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Casserina Leshrac
Sanguine Illuminations
167
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Posted - 2017.05.16 06:37:31 -
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I stand before you all, a Savant of the Sani Sabik Faith.
The path I walk on is my own with few followers. I am not a Blood Raider, nor will I walk that path.
But I do stand before as a child of the Takmahl who started this journey for all those on the Road of Blood and follow the words in the Apocryphon.
This new Citadel in Caldari space signals the fall of one who claims the mantle of the Sani Sabik Savant.
Apocryphon, Lost Passages wrote:For all life is holy, and if a man revels in his own death he is become the Beast, And that man will come before the Beast after death, and stay at his knees forever.
It is the belief that Nauplius has succumbed to his dementia and now runs rabid across New Eden. Thus like the drooler who has become rabid, he must be put down.
The Loyalist and Faithful of Amarr have refused to stop declaring him "A Matari Problem."
He cares not for the laws of any known nation. He is lost in the delusion of being some sort of prophet justifying actions as the work of the Red God.
For those who study the Scriptures and their meaning. The Red God is one that takes, conquerors and destroys. He gives back nothing in return. And promises of such by him relegate him to his real role. Molok the Deceiver.
Our Caldari Allies face an enemy who seeks out an all-out war around the cluster. Even now the Matari have decided enough is enough.
I call for my brother and sisters among the Sani Sabik. Assist us in getting rid of this creature who now is a agent of the Beast. Letting him continue will bring suffering to the untold innocents.
Stop his self-titled Blood Age, before it's starts
At this point and recognizing the threat that stands before us. We will no longer act in a war against PIE of P-THR unless fired upon first.
We stand at the Abyss, drawing the Patterns of Fate - Casserina Leshrac, Savant, Sani Sabik.
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Samira Kernher
Praetorian Auxiliary Force Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2991
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Posted - 2017.05.16 09:54:30 -
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You're really late to this. |
Mizhara Del'thul
Coreli Corporation Mercenary Coalition
1680
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Posted - 2017.05.16 10:06:43 -
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Well gosh, this changes everything. |
Lunarisse Aspenstar
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
1110
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Posted - 2017.05.16 11:13:05 -
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Samira Kernher wrote:You're really late to this.
Very late. |
Utari Onzo
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
1690
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Posted - 2017.05.16 11:42:10 -
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I haven't kept a running tally but haven't the combined efforts of the Amarr accounted for a large proportion, if not a majority, of all of Nauplius' various temples of filth destroyed? I'm all for assisting in destroying this one too, or perhaps Goonswarm want another crack and give us a break.
Either way Nauplius has certainly not been treated as strictly a "Matar" problem for years, but I wouldn't be upset if they wanted to claim this one either.
"Face the enemy as a solid wall
For faith is your armor
And through it, the enemy will find no breach
Wrap your arms around the enemy
For faith is your fire
And with it, burn away his evil"
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Halcyon Ember
Repracor Industries
279
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Posted - 2017.05.16 11:55:46 -
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I'm reminded of a fairground game I saw as a child. A rendition of a furry rodent would appear from a hole. The objective was to hit it with a mallet, whereupon it disappeared, before a rendition of a furry rodent emerged from another hole. This rodent too was struck with a mallet... |
Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3626
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Posted - 2017.05.16 13:01:18 -
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Samira Kernher wrote:You're really late to this.
And you shoul close your "[". |
Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3626
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Posted - 2017.05.16 13:04:54 -
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Utari Onzo wrote:I'm all for assisting in destroying this one too, or perhaps Goonswarm want another crack and give us a break.
Unfortunately, we're not operating in Caldari high-sec much right now, except for MiniLuv. |
Ayallah
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
930
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Posted - 2017.05.16 13:41:49 -
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I hope you realize that you buy yourself no favor pointing at Nauplius and declaring him the real threat.
You are going to die too heretic.
As strength goes.
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Casserina Leshrac
Sanguine Illuminations
167
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Posted - 2017.05.16 13:49:36 -
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Eventually...
But not by his hand.
And I may be late to this party. It isn't the first time.
But I have seen what he does to people that I know and care about.
So if my sacrifice is to pilot my ship with my opponents to take care of the real enemy. So be it.
And if my opponents kill me while I am trying to kill me. So be it.
Are you going to waggle your tongues and lampoon me all day are you willing to assist the Matari and Caldari?
We stand at the Abyss, drawing the Patterns of Fate - Casserina Leshrac, Savant, Sani Sabik.
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Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3628
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Posted - 2017.05.16 14:46:42 -
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If you think Napkins is 'the real enemy' you are even more of a fool than you have demonstrated yourself to be, recently. Napkins is nothing. He is an attention-hungry child, pulling on the sleeves of everyone around him.
Right now, the Caldari need only to ignore him. He threatens none of their people except the ones foolish enough to listen to him, and he offers them nothing that will help them become influential or spread his lies. The Matari slaves he plans to kill, tragic as their deaths are, would still be trapped, sitting in a cage, and waiting to be plucked from their lives for the whims of those who claim slavery is justifiable and noble.
Napkins wants your attention. And you're giving it to him. What exactly do you think you're going to cost him? All of those slaves are registered as possessions, as assets, right now. Upwell structures' cargo protections ensure that even if the facility is destroyed, he will be able to retrieve his 'assets'.
So what do you cost him? The structure itself, which he erects with the intent of seeing people come and attack it, seeing them come and demonstrate how much he matters, to them, because he cannot bear the thought of his own inconsequentialness? It's a deal he'll make time and again. It's a deal he has made, over and over.
The cost of setting up the Citadel is far less than the payoff of self-esteem and attention he gets from you. Blow it up. He'll build another, and it will cost him nothing.
Which is meet, really, because he is nothing. You call him 'the real enemy'. He's nothing of the sort. He's a symptom, and nothing more. Napkins is a persistent cough that you insist we need to focus on and root out. We must defeat the cough! Nevermind the cancer in the lungs, focus on the cough.
Until the true disease, this insane belief in an all-powerful invisible man who commands the most vile acts in the name of cultural purity, is ripped out by the roots... you will keep coughing. And he will keep building more temples to tug at your sleeve and dance around gleefully at how much you scowl and denounce him, at how much power you give him in your life. When you call him 'the real enemy', all you are doing is making him your god. |
Casserina Leshrac
Sanguine Illuminations
172
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Posted - 2017.05.16 16:16:12 -
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Says the person that has nothing invested in this.
Arrendis when you watch your friends get twisted up by his manipulations and you do everything you can.
There are people who listen to him. Try to change him into something better. I stayed my hand because I thought he had turned the course.
You are delusional that to think absolute pacifism will pacify him.
It will enrage him.
He will act out more, committing more vile acts. And you want us to ignore it.
Time for you to take of rose tinted glasses.
You want to silence him... gag him.
You want to stop him... nail him to a cross
You never want to kill him, because then he escapes to do it all over again.
Now if you really believe that your method really will work. Please I encourage it. Sitting on one's hands is good way of doing.
We stand at the Abyss, drawing the Patterns of Fate - Casserina Leshrac, Savant, Sani Sabik.
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Valerie Valate
Church of The Crimson Saviour Sani-Sabik
2183
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Posted - 2017.05.16 16:44:24 -
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Ah yes, of course. The Bloody Dawn of the Blood Age of Blood.
You know, I had forecast the arrival of the Bloody Dawn of the Blood Age of Blood some time ago.
And indeed, some other people at the time, mentioned the Kyonoke agent.
Funny how things can turn out, isn't it ?
Furthermore:
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Doctor V. Valate, Professor of Archaeology at Kaztropolis Imperial University.
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Casserina Leshrac
Sanguine Illuminations
173
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Posted - 2017.05.16 17:02:14 -
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I rather not think it was the end times.
Worse yet I rather not think Nauplius thinks its the end time.
I really just found the right guy and it's kind of it would be nice if I could make to own wedding on time.
We stand at the Abyss, drawing the Patterns of Fate - Casserina Leshrac, Savant, Sani Sabik.
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Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3630
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Posted - 2017.05.16 17:12:36 -
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Casserina Leshrac wrote:Says the person that has nothing invested in this.
You have no idea what I have invested where, slaver.
My friends? You mean the kin he's trying once again to sacrifice? You mean people like AriaGÇöwhom I do consider a friend even if we're on the opposite sides of some issuesGÇöand others that he's embroiled in his twisted little games?
You admit you're late to this party. You might want to consider finding out whether or not you're trying to lecture the people who've been at the party for years now. Tell you what, little slaver, when you've brought a couple hundred people across five regions to blow his crap up, maybe you can lecture me about how he'll react.
For now, go ahead: give him exactly what he wants. And tell me, just tell me, how will that dissuade him? How will rewarding him with attention convince him not to do it again? Because he will. Just like he has every other time.
You stupid jackwagon. |
Casserina Leshrac
Sanguine Illuminations
176
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Posted - 2017.05.16 19:43:23 -
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Arrendis wrote:Casserina Leshrac wrote:Says the person that has nothing invested in this. You have no idea what I have invested where, slaver. My friends? You mean the kin he's trying once again to sacrifice? You mean people like AriaGÇöwhom I do consider a friend even if we're on the opposite sides of some issuesGÇöand others that he's embroiled in his twisted little games? You admit you're late to this party. You might want to consider finding out whether or not you're trying to lecture the people who've been at the party for years now. Tell you what, little slaver, when you've brought a couple hundred people across five regions to blow his crap up, maybe you can lecture me about how he'll react. For now, go ahead: give him exactly what he wants. And tell me, just tell me, how will that dissuade him? How will rewarding him with attention convince him not to do it again? Because he will. Just like he has every other time. You stupid jackwagon.
So we'll see you there too.
Excellent.
We stand at the Abyss, drawing the Patterns of Fate - Casserina Leshrac, Savant, Sani Sabik.
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Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3639
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Posted - 2017.05.16 20:07:13 -
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You really are dumber than a 3-week dead fedo, aren't you? |
Rossanjiin Eskeitan
Guri Raiders
53
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Posted - 2017.05.16 20:16:19 -
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Arrendis wrote:You really are dumber than a 3-week dead fedo, aren't you?
Come on, give her some credit.
I'd say at least 4. |
Casserina Leshrac
Sanguine Illuminations
178
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Posted - 2017.05.16 20:24:47 -
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Arrendis wrote:You really are dumber than a 3-week dead fedo, aren't you?
Nope. Just like watching how your mind work.
What is the word you use... trolling
Back on topic
If you don't want to help, then don't.
Just don't clutter the feeds with your angst ridden emotionalism.
I know this man has done more far more horrific acts prior to my return.
I know that he has found ways to escape and to repeat the process.
To point is many of us across all walks of life, across the spectrum of Faith and Geography are united again to deal with.
It is you that play's fool's game. You want him to do more with less outrage. This is not a spoiled child we are dealing with. This is sociopath with delusions of godhood. Children will stop when you don't give them your attention.
Sociopaths will just find another way.
If you have a better way than twiddling thumbs and letting him get away with more, then I am all ears.
We stand at the Abyss, drawing the Patterns of Fate - Casserina Leshrac, Savant, Sani Sabik.
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Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3639
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Posted - 2017.05.16 20:49:21 -
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Casserina Leshrac wrote:Children will stop when you don't give them your attention.
Sociopaths will just find another way.
Children will stop if they haven't been rewarded for their tantrums, again and again. Once they have, once they know that all they have to do is escalate, then they will escalate. Napkins there has been getting his way for years. He knows that all he has to do is threaten to throw more of a tantrum, and you'll come running to show him how special he really is and no, Bubby, you really don't have to hold your breath until you turn blue.
Giving him attention only reinforces the cycle, and makes it harder next time.
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Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
3848
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Posted - 2017.05.16 21:12:29 -
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Arrendis wrote:Children will stop if they haven't been rewarded for their tantrums, again and again. Once they have, once they know that all they have to do is escalate, then they will escalate. Napkins there has been getting his way for years. He knows that all he has to do is threaten to throw more of a tantrum, and you'll come running to show him how special he really is and no, Bubby, you really don't have to hold your breath until you turn blue.
Giving him attention only reinforces the cycle, and makes it harder next time.
You listen to Miz too much, Arrendis.
Besides, you're trying to herd cats. If there's a thing that's pointless unless everyone does it, and you're asking it of all capsuleers? It's probably pointless. People have been trying to get other people to ignore Ms. Kim for ... uh. Easily as long as I've been around. It hasn't happened.
This won't, either.
Might as well figure out something that'll actually work. |
Tyrukko Sakala
Guri Raiders
14
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Posted - 2017.05.16 21:22:30 -
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Why try to work with those who persecute you?
Guri Raiders Pirate // Don't want to get your hands dirty? Drop a line.
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Mizhara Del'thul
Coreli Corporation Mercenary Coalition
1747
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Posted - 2017.05.16 21:22:47 -
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Yup. Should instead just repeat the same thing over and over and expect some different result this time. |
Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3639
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Posted - 2017.05.16 21:31:18 -
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Aria Jenneth wrote: You listen to Miz too much, Arrendis.
Experience, not Mizhara, has informed my opinion, Aria. You and I have both seen this cycle, again and again. He's even personally singled you out to give him attention because he knew you'd give it to him. That's his game. That's his only game.
Quote: Besides, you're trying to herd cats.
Kinda my day job, you know? |
Casserina Leshrac
Sanguine Illuminations
179
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Posted - 2017.05.16 22:14:33 -
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Aria Jenneth wrote:Arrendis wrote:Children will stop if they haven't been rewarded for their tantrums, again and again. Once they have, once they know that all they have to do is escalate, then they will escalate. Napkins there has been getting his way for years. He knows that all he has to do is threaten to throw more of a tantrum, and you'll come running to show him how special he really is and no, Bubby, you really don't have to hold your breath until you turn blue.
Giving him attention only reinforces the cycle, and makes it harder next time. You listen to Miz too much, Arrendis. Besides, you're trying to herd cats. If there's a thing that's pointless unless everyone does it, and you're asking it of all capsuleers? It's probably pointless. People have been trying to get other people to ignore Ms. Kim for ... uh. Easily as long as I've been around. It hasn't happened. This won't, either. Might as well figure out something that'll actually work.
I am forced to agree with Ms. Jenneth on this.
We stand at the Abyss, drawing the Patterns of Fate - Casserina Leshrac, Savant, Sani Sabik.
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Mebrithiel Ju'wien
Anshar Incorporated Monyusaiya Industry Trade Group
133
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Posted - 2017.05.19 06:13:00 -
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I...
...I really do wonder what in all the Throne Worlds is going on here.
Nauplius is openly antagonising enough people to even get other Sani Sabik to rail on him.
Cassy has turned from potential blooder to bleeding-heart.
And among it all, Arendis rails on and on about the wrongness of EVERYTHING!
Seriously?
I thought I was the child here...
...hah... hah...
...I'm clearly not...
But here is the blood still and all the perfumes of Aridia will not sweeten this little rose GÖÑ
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Elsebeth Rhiannon
SoE Roughriders Electus Matari
925
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Posted - 2017.05.19 07:58:22 -
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Casserina Leshrac wrote:Thus like the drooler who has become rabid, he must be put down. That sounds good.
Now let's hear your plan. |
Casserina Leshrac
Sanguine Illuminations
196
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Posted - 2017.05.19 13:17:49 -
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Mebrithiel Ju'wien wrote:I...
...I really do wonder what in all the Throne Worlds is going on here.
Nauplius is openly antagonising enough people to even get other Sani Sabik to rail on him.
Cassy has turned from potential blooder to bleeding-heart.
And among it all, Arendis rails on and on about the wrongness of EVERYTHING!
Seriously?
I thought I was the child here...
...hah... hah...
...I'm clearly not...
Now Meb... I am not one to make a spectacle of our rites.
However... if you want look in next time I am very happy to have you over.
We stand at the Abyss, drawing the Patterns of Fate - Casserina Leshrac, Savant, Sani Sabik.
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Casserina Leshrac
Sanguine Illuminations
196
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Posted - 2017.05.19 13:28:36 -
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Elsebeth Rhiannon wrote:Casserina Leshrac wrote:Thus like the drooler who has become rabid, he must be put down. That sounds good. Now let's hear your plan.
We cannot kill him because he resurrects to do it again.
We can't give in to his agenda in any fashion because we learn nothing from him.
We can't just destroy is assets as he can rebuild again.
Only one option left find his source of income and stop the ISK flowing in his direction. We just need to find how he is financing his operations.
We stand at the Abyss, drawing the Patterns of Fate - Casserina Leshrac, Savant, Sani Sabik.
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Mizhara Del'thul
Coreli Corporation Mercenary Coalition
1818
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Posted - 2017.05.19 13:49:46 -
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His "operations" are cheap as hell Astras. You can finance them in perfect safety with even the most casual of station trading, which is pretty much impossible to disrupt. If he wasn't toying with you, performing only to the minimum of effort required to keep you all frothing and paying him all the attention he desires, he could plonk down Astras - all of which take a minimum of a week to take down, up to almost three weeks with clever deployment schedules - at a rate far exceeding your ability to take them down.
This is something you people don't seem to understand, for some unfathomable reason: You. Can't. Stop. A. Capsuleer. It would require an expenditure of effort several orders of magnitude above and beyond any harm they could possibly do. Spirits below, outside of nullsec you can't even keep them stuck in a station, and even there they can just jumpclone elsewhere.
All this effort, froth, clutching of pearls, wailing and gnashing of teeth over what is on a capsuleer scale barely the idle drumming of fingers, when that effort could have gone to something that would actually have a measurable impact. Feh.
I wonder how the response would be if he ever bothered getting off his arse and put some real effort into this stuff. If the reactions scaled to his current efforts, heads would start exploding from sheer outrage. |
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