I see people calling it a scam, it looks closer to what might be considered something else. |
Drigo Segvian
Black Fox Marauders
27
|
Posted - 2017.05.09 22:30:36 -
[114] - Quote
Everyone should just cool down. I just checked prices and by my calc it is fairly the same as before.
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Nuka-Cola Addict
Khanid - Industries
11
|
Posted - 2017.05.09 22:33:31 -
[115] - Quote
Drigo Segvian wrote:Everyone should just cool down. I just checked prices and by my calc it is fairly the same as before.
Working As Intended. |
Algarion Getz
Aideron Corp
336
|
Posted - 2017.05.09 22:44:12 -
[116] - Quote
Andre Iv wrote:Terrible patch. That annoying "clicking" mouse sound back with no ability to deactivate it without turninng off all interface sound CPU usage grew up. Played last year with 4 character with no problem with all accounts online, after patch even with two windows my notebook is heating to 80C (even on minimal) The only useful change is contracts time rised to 4 weeks.
I have the same problem!
On my old laptop, Win10 x64 Home, 4 EVE clients running Before the patch: CPU usage 40-50% After the patch: CPU usage 80-90% The graphics settings have not changed.
Also, why would you remove options from the audio tab??? Has anyone ever complained that there are too many options?
Also, the launcher keeps forgeting accounts again. |
Jasmin Pearl
GFL
0
|
Posted - 2017.05.09 23:00:52 -
[117] - Quote
holy fk CCP you guys suck , you removed perfectly good scanning system, have both if some dont like the new one like my self, but removing sound options, OMFG you guys
i will never eve ever sub my accounts with you guys ever rather spend the cash on beer and tacos! |
Duo Roman
Warp Nomads
39
|
Posted - 2017.05.09 23:11:37 -
[118] - Quote
Agent 5B wrote: Not if you factor in the time it will take to figure out what is going on
Yeah, multiply and divide numbers like these takes days |
Mona Me
One MB Again
10
|
Posted - 2017.05.09 23:13:40 -
[119] - Quote
It seems to me there is a bigger problem than this latest patch. I have a simple question. Around 2010, the log on numbers were around 50k acct's online on a weekend. What happened to the game that it has not achieved those numbers again till the launch/patch of the alpha acct's and even that was short lived? Something both CCP and the player base should be asking before anyone quits. (again)
Or is it just me |
Karina Shiar
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2017.05.09 23:15:11 -
[120] - Quote
I am not entirely certain why people is saying the price went up?
Before this, if I bought 1 plex from CCP's homepage it cost me 19,99 Euro If I buy 1 plex now from their homepage it cost me 19,99 euro.
But If I bought from a 3rd part retailer I could either buy 1 plex for 19,99 USD or 2 plex for 34,99 USD(17,49 USD each)
But like everyone else I am annoyed they removed paying transfer cost with plex. This means I will not sell characters over the bazaar any longer.
In addition to the players. HOLY HELL. Are you insane with new plex prices. I could buy 1 month for 1-1,1b(2m-2,2m isk/plex) before this patch. Now they go for 1,35b(2,7m isk/plex)
Basically, mean I go back to paying 14,95 euro per month instead until price drops. |
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Slim Thicc
Laphroaig Inc.
5
|
Posted - 2017.05.09 23:31:50 -
[121] - Quote
traffic control seems sluggish. having long delays loading planets in Planet View, switching ships, and leaving ships. |
Joia Crenca
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
372
|
Posted - 2017.05.10 00:04:03 -
[122] - Quote
I'd give things a couple of days before reacting to market PLEX prices. Let the dust settle, see where supply/demand really start to go.
I like the PLEX vault, but I wish I could move it to my Neocom, rather than having it in my hanger. Some may like it one way, some another. Would an option between the two states be do-able? |
Dimitrios Bekas
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
25
|
Posted - 2017.05.10 00:12:56 -
[123] - Quote
Steijn wrote:Whoevers idea it was to dumb down the sound options needs firing ASAP and the old sounds returning. Absolutely stupid idea.
THIS !!!!!!!
https://puu.sh/vyBmR/be9766cf4d.jpg
I put hours into supertuning the advanced settings, sliders left to right to see what affects what exactly...and there was nearly no Information about lowering those advanced settings announced.
And i normally read everything that is upcoming in the future updates...
So the REASON why you did it according to the Patch Notes...
****The advanced audio settings menu has been simplified to offer a more experience.***
I needed to google that word and translate it to german, and even after trying to "implement" all the 8 or 9 different things it COULD mean....i don-¦t understand it.
IF it has something to do with "Performance/SeverLoad/Compability" Issues, than sell it to us like that.... But don-¦t use extraterrestrial words like "streamlined" when you try to sell us rotten potatoes :D
Normally you should have Data about how many Pilots have advanced settings personalized to their needs...from the massive complains in this Forum, it looks like....ENOUGH ! Whoever was in charge to make that Decision and forced it into this Update,...*PENTA-FACEPALM* ^^
Besides that, awesome Update, awesome Work, thanks...
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Ocean Ormand
Bagel and Lox
60
|
Posted - 2017.05.10 00:21:14 -
[124] - Quote
It would have cost you nothing to leave the old directional and probe scanners in the game. IMO the new scanners make quality of life much worse. Why aggravate your players by making their game play worse when all you had to do was leave the old stuff as it was? |
AFK Hauler
State War Academy
1212
|
Posted - 2017.05.10 00:44:46 -
[125] - Quote
Remote add PLEX to vault - not working (as intended?)
All my inter-account PLEX trading just became a huge PITA! Now I need one alt from each account to go to the trade hub and manually put the stupid PLEX I just traded to them in the stupid PLEX vault.
Price/PLEX is not really as much of an issue as having to spend more for the same thing. Now I'm forced to over purchase PLEX for 30 days game time. I'll have extra PLEX that will sit around and never get used that I had to pay extra for. Don't tell me to sell it for ISK because I need it for game time, you know, the reason why I bought it...
I've never heard of having to pay MORE for a 14 year old game than when it was released... And they say EVE players are the smartest player base. Laughable if this keeps up. What a bunch of dolts to keep paying into the greed monster. EVE, why can't I quit you dammit? Take my money...
If you are going to screw over our game like this, then please do something wise... Add an option for subscription secondary training. I will not keep going to the trade hub once a month to get my PLEX trades - period. I have to many alts to bother with that much time sink. I'd be tripping for 4 or 5 days of the month to get it all done just to do it again next month. - LAME -
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Lord Toecutter
No.Mercy Triumvirate.
4
|
Posted - 2017.05.10 00:54:53 -
[126] - Quote
The new scanning system is ****!
CCP you are ****! |
Slim Thicc
Laphroaig Inc.
6
|
Posted - 2017.05.10 01:00:36 -
[127] - Quote
ARE YOU F-ING KIDDING ME?
IF I WANT TO HEAR WORMHOLE STATUS I HAVE TO HEAR STATION SOUNDS???
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Nuka-Cola Addict
Khanid - Industries
12
|
Posted - 2017.05.10 01:17:04 -
[128] - Quote
Karina Shiar wrote:I am not entirely certain why people is saying the price went up?
Before this, if I bought 1 plex from CCP's homepage it cost me 19,99 Euro If I buy 1 plex now from their homepage it cost me 19,99 euro.
You get 500 for that price, but it is 60 "free", so technically you pay for 440... which is less value than before. The only value you get is if you purchase the 99.99 option or higher now.
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Algathas
Wraithguard. The Wraithguard.
82
|
Posted - 2017.05.10 01:24:46 -
[129] - Quote
Karina Shiar wrote:I am not entirely certain why people is saying the price went up?
Before this, if I bought 1 plex from CCP's homepage it cost me 19,99 Euro If I buy 1 plex now from their homepage it cost me 19,99 euro.
If you look at the previous plex / $ of multiple plex packages vs the new ones, you get less plex/$ now than before by quite a bit. |
Duo Roman
Warp Nomads
39
|
Posted - 2017.05.10 01:26:08 -
[130] - Quote
AFK Hauler wrote:Price/PLEX is not really as much of an issue as having to spend more for the same thing. Now I'm forced to over purchase PLEX for 30 days game time. I'll have extra PLEX that will sit around and never get used that I had to pay extra for. Don't tell me to sell it for ISK because I need it for game time, you know, the reason why I bought it...
If you are buying plex with USD to convert to game time, you are wasting money. You should buy "game time" instead, much cheaper. |
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AFK Hauler
State War Academy
1212
|
Posted - 2017.05.10 01:45:23 -
[131] - Quote
Duo Roman wrote:AFK Hauler wrote:Price/PLEX is not really as much of an issue as having to spend more for the same thing. Now I'm forced to over purchase PLEX for 30 days game time. I'll have extra PLEX that will sit around and never get used that I had to pay extra for. Don't tell me to sell it for ISK because I need it for game time, you know, the reason why I bought it...
If you are buying plex with USD to convert to game time, you are wasting money. You should buy "game time" instead, much cheaper.
Just looked to see if things had changed... Nope. Still cannot buy "game time" for multi character training. Player services for $19.95 is available, but that's more expensive than bulk purchasing PLEX - at a higher overall cost now. So the way I've been doing it is less expensive. |
Algathas
Wraithguard. The Wraithguard.
82
|
Posted - 2017.05.10 02:10:07 -
[132] - Quote
AFK Hauler wrote:Duo Roman wrote:AFK Hauler wrote:Price/PLEX is not really as much of an issue as having to spend more for the same thing. Now I'm forced to over purchase PLEX for 30 days game time. I'll have extra PLEX that will sit around and never get used that I had to pay extra for. Don't tell me to sell it for ISK because I need it for game time, you know, the reason why I bought it...
If you are buying plex with USD to convert to game time, you are wasting money. You should buy "game time" instead, much cheaper. Just looked to see if things had changed... Nope. Still cannot buy "game time" for multi character training. Player services for $19.95 is available, but that's more expensive than bulk purchasing PLEX - at a higher overall cost now. So the way I've been doing it is less expensive.
For 485 plex in the New Eden Store you can get a multi training certificate, which is cheaper than it used to be. |
Sethyrh Nakrar
Drake Mining and Acquisition Inc.
28
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Posted - 2017.05.10 02:17:26 -
[133] - Quote
I like the new stars. But. There is a weird glitch with the animation when you warp away from a star. Not even my Prowler is that fast in warp.
I like the glowingeffect on the Prowler. The "new" Diplomatic shuttle too.
Its laggy again. Especially in stations and at jumpgates.
Why the heck did you dump down the soundsettings? It just makes no sense at all.
The PLEX-change was just stupid. Sorry, but its true. It messed the community up, it messed the market up and it will keep messing around for a fething looong time.....
And PLEASE do something about the client. Its not funny anymore when it is getting dysfunctional with every major patch....
Praise the Omnissiah!
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AFK Hauler
State War Academy
1212
|
Posted - 2017.05.10 02:17:46 -
[134] - Quote
Algathas wrote:AFK Hauler wrote:Duo Roman wrote:AFK Hauler wrote:Price/PLEX is not really as much of an issue as having to spend more for the same thing. Now I'm forced to over purchase PLEX for 30 days game time. I'll have extra PLEX that will sit around and never get used that I had to pay extra for. Don't tell me to sell it for ISK because I need it for game time, you know, the reason why I bought it...
If you are buying plex with USD to convert to game time, you are wasting money. You should buy "game time" instead, much cheaper. Just looked to see if things had changed... Nope. Still cannot buy "game time" for multi character training. Player services for $19.95 is available, but that's more expensive than bulk purchasing PLEX - at a higher overall cost now. So the way I've been doing it is less expensive. For 485 plex in the New Eden Store you can get a multi training certificate, which is cheaper than it used to be.
The only acceptable solution so far... +1 BTW, activating this certificate is also the only way to see multi-character timers and apply to the correct character. |
Duo Roman
Warp Nomads
39
|
Posted - 2017.05.10 02:25:11 -
[135] - Quote
AFK Hauler wrote:Just looked to see if things had changed... Nope. Still cannot buy "game time" for multi character training. Player services for $19.95 is available, but that's more expensive than bulk purchasing PLEX - at a higher overall cost now. So the way I've been doing it is less expensive.
3 plex for training all 3 characters in one account, for 1 month (old prices): 19.95(1plex offer)+34.95(2x plex offer) = 54.90 per month 1 month game time + 2 plex for training all characters in one account, for 1 month (old prices): 14.95+34.95=49.90 per month
If you could by old plex in offer for 17.49 each: 36 plex for all 3 characters 12 months: 36x17.49 = 661 12months subscription time + 24plex (old prices) = 131.40 (12months) + 24*17.49=551.16
Sorry to inform you wasted 110 USD last year.
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K'uata Sayus
Ghengis Tia Corp
5
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Posted - 2017.05.10 02:50:23 -
[136] - Quote
Dimitrios Bekas wrote:Steijn wrote:Whoevers idea it was to dumb down the sound options needs firing ASAP and the old sounds returning. Absolutely stupid idea.
THIS !!!!!!! https://puu.sh/vyBmR/be9766cf4d.jpg I put hours into supertuning the advanced settings, sliders left to right to see what affects what exactly...and there was nearly no Information about lowering those advanced settings announced. And i normally read everything that is upcoming in the future updates... So the REASON why you did it according to the Patch Notes... ****The advanced audio settings menu has been simplified to offer a more experience.*** I needed to google that word and translate it to german, and even after trying to "implement" all the 8 or 9 different things it COULD mean....i don-¦t understand it. IF it has something to do with "Performance/SeverLoad/Compability" Issues, than sell it to us like that.... But don-¦t use extraterrestrial words like "streamlined" when you try to sell us rotten potatoes :D Normally you should have Data about how many Pilots have advanced settings personalized for their needs...from the massive complains in this Forum, it looks like....ENOUGH ! Whoever was in charge to make that Decision and forced it into this Update,...*PENTA-FACEPALM* ^^ Besides that, awesome Update, awesome Work, thanks...
I was upset some weeks ago after the new exploration updates. The screaming loon in the background when the solar system map is enabled was driving me nuts. Someone wisely suggested I adjust the UI level on the advanced audio settings. I did, and it was tolerable.
NOW that option is eradicated. Does anyone at CCP play this game??!? Is the background dung/noise some kind of inside joke shoved down the throats of players who do a lot of exploration?
How can anyone justify this maddeningly annoying sound as a positive addition to the game??!!?
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h3110kittyminer
We Are Down Syndrome inPanic
0
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Posted - 2017.05.10 03:05:18 -
[137] - Quote
These plex changes are a joke lets improve something that works fine they said.... lets release it without making sure simple bugs like remotely using them isn't a problem no that would be to smart.... thanks ccp devs for failing us yet again just like when skill injectors got tweeked what a joke... why learn for your mistakes... |
Deezy Skeelzz
TunDraGon Lost Obsession
0
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Posted - 2017.05.10 03:37:35 -
[138] - Quote
This is by far the worst patch ever. Please change the Probe/Directional scanners back. I love how every time i open the d-scan window it opens up a whole map window with it. How the hell do i open the dscan window without the map. I dont know who's in charge of making all these new horribly ****** changes to everything, but they need a new job. Thanks for once again ruining the game a lil more and more with each patch. |
Mama Baer
The Tiny Co.
2
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Posted - 2017.05.10 03:46:28 -
[139] - Quote
My wish list:
1) Fix the crashing bugs 2) Give me a better skill interface 3) Restore the aura voice and get rid of the login sound 4) Fire the person responsible for audio |
Gal Desh
University of Caille Gallente Federation
4
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Posted - 2017.05.10 04:06:47 -
[140] - Quote
A few quick questions... I had some left over Aurum (less than 1000) on a few accounts which I understood would be converted at a later date. I didn't think to write it down or take a screen grab of it, but the store shows zero PLEX (which would be true) and doesn't reference Aurum at all.
Is there a way to see how much I have/had?
Does CCP keep a record somewhere so they know how much should be converted at the later date?
Maybe I read the patch notes incorrectly, but are they still planning on converting the lower amounts of Aurum later?
Thanks in advance! |
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Ragnar STS
Minmatar Brotherhood Ushra'Khan
94
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Posted - 2017.05.10 04:46:29 -
[141] - Quote
I guess I'll chime in even though I usually consider these threads to be useless idiots crying.
The sound sliders need to be brought back. My 'Music' level is at 5...and the music is still wildly overpowering. I love the old classic music. But I don't want it to be so overpowering that I can hear it from the headset from across the room.
Agree on the irritating mouse-over click needing to be turned down.
I don't know if it is just me or not, but clicking on/off the asteroid environment doesn't seem to do anything in the ice belts anymore. Ice environment is now just the large roids, not the small stuff with rays. This worked beautifully up until today. I'm sort of guessing it is suddenly a dx11 or only thing...playing on linux with dx9 support on the dev wine version.
I very much like the work on the citadel alliance/corp/ceo artwork and the suns.
Anybody upset about the Plex thing can eat rocks. For the love of God...spend a little bit of real money. Subscriptions keep the game servers running. Plex is not supposed to be like the oil market ruining the entire planet. |
Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon Lost Obsession
1663
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Posted - 2017.05.10 04:56:08 -
[142] - Quote
Ragnar STS wrote:I guess I'll chime in even though I usually consider these threads to be useless idiots crying.
The sound sliders need to be brought back. My 'Music' level is at 5...and the music is still wildly overpowering. I love the old classic music. But I don't want it to be so overpowering that I can hear it from the headset from across the room.
Agree on the irritating mouse-over click needing to be turned down.
I don't know if it is just me or not, but clicking on/off the asteroid environment doesn't seem to do anything in the ice belts anymore. Ice environment is now just the large roids, not the small stuff with rays. This worked beautifully up until today. I'm sort of guessing it is suddenly a dx11 or only thing...playing on linux with dx9 support on the dev wine version.
I very much like the work on the citadel alliance/corp/ceo artwork and the suns.
Anybody upset about the Plex thing can eat rocks. For the love of God...spend a little bit of real money. Subscriptions keep the game servers running. Plex is not supposed to be like the oil market ruining the entire planet.
People with a life dont have time to grind. Not everybody is happy by being targeted as a cash cow. The rise in cost is by no means justified by the even reduced quantity of product we recieve. I pay sub but beside pvp I do not have much time to spend in-game.
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Drigo Segvian
Black Fox Marauders
28
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Posted - 2017.05.10 05:01:22 -
[143] - Quote
Eugene Kerner wrote:Ragnar STS wrote:I guess I'll chime in even though I usually consider these threads to be useless idiots crying.
The sound sliders need to be brought back. My 'Music' level is at 5...and the music is still wildly overpowering. I love the old classic music. But I don't want it to be so overpowering that I can hear it from the headset from across the room.
Agree on the irritating mouse-over click needing to be turned down.
I don't know if it is just me or not, but clicking on/off the asteroid environment doesn't seem to do anything in the ice belts anymore. Ice environment is now just the large roids, not the small stuff with rays. This worked beautifully up until today. I'm sort of guessing it is suddenly a dx11 or only thing...playing on linux with dx9 support on the dev wine version.
I very much like the work on the citadel alliance/corp/ceo artwork and the suns.
Anybody upset about the Plex thing can eat rocks. For the love of God...spend a little bit of real money. Subscriptions keep the game servers running. Plex is not supposed to be like the oil market ruining the entire planet. People with a life dont have time to grind. Not everybody is happy by being targeted as a cash cow. The rise in cost is by no means justified by the even reduced quantity of product we recieve. I pay sub but beside pvp I do not have much time to spend in-game.
So how much was the increase if any? $1, $2 a month? $19.99 a plex?
I spend more on a burger and fries for me and my wife.... #nopoors
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Dominous Nolen
V0LTA WE FORM V0LTA
304
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Posted - 2017.05.10 05:21:15 -
[144] - Quote
Scanning interface changes need to happen. When selecting a sig from the probe scanner window can you please make the other sigs disappear from the overview until you move on to the next item?
Also Please... Feature parity the for the old vs new scanners.
For the love of Bob, please put the entry sigs indicator back onto map showing the "unknown wormhole" marker
@dominousnolen
"Fly dangerously, Fly safe, Fly whatever, just keep Flying." - Lee Blackwood
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Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon Lost Obsession
1663
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Posted - 2017.05.10 06:08:17 -
[145] - Quote
Drigo Segvian wrote:Eugene Kerner wrote:Ragnar STS wrote:I guess I'll chime in even though I usually consider these threads to be useless idiots crying.
The sound sliders need to be brought back. My 'Music' level is at 5...and the music is still wildly overpowering. I love the old classic music. But I don't want it to be so overpowering that I can hear it from the headset from across the room.
Agree on the irritating mouse-over click needing to be turned down.
I don't know if it is just me or not, but clicking on/off the asteroid environment doesn't seem to do anything in the ice belts anymore. Ice environment is now just the large roids, not the small stuff with rays. This worked beautifully up until today. I'm sort of guessing it is suddenly a dx11 or only thing...playing on linux with dx9 support on the dev wine version.
I very much like the work on the citadel alliance/corp/ceo artwork and the suns.
Anybody upset about the Plex thing can eat rocks. For the love of God...spend a little bit of real money. Subscriptions keep the game servers running. Plex is not supposed to be like the oil market ruining the entire planet. People with a life dont have time to grind. Not everybody is happy by being targeted as a cash cow. The rise in cost is by no means justified by the even reduced quantity of product we recieve. I pay sub but beside pvp I do not have much time to spend in-game. So how much was the increase if any? $1, $2 a month? $19.99 a plex? I spend more on a burger and fries for me and my wife.... #nopoors I bet you do.
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Viceran Phaedra
Instar Heavy Industries
79
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Posted - 2017.05.10 06:56:50 -
[146] - Quote
When you are on the default 'look at my ship' view, the camera sits a bit too high on both the Council Diplomatic Shuttle and Pacifier frigate (tested on Sisi for the Pacifier). This makes them look a bit 'too low' on-screen, instead of centred.
Cheers!
Chief Executive Officer
Instar Heavy Industries
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Queloor Zefram
Star Explorers Reckoning Star Alliance
6
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Posted - 2017.05.10 07:21:41 -
[147] - Quote
I am a supremely dissatisfied customer. Like super pissed off. Patch "successfully deployed", the irony in that phrase .....
CCP dev, why this stark raving madness?
1. Bring back the advanced sound settings. Today!
2. The probe scanner window is one step forward and three backwards. Having to use the keyboard and the mouse to scan, having to travel longer distances on screen, etc, etc, etc, pp. The new probe scanner window is not yet ready for prime time.
3. Nobody in their right mind wants a plex vault. If you remove risk from the game, then why not respawn my ship after it gets killed. Risk/Reward belongs to this game, take it away and I can go play something else.
4. Nobody in their right mind wants a plex vault showing up in the inventory of an undocked ship.
5. CPU load when minimized is higher, when you run multiple accounts that is an issue.
6. "Removed Output dropdown from TE and ME jobs (As they didn't do anything)" Not true! Are you even doing industry sometimes before you remove functionality that lets me move bpo from one container to the next as they are being researched ? I have bpos packaged and unresearch in one container. Then I progress with ME to a lvl 6 container, then to a ME level 8 container, then to a ME level 9-10 container. The same with TE. Please put that functionality back asap!
7. No plex for character transfers
8. Haven't tried it yet, but apparently no plex for game time donation from one account to another ?
I ll now cancel the automatic subscription on five active accounts, if you try to fix this stuff then ok, if not, goodbye.
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Nicola Arman
Sehnlein
153
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Posted - 2017.05.10 08:02:13 -
[148] - Quote
Suns disappear then reappear when you happen to warp through them. A sun portal is created causing what seem to be unintended visual issues. |
Hiotu Molou
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2017.05.10 08:24:19 -
[149] - Quote
I do not know why I get my hopes up after every disappointment. CCP you should listen to your players more and not remove good functional features.
The (old, new one is not advanced at all) advanced sound settings were absolutely vital in certain environments, for example advanced wormhole scouting and PvP.
To that end, the old scanning system was much more intuitive, I tried for a few months to use the new one but it just couldn't scan as fast with it. If shortcut for d-scanning worked for the old one it would've been perfect for me.
Plex vault is absolutely infuriating. I don't need an annoying reminder that takes space in every inventory window ever. Also I am worried about this constant trend of making Eve less risky. The vault is yet another example of it.
I am also thoroughly disappointed about the change that you can not use plex to transfer characters. I was hoping to rearrange my characters on my accounts after my break and spending my savings on injectors and having much less playtime. I can not afford to pay for all of that, I would rather unsub again. |
Milostiev
Beyond Divinity Inc Shadow Cartel
22
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Posted - 2017.05.10 08:44:08 -
[150] - Quote
I like that you unified the the 2 currencies into one (PLEX and AUR were in a way both currencies).
Not sure exactly how to use it to extend omega time, or how to gift it to someone just yet, but i don't think you are that stupid to not put this feature in. :P
My one question .... remember how you were warned about the range of Warp Scrambling on HICS when you put that in the game ? |
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Nina Hagen-Daz
EVE University Ivy League
0
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Posted - 2017.05.10 08:45:07 -
[151] - Quote
How can we hide the plex vault in the inventory? Its extremely annoying and typically only needed once per month. |
Nantis
Caldari Scientific Research
0
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Posted - 2017.05.10 10:12:05 -
[152] - Quote
Cant warp moon closer than 5000km, is that upcoming feature or just a mistake/bug? |
Matthias Ancaladron
Wrath of Angels Solitaire.
291
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Posted - 2017.05.10 10:56:09 -
[153] - Quote
Stupid f***ing update. Plex is more expensive then ever and Plex scams as nauseum which I predicted weeks ago.
Stupid lighting change broke station interiors so now I have to play on direct x 9 with 5fps. I got 11before and I didn't freeze when docking and undocking.
Nothing of value added, game just made somewhat worse. Starting to feel very cheap and full of adverts like it's a zynga game or clash of clans. I look forward to cheezy commercials soon.
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Cat silth
Diversity 101 The Bastard Cartel
49
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Posted - 2017.05.10 11:03:06 -
[154] - Quote
tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick Oh everything group together no ui for me in the game then. |
Milostiev
Beyond Divinity Inc Shadow Cartel
22
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Posted - 2017.05.10 11:03:50 -
[155] - Quote
Milostiev wrote:I like that you unified the the 2 currencies into one (PLEX and AUR were in a way both currencies).
Not sure exactly how to use it to extend omega time, or how to gift it to someone just yet, but i don't think you are that stupid to not put this feature in. :P
My one question .... remember how you were warned about the range of Warp Scrambling on HICS when you put that in the game ?
Ohhh, i figured it out. I love this new change. :P
I also love the 4 weeks contracts now, this is going to be nice in some ways (i sell a lot on contracts). The fighter related UI changes are also awesome. The blood raider citadel thing sounds awesome, such a shame it ended up in the hands of gewns (for now)m, i hope you will expand them to other pirate factions too. :(
Quote:about concord ships After a limited period of timed exclusivity these ships will become available to other capsuleers in the future. awesome, let the fanfest ppl have first dibs but allow us poor mortals to have a crack at them as well .... i like it, it's better than exclusivity, as that would push them in the realms of AT ships in terms of price, and it would be a rather unfair reward Blood raider caps/titan sound nice, i hope they will be with a smaller cost than the serpentis ones, which in some ways are more like vanity stuff now. It's good that you made separate brackets for EG's, these things will end up cluttering the skies. Maybe in long term you should decide on a limit of citadels per planet/system. You might also consider making them easier to blow up, the Astra for instance has an obscene exposure (in terms of hours). Maybe buff their defences, increase exposure, reduce cycles of reinforce ? Love the fixes, some took a while though. :)
Not a big fan of displaying portrait on structures, i hope you have a way to disable this .... it's more of an e-peen thing i guess.
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Milostiev
Beyond Divinity Inc Shadow Cartel
22
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Posted - 2017.05.10 11:05:28 -
[156] - Quote
Matthias Ancaladron wrote:Stupid f***ing update. Plex is more expensive then ever and Plex scams as nauseum which I predicted weeks ago.
Stupid lighting change broke station interiors so now I have to play on direct x 9 with 5fps. I got 11before and I didn't freeze when docking and undocking.
Nothing of value added, game just made somewhat worse. Starting to feel very cheap and full of adverts like it's a zynga game or clash of clans. I look forward to cheezy commercials soon.
Plex value will go down, there was a lot of speculation with plex right before the update. However, summer is coming, and if the trend is the same, it should go up even more during summer time. It will tank the moment ppl go back to school/jobs. |
AshenShugar01
Convicts and Savages Shadow Cartel
36
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Posted - 2017.05.10 11:13:38 -
[157] - Quote
Buried in the mountains of useless patch-notes was probably 'we are removing the old scanner'.............. sigh
Of course the question begs 'why?' and also the question 'why update it at all?'
Utility is the Key CCP, something that despite having many masterstrokes in this game in the years I have been playing you guys just cant seem to get your heads around. Utility, the idea that things wherever possible should be simple to use and not time consuming.
The new scanner is a dog, I HATE it.
Now I freely admit to my being a vet so bitter that i have bitter in my bitter but please.... WHY IS THERE A GIANT GREEN DEATH STAR IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SCANNING MAP?
Why is he unhappy? I cant see anything genuis, it makes it really hard to see the things you are trying to scan down. Yes yes directional scan is important and seeing the range displayed is ok for idiots who dont know how to use it without visual aids i suppose but why for gods sake why is it so damn bright?
How does something as simple as this make it through testing? Its even in the feedback thread re the new scanner.... |
Fer'isam K'ahn
SAS Veterinarians
497
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Posted - 2017.05.10 13:00:02 -
[158] - Quote
Hy,
I know I am a bit late, but there are other things happening besides EVE
Fearing another wall of text won't do any good, I made a video in regards to the probe scanner / star map changes. It was months overdue, but then again, it should not be my (or our) job to consider this properly.
EVE Online - o7 Probe Scanner / Star Map - Uncensored
Hope some will take the time and actually address the issues.
Cheers ...
...and fly safe.
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Tsutomi Sakuma
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
14
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Posted - 2017.05.10 14:28:55 -
[159] - Quote
xpl0de wrote:Pretty soon we will be able to pay for skills with plex. Way to go CCP
Feature already implemented. |
Rivr Luzade
Kenshin. DARKNESS.
3030
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Posted - 2017.05.10 14:30:01 -
[160] - Quote
Drigo Segvian wrote:So how much was the increase if any? $1, $2 a month? $19.99 a plex?
I spend more on a burger and fries for me and my wife.... #nopoors A lot more than you think. Just compare these 2 pictures: Old PLEX Prices vs. New PLEX prices. For instance: You got 6 full months of Game Time before the changes, now you only get 5 Months and 72% of the 6th month of game time. That's a lot more than than just 1 or 2 dollars per month in increased cost, infact, it's more than 5 USD on the 6th month that you need to spend extra because you did not get a full month of subscription value.
UI Improvement Collective
My ridicule, heavy criticism and general pale outlook about your or CCP's ideas is nothing but an encouragement to prove me wrong. Give it a try.
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Tsutomi Sakuma
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
14
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Posted - 2017.05.10 14:31:26 -
[161] - Quote
Christina Carter wrote:It's not about the price going up on plex or the fact that plex can no longer be used to do character transfers. For me it is simply that CCP implemented these changes without notifying the Eve community. It was done in a disgustingly sneaky way which has broken the trust I had in CCP.
I'm a person that believes in being forthcoming and letting the chips fall where they may. Had CCP been as forthcoming and just gave us notice that these are the new changes to pricing and use of PLEX, I would be ok with it but now I have to act on principal. I have already unsubbed 2 of my 6 accts and I feel that our relationship has come to an end.
I remember that summer of rage. I was part of the protest. I remember how CCP admitted to making mistakes and going forward was going to have more open communication with the player base. However, it seems that CCP has fallen back into it's old ways of not caring about how we are affected or treating us with the respect the we, the players, deserve. Simply put, don't bite the hand that feeds you.
I have seen the changes that have been implemented over the years concerning CCP's business model for Eve and I can no longer support the actions of CCP. When a company takes actions that even look sneaky or dishonest towards it's player base, then I have reevaluate my continued participation in that business as a customer.
I have chosen to vote with my wallet and place my support elsewhere. I have to follow my principals and quite frankly, I no longer trust CCP.
Communications Closed!
Please feel free to contract your belongings to me.
...and they did give heads up on changes to PLEX. |
Tsutomi Sakuma
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
14
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Posted - 2017.05.10 14:33:41 -
[162] - Quote
Ebanezer Scrooge wrote:just logged and seen the update. 500 plex is what it takes to add game time. They selling you 440 +60 free for 19.99 unfortunately to me this smells, and really bad to boot. I see people calling it a scam, it looks closer to what might be considered something else.
1 PLEX was $19.99
500 nuPLEX are $19.99
To what odor do you refer? |
Tsutomi Sakuma
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
14
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Posted - 2017.05.10 14:48:35 -
[163] - Quote
Rivr Luzade wrote:Drigo Segvian wrote:So how much was the increase if any? $1, $2 a month? $19.99 a plex?
I spend more on a burger and fries for me and my wife.... #nopoors A lot more than you think. Just compare these 2 pictures: Old PLEX Prices vs. New PLEX prices. For instance: You got 6 full months of Game Time before the changes, now you only get 5 Months and 72% of the 6th month of game time. That's a lot more than than just 1 or 2 dollars per month in increased cost, infact, it's more than 5 USD on the 6th month that you need to spend extra because you did not get a full month of subscription value.
Those old prices were during a goddamn sale - not even a valid comparison. |
AFK Hauler
State War Academy
1213
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Posted - 2017.05.10 15:06:55 -
[164] - Quote
Tsutomi Sakuma wrote:Rivr Luzade wrote:Drigo Segvian wrote:So how much was the increase if any? $1, $2 a month? $19.99 a plex?
I spend more on a burger and fries for me and my wife.... #nopoors A lot more than you think. Just compare these 2 pictures: Old PLEX Prices vs. New PLEX prices. For instance: You got 6 full months of Game Time before the changes, now you only get 5 Months and 72% of the 6th month of game time. That's a lot more than than just 1 or 2 dollars per month in increased cost, infact, it's more than 5 USD on the 6th month that you need to spend extra because you did not get a full month of subscription value. Those old prices were during a goddamn sale - not even a valid comparison.
Math is hard, I get it...
New PLEX price is 440 for $19.99 - You are counting the "free" plex given that is not part of the price you pay.
The current offering is a SALE price just like the other sale price because some of the PLEX you receive is FREE....
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Rivr Luzade
Kenshin. DARKNESS.
3031
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Posted - 2017.05.10 15:24:05 -
[165] - Quote
Tsutomi Sakuma wrote:Rivr Luzade wrote:Drigo Segvian wrote:So how much was the increase if any? $1, $2 a month? $19.99 a plex?
I spend more on a burger and fries for me and my wife.... #nopoors A lot more than you think. Just compare these 2 pictures: Old PLEX Prices vs. New PLEX prices. For instance: You got 6 full months of Game Time before the changes, now you only get 5 Months and 72% of the 6th month of game time. That's a lot more than than just 1 or 2 dollars per month in increased cost, infact, it's more than 5 USD on the 6th month that you need to spend extra because you did not get a full month of subscription value. Those old prices were during a goddamn sale - not even a valid comparison. Of course this is a "goddamn" comparison because CCP reduced the amount you get but keeps the same price.
And as for "what odor" the other guy refers to: You pay 19.99 to get 440 PLEX, not 500. 60 PLEX of these 500 total are supposed to be "free". Funnily enough, CCP has removed that now and says now that you pay 19.99 to get 500 PLEX. Until that correction, it was false and deceiving marketing.
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Algarion Getz
Aideron Corp
340
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Posted - 2017.05.10 15:24:48 -
[166] - Quote
Do something against the high CPU usage CCP! CPU usage is 2 - 2.5 times higher since the patch. My laptop is melting. Before the patch i could barely hear the fans when running 4 clients, now the fans run at full speed all the time. |
Reyka Brennivin
The Darwin Foundation
1
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Posted - 2017.05.10 15:43:45 -
[167] - Quote
Rivr Luzade wrote:Tsutomi Sakuma wrote:Rivr Luzade wrote:Drigo Segvian wrote:So how much was the increase if any? $1, $2 a month? $19.99 a plex?
I spend more on a burger and fries for me and my wife.... #nopoors A lot more than you think. Just compare these 2 pictures: Old PLEX Prices vs. New PLEX prices. For instance: You got 6 full months of Game Time before the changes, now you only get 5 Months and 72% of the 6th month of game time. That's a lot more than than just 1 or 2 dollars per month in increased cost, infact, it's more than 5 USD on the 6th month that you need to spend extra because you did not get a full month of subscription value. Those old prices were during a goddamn sale - not even a valid comparison. Of course this is a "goddamn" comparison because CCP reduced the amount you get but keeps the same price. And as for "what odor" the other guy refers to: You pay 19.99 to get 440 PLEX, not 500. 60 PLEX of these 500 total are supposed to be "free". Funnily enough, CCP has removed that now and says now that you pay 19.99 to get 500 PLEX. Until that correction, it was false and deceiving marketing.
It's just like ST:O |
AFK Hauler
State War Academy
1213
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Posted - 2017.05.10 15:44:11 -
[168] - Quote
Rivr Luzade wrote:Tsutomi Sakuma wrote:Rivr Luzade wrote:Drigo Segvian wrote:So how much was the increase if any? $1, $2 a month? $19.99 a plex?
I spend more on a burger and fries for me and my wife.... #nopoors A lot more than you think. Just compare these 2 pictures: Old PLEX Prices vs. New PLEX prices. For instance: You got 6 full months of Game Time before the changes, now you only get 5 Months and 72% of the 6th month of game time. That's a lot more than than just 1 or 2 dollars per month in increased cost, infact, it's more than 5 USD on the 6th month that you need to spend extra because you did not get a full month of subscription value. Those old prices were during a goddamn sale - not even a valid comparison. Of course this is a "goddamn" comparison because CCP reduced the amount you get but keeps the same price. And as for "what odor" the other guy refers to: You pay 19.99 to get 440 PLEX, not 500. 60 PLEX of these 500 total are supposed to be "free". Funnily enough, CCP has removed that now and says now that you pay 19.99 to get 500 PLEX. Until that correction, it was false and deceiving marketing.
Correct on the 60 Free PLEX removal - Now its 13% BONUS???
That's still 60 PLEX "free". It's Still a revaluation on the base PLEX price upwards. Nu-PLEX Costs more than old plex.
The 440 base price is the valuation used to set the price for all the packages of multi-buy incentives. The parity with the old PLEX prices is not matched until $99 package. Therefore, the base PLEX price has gone up.
You are correct in that CCP is taking the players for a ride on the inflation short bus. 14 year old game has become more expensive to play this week over last week. As Fozzy would put it, this is just another knob we can use to tweak the system.
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AFK Hauler
State War Academy
1213
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Posted - 2017.05.10 15:51:00 -
[169] - Quote
At the current valuation of PLEX - to make the new PLEX the same as the oldplex, the price should be $17.60 for 440, or get rid of the "13% bonus" garbage.
If CCP really wanted to give 13% bonus for the same PLEX valuation, then $19.99 would get 565 PLEX.
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Duo Roman
Warp Nomads
40
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Posted - 2017.05.10 16:06:14 -
[170] - Quote
Rivr Luzade wrote:A lot more than you think. Just compare these 2 pictures: Old PLEX Prices vs. New PLEX prices. For instance: You got 6 full months of Game Time before the changes, now you only get 5 Months and 72% of the 6th month of game time. That's a lot more than than just 1 or 2 dollars per month in increased cost, infact, it's more than 5 USD on the 6th month that you need to spend extra because you did not get a full month of subscription value.
That was not old plex prices, that was the "Crimson Harvest PLEX Sale". Regular old prices were those that don't have "offer" label, like the 6, 12 and 28 deals below: http://i.imgur.com/YU39tis.png See: https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/62fqqw/15_off_plex_you_say_runs_off_to_find_spreadsheets/ Please stop spreading misinformation.
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Max Striker
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
0
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Posted - 2017.05.10 16:08:08 -
[171] - Quote
Mollie Mormon wrote:Reyka Brennivin wrote:I must be seeing it wrong. The 30 day PLEX rate @ 14.99) is gone? I now only see the 19.99/30 days? I think it's been $19.99 all along. As long as I can remember, yes.
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Duo Roman
Warp Nomads
40
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Posted - 2017.05.10 16:18:51 -
[172] - Quote
AFK Hauler wrote:At the current valuation of PLEX - to make the new PLEX the same as the oldplex, the price should be $17.60 for 440, or get rid of the "13% bonus" garbage.
If CCP really wanted to give 13% bonus for the same PLEX valuation, then $19.99 would get 565 PLEX.
The 13% bonus is compared to the smaller offer you can purchase (which you could't before). Here is a comparison that proves new deals are actually a bit cheaper: https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/698lzr/hmmmm_plex_are_more_expensive_with_the_new/dh4ng64/ |
AFK Hauler
State War Academy
1213
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Posted - 2017.05.10 17:03:22 -
[173] - Quote
Duo Roman wrote:AFK Hauler wrote:At the current valuation of PLEX - to make the new PLEX the same as the oldplex, the price should be $17.60 for 440, or get rid of the "13% bonus" garbage.
If CCP really wanted to give 13% bonus for the same PLEX valuation, then $19.99 would get 565 PLEX.
The 13% bonus is compared to the smaller offer you can purchase (which you could't before). Here is a comparison that proves new deals are actually a bit cheaper: https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/698lzr/hmmmm_plex_are_more_expensive_with_the_new/dh4ng64/
That uses the Bonus PLEX in the comparison. The true valuation has increased by inflation to a new normal. You don't realize that the "free" or "bonus" plex is not part of the valuation and don't realize that it's a marketing tool used to establish a new baseline for pricing. Therefore, the new baseline valuation is the tool used to derive the cost of the larger package deals. There is nothing in the rule of corporation pricing that says the Bonus or Free plex is mandatory and can be revoked at any point as it's NOT part of the base valuation of the product being sold - period! |
Thora Unni
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2017.05.10 17:13:57 -
[174] - Quote
AFK Hauler wrote:At the current valuation of PLEX - to make the new PLEX the same as the oldplex, the price should be $17.60 for 440, or get rid of the "13% bonus" garbage.
If CCP really wanted to give 13% bonus for the same PLEX valuation, then $19.99 would get 565 PLEX.
That is the normal pricing set up for a number of MMOs
19.99 for 1 plex was the old cost. (enough for a month of play time)
now 500 plex which costs 19.99 is enough for a month of play time.
if you want to buy less plex the cost goes up, if you want to buy more plex the cost goes down.
You can't market it that way though. So you start at the lowest amount of plex you can buy and call that the base rate and then give a "discount" in "free plex" to each tier above.
The Real finger to people comes in that you can not buy 6 old plex of nu plex exactly IIRC it was 105 You have to buy 99.99 worth of nuplex (2860) which is 140 plex shy. That means you have to spend $9.99 more to get 240 plex leaving you with 100 plex left over and while spending $5
Meaning you spend 109.99 for 3100 plex Or 28.185plex for each dollar The old system was 104.99 for 3000 plex (equivalent) or 28.57plex for each dollar.
meaning it is cheaper per plex but you have to spend more over all.
That is the scam. Force people to buy more than they want and spend more for it. While saying it is actually cheaper per unit.
I don't know the cost of AUR so I don't know how nuplex in amounts under 500 compare to it and the value of items.
More so it has resulted in a devaluation of ISK to USD because the cost of 500plex is almost universally more expensive than 1 plex was prior and that will likely not change because after all this is a game where the general goal for many is to screw people over as much as you can.
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Random Lurker
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
3
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Posted - 2017.05.10 17:24:01 -
[175] - Quote
Axhind wrote:
PLEX is just to expensive, before you changed it PLEX was about 1,150,000,000 or less...
It will calm down but the overall prices will be slightly higher than before due to higher demand now that skill extractors can also be purchased via plex. Expect it to settle around 1.2 to 1.3
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Blazemonger
Omni Galactic Central Omni Galactic Group
2
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Posted - 2017.05.10 17:49:50 -
[176] - Quote
DovHammer wrote:Why ingame plex still 30 days(?)
With the new Plex system you need 500 of them to play 30 days - well that's fair enough.
But - if I only can play (say) one week, why not be able to pay in ingame plex for a week(?)
/DovHammer
Trust me.. that's coming.. it will be the perfect way for CCP to monetize Alpha clones.. 'get a week of double speed training or try out those fancy ships' |
Christina Carter
Moonfire Industries
9
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Posted - 2017.05.10 17:56:02 -
[177] - Quote
Tsutomi Sakuma wrote:Christina Carter wrote:It's not about the price going up on plex or the fact that plex can no longer be used to do character transfers. For me it is simply that CCP implemented these changes without notifying the Eve community. It was done in a disgustingly sneaky way which has broken the trust I had in CCP.
I'm a person that believes in being forthcoming and letting the chips fall where they may. Had CCP been as forthcoming and just gave us notice that these are the new changes to pricing and use of PLEX, I would be ok with it but now I have to act on principal. I have already unsubbed 2 of my 6 accts and I feel that our relationship has come to an end.
I remember that summer of rage. I was part of the protest. I remember how CCP admitted to making mistakes and going forward was going to have more open communication with the player base. However, it seems that CCP has fallen back into it's old ways of not caring about how we are affected or treating us with the respect the we, the players, deserve. Simply put, don't bite the hand that feeds you.
I have seen the changes that have been implemented over the years concerning CCP's business model for Eve and I can no longer support the actions of CCP. When a company takes actions that even look sneaky or dishonest towards it's player base, then I have reevaluate my continued participation in that business as a customer.
I have chosen to vote with my wallet and place my support elsewhere. I have to follow my principals and quite frankly, I no longer trust CCP.
Communications Closed! Please feel free to contract your belongings to me. ...and they did give heads up on changes to PLEX.
TY for that lovely typical troll response about my stuff.
You obviously missed the whole point of my post which wasn't about PLEX changes or the removal of using PLEX to pay for character transfers. It was about the way CCP went about it. CCP said years ago that they were going to be more open and communicative with the player base about these changes. They failed, again!
While they did give us a heads up on the changes of how PLEX was being broken up into smaller bits, plex vault, they were never forthcoming about how the pricing was going to be done. Keep in mind that the "+ X Free" doesn't count towards the price as that bonus amount can be revoked at anytime by CCP.
CCP slipped into the patch notes, 4 days before the patch, that PLEX can no longer be used to pay for character transfers and said nothing concerning this until someone called CCP out on this matter. The excuse CCP gave was pathetic at best.
I personally feel that CCP has broken their word and I no longer trust them. I have principals and I'm not the kind of person that says, "thank you sir may I please have another." Maybe you are, but I am not! |
Bubu Magic
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2017.05.10 17:57:59 -
[178] - Quote
Why "buy as a gift" option doesn't work?Also if we use the new plex to add time to account seems to work only on account manager and you can't see the added time in game or in api's. I assume is working as intended as always. |
Confused Amarr Citizen
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2017.05.10 18:20:00 -
[179] - Quote
New sound options are annoying, please bring back more options (even if its just tick boxes to turn off some of the more annoying stuff, like the horrible click and dscan boom) |
Guttripper
State War Academy Caldari State
652
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Posted - 2017.05.10 18:45:38 -
[180] - Quote
A few years ago, didn't CCP hire someone from Electronic Arts? I remember reading comments from players worried that Eve will eventually follow the dark path of "gold ammo" and other pay to win offers. Perhaps these Plex changes are the beginning (of the end): confuse the player base further, offer some dynamic deal, offer some small trinkets for sale, and slowly build upon that before the only way to play Eve successfully is to pay to win.
Just a thought...? |
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Deus Reliquit
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2017.05.10 19:21:14 -
[181] - Quote
Queloor Zefram wrote:I am a supremely dissatisfied customer. Like super pissed off. Patch "successfully deployed", the irony in that phrase .....
CCP dev, why this stark raving madness?
1. Bring back the advanced sound settings. Today!
2. The probe scanner window is one step forward and three backwards. Having to use the keyboard and the mouse to scan, having to travel longer distances on screen, etc, etc, etc, pp. The new probe scanner window is not yet ready for prime time.
3. Nobody in their right mind wants a plex vault. If you remove risk from the game, then why not respawn my ship after it gets killed. Risk/Reward belongs to this game, take it away and I can go play something else.
4. Nobody in their right mind wants a plex vault showing up in the inventory of an undocked ship.
5. CPU load when minimized is higher, when you run multiple accounts that is an issue.
6. "Removed Output dropdown from TE and ME jobs (As they didn't do anything)" Not true! Are you even doing industry sometimes before you remove functionality that lets me move bpo from one container to the next as they are being researched ? I have bpos packaged and unresearch in one container. Then I progress with ME to a lvl 6 container, then to a ME level 8 container, then to a ME level 9-10 container. The same with TE. Please put that functionality back asap!
7. No plex for character transfers
8. Haven't tried it yet, but apparently no plex for game time donation from one account to another ?
I ll now cancel the automatic subscription on five active accounts, if you try to fix this stuff then ok, if not, goodbye.
#5 needs to be in red and urgent... also add in the GPU!
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Sky Marshal
Core Industry. Blades of Grass
148
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Posted - 2017.05.10 19:39:06 -
[182] - Quote
Queloor Zefram wrote:I am a supremely dissatisfied customer. Like super pissed off. Patch "successfully deployed", the irony in that phrase .....
CCP dev, why this stark raving madness?
1. Bring back the advanced sound settings. Today!
2. The probe scanner window is one step forward and three backwards. Having to use the keyboard and the mouse to scan, having to travel longer distances on screen, etc, etc, etc, pp. The new probe scanner window is not yet ready for prime time.
4. Nobody in their right mind wants a plex vault showing up in the inventory of an undocked ship.
5. CPU load when minimized is higher, when you run multiple accounts that is an issue.
6. "Removed Output dropdown from TE and ME jobs (As they didn't do anything)" Not true! Are you even doing industry sometimes before you remove functionality that lets me move bpo from one container to the next as they are being researched ? I have bpos packaged and unresearch in one container. Then I progress with ME to a lvl 6 container, then to a ME level 8 container, then to a ME level 9-10 container. The same with TE. Please put that functionality back asap!
7. No plex for character transfers
This, especialy #1 (for the LAST TIME, MORE options is MANDATORY, remove them is the WORST choice you can make. Eve Players aren't a lambda/dumb user and so need them, whatever your so-called UI specialists can say), and #5 (Process Explorer is crazy right now)
"Move to Plex Vault" don't seem to work from the Assets window. I have to move from multiple locations to get them back. As usual, it was better... before. |
Freelancer117
so you want to be a Hero
529
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Posted - 2017.05.10 20:19:43 -
[183] - Quote
Can we get the patch notes for May 10th plz
Eve online is :
A) mining simulator B) glorified chatroom C) spreadsheets online
D) CCP Games Pay to Win at skill leveling, with instant gratification
http://eve-radio.com//images/photos/3419/223/34afa0d7998f0a9a86f737d6.jpg
http://bit.ly/1egr4mF
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Alia Nadasdy
Imperial's Capsulers
8
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Posted - 2017.05.10 21:31:50 -
[184] - Quote
RIP Farewell, my most beautiful ship in the game
"We are the Harbingers of hope, We are the Sword of the Righteous"
"We are a shadow of the former greatness of the Empire"
Purist Lord Admiral Victor
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Zinn Tesla Hadron
Quantum Convent
46
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Posted - 2017.05.10 22:09:23 -
[185] - Quote
Mark my words, there is going to come a day, in the not too distant future, when that +60 BONUS PLEX disappears from the PLEX page. And then it really will be 440 PLEX for $19.99.
There is no other reason to do this except to set up a change to the real price of PLEX that CCP was moving towards all along.
That'll be the last day i log into this game.
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Que Ess
New Eden's Best. Goonswarm Federation
2
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Posted - 2017.05.11 00:16:26 -
[186] - Quote
Bring back Advanced Audio.
The game is unplayable with audio enabled now. |
Annexe
I N E X T R E M I S Tactical Narcotics Team
154
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Posted - 2017.05.11 02:24:52 -
[187] - Quote
updates.eveonline.com/
Not a single mention of upcoming Audio Settings changes.
It really gets to me when CCP sneak in changes that they feel won't affect the game or the community, but instead seem to cause a lot of drama, that probably could have been avoided. This site was developed to allow CCP to communicate to the public the upcoming changes in a patch, so why not mention ALL the changes, no matter how brief, and allow those who are concerned to check them out on SISI and give their feedback, while development is still ongoing. I really feel this site is under-utilised, not well maintained, and not very well developed.
Had I known BEFORE the patch, that CCP were going to simplify the Advanced Audio Settings and merge a lot of sounds into single sliders, I would have spoken up earlier.
On a positive note, +1 for; Increased contract duration drone/fighter damage colours suns!
I'm on the fence about the PLEX changes, but lets see where it goes.
Annexe
ITAI - VIP
"i will pop your wreck with faction loot"
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Ocean Ormand
Bagel and Lox
62
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Posted - 2017.05.11 02:35:30 -
[188] - Quote
Ok I will forgive you for everything else if you will just tell me how to get rid of the dscan bong that happens every time one of my toons jumps into a new system.
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Andrian Dallocort
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2017.05.11 08:03:47 -
[189] - Quote
I don't understand why people are so upset about a fairly small (10%? 20%?) change in the game money cost to receive free game play.
Its a bad idea that CCP ever allowed anyone to play without paying a monthly subscription cost in real money. Everyone playing EVE should be paying the same amount to play, per character or per account. It seems like a spoiled brat reaction to be stomping feet and threatening to take your toys and go home (ie quit playing EVE) because of a small percentage change. Would it be so wrong, bad, or outrageous if CCP just said they were not going to give away free play anymore and everyone had to pay $10 per month to play? That's not a lot of money, especially compared to the play value obtained by serious players.
There should be no cross-mixing of game and real money, in either direction. Players should not be able to pay real money to have in-game advantages nor should CCP pay players to play the game by giving them free play at some level of achievement, measured using game money.
Keep it pure. Mixing real money and game money is a recipe for ruining a game. CCP should step away from the edge and keep the game honest. We players should help them by embracing paying our fair share in monthly fees in real money so they can run the business, but discouraging the practice of pay-for-advantage.
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Erebus 'TheChin' Sundance
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
60
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Posted - 2017.05.11 09:15:17 -
[190] - Quote
The price of Plex has not gone up by much, it's miniscule, and if you read the plethora of previous comments you will see a correlation between accepting a slight fee increase versus being provided with solid content worthy of those fees.
I subbed annually, so I can't add anything valuable to that debate, but in conjunction with this they have not provided adequate content, quite the opposite in fact. They have changed, altered and removed solid content and replaced it with poor, even ********, content.
From the posts in this thread, it's quite clear there is discontentment afoot.
I can't threaten to unsub as I already cancelled a couple of months ago simply because unless you play in a large null alliance with rigged members on the CSM CCP don't seem interested one iota what you think. It's not a sandbox.
My last hope is the stupendous CCP Karkur bringing a can of kung foo whoop ass on the responsible team and getting the simplified audio travesty undone or at least amended to have a few more options. Sorting out the Plex vault from appearing everywhere and reducing lag while the scan window is open. As she seems to be the only one their that cares about the little things (that aren't very little anymore)
Where are the CSM in this? What can they do to help in our time of need. Why are we even voting for a council anymore?
edit: the word re-tar-ded seems to be blocked. |
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Algarion Getz
Aideron Corp
349
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Posted - 2017.05.11 10:28:49 -
[191] - Quote
Andrian Dallocort wrote:I don't understand why people are so upset about a fairly small (10%? 20%?) change in the game money cost to receive free game play.
Its a bad idea that CCP ever allowed anyone to play without paying a monthly subscription cost in real money. Everyone playing EVE should be paying the same amount to play, per character or per account. It seems like a spoiled brat reaction to be stomping feet and threatening to take your toys and go home (ie quit playing EVE) because of a small percentage change. Would it be so wrong, bad, or outrageous if CCP just said they were not going to give away free play anymore and everyone had to pay $10 per month to play? That's not a lot of money, especially compared to the play value obtained by serious players.
There should be no cross-mixing of game and real money, in either direction. Players should not be able to pay real money to have in-game advantages nor should CCP pay players to play the game by giving them free play at some level of achievement, measured using game money.
Keep it pure. Mixing real money and game money is a recipe for ruining a game. CCP should step away from the edge and keep the game honest. We players should help them by embracing paying our fair share in monthly fees in real money so they can run the business, but discouraging the practice of pay-for-advantage.
The game costs 15$ a month, not 10$. In the USA, 15$ might not be a lot of money, but not every country has the same income level as the USA. In many eastern European countries for example, people earn 3-4 times less than in people in the USA, so 15$ are like 60$. So when you run multiple accounts, like most EVE players do, the game costs 120$ or more per month.
PLEX is a great solution for that problem.
This "I dont need this feature and i dont like it, so no one should have it"-attitude is really annoying. |
Lupp0 PeakyBlinder
Resilience. DARKNESS.
0
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Posted - 2017.05.11 11:15:06 -
[192] - Quote
Can we PLEASE have the option for the old probe/dscan menu again. Because this new menu is not even adjustable and takes up 1/3 of my screen.. I BEG YOU! :( |
Fabled Katana
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2017.05.11 11:23:03 -
[193] - Quote
-ú9.99 30 days gametime -ú16.99 for 500 plex including the 13% bonus?
Think maybe something might be wrong here..... |
Trixi Laminer
The Scope Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2017.05.11 12:26:48 -
[194] - Quote
Lupp0 PeakyBlinder wrote:Can we PLEASE have the option for the old probe/dscan menu again. Because this new menu is not even adjustable and takes up 1/3 of my screen.. I BEG YOU! :(
You can press escape change the fixed window etc graphics settings then press escape and move the scan windows, then press escape and set back to the graphics settings you liked if it was fullscreen etc.. should fix the bug where scan window and scan map is slightly outside the monitor. |
Tsutomi Sakuma
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
14
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Posted - 2017.05.11 13:13:53 -
[195] - Quote
AFK Hauler wrote:Tsutomi Sakuma wrote:Rivr Luzade wrote:Drigo Segvian wrote:So how much was the increase if any? $1, $2 a month? $19.99 a plex?
I spend more on a burger and fries for me and my wife.... #nopoors A lot more than you think. Just compare these 2 pictures: Old PLEX Prices vs. New PLEX prices. For instance: You got 6 full months of Game Time before the changes, now you only get 5 Months and 72% of the 6th month of game time. That's a lot more than than just 1 or 2 dollars per month in increased cost, infact, it's more than 5 USD on the 6th month that you need to spend extra because you did not get a full month of subscription value. Those old prices were during a goddamn sale - not even a valid comparison. Math is hard, I get it... New PLEX price is 440 for $19.99 - You are counting the "free" plex given that is not part of the price you pay. The current offering is a SALE price just like the other sale price because some of the PLEX you receive is FREE....
Math is not hard - twisting numbers to suit your argument on the other hand... |
AFK Hauler
State War Academy
1213
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Posted - 2017.05.11 14:13:47 -
[196] - Quote
Tsutomi Sakuma wrote:AFK Hauler wrote:Tsutomi Sakuma wrote:Rivr Luzade wrote:Drigo Segvian wrote:So how much was the increase if any? $1, $2 a month? $19.99 a plex?
I spend more on a burger and fries for me and my wife.... #nopoors A lot more than you think. Just compare these 2 pictures: Old PLEX Prices vs. New PLEX prices. For instance: You got 6 full months of Game Time before the changes, now you only get 5 Months and 72% of the 6th month of game time. That's a lot more than than just 1 or 2 dollars per month in increased cost, infact, it's more than 5 USD on the 6th month that you need to spend extra because you did not get a full month of subscription value. Those old prices were during a goddamn sale - not even a valid comparison. Math is hard, I get it... New PLEX price is 440 for $19.99 - You are counting the "free" plex given that is not part of the price you pay. The current offering is a SALE price just like the other sale price because some of the PLEX you receive is FREE.... Math is not hard - twisting numbers to suit your argument on the other hand...
Numbers are numbers, they can't be twisted. Only someone who doesn't understand would see it that way.
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Jommis
Vestlandsfanden
115
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Posted - 2017.05.11 14:22:13 -
[197] - Quote
I want the old probe scanner back... |
Alia Nadasdy
Imperial's Capsulers
9
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Posted - 2017.05.11 14:36:27 -
[198] - Quote
Jommis wrote:I want the old probe scanner back... You have to suffer (-ü)
"We are the Harbingers of hope, We are the Sword of the Righteous"
"We are a shadow of the former greatness of the Empire"
Purist Lord Admiral Victor
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Sagara Mithril
Cro-Magnons Cavemen.
5
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Posted - 2017.05.11 15:48:32 -
[199] - Quote
No point in breaking the PLEX into 500 parts if you can't activate 1.4 hours of Omega time with 1 plex. WAKE UP CCP, this would be a nice change for PLEX... |
Duo Roman
Warp Nomads
41
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Posted - 2017.05.11 16:12:44 -
[200] - Quote
Algarion Getz wrote:The game costs 15$ a month, not 10$.
It's 10.95USD if you get a full year of subscription. Wait for deals (like the 120days of multiple character training they did recently) and it may be even better. |
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Dominous Nolen
V0LTA WE FORM V0LTA
309
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Posted - 2017.05.11 16:16:05 -
[201] - Quote
Que Ess wrote:Bring back Advanced Audio.
The game is unplayable with audio enabled now.
Feedback thread here >> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6937590#post6937590
@dominousnolen
"Fly dangerously, Fly safe, Fly whatever, just keep Flying." - Lee Blackwood
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Dominous Nolen
V0LTA WE FORM V0LTA
309
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Posted - 2017.05.11 17:18:25 -
[202] - Quote
Quote:From patch notes:
Miscellaneous:
YC119 Capsuleer Day Pod SKIN can now be applied to Capsule - Genolution 'Auroral' 197-variant. Upwell Capsule SKIN and Palatine Capsule SKIN now yield correct market search result when searching from the fitting window.
Any chance there are changes in the works to make these apply permanently after a ship destruction? Right now the skins are more of a novelty item then anything else because you have to keep applying it after every ship swap.
@dominousnolen
"Fly dangerously, Fly safe, Fly whatever, just keep Flying." - Lee Blackwood
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Liu Mayaki
Nomen Est Omen Bright Side of Death
0
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Posted - 2017.05.11 20:20:15 -
[203] - Quote
It would be interesting to know who was the master-mind of this insane sound changes. Had anybody ever seen such sound requests in eve forum?
First you messend with scanning. Not only UI was changed, but suddenly were added strange noises (when moving probes), unbearable D-scan sound (could drive you mad in minutes), and even moving thhings in containers. Why should I hear noise why just holding left button before dropping thing in another container? So all widely used (thousand times per hour by every player) deeds are sounded. What have we done to CCP for such punishment? Even the most mild person could gone crazy hearing all this bangs and whistles for just several hours. For several month community cried about sound rollback or at least adding a separate volume control for scanning. Nope. We used a workaround to mute UI interface. And now what even that is gone. Totally. So now we had to mute all "Secondary interfaces".
119.5. 1) Sound rollback is needed. 2) Get the rid of PLEX-vault out of inventory, or move it under filter tab. 3) Why F9 scanning map is showing a tiny system in the center using 1/10 of window? 4) Scanning interface is slow, both previous were better. 5) Why signature ID's stil not saved with "Save Location"? What's the difficulty?
And please stop adding useless sounds! |
Nel Arc
Perkone Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2017.05.11 20:32:14 -
[204] - Quote
Algarion Getz wrote:Andre Iv wrote:Terrible patch. That annoying "clicking" mouse sound back with no ability to deactivate it without turninng off all interface sound CPU usage grew up. Played last year with 4 character with no problem with all accounts online, after patch even with two windows my notebook is heating to 80C (even on minimal) The only useful change is contracts time rised to 4 weeks.
I have the same problem! On my old laptop, Win10 x64 Home, 4 EVE clients running Before the patch: CPU usage 40-50% After the patch: CPU usage 80-90% The graphics settings have not changed. Also, why would you remove options from the audio tab??? Has anyone ever complained that there are too many options? Also, the launcher keeps forgeting accounts again.
The same problem with 2 accounts - unreal CCP - you make it harsh for palyers and difficult to keep up with patchmistakes generated by your USemployees dominated workforces. Kick lordly fozzies and other dreamers, make eve a european fine game again- not a patchwork of reddit screeming want/need trolles game. |
Dominous Nolen
V0LTA WE FORM V0LTA
309
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Posted - 2017.05.11 20:50:40 -
[205] - Quote
Nel Arc wrote:
The same problem with 2 accounts - unreal CCP - you make it harsh for palyers and difficult to keep up with patchmistakes generated by your USemployees dominated workforces. Kick lordly fozzies and other dreamers, make eve a european fine game again- not a patchwork of reddit screeming want/need trolles game.
I.... I don't even... WAT?!
@dominousnolen
"Fly dangerously, Fly safe, Fly whatever, just keep Flying." - Lee Blackwood
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CopyCatz
Sienar Fleet Systems
85
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Posted - 2017.05.11 21:41:45 -
[206] - Quote
Bowhead blood raider skin still not added to market... |
Mokada Akiga
Bah Weep Grah Na Weep Mini Bahm
5
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Posted - 2017.05.11 22:36:50 -
[207] - Quote
Thora Unni wrote:AFK Hauler wrote:At the current valuation of PLEX - to make the new PLEX the same as the oldplex, the price should be $17.60 for 440, or get rid of the "13% bonus" garbage.
If CCP really wanted to give 13% bonus for the same PLEX valuation, then $19.99 would get 565 PLEX.
That is the normal pricing set up for a number of MMOs 19.99 for 1 plex was the old cost. (enough for a month of play time) now 500 plex which costs 19.99 is enough for a month of play time. if you want to buy less plex the cost goes up, if you want to buy more plex the cost goes down. You can't market it that way though. So you start at the lowest amount of plex you can buy and call that the base rate and then give a "discount" in "free plex" to each tier above. The Real finger to people comes in that you can not buy 6 old plex of nu plex exactly IIRC it was 105 You have to buy 99.99 worth of nuplex (2860) which is 140 plex shy. That means you have to spend $9.99 more to get 240 plex leaving you with 100 plex left over and while spending $5 Meaning you spend 109.99 for 3100 plex Or 28.185plex for each dollar The old system was 104.99 for 3000 plex (equivalent) or 28.57plex for each dollar. meaning it is cheaper per plex but you have to spend more over all. That is the scam. Force people to buy more than they want and spend more for it. While saying it is actually cheaper per unit. I don't know the cost of AUR so I don't know how nuplex in amounts under 500 compare to it and the value of items. More so it has resulted in a devaluation of ISK to USD because the cost of 500plex is almost universally more expensive than 1 plex was prior and that will likely not change because after all this is a game where the general goal for many is to screw people over as much as you can.
exactly, they are ******* us up the ass on the price of plex. Again we all need to boycott for 3m and cancel subs. only then will they listen
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Mokada Akiga
Bah Weep Grah Na Weep Mini Bahm
5
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Posted - 2017.05.11 22:43:01 -
[208] - Quote
Tsutomi Sakuma wrote:AFK Hauler wrote:Tsutomi Sakuma wrote:Rivr Luzade wrote:Drigo Segvian wrote:So how much was the increase if any? $1, $2 a month? $19.99 a plex?
I spend more on a burger and fries for me and my wife.... #nopoors A lot more than you think. Just compare these 2 pictures: Old PLEX Prices vs. New PLEX prices. For instance: You got 6 full months of Game Time before the changes, now you only get 5 Months and 72% of the 6th month of game time. That's a lot more than than just 1 or 2 dollars per month in increased cost, infact, it's more than 5 USD on the 6th month that you need to spend extra because you did not get a full month of subscription value. Those old prices were during a goddamn sale - not even a valid comparison. Math is hard, I get it... New PLEX price is 440 for $19.99 - You are counting the "free" plex given that is not part of the price you pay. The current offering is a SALE price just like the other sale price because some of the PLEX you receive is FREE.... Math is not hard - twisting numbers to suit your argument on the other hand...
The problem with something that is free is that it can be stopped or taken away too. so the BASE of 440 plex for $19.99 is the PRICE of plex and what you are getting. So when they stop the free plex, and they will only a matter of time, you will then need to spend 24.98 to get 1m of game time which is pure bullshit. W
WHOEVER did this needs shot, strung up by the balls or ****, tared, feather and then covered in honey and dropped onto of a fire ant hill for this bad idea. And the dopes of CCP who also thought this would go over well should have the same thing done to them. |
Ocean Ormand
Bagel and Lox
62
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Posted - 2017.05.12 00:33:03 -
[209] - Quote
The new probing system doesnt work - while it looks good - it is simply too cluttered with fluff to be actually useful probing Unreadable
As can be seen the image is simply unreadable. Its well past time that ccp learns that less is more; that a map needs to be clear and legible to be functional. |
Helene Fidard
CTRL-Q
54
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Posted - 2017.05.12 01:00:53 -
[210] - Quote
Dominous Nolen wrote:Nel Arc wrote:
The same problem with 2 accounts - unreal CCP - you make it harsh for palyers and difficult to keep up with patchmistakes generated by your USemployees dominated workforces. Kick lordly fozzies and other dreamers, make eve a european fine game again- not a patchwork of reddit screeming want/need trolles game.
I.... I don't even... WAT?! Lordly Fozzie and the Other Dreamers are definitely one of the more influential usamerican groups but their concept album Svipul and the Balanced Legion from Space was a critical flop on release.
Hey! I don't know about you
but I'm joining CTRL-Q
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Mona Me
One MB Again
10
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Posted - 2017.05.12 02:51:02 -
[211] - Quote
Personally, I don't care about the plex change. If your buying plex with RL cash for game time vs the 14.99 per month or yearly-ásubscription, then it's your fault your paying to much. "Bitter old Vets" will remember the Asian sweat shops that used to sell ISK for RL cash so Plex was a necessary evil.
I don't care about the sound screw up. I'm so used to them screwing up the game and using the player base to do their beta testing for them, I'm over it. I only turn on any sounds when I'm camping a WH.
I do care what they did with the probe screen. The only thing I don't like about it is it takes longer now to probe someone down. I don't like that I have to use the probe size scale. When probing down a target, every second counts. The old system where I could use the curser to expand or contract the sphere size was a faster way of doing it. |
Andrian Dallocort
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2017.05.12 07:43:26 -
[212] - Quote
Algarion Getz wrote:Andrian Dallocort wrote:I don't understand why people are so upset about a fairly small (10%? 20%?) change in the game money cost to receive free game play.
Its a bad idea that CCP ever allowed anyone to play without paying a monthly subscription cost in real money. Everyone playing EVE should be paying the same amount to play, per character or per account. It seems like a spoiled brat reaction to be stomping feet and threatening to take your toys and go home (ie quit playing EVE) because of a small percentage change. Would it be so wrong, bad, or outrageous if CCP just said they were not going to give away free play anymore and everyone had to pay $10 per month to play? That's not a lot of money, especially compared to the play value obtained by serious players.
There should be no cross-mixing of game and real money, in either direction. Players should not be able to pay real money to have in-game advantages nor should CCP pay players to play the game by giving them free play at some level of achievement, measured using game money.
Keep it pure. Mixing real money and game money is a recipe for ruining a game. CCP should step away from the edge and keep the game honest. We players should help them by embracing paying our fair share in monthly fees in real money so they can run the business, but discouraging the practice of pay-for-advantage.
The game costs 15$ a month, not 10$. In the USA, 15$ might not be a lot of money, but not every country has the same income level as the USA. In many eastern European countries for example, people earn 3-4 times less than in people in the USA, so 15$ are like 60$. So when you run multiple accounts, like most EVE players do, the game costs 120$ or more per month. PLEX is a great solution for that problem. Pay-for-advantage is bad, i agree, but i dont see a way to sell game time for ISK without a PLEX (real money) to ISK conversion.
Yeah, the subscription fee varies $10.95 -14.95 per month, depending on how long you commit. And I agree that amount is effectively more in some places than others. Maybe CCP should charge different amounts in different countries. But I don't think they have an obligation to give away free play to anyone and I don't think the answer to some players having less money is to have a system to avoid paying. Mostly I think this is an unhealthy distortion of the game. I guess the only almost good justification is if the game would be damaged significantly if it lost some of these heavy players who can't/won't pay any real money. Online games tend to have to start giving away play a lot as they begin to decline to delay the "player shortage collapse".
Consider that if everyone paid a subscription fee then CCP could lower the fee and achieve the same revenue. I wonder how many players are not paying? Those who do pay subscriptions are paying more to subsidize all the free players.
With regard to people choosing to operate multiple accounts, many characters, multiple simultaneous sessions, etc, these practices should be considered an exploit and not EVE standard practice for advanced players. Any method for a single person to train multiple characters in parallel, to effectively bypass the intended training progression rate, or play with multiple ships simultaneously despite playing solo, are counter to major aspects of the game design. Shouldn't even be allowed so I don't have sympathy for the cost impact of running multiple accounts to circumvent the intended design of the game. Even if CCP allows the practice due to be corrupted by wanting the extra revenue.
Anyway, I'm obviously idealistic about this. :)
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AgentMaster
Platinum Octopus Infernal Octopus
7
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Posted - 2017.05.12 17:16:35 -
[213] - Quote
What are these stupid gongs on undock? Bam Bam ?! Whu need that?!?
Blessed is the man who has nothing to say and remain silent yet!!
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marly cortez
Mercurialis Inc. The Bastion
181
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Posted - 2017.05.13 11:45:04 -
[214] - Quote
AgentMaster wrote:What are these stupid gongs on undock? Bam Bam ?! Whu need that?!?
Turned off Eve Sounds years ago, not going to play the bing bong game with CCP Devs that have not one clue about how players actually as it stands are forced in the most part to play the game at all, last thing they needed was all the crud currently piled on in the sound department,
Don't care about plex, never spent a single Arrum while they were about, will never use CQ or the Nex store and only ever used the wretched log in facility when I was forced to do so, I pay cash for the game and object strongly to CCP trying to sell me crud I would never even consider buying.
What I do care about is being able to play the game simply and easily, Probe screen is a PITA, simple as that, badly designed over engineered and simply useless from what most players want to use it for, the the guy that thought it up needs to consider a different career, maybe Cartoon artist...That CCP forced this abomination on the players with no options only goes to highlight how little they actually listen to them at all, My guess is that 3D map will be there next gift,,,Odd when you actually think about it though, a 3D map in a 2D game.
Have we all not seen this before though, Box ticking Dev's rushing unfinished features into the game because the timetable says they should, not only if they actually work correctly, but no matter, they continue to load up the game with badly written code or because some detached focus group agrees it's a good idea all reducing player satisfaction in pursuit of some as yet to be revealed goal.
CCP may not care about player game satisfaction but the players certainly do, the list of vacant names long moved on due to CCP's attitude towards the paying customer should have been a lesson to be learned in regards what not to do, seems it fell on deaf ears.
Humanity is the thin veneer that remains after you remove the baffled chimp.
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nurasd
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2017.05.13 18:25:13 -
[215] - Quote
Please bring back the account's remaining Omega time back ingame to the character sheet in the pilot's services tab. You used to show it and are showing additional training queue times, no reason not to show this. |
ugh zug
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
123
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Posted - 2017.05.14 08:12:47 -
[216] - Quote
the new blood raider content and future pirate factions.... bpc's dropped are bound to be stripped away from the linemen and given to the leadership of whoever runs them ultimately resulting in much effort with little reward for the majority of players running these complexes. At least give decent lp and bounty payout for the groups completing the objective, or a bid system for the pilots in the winning fleet to bid/roll on the rewards to be redeemed on the account. rewarding the players participating is something incursions at least did well. the advanced AI is cool and everything but if the said npcs are going to be causing tidi then is it really worth it? consider how many factions are going to get this system in the future... can your servers handle it?
tldr new blood raider system needs more iteration and should support everyone that completes the content. npc ai thinking complexity should be reduced.
plex changes, if i can't use it remotely much like i do with extractors/injectors/old plex then it's a pita and should burn in a fire. the fact that you are pushing so hard for micro transactions in a subscription game is somewhat infuriating but i can see why a company would milk it's customers for all their worth.
suns/skins, more filler content.
Want me to shut up?
Remove content from my post,1B.
Remove my content from a thread I have started 2B.
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Espejo Roto
0
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Posted - 2017.05.14 10:04:43 -
[217] - Quote
I don't intend to just add to the _very predictable feedback_ on what CCP are doing, but -
Having the perspective of having played/paid this game for a decade, I can tell you that this is one of the moments where they will look at what we do and less of what we say.
Walls of text get skipped, and arguing will just entrench golden geese into their current position on the matter.
Simultaneously granularizing and revaluating PLEX only serves one long term agenda. The immediate effect is to desensitize.
Either jump out of the pot until the water cools down, or get used to the smell of boiling frog. |
Paula Myok
Prime Forces The Methodical Alliance
12
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Posted - 2017.05.14 11:00:12 -
[218] - Quote
RankOutsider wrote:What happened to donating game time to other characters? I used to use a jita Alt to buy old-time PLEX and then donate that to alts on my other accounts, I don't see how to do that am I missing something?
Yes this ^^^^^
Give me back the advanced sound controls !!!! Now !!!! Not everyone in EVE is as dumb as you think !!!
Your programmers should not take the easy way out. Do your work and give us even MORE sound control not less !!! |
Nantis
Caldari Scientific Research
0
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Posted - 2017.05.14 16:02:39 -
[219] - Quote
nurasd wrote:Please bring back the account's remaining Omega time back ingame to the character sheet in the pilot's services tab.
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Ninaa Ohmiras
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2017.05.14 21:56:12 -
[220] - Quote
The new scanning window has some strange/unusual "UI language" when adding/using extra probe formations.
For the longest time, I assumed that the pop-up text on the third icon/button at the bottom was a helpful hint popup. It looks similar enough to the ones next to it, "Launch Pinpoint Formation" and "Launch Spread Formation", so I assumed that "+ Save Current Formation" was a tooltip as well, and wondered why nothing happened when I clicked the icon button.
INSTEAD, it turns out that that third popup is not a helpful hint, but an action menu. Styled to look like a hint.
Would it be an idea to make the function and format more clear? Perhaps add a triangle next to it to indicate it's more than an action button. The UI right now had me trying to figure it out for a couple of days (and it's one of those things that once you've discovered it, it's pretty clear ... but it's very unclear how to initially discover it) |
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Chan'aar
State War Academy Caldari State
107
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Posted - 2017.05.16 12:36:57 -
[221] - Quote
I appear to have lost all client side notifications of how much plex/omega time I have left on my account.
This used to be visible on the character selection screen and in the character sheet, now, nothing. |
Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
33530
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Posted - 2017.05.16 12:52:04 -
[222] - Quote
Chan'aar wrote:I appear to have lost all client side notifications of how much plex/omega time I have left on my account.
This used to be visible on the character selection screen and in the character sheet, now, nothing. Maybe this is what CCP considers fixed?
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Blade Darth
Room for Improvement Limited Expectations
114
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Posted - 2017.05.16 18:51:47 -
[223] - Quote
Plex should be an item in inventory, not some "vault" that shows up in every inventory window as it would be something more important than drones or ship equipment. Are we shooting "plex ammo" or spend it to warp faster or something? (heavy sarcasm, those are not ideas!).
I understand some players could be confused about perma-loss and dying with plex in cargo, but the game features include "estimated cargo value", "DPS" and "effective hitpoints" so people with IQ above 70 that can divide and add 2+2 presumably came to the conclusion that undocking with 10 billion estimated cargo and 3.000 EHP is a bad idea. As for the rest, they won't be able to put plex in the vault anyway, that requires at least 3 brain cells to do. You guys try to dumb down the game so even amebas can play it?
I dig the rest of the update, including merging plex with AUR and the structure billboards (troll potential). |
Sadira Higgs
Crab
0
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Posted - 2017.05.16 21:37:47 -
[224] - Quote
Chan'aar wrote:I appear to have lost all client side notifications of how much plex/omega time I have left on my account.
This used to be visible on the character selection screen and in the character sheet, now, nothing.
This is such a dumb change i cant even comprehend the logic behind it.... |
Andrian Dallocort
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2017.05.16 21:46:43 -
[225] - Quote
I'd like to see some responses from a CCP employee to the this 119.5 feedback forum, which I presume was created by CCP with the intent of collecting feedback.
CCP reps, even if you cannot commit to granting any of the requests on a feedback forum, and even if you disagree with them, you should at least post occasionally to show that you are reading the feedback and explain how you are passing it back to developers and tracking the topics for resolution.
There are clearly ~5 main feedback topics that have been repeatedly discussed on this thread and raised by multiple customers so they warrant a timely response from CCP.
Otherwise just close the thread and post a sign saying CCP is not interested in feedback.
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Sgt Ocker
What Corp is it
1362
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Posted - 2017.05.16 23:15:05 -
[226] - Quote
Andrian Dallocort wrote:I'd like to see some responses from a CCP employee to the this 119.5 feedback forum, which I presume was created by CCP with the intent of collecting feedback.
CCP reps, even if you cannot commit to granting any of the requests on a feedback forum, and even if you disagree with them, you should at least post occasionally to show that you are reading the feedback and explain how you are passing it back to developers and tracking the topics for resolution.
There are clearly ~5 main feedback topics that have been repeatedly discussed on this thread and raised by multiple customers so they warrant a timely response from CCP.
Otherwise just close the thread and post a sign saying CCP is not interested in feedback.
Great sentiment - Sadly that is NOT how feedback threads work on these forums.
Devs say they do monitor their threads regarding feedback and to their credit some changes have been made over the years due to feedback. It is a rare thing though for Devs to take general feedback seriously and Never will you see a Dev post in one of their own threads unless it is to acknowledge the minority who believe Devs can do no wrong.
I'm still waiting for the day I can remotely view contents of cans/ships in the new structures. I imagine that will be a long time coming, if ever.
Several Fanfests ago CCP Seagul told us all, communication between Devs and players would get better - Still waiting..
My opinions are mine.
If you don't like them or disagree with me that's OK.- - - - - -
Just don't bother Hating - I don't care
It really is getting harder and harder to justify $23 a month for each sub.
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Deus Reliquit
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
4
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Posted - 2017.05.17 01:27:39 -
[227] - Quote
Sgt Ocker wrote:Andrian Dallocort wrote:I'd like to see some responses from a CCP employee to the this 119.5 feedback forum, which I presume was created by CCP with the intent of collecting feedback.
CCP reps, even if you cannot commit to granting any of the requests on a feedback forum, and even if you disagree with them, you should at least post occasionally to show that you are reading the feedback and explain how you are passing it back to developers and tracking the topics for resolution.
There are clearly ~5 main feedback topics that have been repeatedly discussed on this thread and raised by multiple customers so they warrant a timely response from CCP.
Otherwise just close the thread and post a sign saying CCP is not interested in feedback.
Great sentiment - Sadly that is NOT how feedback threads work on these forums. Devs say they do monitor their threads regarding feedback and to their credit some changes have been made over the years due to feedback. It is a rare thing though for Devs to take general feedback seriously and Never will you see a Dev post in one of their own threads unless it is to acknowledge the minority who believe Devs can do no wrong. I'm still waiting for the day I can remotely view contents of cans/ships in the new structures. I imagine that will be a long time coming, if ever. Several Fanfests ago CCP Seagul told us all, communication between Devs and players would get better - Still waiting..
I have a feeling there must be some kind of Icelandic holiday? Been quite since last week. Really wish they would stop saying "Successfully Launched" after every update and just say "Launched like a turd sandwich" ! |
Dominous Nolen
V0LTA WE FORM V0LTA
315
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Posted - 2017.05.17 06:57:43 -
[228] - Quote
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6926596#post6926596
Relinking from 119.3 thread.
EBR was closed again, asking for info and no time to respond.
I'm still having my overview pushed down from the upper right corner on every new login in a citadel and the fact the tickets keep getting closed is getting to be a bit much.
I've reset the window position of the character impacted in game, still happening.
Thankfully I've been able to get some info the dev team, but if I hadn't I'd have to leave another EBR with the bug hunters to close yet again.
I gave you video, still images as proof of the issue along with the relevant log info.
@dominousnolen
"Fly dangerously, Fly safe, Fly whatever, just keep Flying." - Lee Blackwood
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March rabbit
Mosquito Squadron The-Culture
2177
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Posted - 2017.05.17 13:04:47 -
[229] - Quote
Sgt Ocker wrote:Several Fanfests ago CCP Seagul told us all, communication between Devs and players would get better - Still waiting.. Well... Maybe on FanFest communication is Ok? You know: the only group of "players"(*) CCP cares enough?
Note: writing "players" this way i indicate that i personally have suspicion that most of those attendees are not even EvE players anymore. They were at some point but left the game long ago and only attend FanFest to meet friends. I could be wrong for sure.
The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
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Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
33580
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Posted - 2017.05.17 14:29:35 -
[230] - Quote
I would say you have to be there to get the feels of it. Now when they are not around to sell you their version of reality, the live game bites back and you feel empty inside. Like a deflated love doll abandoned in a trash can.
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Rin Aiko
CVT IND
0
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Posted - 2017.05.17 23:15:40 -
[231] - Quote
So how do I activate plex now? Its in my vault but no option. |
Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
33608
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Posted - 2017.05.18 09:14:16 -
[232] - Quote
If you dropped the PLEX into the Vault, then you can visit New Eden Store and buy those fancy clothes or SKINs or Omega time.
Items will get into your redeem system and the Omega clone activation will add 30 days of Omega clone on account. Omega time left on your account will be only visible in your account management site on web unfortunately. They removed the Omega timers from game as for now.
How CCP is programming things.
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Lara Agnon
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
27
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Posted - 2017.05.19 16:08:57 -
[233] - Quote
Nana Skalski wrote:They removed the Omega timers from game as for now. And I refused to add Omega time as for now. At least until I can see what I have purchased ingame.
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Marcus Tedric
Zebra Corp Goonswarm Federation
130
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Posted - 2017.05.23 10:41:00 -
[234] - Quote
Patch Notes for today are out....
- And there are NO fixes for all the PLEX issues?
Don't soil your panties, you guys made a good point, we'll look at the numbers again. - CCP Ytterbium
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Janeway84
Insane's Asylum Evil Monkies Incorporated
185
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Posted - 2017.05.30 08:11:56 -
[235] - Quote
Besides the t3 c changes Will you guys release some devblogs on what modules and stuff you will be balancing , releasing this summer that you mentioned at fanfest? |
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
2054
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Posted - 2017.05.31 18:13:58 -
[236] - Quote
So, i gifted 1000 plex each to two alt accounts.
Their sub was about to expire along with the extra training queue.
There is no plex in these accounts vaults.
The only way i can seem to see the account status of these accounts is the account management page.
30 days has been added to each account (so the system assumed these gifted plex was for game time). But the other 500 plex per account seems unaccounted for. Where did they go? |
Dominous Nolen
V0LTA WE FORM V0LTA
320
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Posted - 2017.06.01 14:45:36 -
[237] - Quote
Why am I now forced to buy stuff through the Steam store if i'm launching the game from there to track time in game spent on my steam profile rather then be able to buy stuff directly from your store? It's another point of potential transaction delay.
@dominousnolen
"Fly dangerously, Fly safe, Fly whatever, just keep Flying." - Lee Blackwood
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Mollie Mormon
Interstellar Consciousness
31
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Posted - 2017.06.01 19:28:38 -
[238] - Quote
Andrian Dallocort wrote:Otherwise just close the thread and post a sign saying CCP is not interested in feedback. That about sums it up.
+1
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Rivr Luzade
Kenshin. DARKNESS.
3049
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Posted - 2017.06.03 19:14:57 -
[239] - Quote
Patch Notes wrote:To improve the performance of the war history tab of alliance/corporation show info windows when more than 100 finished wars exist, they will be divided into years and loaded separately when expanded. I just noticed this and it's amazing. No worries any longer that opening the Wars tab of Marmite or VMG kills your client.
UI Improvement Collective
My ridicule, heavy criticism and general pale outlook about your or CCP's ideas is nothing but an encouragement to prove me wrong. Give it a try.
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Haseo Antares
Production N Destruction INC.
81
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Posted - 2017.06.04 13:07:12 -
[240] - Quote
I started playing EVE every day back in 2010. Back then there were about 50,000 people logged into EVE at any given time. I started playing primary because I love space games. I have been playing on and off for nearly 7 years now. With the exception of the Incursion fiasco and $1000 space pants, I always enjoyed playing EVE. Late last year, before I took a break from online gaming - EVE was my go to game.
Fast forward to the present. A couple days ago, I logged in for the first time in about 9 months and did enjoy the experience. My first gripe is that Aura's voice was replaced with...whatever is there now. Aura's voice was soothing and gave the game a futuristic feel. This new person sounds extremely mechanical and as if she was reading from a script. At first this seemed minor but, after a short while it became grating. The simple act of warping is much less enjoyable then it was 9 months ago.
After a bit of research, I discovered that this unfortunate change was permanent. It would appear that the Devs are not keen on reverting this change. Perhaps for whatever reason the old voice actor is no longer available and for continuity purposes the Devs decided to do a complete overhaul. Or perhaps they Devs think this new voice is a good replacement. In either event one thing is clear - feedback on this change is being ignored.
This one seemingly minor change shouldn't have a major impact on the game - but it does. Why? This is just my opinion, but I believe that there are two primary reasons: (1) It negatively impacts player experience; (2) More importantly, it shows that the Devs are ignoring player feedback. When the Incursion fiasco occurred, players were passionate enough to stage protests (i.e. burn Jita). It is clear that that passion is not nearly as strong as it once was. Rather then protesting - people are simply leaving.
I understand that CCP has to modernize its product, however, it should not do so at the expense of game experience. Players like myself may come off as whiny or entitled when we "complain" about a course of action CCP takes but there is a reason for it. The reason is we care about the game and want it to succeed. The new voice is a small change which has a big impact - at least for me.
I have 3 accounts which I used to sub nearly every month for 6 years or so. CCP will not get anymore of my money if they continue to degrade the experience. On a positive note, I must say I like my alpha clones.
We currently have the world's greatest linguists and scientists trying to decode whatn++ you just said.
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Callum Perkins
Omni Galactic Central Omni Galactic Group
3
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Posted - 2017.06.05 12:55:14 -
[241] - Quote
Got to be honest I love changes to EVE and everything but I do think the plex change was a bad move. Probably best to change it back. |
Xerxes Fehrnah
The Dysfunctionals Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2017.06.11 05:07:15 -
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It's been a month and two days, and I still prefer the old audio settings controls. They I can't stop the station noises in the background without giving up others sounds I want and need the way I used to be able to do. |
Dominous Nolen
V0LTA WE FORM V0LTA
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Posted - 2017.06.13 13:51:36 -
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Xerxes Fehrnah wrote:It's been a month and two days, and I still prefer the old audio settings controls. They I can't stop the station noises in the background without giving up others sounds I want and need the way I used to be able to do.
There is a seperate thread for the audio changes Here
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"Fly dangerously, Fly safe, Fly whatever, just keep Flying." - Lee Blackwood
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Mollie Mormon
Interstellar Consciousness
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Posted - 2017.06.15 19:02:49 -
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Dominous Nolen wrote:There is a seperate thread for the audio changes Here Twelve of anything can be considered a dozen.
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Davina Sienar
The Misinterpretation of Silence
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Posted - 2017.07.24 19:29:12 -
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someone wrote:
Quote: about concord ships After a limited period of timed exclusivity these ships will become available to other capsuleers in the future. awesome, let the fanfest ppl have first dibs but allow us poor mortals to have a crack at them as well .... i like it, it's better than exclusivity, as that would push them in the realms of AT ships in terms of price, and it would be a rather unfair reward
... hm dont think so. Fanfest Tickets are like 200$~ So something that was very unique is in Game as a Reward for half AFK Miners and Jita Spambots just for klicking on some wave images ? no not fair That Project is about space exploration... should hand out the old Zephyr or SOE Skins or whatever
Now you can givaway Golden / Silver Magnate also again as Rewards for next Event f.e. |
Davina Sienar
The Misinterpretation of Silence
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Posted - 2017.07.24 22:17:03 -
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Davina Sienar
The Misinterpretation of Silence
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Posted - 2017.07.24 22:24:52 -
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Mona Me wrote:Personally, I don't care about the plex change. If your buying plex with RL cash for game time vs the 14.99 per month or yearly-ásubscription, then it's your fault your paying to much. "Bitter old Vets" will remember the Asian sweat shops that used to sell ISK for RL cash so Plex was a necessary evil.
I don't care about the sound screw up. I'm so used to them screwing up the game and using the player base to do their beta testing for them, I'm over it. I only turn on any sounds when I'm camping a WH.
I do care what they did with the probe screen. The only thing I don't like about it is it takes longer now to probe someone down. I don't like that I have to use the probe size scale. When probing down a target, every second counts. The old system where I could use the curser to expand or contract the sphere size was a faster way of doing it.
There is not enough incentive for the player base to use the test server to help further the game. It's just a game. We log on to beat our heads against the keyboard because in the end, we had fun!-áIt's not the job of a-ápaying-ásubscribing-áplayer to do the dev's team work for them without something in return. WE-áPAY to play, not pay to work for them.
Hence, most of us don't bother. I would suggest a better reward for Bata testing on the test server-áin the future.-á(I could care less about 2 mil skill pts on the test server, what good is that on Tranquility? They seem to forget simple human nature.)
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