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Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3626
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Posted - 2017.05.16 13:01:18 -
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Samira Kernher wrote:You're really late to this.
And you shoul close your "[". |
Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3626
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Posted - 2017.05.16 13:04:54 -
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Utari Onzo wrote:I'm all for assisting in destroying this one too, or perhaps Goonswarm want another crack and give us a break.
Unfortunately, we're not operating in Caldari high-sec much right now, except for MiniLuv. |
Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3628
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Posted - 2017.05.16 14:46:42 -
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If you think Napkins is 'the real enemy' you are even more of a fool than you have demonstrated yourself to be, recently. Napkins is nothing. He is an attention-hungry child, pulling on the sleeves of everyone around him.
Right now, the Caldari need only to ignore him. He threatens none of their people except the ones foolish enough to listen to him, and he offers them nothing that will help them become influential or spread his lies. The Matari slaves he plans to kill, tragic as their deaths are, would still be trapped, sitting in a cage, and waiting to be plucked from their lives for the whims of those who claim slavery is justifiable and noble.
Napkins wants your attention. And you're giving it to him. What exactly do you think you're going to cost him? All of those slaves are registered as possessions, as assets, right now. Upwell structures' cargo protections ensure that even if the facility is destroyed, he will be able to retrieve his 'assets'.
So what do you cost him? The structure itself, which he erects with the intent of seeing people come and attack it, seeing them come and demonstrate how much he matters, to them, because he cannot bear the thought of his own inconsequentialness? It's a deal he'll make time and again. It's a deal he has made, over and over.
The cost of setting up the Citadel is far less than the payoff of self-esteem and attention he gets from you. Blow it up. He'll build another, and it will cost him nothing.
Which is meet, really, because he is nothing. You call him 'the real enemy'. He's nothing of the sort. He's a symptom, and nothing more. Napkins is a persistent cough that you insist we need to focus on and root out. We must defeat the cough! Nevermind the cancer in the lungs, focus on the cough.
Until the true disease, this insane belief in an all-powerful invisible man who commands the most vile acts in the name of cultural purity, is ripped out by the roots... you will keep coughing. And he will keep building more temples to tug at your sleeve and dance around gleefully at how much you scowl and denounce him, at how much power you give him in your life. When you call him 'the real enemy', all you are doing is making him your god. |
Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3630
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Posted - 2017.05.16 17:12:36 -
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Casserina Leshrac wrote:Says the person that has nothing invested in this.
You have no idea what I have invested where, slaver.
My friends? You mean the kin he's trying once again to sacrifice? You mean people like AriaGÇöwhom I do consider a friend even if we're on the opposite sides of some issuesGÇöand others that he's embroiled in his twisted little games?
You admit you're late to this party. You might want to consider finding out whether or not you're trying to lecture the people who've been at the party for years now. Tell you what, little slaver, when you've brought a couple hundred people across five regions to blow his crap up, maybe you can lecture me about how he'll react.
For now, go ahead: give him exactly what he wants. And tell me, just tell me, how will that dissuade him? How will rewarding him with attention convince him not to do it again? Because he will. Just like he has every other time.
You stupid jackwagon. |
Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3639
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Posted - 2017.05.16 20:07:13 -
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You really are dumber than a 3-week dead fedo, aren't you? |
Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3639
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Posted - 2017.05.16 20:49:21 -
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Casserina Leshrac wrote:Children will stop when you don't give them your attention.
Sociopaths will just find another way.
Children will stop if they haven't been rewarded for their tantrums, again and again. Once they have, once they know that all they have to do is escalate, then they will escalate. Napkins there has been getting his way for years. He knows that all he has to do is threaten to throw more of a tantrum, and you'll come running to show him how special he really is and no, Bubby, you really don't have to hold your breath until you turn blue.
Giving him attention only reinforces the cycle, and makes it harder next time.
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Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3639
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Posted - 2017.05.16 21:31:18 -
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Aria Jenneth wrote: You listen to Miz too much, Arrendis.
Experience, not Mizhara, has informed my opinion, Aria. You and I have both seen this cycle, again and again. He's even personally singled you out to give him attention because he knew you'd give it to him. That's his game. That's his only game.
Quote: Besides, you're trying to herd cats.
Kinda my day job, you know? |
Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3709
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Posted - 2017.05.19 14:22:29 -
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Casserina Leshrac wrote: Only one option left find his source of income and stop the ISK flowing in his direction. We just need to find how he is financing his operations.
He could fund his operations effortlessly by station-trading. Have you ever actually tried to keep a capsuleer from making money? To do it, you need to more or less do what you'd need to do to keep a capsuleer from cloning: put him in a stasis tube, lock him away in a cargo container, and throw away the citadel the container's in, by stuffing it 70+ au away from the nearest celestial, perpendicular to the ecliptic, in a wormhole somewhere.
And then pray there isn't a 'If I'm out of touch for 30 days, soft-clone' provision in his clone contract the way a lot of us have. |
Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3713
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Posted - 2017.05.19 15:02:13 -
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Elsebeth Rhiannon wrote:That plan is terrible.
Astrahus without trimmings is is, what, 1B?
Just under, on the open market. If you're gonna be putting them down again and again like Napkins here, though, it's probably worth buying a BPC and producing them for around 750 or so. Maybe a little less. I'd need to check with GSOL on that.
Point is, it's basically a sneeze, yeah. |
Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3713
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Posted - 2017.05.19 15:05:13 -
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Valerie Valate wrote:To cause a zealot to change their behaviour, when that zealot is demi-immortal, is possible, but difficult.
This really isn't all that complicated. If you want someone to change their behavior, you have to have one of two things:
1)Something they want. 2)Something they want to avoid.
You have to give them motivation to change their behavior. When what you do is already baked into their operating costs, then what you do is effectively nothing.
So figure out what he wants, or what he wants to avoid. Laying out any clearer would be breaking my word to Aria, though, so I'm leaving it there.
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Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3713
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Posted - 2017.05.19 15:10:15 -
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Valerie Valate wrote: One must present to them a vision which irrefutably contradicts their understanding of the universe, showing that everything they thought was flawed, and presenting an alternative.
Also, not for nothing, but you'd have to be able to prove the 'vision' isn't "Teh work of Mole-man the Deceiver" or whatever. IOW: you'd have to prove it's God. Which gets tricky, since you can't demonstrate your version of God is even his version of God or that either one of them is real. Since he's off in his own theological framework now with 'Naupliusism', there is literally nothing short of him changing his own mind that would qualify as persuasive to him.
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Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3769
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Posted - 2017.05.19 19:28:11 -
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Aldrith Shutaq wrote:So, what'd your two blooder sects think of the king of blooder's speech earlier today? I thought it was rather rousing. Will you kiss and make up to defend the sanctity of the shipyard?
I hope so. It'll be hilarious to watch. |
Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3770
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Posted - 2017.05.19 19:54:48 -
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Punishers, yes.
For clarity: we opted for Amarr frigates so that the weapons systems don't need to reload. It makes it easier for our guys to take a nap. |
Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3770
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Posted - 2017.05.19 20:09:34 -
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Check the latest Scope feed. They're not talking about you, I promise. |
Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3772
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Posted - 2017.05.19 21:12:03 -
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Omir Sarikusa wrote:GÇ£Empty is the night for the lost and the weak. How will you see with false faith blinding your eyes? How will you seize your destiny on bended knees? Lift yourselves up and look into your hearts. Is the blood that flows there pure? Or is it thin and corrupted by gold and the prattle of priests? Now is the time to shine in the light of the Red God! Now is the time to forge your destinies with blood and iron. The Covenant of Blood is the truth of the universe. Our Covenant is a beacon, set among the stars. Our foundries will blaze with the red flame of construction, as every new ship of war is baptized in blood and fire! Let our sacred work begin. Let your swords reap the harvest of the Great Truth! Become one with me in power and seize life eternal.GÇ¥
When asked for comment, a member of Goonswarm leadership replied, GÇ£Omir who?GÇ¥ |
Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3775
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Posted - 2017.05.19 23:12:25 -
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Mizhara Del'thul wrote:Arrendis wrote: We're here for the blueprints Yeah, I'm sure you can understand why my stomach hurts from laughing.
Status quo is still better'n letting TEST get away with 'em. |
Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3935
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Posted - 2017.05.25 23:15:39 -
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AEther Galatia wrote:Could someone enlighten me as to why Goonswarm blew up something they apparently hold some allegiance to?
What?
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Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3935
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Posted - 2017.05.26 00:08:24 -
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AEther Galatia wrote:Goons do or do not pledge allegiance to the Blood Raiders? Tipping point. Speak now.
Tipping what?
Y'know, there's a lot of people out there who'd look at a guy in a one-man corp, losing citadels in high-sec, and think 'who the hel is this mouthbreather?' There are. If you stick around, you'll probably even meet some of them. Me, I prefer to think you're a cute newbie who really has no idea what he's suggesting, and really doesn't get just how that kind of phrasing comes across. Your corp info says you're into 'contacts' and 'information' all across New Eden, so lemme put you in contact with some information:
As a member of the alliance directorate, I can categorically state that no, we do not pledge allegiance to the Blood Raiders. If we did, we'd have a really strange way of showing it, what with the roughly 2,000,000 Blood Raider ships we destroy in Delve every month.
Also, not everyone is as nice as I am, and if you take that tone with some of the folks around here, you might take a PIE to the face. Wait, no, lasers. PIE shoots lasers, not exploding pies. Mah bad. Also, deploying an Astrahus after only six months in space... not bad. Did you have help getting the money together, or just hard work? |
Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3935
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Posted - 2017.05.26 00:09:42 -
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AEther Galatia wrote:It's a pretty simple question. Do the Goons work with or against the Blood Raiders. If you can't answer it I'll assume it's a no and I'll let the Blood Raiders know. It is immaterial whether I am important to them, the Goons, or anyone else. All the Blood Raiders need to know is if Goons are friend or foe.
Also, I'm pretty sure they know.
Arrendis wrote:what with the roughly 2,000,000 Blood Raider ships we destroy in Delve every month. |
Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3935
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Posted - 2017.05.26 00:23:50 -
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AEther Galatia wrote: I very much appreciate your quick response as a key representative of the Goonswarm Federation. The Blood Raiders are notified.
Again, they know. They've known for a long time now. I promise you, you don't need to notify any of Omir's little pissants that we've been killing them pretty much nonstop for months. |
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Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3940
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Posted - 2017.05.26 04:22:43 -
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AEther Galatia wrote:Arrendis wrote:AEther Galatia wrote:It's a pretty simple question. Do the Goons work with or against the Blood Raiders. If you can't answer it I'll assume it's a no and I'll let the Blood Raiders know. It is immaterial whether I am important to them, the Goons, or anyone else. All the Blood Raiders need to know is if Goons are friend or foe. Also, I'm pretty sure they know. Arrendis wrote:what with the roughly 2,000,000 Blood Raider ships we destroy in Delve every month. This post is marked as edited. I am relaying that the Goonswarm Federation is an ENEMY of the Blood Raiders.
Yes, that post is marked as edited, because I went back to quote myself. Just like this post is marked as edited because I went back to add this line and a few others which don't alter the meaning of my post at all. I'm also likely to keep editing all my posts now just because you seem to think it matters. :)
Goonswarm is an enemy of the Blood Raider Covenant in the same way that a guy in a bar is an enemy of pub fries, pretzels, and nachos. We think of unexploded Blood Raiders less as 'enemies' and more as 'bounties we haven't collected yet'. You do not need to relay any of that to anyone. They already know it. We've been slaughtering them in droves. If any of them haven't noticed, it's because they warped into a Bosonic Field Generator as it fired off, and died without having the time to notice. |
Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3940
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Posted - 2017.05.26 05:39:05 -
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Davlos wrote:It's always interesting to watch Goonswarm devote their attention here, following the riveting events of YC118. It must be impressive to be talking down to one-person organizations after getting thrown out of the North.
Not as impressive as it is to watch people trying to make hay on events that, as I've stated, were actually pretty beneficial on the whole, in our estimation.
And for the record, Binky, if you think I was talking down to AEther Galatia, you clearly need to take time to educate yourself on just exactly what it looks like when I start talking down to people. I'll give you some time to go looking through the posting history, or you can just stay here and wait for your brain to develop enough to get the difference between explaining a situation to someone who seems to be fairly inexperienced, and being condescending to a mouthbreathing idiot.
(Hint: That was it there. Go ahead. Read it again. Take your time, I know some of the words had more than three letters in them. Sound them out slowly.)
But don't you worry your pretty little head about what's 'impressive', or even about whether or not impressive was the word you wanted to be using there, since on the whole, I think you were more looking for something conveying an impression of the person doing the speaking, not the observer. Then again, apparently unlike yourself, I'm at least capable of recognizing which adjectives should be used where, and which carry connotations of being attached to the subject of a sentence, and which pertain more to the object of the sentence. Maybe you should've tried 'satisfying', or 'gratifying', or 'it must feel really good'.
(Additional Hint: That was more condescension. So is this.)
Nor, it should be noted, is my activity here in any way some new development that only took place after the events of last year.
Shame. I thought MC at least required a working brain. |
Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3946
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Posted - 2017.05.26 12:28:08 -
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Davlos wrote:That was nice and all, but thinking about Saranen ended up making me chuckle a bit. Now, that was gratifying.
See that? You can learn to use language properly. And that's ok, thinking about trading Hurricanes for Apostles makes me chuckle, too. |
Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3946
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Posted - 2017.05.26 13:13:39 -
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AEther Galatia wrote:Well there is a difference between battling and warring. The Goonswarm have been "battling" the Blood Raiders.
No, we've been farming the Blood Raiders. Like threshing grain. You don't 'battle' the grain. You're not 'at war' with the grain. You simply go out and mow it all down with the large industrial reaper-thresher and there is nothing the grain can do to stop it.
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Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3957
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Posted - 2017.05.26 16:21:52 -
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Graelyn wrote:When your enemy falls and screams "Now I'm STRONGER", then you've hit brainstem.
Yup. Totally. Trust the platitudes, not the actual data, your Holiness. |
Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3957
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Posted - 2017.05.26 16:36:22 -
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Mizhara Del'thul wrote:Edit: Gosh, Arrendis. You're on slaver mind control drugs and won't even share!? So mean.
Like you haven't been bogarting the good stuff your corp hooks you up with.
We should get Samira and have a total drugged out hedonism night. It'll be like old times! Only, with drugs. And hedonism. And nobody trying to kill themselves or one another. Or tas-oh, who am I kidding, you'll still get me with the taser. |
Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3957
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Posted - 2017.05.26 16:43:44 -
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AEther Galatia wrote:Wonder who made you write this? (quoted in case you edit it.)
Why would I edit my snark?
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Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3957
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Posted - 2017.05.26 16:50:20 -
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Maybe I'll stop by sometime next month when I get a little time off. |
Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3957
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Posted - 2017.05.26 16:53:31 -
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Ayallah wrote:Let us not go to far, they kill a lot of goons too.
Industrial accidents happen. Can't help it if the idiots fall into the thresher. Compare the numbers, see if the 'a lot' really stacks up.
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Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3957
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Posted - 2017.05.26 16:55:38 -
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Aria Jenneth wrote:Ironic use of a title is still use of a title. But also still ironic.
Especially when it's the wrong title.
(A cardinal is properly addressed as, "your Eminence," I think.)
You know what I love about names? They're unique. They're singular. Oh, I don't mean 'Aria' or 'Arrendis'... I mean a name is the only thing you can take away from someone by not using it. Titles, especially the wrong ones... they're so generic. |
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Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3957
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Posted - 2017.05.26 17:02:24 -
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AEther Galatia wrote: Yup I'm with you. Just remember, even if your *intended* audience is not your spoken to audience, to the layman your spoken to audience is the one getting the praise and not your intended audience.
Do you think I particularly care? |
Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3957
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Posted - 2017.05.26 17:25:34 -
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Mizhara Del'thul wrote:I do agree with you, just sayin' that she's still technically correct and you're not going to get a "Yeah, we got our **** pushed in" from any organization primarily founded on inflated egos, Grae.
Yeah?
Graelyn wrote: "We didn't want Pator anyways."
Try a spin that isn't older than I am.
Hah. You will never hear, and have never heard, me say we didn't want that space. We wanted that space. We also weren't happy about losing that war. So... what? We should be all weepy and wailing and gnashing our teeth forever? We should be unable to coldly and rationally look at what happened and evaluate our current position relative to our previous position?
We're better off now than we were then. That's just the plain and simple truth.
Instead of 30,000 pilots spread across five regions, we've got that many in one. Instead of those pilots being spread through 9 different alliances, with all of the patchwork defensive complications that arise in Entosis work, 27,474 of them are in one alliance, with roughy another 6k in 4 others.
Our industrial output per monthGÇöeven without accurate reporting of excavator-based Rorqual industrial activity, exceeds every other region in New Eden except for some parts of the Caldari State, and outstrips any other two regions in null-sec combined.
Despite losing all of that space, we didn't actually lose our supercapital assets. Typically, this is where the 'oh, didn't want that space anyway' accusations get the loudest. Of course we wanted that space. We wanted our supercapital fleet more. Do you want your ship? Does wanting your ship mean you can't want your head? If you have to pick one to keep, and one to lose forever though, you're going to pick the one that lets you get more of the other, right? I mean, you're not going to decide 'hah! I have my ship, I don't need my head!'
I mean, I don't think you are. You believe in God and other crazy things though, so who knows?
So, yeah, we got our asses kicked. Yeah, it sucked. No, wasn't exactly cause for 40 years of wandering in the Great Wildlands or whatever. If the MBC had charged south after us, things could've been really, really bad for us. But they didn't. They made a lot of noise about destroying us, and grandiose claims about how we'd never be allowed to put more than 200 people in space again, and then they failed to seal the deal.
By not wasting our assets in a war that, when the 'big' war started, we'd already been burning the candle at both ends over for eight months, we retained the ability to get back on our feet pretty quickly, and that's exactly what we did. I can't help it if you don't like it. It's still true. |
Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3962
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Posted - 2017.05.26 17:34:36 -
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Arrendis wrote:Instead of 30,000 pilots spread across five regions, we've got that many in one. Instead of those pilots being spread through 9 different alliances, with all of the patchwork defensive complications that arise in Entosis work, 27,474 of them are in one alliance, with roughy another 6k in 4 others.
P.S. - as a side note, that current total doesn't include Sister Bliss and the murder machine that is The Initiative, who add another 3,000 and have settled into Querious for a while before they go on another 'where do we want to burn people down today?' deployment.
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Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3967
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Posted - 2017.05.26 20:21:43 -
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Mizhara Del'thul wrote:For feck's sake, don't follow up an actual straightforwards post with an "We didn't want that space anyway" on Init's behalf.
I'm not. Init just got pushed out of Syndicate. But they only went into Syndicate to take it away from the former owner, who's now in MC. Init's been semi-nomadic for about three years now, Miz. They go someplace, settle for a while, then get bored and go someplace else. And considering it took you guys, NC, GotG, and Horde all together to push them out of SyndicateGÇöonce again without seriously degrading their combat capabilityGÇöI don't really see them sitting on their butts too long. You should know by now that Bliss is never shy about bringing the fight.
You blew up some cits. Their combat assets are still perfectly safe. So, once again: my ship or my head? |
Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3969
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Posted - 2017.05.26 20:48:35 -
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AEther Galatia wrote:Does anyone actually have any idea what a Blood Raider Sotiyo is actually worth? It's rhetorical. It's ridiculous amounts.
The same as any other Sotiyo. |
Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3970
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Posted - 2017.05.26 21:04:18 -
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Graelyn wrote:We can swap later then, yes? Shouldn't be a problem?
Swap what? Sotiyos? Sure. Next time I have an intact Blood Raider Sotiyo in my cargo bay, I'll bring it to Amarr, ok? Cuz right now, the ones out there aren't mine. They belong to the Blood Raiders.
S'why they're getting blown up. |
Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3970
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Posted - 2017.05.26 21:05:06 -
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Mizhara Del'thul wrote:Think there'd be a bit of contention over the contents of it. That's the valuable bit.
That said, so far the contents managed to move several kilometers before it went poof. I wonder how far the current ones will make it?
Right now I've got '20km, 3 hulls' in the Directorate betting pool, actually. |
Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4101
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Posted - 2017.05.30 13:30:57 -
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Halcyon Ember wrote:Graelyn wrote:I eat steaks bloodier than this war. Exactly how does a Cardinal enjoy his steak?
On fire, with a witch tied to it! |
Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4143
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Posted - 2017.06.01 13:01:10 -
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Davlos wrote: I prefer to hear my steaks moo, though.
A little pre-pyre surgery, and the witch can provide that! |
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