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CMDR-HerpyDerpy Hurishima
Debitum Naturae Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2017.05.10 02:20:30 -
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Just a random thought i figured i should post and get opinions on. What would everyone think/say about a relaunched EVE, better graphics, better everything basically, modern day technology, modern servers and even better effects, even more content like for instance a bigger playable space (not that it isnt already large) even MORE indepth gameplay/roleplay. Not sure if it would sky rocket or flop thats why im asking for peoples thoughts and opinions.
All responses are welcome Not trying to cause conflict just genuinely curious. |
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
47747
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Posted - 2017.05.10 02:26:01 -
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'Better' is very subjective. What better graphics? What better technologies?
What's lacking specifically in the current graphics and technologies.
What servers are going to be more modern than the current TQ3? |
Chewytowel Haklar
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
331
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Posted - 2017.05.10 02:28:33 -
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I genuinely think that Eve doesn't have enough sandbox elements to it. So, if there were ever an Eve 2.0 I would want more sandbox and far less hand holding in the game. There would be no empire space, no already placed stargates, and you would perhaps have even more control over how you want to build your own ship. The only thing that strikes me as a true sandbox in this game are the economies, alliances/coalitions, and their military doctrines. |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
10993
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Posted - 2017.05.10 02:30:10 -
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I don't know about better, but it would sure be interesting to see EVE 2 simply because you wouldn't have an entrenched minority of bitter vets calling the shots.
Mr Epeen
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Pix Severus
Empty You
6451
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Posted - 2017.05.10 02:30:57 -
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While better graphics and performance would be nice, I don't think those features are worth losing everything else about the current EVE.
You can guarantee that creation of a new EVE would be an excuse to make WoW in space, losing any soul this game once had.
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Lulu Lunette
Savage Moon Society
1591
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Posted - 2017.05.10 02:32:57 -
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I'd probably take Eve Two as a good enough reason to give up on Eve One and MMO's in general.
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Coralas
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
105
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Posted - 2017.05.10 02:42:58 -
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It would split their userbase and kill both new and old EVE, through lack of required numbers to fill out either game, the old userbase would know that EVE 1 was not going to be further developed, and many would not like to start again and thus they wouldn't be found on either server fairly quickly.
In any case, its faster to improve EVE than rewrite everything, and the current developers have a stronger maintainability focus than the original team.
I'd also love to play an EVE "season", where a fresh empty server is up that everyone is starting from scratch on ala a diablo 3 season, but that would also split the user base. Also injectors would now serve to short circuit access to capitals, which would prevent a fresh server from having a "golden age" of purely precapital combat.
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Magnus Jax
30
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Posted - 2017.05.10 03:02:51 -
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We're on EVE 5 atm, continuously improving and updating.
Don't ask for things you don't understand, you might just actually get what you asked for. |
Bjorn Tyrson
EVE University Ivy League
575
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Posted - 2017.05.10 03:05:31 -
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Its like the Ship of Theseus, how much of the original game and coding needs to be changed for it to count as a new game?
the graphics have been overhauled several times now, most of the ships have been updated, mechanics reworked. and much of the legacy code nuked. we pretty much are in eve 2.0 at this point, or at least shortly will be. |
Lulu Lunette
Savage Moon Society
1593
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Posted - 2017.05.10 03:11:07 -
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Eve 2 would be like when Square Enix made Final Fantasy 14. There was still development and expansions on the horizon for Final Fantasy 11. There's still debates today over which game is better but unfortunately all that they did was set up their own competition internally .. (at least it's the same wallet)
The posters saying it would create a split house, yes that is exactly what happened to another franchise basically.
@lunettelulu7
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Vortexo VonBrenner
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation
2850
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Posted - 2017.05.10 04:24:25 -
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Upgrade servers? Hamster-powered aint good enough for ya? Very well.
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Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
33306
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Posted - 2017.05.10 05:53:35 -
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Hilmar have said in the interview that it doesnt make sense to do EVE 2, like it doesnt make sense to do facebook 2.
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Tanuki Kittybeta
Ripperoni in Pepperoni Trigger Warnings
136
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Posted - 2017.05.10 06:04:40 -
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eve 2 will finally have cat ears |
Jacques d'Orleans
3159
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Posted - 2017.05.10 06:49:43 -
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CMDR-HerpyDerpy Hurishima wrote:Just a random thought i figured i should post and get opinions on. What would everyone think/say about a relaunched EVE, better graphics, better everything basically, modern day technology, modern servers and even better effects, even more content like for instance a bigger playable space (not that it isnt already large) even MORE indepth gameplay/roleplay. Not sure if it would sky rocket or flop thats why im asking for peoples thoughts and opinions. All responses are welcome Not trying to cause conflict just genuinely curious.
Things EvE 2.0 should have:
- Overpriced Cash shops like Black Desert Online and all the other ****** Korean MMO's.
- Safe Spaces for all the special snowflakes.
- Day one DLC and Season Passes like every EA/Ubishaft game has. Play the new Caldari faction for just 49.99$.
- Solo and Group Play like Elite: Not so dangerous.
- Tired Faces like Mass Effect: Arsedromeda
- Let me take you by the hand and guide you to Point A to kill x amount of mobs, like...yeah...you know.
- 365 different genders, so that no Tumblr freak is gettin' triggered by looking at a male/female.
- A ****** PC port from PS 4 or XBone.
- A Tumblr blog were they can whine about anything and everything.
- Seal of approval by Anita Sarkeesian.
- Instant gratification for the "usual suspects".
- Gold Ammo like in World of Tanks, for those with the aim of a Imperial Stormtrooper. 100 rounds just 5.99$.
- No PvP zones, because PvP would make me suffer "extreme trauma and tears while mining in High Sec".
Did I miss something? /cynism off
People once asked for KotoR 3 and at the end they got SW: TOR. Be cautious what you're asking for.
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Indahmawar Fazmarai
5846
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Posted - 2017.05.10 07:03:42 -
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Scipio Artelius wrote:'Better' is very subjective. What better graphics? What better technologies?
What's lacking specifically in the current graphics and technologies.
What servers are going to be more modern than the current TQ3?
EVE could use multi-threaded code, frankly. Right now TQ is like a Ferrari running on whiskey instead of gas. Yes, probably it will perform better than a VW Golf also running on whiskey, but there's something seriously lacking in the fuel department...
Only problem is that multi-threaded EVE would be effectively EVE 2 since everything should be coded again... |
Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
33314
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Posted - 2017.05.10 07:05:51 -
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Tanuki Kittybeta wrote:eve 2 will finally have cat ears I think we should get that in EVE 1. I have pink/white skin on my ship already, so why not?
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Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
33317
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Posted - 2017.05.10 07:30:35 -
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http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2017-02-23-mine-asteroids-build-space-stations-this-is-the-purpose-of-life
Quote:"EVE 2 confirmed?" I joke, predictably. It raises a smile.
"People always asked us, in, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 'When is Eve 2 coming out?' And then they kind of just stopped asking. I think people now get it. Eve is like Facebook. It doesn't make sense to make Facebook 2. Eve is Eve. And as long as we do a good job of modernising it, as the team has been doing, from business model to graphics to gameplay to economies, then Eve kind of constantly just succeeds itself. So that's definitely the plan.
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Cybertherion
Pneumatic Cabal
83
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Posted - 2017.05.10 07:44:06 -
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EvE is facebook, but a far superior game and with a lot less fake people.
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Tuttomenui II
Aliastra Gallente Federation
591
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Posted - 2017.05.10 08:19:24 -
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We are playing 'EvE 24' or something atm.... |
Do Little
Virgin Plc Evictus.
1159
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Posted - 2017.05.10 08:43:27 -
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Eve is a player driven sandbox. Politics, economics, cooperation and conflict - none of it scripted by the developers. The furniture in the sandbox is a very small part of the game.
Eve is written in stackless python which is fully multi-threaded. The game was originally developed to run on single core Pentium 4 servers and legacy debt remains but it is being paid down. It would be nice if we could get more frequent devblogs discussing work on the core engine that powers the game.
Given that the player created institutions and connections between them are the game it makes a lot more sense to maintain and enhance the existing sandbox. |
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Jenn aSide
Shinigami Miners ChaosTheory.
15815
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Posted - 2017.05.10 13:12:18 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:I don't know about better, but it would sure be interesting to see EVE 2 simply because you wouldn't have an entrenched minority of bitter vets calling the shots. Mr Epeen
This is wrong.
Within 2 weeks of "EVE 2" the same people who are 'ahead' here and 'calling the shoits' would be ahead there, and the same people who are behind here would fall behind in some way there (and run to the forums to blame 'bad people, greedy CCP, game mechanics, the weather, etc etc). As in real life, so it is in game.
Successful people have successful people habits (some of which aren't 'nice'), a new version of EVE doesn't change basic reality.
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Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
47750
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Posted - 2017.05.10 13:34:37 -
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Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:Scipio Artelius wrote:'Better' is very subjective. What better graphics? What better technologies?
What's lacking specifically in the current graphics and technologies.
What servers are going to be more modern than the current TQ3? EVE could use multi-threaded code, frankly. Right now TQ is like a Ferrari running on whiskey instead of gas. Yes, probably it will perform better than a VW Golf also running on whiskey, but there's something seriously lacking in the fuel department... Only problem is that multi-threaded EVE would be effectively EVE 2 since everything should be coded again... The backend code that is still Python uses stackless, so each process runs in its own thread and multiple micro threads can run on the one CPU. It's already multithreaded, but just not system threads. The Python interpreter is running the threads.
That's not necessarily to say that is the best way it could be done, just that it isn't as simple as being multithreaded. It already is. |
Salt Foambreaker
Greedy Pirates
42
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Posted - 2017.05.10 14:53:28 -
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Oh yes, they could do it like TSW did.
Wipe the server, change the game in ways no one ever asked for and re-release the game.
Not just NO, F NO!
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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
10998
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Posted - 2017.05.10 15:11:50 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Mr Epeen wrote:I don't know about better, but it would sure be interesting to see EVE 2 simply because you wouldn't have an entrenched minority of bitter vets calling the shots. Mr Epeen This is wrong. Within 2 weeks of "EVE 2" the same people who are 'ahead' here and 'calling the shoits' would be ahead there, and the same people who are behind here would fall behind in some way there (and run to the forums to blame 'bad people, greedy CCP, game mechanics, the weather, etc etc). As in real life, so it is in game.Successful people have successful people habits (some of which aren't 'nice'), a new version of EVE doesn't change basic reality. Maybe.
But more likely it would be them that are posting tear filled "I'll never play E2" posts. And selecting a random game that they all swear they are moving to and trying to get everyone else to join them.
There's empirical evidence to back this up. Just look back over the years and the bittervet response to changes CCP made that affected their righteous ownership of the game.
And yet, here you all are, still posting.
Mr Epeen
There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass!
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Jenn aSide
Shinigami Miners ChaosTheory.
15819
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Posted - 2017.05.10 15:59:49 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:Maybe. But more likely it would be them that are posting tear filled "I'll never play E2" posts. And selecting a random game that they all swear they are moving to and trying to get everyone else to join them. There's empirical evidence to back this up. Just look back over the years and the bittervet response to changes CCP made that affected their righteous ownership of the game. And yet, here you all are, still posting. Mr Epeen
That's nonsense. The people talking about other games (ie "Star Citizen is goign to kill EVE") aren't the successful people (the so called "bittervets" you claim are "calling the shots"). The people making those claims are the disaffected carebears who rage quit and always slither back after they learn that the totally safe pro-carebear game they jsut knew would kill EVE was, in actual fact, boring as hell.
What you said was I don't know about better, but it would sure be interesting to see EVE 2 simply because you wouldn't have an entrenched minority of bitter vets calling the shots.". We've heard that before every time someone talks about a "server reset". The idea rests upon the fallacy that the 'rich/powerful' players in EVE are only that way because they got a head start, and if people had an 'even playing field' things would be different.
They wouldn't, because the people who blamed the 'entrenched interests' for their problems ignore the fact that they have bad and self defeating personal habits and ways of thinking that would make them stay on the loosing side even in a reset EVE Online (or EVE 2).
What you said reminded me of Dominion Sov. CCP said it would do all this nice stuff for 'small entities' and people believed it, the 'big groups' like Goons tried to tell everyone that was stupid and that Dominion Sov would make big groups stronger. The small group folks replied "you are just scared of change because you know Dominion Sov will make you weaker!!!!".
7 Years of Goon domination of a huge chunk of nullsec thanks to Dominion Sov didn't seem to convince anyone of anything it seems.
Likewise, EVE 2 would mean HIGHER LEVELS of 'bittervet domination of the game' because those bitter vets had 14 years of seeing how people react to things so they know how to manipulate games for their own purposes.
If EVE 2 ever happened, you would NOT like it, Mr Epeen. |
Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
33342
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Posted - 2017.05.10 16:44:56 -
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EVE 2 will never happen.
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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
10998
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Posted - 2017.05.10 16:49:57 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Mr Epeen wrote:Maybe. But more likely it would be them that are posting tear filled "I'll never play E2" posts. And selecting a random game that they all swear they are moving to and trying to get everyone else to join them. There's empirical evidence to back this up. Just look back over the years and the bittervet response to changes CCP made that affected their righteous ownership of the game. And yet, here you all are, still posting. Mr Epeen That's nonsense. The people talking about other games (ie "Star Citizen is goign to kill EVE") aren't the successful people (the so called "bittervets" you claim are "calling the shots"). The people making those claims are the disaffected carebears who rage quit and always slither back after they learn that the totally safe pro-carebear game they jsut knew would kill EVE was, in actual fact, boring as hell. What you said was I don't know about better, but it would sure be interesting to see EVE 2 simply because you wouldn't have an entrenched minority of bitter vets calling the shots.". We've heard that before every time someone talks about a "server reset". The idea rests upon the fallacy that the 'rich/powerful' players in EVE are only that way because they got a head start, and if people had an 'even playing field' things would be different. They wouldn't, because the people who blamed the 'entrenched interests' for their problems ignore the fact that they have bad and self defeating personal habits and ways of thinking that would make them stay on the loosing side even in a reset EVE Online (or EVE 2). What you said reminded me of Dominion Sov. CCP said it would do all this nice stuff for 'small entities' and people believed it, the 'big groups' like Goons tried to tell everyone that was stupid and that Dominion Sov would make big groups stronger. The small group folks replied "you are just scared of change because you know Dominion Sov will make you weaker!!!!". 7 Years of Goon domination of a huge chunk of nullsec thanks to Dominion Sov didn't seem to convince anyone of anything it seems. Likewise, EVE 2 would mean HIGHER LEVELS of 'bittervet domination of the game' because those bitter vets had 14 years of seeing how people react to things so they know how to manipulate games for their own purposes. If EVE 2 ever happened, you would NOT like it, Mr Epeen. World of Tanks can thank its success for the bittervets of EVE.
'nuff said.
Mr Epeen
There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass!
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Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
1210
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Posted - 2017.05.10 22:26:00 -
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With all that's been done to Eve, from adding content that wasn't there before to overhauling and completely redoing, replacing, or removing content that's been around long enough to have been, Eve today is literally well beyond Eve 2: Eve Harder already.
"Tomahawks?"
"----in' A, right?"
"Trouble is, those things cost like a million and a half each."
"----, you pay me half that and I'll hump in some c4 and blow the ---- out of it my own damn self."
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CMDR-HerpyDerpy Hurishima
Debitum Naturae Goonswarm Federation
63
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Posted - 2017.05.10 23:11:27 -
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Woah didnt expect so many comments ._. From what im reading at the moment lots of people don't seem to like the idea, was just a thought throwing it out there |
CMDR-HerpyDerpy Hurishima
Debitum Naturae Goonswarm Federation
63
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Posted - 2017.05.10 23:19:57 -
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Thankyou everyone for your comments! They are very appreciated and i agree that our eve is basically an eve 2, it would split the playerbase. But what if, if this eve's servers got shut down, then would we want an eve 2? not sure really, if eve 1 got shut down because it "Died" then eve 2 probably wouldnt kick off either. Anyway thankyou everyone! sorry if i triggered some people by making a post about if there was an eve 2. |
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Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
2977
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Posted - 2017.05.10 23:29:24 -
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why would they go to eve 2 and not just eve insert new expansion name here?
everything gets upgraded every few years it seems, there have been a bunch of graphics updates in the time I've been playing. Also they just updated the servers a year ago go read about TQ tech 3. And at some point they needed to get a security clearance to take a look at SSDs to use for the database server.
and in game they go through and update the ships every so often, and are working on getting rid of the old POS/outposts and moving over to citadels.
And as said, if they ended Eve I'd probably wouldn't go on with CCP anything. I've been playing over 10 years and haven't hit my goals yet, I'm not even an old entrenched space rich guy.
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CMDR-HerpyDerpy Hurishima
Debitum Naturae Goonswarm Federation
63
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Posted - 2017.05.10 23:32:25 -
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Chainsaw Plankton wrote:why would they go to eve 2 and not just eve insert new expansion name here?
everything gets upgraded every few years it seems, there have been a bunch of graphics updates in the time I've been playing. Also they just updated the servers a year ago go read about TQ tech 3. And at some point they needed to get a security clearance to take a look at SSDs to use for the database server.
and in game they go through and update the ships every so often, and are working on getting rid of the old POS/outposts and moving over to citadels.
And as said, if they ended Eve I'd probably wouldn't go on with CCP anything. I've been playing over 10 years and haven't hit my goals yet, I'm not even an old entrenched space rich guy. Ah okay i didn't know that they updated the servers thanks for the reply |
Vayen Kukkus
10
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Posted - 2017.05.11 01:38:35 -
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Salt Foambreaker wrote:Oh yes, they could do it like TSW did.
Wipe the server, change the game in ways no one ever asked for and re-release the game.
Not just NO, F NO!
What happened to TSW?
DUST 514 FOREVER!!!!
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Mina Sebiestar
Minmatar Inner Space Conglomerate
1190
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Posted - 2017.05.11 03:11:57 -
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Quote:The backend code that is still Python uses stackless, so each process runs in its own thread and multiple micro threads can run on the one CPU. It's already multithreaded, but just not system threads. The Python interpreter is running the threads.
That's not necessarily to say that is the best way it could be done, just that it isn't as simple as being multithreaded. It already is.
The best way would be if you have 16 core cpu that 16 core are used not 1 regardless of how that single core works.
Would like to see tessellation(at least on caps and structures) and multi GPU support and finally dx 12 support.
Not sure that waiting for last living scrub to update his toaster is a way to go tbh but whatever eve 2.0 is unlike to happen.
You choke behind a smile a fake behind the fear
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Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
47750
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Posted - 2017.05.11 04:41:02 -
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Mina Sebiestar wrote:Quote:The backend code that is still Python uses stackless, so each process runs in its own thread and multiple micro threads can run on the one CPU. It's already multithreaded, but just not system threads. The Python interpreter is running the threads.
That's not necessarily to say that is the best way it could be done, just that it isn't as simple as being multithreaded. It already is. The best way would be if you have 16 core cpu that 16 core are used not 1 regardless of how that single core works. Would like to see tessellation(at least on caps and structures) and multi GPU support and finally dx 12 support. Not sure that waiting for last living scrub to update his toaster is a way to go tbh but whatever eve 2.0 is unlike to happen. Multiple cores in a server CPU doesn't restrict stackless to the use of a single core, which isn't something that Python directly manages anyway. The server OS manage the use of the cores. Stackless manages the running of multiple microthreads on each core it is using. |
Captain Campion
Campion Corp.
62
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Posted - 2017.05.11 12:28:19 -
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My main requirement for EVE 2 would be that Battleship would be the largest ship class. (no capitals) |
Kristal Rova
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2017.05.12 14:08:17 -
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Then what next? Server reset every month? |
Scialt
Universal Sanitation Corporation
122
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Posted - 2017.05.12 14:21:44 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Mr Epeen wrote:I don't know about better, but it would sure be interesting to see EVE 2 simply because you wouldn't have an entrenched minority of bitter vets calling the shots. Mr Epeen This is wrong. Within 2 weeks of "EVE 2" the same people who are 'ahead' here and 'calling the shoits' would be ahead there, and the same people who are behind here would fall behind in some way there (and run to the forums to blame 'bad people, greedy CCP, game mechanics, the weather, etc etc). As in real life, so it is in game.Successful people have successful people habits (some of which aren't 'nice'), a new version of EVE doesn't change basic reality.
I think the only thing I'd add is the word "mostly".
The people ahead here would mostly be ahead in an EVE too and the ones falling behind here would "mostly" fall behind there.
One thing that vets of eve often gloss over but is a real thing are the advantages that being here early give you. You do get to take advantage of things that others who arrive later miss out on. This isn't an Eve thing... it's true of any MMO. When I played Ultima Online when it first came out there was a bug in the first month that caused people to immediately jump up to "grand master" level at whatever they were doing at the time. My toon became a grandmaster bowmaker over night. I wasn't particularly GOOD at the game... but I had an advantage that others didn't that I milked for every benefit I could.
Some people in Eve got T2 BPO's before that was shut down. Some got to take advantage of non drone aggro to have multiple accounts AFK anomaly running for years. Some got to use Rorqual mining to acquire gigantic stockpiles of ore before the nerf hit. There's nothing WRONG with that.... but taking advantage of game mechanics that have since changed are things newer players simply can't do.
I'm not complaining about it... but that does create a divide that no amount of skill injectors can make go away. So while most of the successful people would be successful... some might be much LESS successful because some of their success comes from advantages they gained when imbalanced game mechanics were in place. Some might be MORE successful because as latecomers their success has been limited by not having some advantages that earlier players had.
All that being said... I don't advocate an Eve 2. If it came out I'd play it (and dump Eve 1), but I agree it would split the userbase more than adding new players. |
JC Mieyli
Wrath of Angels Solitaire.
14
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Posted - 2017.05.12 14:30:30 -
[39] - Quote
fix hmls and let vets in tengus bully noobs in hi-sec make eve great again |
Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
33441
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Posted - 2017.05.14 07:01:25 -
[40] - Quote
Maybe, when it comes to names, we are not getting EVE 2, but how it would feel like we would play EVE 2?
- I think the daily downtimes would have to go away.
- I play the game for many years and my UI looks far more customized than default one. I want some easy means of saving all settings and share them. One buton "Save UI settings", settings stored server side and exportable for sharing with newbies.
- WiS would have to happen eventually, and doors opened for avatar gameplay.
- More precise server ticks, not 1Hz, one per second is really slow reaction, maybe make it so it would be elastic.
- All old models of spaceships redesigned, and prettier
- CCP releases tech 3 ships for every ship class
- planetary interaction UI gets overhaul, and we can dock on planets, like we dock in stations.
- asteroid belts look like lines made of fragmented asteroid pulled apart by planets gravity, not like fairy rings.
There are my wishes. Get to work now CCP. =ƒôê
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sworphy
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2
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Posted - 2017.05.14 08:17:43 -
[41] - Quote
NO Jump Timers!
These have ruined the game |
Expendable Unit
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
63
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Posted - 2017.05.14 08:49:16 -
[42] - Quote
EVE 2 - Ubisoft.
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ugh zug
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
123
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Posted - 2017.05.14 10:47:47 -
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no jump gates
Want me to shut up?
Remove content from my post,1B.
Remove my content from a thread I have started 2B.
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Draeman Hookah
salty inc. Roadhouse Regulars
26
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Posted - 2017.05.15 16:07:10 -
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CMDR-HerpyDerpy Hurishima wrote:Just a random thought i figured i should post and get opinions on. What would everyone think/say about a relaunched EVE, better graphics, better everything basically, modern day technology, modern servers and even better effects, even more content like for instance a bigger playable space (not that it isnt already large) even MORE indepth gameplay/roleplay. Not sure if it would sky rocket or flop thats why im asking for peoples thoughts and opinions. All responses are welcome Not trying to cause conflict just genuinely curious.
I would honestly say that EVE 2.0 would need to include all of the elements CCP has implemented and tried to implement in the past into one rock solid and stable game. I.e.:
- The EVE: Online game in itself (obviously more ships/modules/activities) - Eve: Valkyrie integration. Gorgeous FPP (first person piloting) should be present and fluid in the manner that EVE: Valkyrie achieves yet a fluid transition back to 3rd person should be an option all the while retaining the core EVE game without loading different events. - Dust 514 Integration. Should be able to approach any planet in the universe and touch shoes down on the ground to either capture and hold strategic checkpoints or maintain resource processing operations. This should be relatively seamless (obviously need to load from space to the ground and vice versa) and orbital strikes should occur real-time along with additional player entry onto the battlefield from space.
I've got a metric @#$%-ton more ideas for something like this but it's likely that the current technology available could not pull something of this scale off. When it can, I expect to see something of this nature. Star Citizen tried something aggressive like this but all CCP would need to do is combine preexisting games they've created, update graphics and textures, add more content, and release with minimal effort for something of this scale. |
Kristal Rova
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2017.05.15 19:26:34 -
[45] - Quote
how can integrate valkyrye with eve?
I think valkyrye pilots are'nt capsuleers. As seen on the video below, capsuleers control the spaceships with their minds.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5AtqXOe3Jw
By other hand, on valkyrye, pilots uses their own hands to control the ships like an aircraft.
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March rabbit
Mosquito Squadron The-Culture
2176
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Posted - 2017.05.15 19:56:55 -
[46] - Quote
Well... I think EvE2 is almost there. Just couple things here and there, more FTP and PTW and such stuff...
The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
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000Hunter000
Missiles 'R' Us
189
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Posted - 2017.05.15 20:37:43 -
[47] - Quote
Mr Epeen wrote:I don't know about better, but it would sure be interesting to see EVE 2 simply because you wouldn't have an entrenched minority of bitter vets calling the shots. Mr Epeen
I'm a vet, dunno about the bitter or calling the shots part though LMFAO
Don't think i would play EVE 2.0... not enough time |
Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
33573
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Posted - 2017.05.17 11:25:38 -
[48] - Quote
GëíGïüGëí + SpatialOS = GëíGïüGëí 2
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Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
33582
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Posted - 2017.05.17 14:53:14 -
[49] - Quote
Actually...
Quote:The first games and studios to be selected for the SpatialOS Games Innovation Program are:
Seed by Klang, a game of planetary settlement set in a shared, persistent world, created by a team including former senior CCP (Eve Online) employees. Its like they already do it.
But it looks nothing like EVE. More like a 3D UI for a Dwarf Fortress.
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Lulu Lunette
Savage Moon Society
1606
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Posted - 2017.05.17 15:14:05 -
[50] - Quote
That planet game has a great concept! I hope they get it out
@lunettelulu7
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Alaric Faelen
Sabotage Incorporated Executive Outcomes
484
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Posted - 2017.05.17 18:45:15 -
[51] - Quote
Eve 2--- the aftermath of the Empyrean Age.
Capsuleers cannot co-exist with regular humans for long. The empires were already supposed to distrust and hate us- but we are too valuable a resource to not utilize. They totally depend on us, but we don't really need them much.
Then the capsuleer broke free of the NPC empire's biddings and created sov empires that absolutely rival the NPC empires. This is a direct and immediate threat that the NPC empires surely would have no choice but to deal with. Their forever wars between each other fade as a new enemy emerges- not Drifters or Sleepers or rabid Fedo herds.... but capsuleers that have forsaken their racial identity for that of their emergent empires. "Goon" or "Horde" is a race as much as Caldari or Amarr- and more capsuleers fly under the banner of those sov empires than fly in FW on behalf of the NPC empires.
Eve 2--- Return to Terra
The coming soon (tm) player-built stargates or on demand wormhole generation leads to the denizens of New Eden finding their way home again. The NPC empires finally come together in an effort to reach home only to find..............
Eve 2---The prequel
The first empires to rise from the ashes of the Eve Gate disaster tame the galaxy (focus on exploration more than combat). Play as the Talocan, Takmahl, Yan Jung, or Jove. Because all these civilizations were supposed to be more advanced than the current state of technology in the game, the devs could go wild with new ideas. |
ToBaD
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2017.05.17 19:20:55 -
[52] - Quote
I don't think you jump gates for a bigger game thinking, its big enough for now. I like the cost kept down these days with the dollar being weaker vs the us dollar for most country's these days. Mod work is what I would like to see done these days, ship fixes , new types of mods. Something like a new armor repair mod working something like the ancillary shield booster dose. armor taking can use some love a bit. |
Gretek Moergyn
Non-Sedentary T U A R E G
9
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Posted - 2017.05.17 22:50:14 -
[53] - Quote
Make PvP combat consensual only. Those who want to fight, let them fight all they want. |
Coralas
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
123
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Posted - 2017.05.17 23:24:09 -
[54] - Quote
Gretek Moergyn wrote:Make PvP combat consensual only. Those who want to fight, let them fight all they want.
Its consensual in the current game, you grant consent when you undock.
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Gretek Moergyn
Non-Sedentary T U A R E G
9
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Posted - 2017.05.18 00:49:51 -
[55] - Quote
Coralas wrote:Gretek Moergyn wrote:Make PvP combat consensual only. Those who want to fight, let them fight all they want. Its consensual in the current game, you grant consent when you undock.
Uh, no, you don't.
The OP asked a question. I answered. If you don't like my opinion I could not possibly care less. If you are so tough, come to hi-sec and attack me and anyone else you want. I dare you. But of course you never will.
Got to stop myself now...must remember to not feed the troll.
No matter. Player numbers are falling. People like me are bored and frustrated by the sociopaths. I'm a returning player with an alpha account. The company needs people like me to subscribe, and people like me who do subscribe to continue to subscribe. If we/they don't, the game will end. |
Coralas
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
126
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Posted - 2017.05.18 02:58:51 -
[56] - Quote
Gretek Moergyn wrote:Coralas wrote:Gretek Moergyn wrote:Make PvP combat consensual only. Those who want to fight, let them fight all they want. Its consensual in the current game, you grant consent when you undock. Uh, no, you don't.
I'm a completely reasonable participant in this thread.
Quote:
The OP asked a question. I answered. If you don't like my opinion I could not possibly care less. If you are so tough, come to hi-sec and attack me and anyone else you want. I dare you. But of course you never will.
Its difficult to learn if you get angry when your misconceptions are revealed.
Quote:
Got to stop myself now...must remember to not feed the troll.
No matter. Player numbers are falling. People like me are bored and frustrated by the sociopaths. I'm a returning player with an alpha account. The company needs people like me to subscribe, and people like me who do subscribe to continue to subscribe. If we/they don't, the game will end.
I am subbed, my views reflect those of the people that will pay for a sub. You are not subbed, your views reflect those of a person with a narrow sub window that CCP will never be able to keep you happy and therefore shouldn't waste their time on.
Player counts are falling because this is an old game that requires ongoing work to keep fresh, because its european summer when online player counts always fall, and because the initial pent up demand for alpha state is now satisfied.
I also do not appreciate the troll accusation.
here is a simple truth, alphas need the fruits of the previous alphas labors destroyed even more quickly than subbed players do, because alphas have less things they can realistically do, and thus deal with smaller pools of objects that will naturally flood their relevant markets more quickly. They also need to be able to press the shooting buttons at other players in the space that they started in. Even if it garners consequences that they have to learn from.
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CMDR-HerpyDerpy Hurishima
Debitum Naturae Goonswarm Federation
69
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Posted - 2017.05.18 04:05:10 -
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No matter. Player numbers are falling. People like me are bored and frustrated by the sociopaths. I'm a returning player with an alpha account. The company needs people like me to subscribe, and people like me who do subscribe to continue to subscribe. If we/they don't, the game will end.[/quote]
I am subbed, my views reflect those of the people that will pay for a sub. You are not subbed, your views reflect those of a person with a narrow sub window that CCP will never be able to keep you happy and therefore shouldn't waste their time on.
Player counts are falling because this is an old game that requires ongoing work to keep fresh, because its european summer when online player counts always fall, and because the initial pent up demand for alpha state is now satisfied.
I also do not appreciate the troll accusation.
here is a simple truth, alphas need the fruits of the previous alphas labors destroyed even more quickly than subbed players do, because alphas have less things they can realistically do, and thus deal with smaller pools of objects that will naturally flood their relevant markets more quickly. They also need to be able to press the shooting buttons at other players in the space that they started in. Even if it garners consequences that they have to learn from.
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Nice, a formal reply. Thanks for your comments, it is true that as an alpha stuff does get boring fast, thats why you sub lul :) Fly Dangerous |
Fek Mercer
Tactically Challenged Tactical Supremacy
71
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Posted - 2017.05.18 04:12:35 -
[58] - Quote
I like what some others have said about having more sandbox elements.
Eve 2's story would be a far future flung one from Eve 1. Eve is grimdark, so we'd take it up a notch. We'd have it so that the capsuleer technology ended up being the demise of the empires, and now the ruins of the old civilization would be the basis on which the new Eve would start all its players on.
The story would be the last capsuleers making a new civilization like a phoenix from the old, and we'd have new and improved empire building mechanics from the old Eve. There could even be a player driven version of hisec, in that there is still a punishment system for murdering people, but it isn't static like the one in the old Eve.
We'd get a bunch of cool new ships and maybe see the return of some old ones, and maybe there'll be room for player designed and tuned ships.
There could be new planet sized resource gathering structures and defensive bastions, either left over from the old civilizations or built by the players.
All in all, there's definitely room to make Eve 2 take the universe and the game to the next octave. |
Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
2792
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Posted - 2017.05.18 05:09:37 -
[59] - Quote
For an EvE 2 to succeed there cannot be CCP involvement.
It needs to be produced on a proper dev cycle, without knee jerk reactions to fotm ideas and without bias to an ideal or ideals that no real world value. Its a triple AAA game not a open source project for a niche market.
You could get away with that back in the day of overclocked CPUs and homemade watercooled heat sinks but with the potential market now being millions of sub's to deliberately hamstring your game like CCP have to the tune of EvE is designed for anti-social chimps and its niche is beyond idiotic.
CCP Fozzie GǣWe can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-tonGǪ in null sec anomalies. Gǣ*
Kaalrus pwned..... :)
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Chopper Rollins
Far Beyond Triggered
1874
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Posted - 2017.05.18 11:06:16 -
[60] - Quote
Mr Epeen wrote:I don't know about better, but it would sure be interesting to see EVE 2 simply because you wouldn't have an entrenched minority of bitter vets calling the shots yet. Mr Epeen
FYP
Goggles. Making me look good. Making you look good.
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Jenn aSide
Shinigami Miners ChaosTheory.
15843
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Posted - 2017.05.18 12:25:06 -
[61] - Quote
Infinity Ziona wrote:For an EvE 2 to succeed there cannot be CCP involvement.
It needs to be produced on a proper dev cycle, without knee jerk reactions to fotm ideas and without bias to an ideal or ideals that no real world value. Its a triple AAA game not a open source project for a niche market.
You could get away with that back in the day of overclocked CPUs and homemade watercooled heat sinks but with the potential market now being millions of sub's to deliberately hamstring your game like CCP have to the tune of EvE is designed for anti-social chimps and its niche is beyond idiotic.
The above was typed by a supposedly adult person who spent YEARS handing money to a company he despises, which is an awfully brilliant just like going to Burger King every day of your life and buying a whopper despite the fact that you are allergic to beef, bread, lettuce tomatoes and mustard.... |
Demica Diaz
SE-1
419
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Posted - 2017.05.18 14:47:36 -
[62] - Quote
Human avatar based gameplay option and more open universe. By more open I mean no sectors anymore. I dont mind NPC empires but allow us to bring a damn titan to Jita and start the chaos. NPC empire ships would engage for misbehave but shouldnt be any different from player ships in power and you can fight back. I dislike High Sec, Low Sec and Null Sec rulesets and specially Concord immortal oneshot fleets.
As for controlling space I would like to see that one controls space just by having built infrastructure in system and can defend it alone or with his friends. No timer humping or other pre set rulesets. You cant guard your stations 24/7, thats too bad, next morning you wake up and see someone took it down. In other words I wish EVE2 be more Mad Max than Star Wars. |
Agondray
Avenger Mercenaries VOID Intergalactic Forces
427
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Posted - 2017.05.18 17:01:49 -
[63] - Quote
Chewytowel Haklar wrote:I genuinely think that Eve doesn't have enough sandbox elements to it. So, if there were ever an Eve 2.0 I would want more sandbox and far less hand holding in the game. There would be no empire space, no already placed stargates, and you would perhaps have even more control over how you want to build your own ship. The only thing that strikes me as a true sandbox in this game are the economies, alliances/coalitions, and their military doctrines.
that's such a bad idea with no empire space, ive played on pvp servers were the only places pvp isn't allowed is a temple or post office. the first people in the server made their groups new players are camped in the temple, more than once has GM have to intervene and summon demons to break up the camps.
I will go with limited gates because you will need to expand, and limited stations because you will need someone to sell and such as you wont have citadels.
"Sarcasm is the Recourse of a weak mind." -Dr. Smith
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Loki Yamaguchi
Level 42 Industries
11
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Posted - 2017.05.18 21:15:58 -
[64] - Quote
No jump gates Almost zero NPC Real wars Real factions Real borders
I'm sure there are more but those are my main gripes... |
DaReaper
Net 7 Cannon.Fodder
2958
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Posted - 2017.05.18 21:41:16 -
[65] - Quote
Ok i did not read this entire thread, but tossing in my .02 isk.
I have thought of this a lot over the years. The issue is, and eve 2 makes zero sense, lore wise. I mean what, the old universe ends and a new one begins? the logic is missing. But lets just say they did decide to make an EVE 2, if i was ccp i'd of been working on that already and had the current eve devlopment gear towards beining eve 2 to life.
Esentually what i would do, is correct a few of eve's pain issues. like pos' pi, and sov. I'm streamline alot of the current features, and i'd write the base code for eve 2 to not use single core, like a lot of eve still uses. But able to scale for many core processors (this would actually help a lot, and tons on improvements are coming to fix this issue.) Keep the game the same and fix issues.
Now then, this is what i think ccp is doing, but not by making a new game. When pos' are fully removed, this will open up new avenues to upgrade, because the demonic speggiti code of pos and everything attachted to it will be gone. And i think how they did thing sin exodus way back in 04 is no longer working
OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!
Eve For life.
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Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
2792
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Posted - 2017.05.19 01:45:25 -
[66] - Quote
Jenn aSide wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:For an EvE 2 to succeed there cannot be CCP involvement.
It needs to be produced on a proper dev cycle, without knee jerk reactions to fotm ideas and without bias to an ideal or ideals that no real world value. Its a triple AAA game not a open source project for a niche market.
You could get away with that back in the day of overclocked CPUs and homemade watercooled heat sinks but with the potential market now being millions of sub's to deliberately hamstring your game like CCP have to the tune of EvE is designed for anti-social chimps and its niche is beyond idiotic.
The above was typed by a supposedly adult person who spent YEARS handing money to a company he despises, which is an awfully brilliant just like going to Burger King every day of your life and buying a whopper despite the fact that you are allergic to beef, bread, lettuce tomatoes and mustard.... I don't despise CCP they're your words. Irrespective of my feelings on their performance I paid my money because I found a hardcore way of playing I enjoyed despite the devs insistence I only play the null sec numbers alpha damage TiDi crap.
I won EvE.
CCP Fozzie GǣWe can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-tonGǪ in null sec anomalies. Gǣ*
Kaalrus pwned..... :)
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HydrogenBond Shaishi
C-H-C
13
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Posted - 2017.05.19 03:13:27 -
[67] - Quote
how about some Jove space to explore? |
Jenn aSide
Shinigami Miners ChaosTheory.
15856
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Posted - 2017.05.19 03:16:33 -
[68] - Quote
Infinity Ziona wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:For an EvE 2 to succeed there cannot be CCP involvement.
It needs to be produced on a proper dev cycle, without knee jerk reactions to fotm ideas and without bias to an ideal or ideals that no real world value. Its a triple AAA game not a open source project for a niche market.
You could get away with that back in the day of overclocked CPUs and homemade watercooled heat sinks but with the potential market now being millions of sub's to deliberately hamstring your game like CCP have to the tune of EvE is designed for anti-social chimps and its niche is beyond idiotic.
The above was typed by a supposedly adult person who spent YEARS handing money to a company he despises, which is an awfully brilliant just like going to Burger King every day of your life and buying a whopper despite the fact that you are allergic to beef, bread, lettuce tomatoes and mustard.... I don't despise CCP they're your words. Irrespective of my feelings on their performance I paid my money because I found a hardcore way of playing I enjoyed despite the devs insistence I only play the null sec numbers alpha damage TiDi crap. I won EvE.
You "won" when you publicly rage quit several times (despite the fact that you didn't keep your promise to trashbin your characters. You lost when you kept coming back after public calling CCP horrible. Would you like to see your own words that prove you hate CCP since you can't seem to remember, I could link them for you, they are immortalized thanks to EVE-search.
You have to be among the 1% unhappiest customers any company on earth has ever had to deal with, you can't pretend like this isn't so, yet here you still are bashing CCP and complaining. |
HydrogenBond Shaishi
C-H-C
13
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Posted - 2017.05.19 03:19:02 -
[69] - Quote
Houw about T3 Battlehsips.
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Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
2793
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Posted - 2017.05.21 03:20:03 -
[70] - Quote
Jenn aSide wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:For an EvE 2 to succeed there cannot be CCP involvement.
It needs to be produced on a proper dev cycle, without knee jerk reactions to fotm ideas and without bias to an ideal or ideals that no real world value. Its a triple AAA game not a open source project for a niche market.
You could get away with that back in the day of overclocked CPUs and homemade watercooled heat sinks but with the potential market now being millions of sub's to deliberately hamstring your game like CCP have to the tune of EvE is designed for anti-social chimps and its niche is beyond idiotic.
The above was typed by a supposedly adult person who spent YEARS handing money to a company he despises, which is an awfully brilliant just like going to Burger King every day of your life and buying a whopper despite the fact that you are allergic to beef, bread, lettuce tomatoes and mustard.... I don't despise CCP they're your words. Irrespective of my feelings on their performance I paid my money because I found a hardcore way of playing I enjoyed despite the devs insistence I only play the null sec numbers alpha damage TiDi crap. I won EvE. You "won" when you publicly rage quit several times (despite the fact that you didn't keep your promise to trashbin your characters. You lost when you kept coming back after publicly calling CCP horrible over and over and over. Would you like to see your own words that prove you hate CCP since you can't seem to remember? I could link them for you, they are immortalized thanks to EVE-search. You have to be among the 1% unhappiest customers any company on earth has ever had to deal with, you can't pretend like this isn't so, yet here you still are bashing CCP and complaining. You're incorrect
CCP Fozzie GǣWe can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-tonGǪ in null sec anomalies. Gǣ*
Kaalrus pwned..... :)
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Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
2795
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Posted - 2017.05.21 08:27:54 -
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HydrogenBond Shaishi wrote:Houw about T3 Battlehsips.
After T3 cruisers and T3 destroyers I imagine T3 battleships would be just as stupidly implemented as the later 2.
CCP just cannot introduce balanced anything .
CCP Fozzie GǣWe can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-tonGǪ in null sec anomalies. Gǣ*
Kaalrus pwned..... :)
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JackknifedII
The Congregation No Handlebars.
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Posted - 2017.05.21 11:24:20 -
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I would play eve 2.0 if we were all moles, burrowing through the ground in groups, upgrading our claws and fighting to the death over worm burrows.
Also it would be worked out entirely through ambient sound, no visuals.
Because we are moles.
And moles are blind.
Minmatar....we are generally unpleasant to be around....
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Keno Skir
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Posted - 2017.05.21 13:51:02 -
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Gretek Moergyn wrote:Make PvP combat consensual only. Those who want to fight, let them fight all they want.
Jog on troll.
It's a PvP game, you consent to PvP when you undock.
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Soleiyu
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2017.05.21 14:07:33 -
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I think in some ways Valkyrie and what it becomes is EvE 2, it's obvious that the current eve will not grow again, and will only shrink.
EvE 2, if it learnt from the mistakes and achievements of EvE-Online, could be amazing, but eve as it is reminds me of a Sega Mega Drive.
With a mega cd, a 32x, a game genie, a sonic and knuckles cartridge, a master system converter and a master system game with 3d glasses plugged into the converter as well, all plugged into each other with baked beans poured over them. |
Soleiyu
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2017.05.21 14:09:25 -
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Agondray wrote:Chewytowel Haklar wrote:I genuinely think that Eve doesn't have enough sandbox elements to it. So, if there were ever an Eve 2.0 I would want more sandbox and far less hand holding in the game. There would be no empire space, no already placed stargates, and you would perhaps have even more control over how you want to build your own ship. The only thing that strikes me as a true sandbox in this game are the economies, alliances/coalitions, and their military doctrines. that's such a bad idea with no empire space, ive played on pvp servers were the only places pvp isn't allowed is a temple or post office. the first people in the server made their groups new players are camped in the temple, more than once has GM have to intervene and summon demons to break up the camps. I will go with limited gates because you will need to expand, and limited stations because you will need someone to sell and such as you wont have citadels.
Yeah, the lesson here is that given the chance many players will always try to destroy the game they are playing. It's ironic really. |
Soleiyu
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2017.05.21 14:13:59 -
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Loki Yamaguchi wrote:No jump gates Almost zero NPC Real wars Real factions Real borders
I'm sure there are more but those are my main gripes...
Absolutely agree no jump gates, perhaps at one point they facilitated player interaction or something, and indeed were gameplay elements of the server structure, but the prevalence of gate camping, which is probably the most-least pvp thing you can do, is just plain irritating.
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Hal Morsh
Minmatar Confederate
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Posted - 2017.05.21 14:16:29 -
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When I joined people were maing jokes on these forums about leaving for world of tanks. I left world of tanks when premium ammo became free without rebalance, because it ****** every tank that wasn't Russian.
People only shoot at me once they figure out I'm where their drones are going.
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