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Tora Bushido
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
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Posted - 2017.05.18 13:04:16 -
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Griever Takkow wrote:Are you not the one that did the lowest of all lows by kicking the Co Alliance leader of Marmite because he disagreed with you and your direction! loyalty starts at home, if you cant be loyal there well! ..... nuff said. Yeh, but the difference between me and VMG, is that I am man enough to see my error and apologized to Kypp for what I did (and explained him what real life issues were the cause of it. And no, thats none of your business). Me and Kypp are ok now. He is one of the guys in VMG and PE we set personal standings too. You might not realise it, but we still have many loyal fun friends in VMG/PE, we speak too on a daily base.
So in short, it's ok if you want to suck up to your grand Pooba, but at least do it with decent arguments.
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Yaosus
Reliables Inc Vendetta Mercenary Group
80
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Posted - 2017.05.18 13:06:40 -
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Tora Bushido wrote:Yaosus wrote:I must object to that miss Tora. You thought the finns would make you strong and give you the upper hand in the upcoming conflict. You disregarded Khrom's warning. VMG did not wardec you, Khrom gave you a choice, and a simple one too. Don't take the finns or else you're going to have to fight us. Gave me a choice? Lolz. Maybe you listen to your grand Poobah, but in marmites, his opinion had as much meaning, as mine when VMG started their coalition with PIRAT. Yaosus wrote:... you've got what I call "killboard fever", meaning you are living in the past, aside from this you simply suck at organizing anything. I admit, I love killboard stats, but I try not too. Still funny how such a bad alliance is still ranked 20 higher the last 7 days then VMG. Care to explain this ? And how long was it VMG exists?
You shoot meaningless stuff.
VMG Most Valuable Kills - Last 7 Days - Approx. Total 61.5 b
Marmites Most Valuable Kills - Last 7 Days - Approx. Total 4.1 b
Same with all your kills, that is why you are all mouth no muscles. You are what we used to call back in my day a shuttle popper. Irrelevant to the bigger picture, big mouth on the forums afk in game.
You shoot pods, shuttles, frigates because you cannot undock something bigger. Something bigger will automatically trigger a VMG hunter party to pimpslap you. Your members must understand that staying with you will be bad for them, the more time they spend with you the worse it is going to be for them and for their wallets.
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rex largo
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
11
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Posted - 2017.05.18 13:18:32 -
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tainted demon wrote:Valkin Mordirc wrote:
His point is very clearly stated, and in comparison to what Devils situation is, very similar.
VMG decced Marmite. A blue, when they let some red into their corp, because Marmite was trying to disband PIRAT another blue to VMG. Per quoted by VMG.
"2. Trying to focus on disbanding a blue the same."
But when the act of PIRAT attacking a citadel was brought to VMG, they solidly remained neutral. A very clear and hypocritical action. Because it was blue on blue situation and VMG refused to take a stance in it.
You can't claim one thing and turn around and refused to walk your talk. EVE especially you will get called out for it. .
I honestly don't see the comparison here, Marmite bringing in finns was a small factor to us sure (as suddenly being blue to the guys giving you ****, leaves a bad taste in your mouth) but Tora's comments about it were the deciding nail in the coffin for us, his own words were about disbanding P I R A T and said being blue to us(marmite) is a good idea for you, now that we are strong again, how else do you take that? With P I R A T and Marmite we could sit back and watch or get involved, by Toras own doing we got involved. he can spin it however he likes. Where as Most agreements we have with others is to stay out of each others way and help out when and where we can. I'm not leadership in VMG so don't know if any talks were had between khrom and Raz during the RF timers, But if Devils felt like they were on the brink of disbanding I'm sure i would have heard about it from khrom, I don't think its going to happen over their fort being hit, VMG have killed some citadels in the past and the owning corps/alliances are still intact, and have new structures now. Your space structures are not really our problem, don't get me wrong. We were more than happy to show up and help out if you asked for assistance, but you said it yourself it's "a Massive punching bag in space" someone was going to punch it at some point, leave it to the russian's to be crazy enough to go for it... but are you saying if it was ever hit by anyone blue to us, we need to remove their blue status over it? If marmite (or one of your blues) hit a VMG structure would you drop blues with them over it? or remain neutral? VMG's stance as far as i have always known it for blue vs blue situations is to remain neutral, attempt diplo if one side asked, and not get involved in the drama... unless one side starts **** with us for related or unrelated reasons and forces our hand.
[20:26:54] Khromius > o/ [20:26:59] Lord Razpataz > hey [20:27:11] Khromius > pirat say they want your fort gone [20:27:21] Khromius > i can't control them mate i'm sory [20:27:27] Lord Razpataz > any particular reason for it? [20:27:32] Khromius > didn't ask [20:27:44] Khromius > something about them being tired of devils [20:28:55] Lord Razpataz > so they want to disband us? cant be more inactive :P [20:34:02] Khromius > honestly mate i don't know [20:34:46] Lord Razpataz > kk, I'm guessing you guys will stay out of this? [20:36:15] Khromius > of course [20:36:21] Khromius > pirat doesn't need us [20:39:05] Lord Razpataz > was thinking more the other way, we need you [20:49:41] Lord Razpataz > but yeah, I understand. [20:49:50] Lord Razpataz > I need to go, RL is calling [20:49:59] Khromius > we're deep blue with PIRAT [20:50:14] Khromius > we won't be sticking our nose in one way or another [20:50:32] Lord Razpataz > rgr [20:50:47] Lord Razpataz > cya around o/
Apparently you are not as well informed as you think you are...
And to answer your question... Yes if one of our blues (if we had any other than your alliance untill yesterday) attacked another of our blues we would have no choice but to reset the attacker and defend the attacked. Honor would leave us no other option.... if you had honor you would understand this.
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Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
21167
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Posted - 2017.05.18 13:20:03 -
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Yaosus wrote: You shoot meaningless stuff.
Has integrity dumpstered , Posts about numbers killboard stats. (@_a¦á)
being relevant to the bigger picture isnt desirable if that picture happens to be of dorian grey.
But by all means , continue chest beating, the lack of self awareness is hilarious.
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Tora Bushido
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
3760
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Posted - 2017.05.18 13:22:23 -
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Yaosus wrote: VMG Most Valuable Kills - Last 7 Days - Approx. Total 61.5 b
Marmites Most Valuable Kills - Last 7 Days - Approx. Total 4.1 b
Same with all your kills, that is why you are all mouth no muscles. You are what we used to call back in my day a shuttle popper. Irrelevant to the bigger picture, big mouth on the forums afk in game.
You shoot pods, shuttles, frigates because you cannot undock something bigger. Something bigger will automatically trigger a VMG hunter party to pimpslap you. Your members must understand that staying with you will be bad for them, the more time they spend with you the worse it is going to be for them and for their wallets.
ok, so you're saying because you can jump a (jump) freighter with T3's and the same amount of logi, that makes you some kind of pvp guru? You contradict yourself old man....in my days ... lolz. Come back in 5 years, if you still exist as an alliance. Then you can show off useless stats. In case you didnt know, it's all about happy clients, not about how big your ego is.
Ps. Did you have a statistics class with Julius?
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Yaosus
Reliables Inc Vendetta Mercenary Group
80
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Posted - 2017.05.18 13:27:40 -
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It is funny how you are all honorable when you get your asses handed to you and how fast you forget about honor when you're on top of the situation.
Due to the fact that he had nothing else to say, he brought the killboard argument into discussion and well it did not turn out too good for him. Like the other moves that he tried lately and backfired on him.
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gnshadowninja
Back Passage Explorer's Vendetta Mercenary Group
330
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Posted - 2017.05.18 13:29:55 -
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Lew Dicrous wrote:Friendship is the best ship in the game!
also: 8/10 - would dunk again.
I found your conversation with Khromius interesting, probaby best not to threaten people over something they wern't even interested in because it suddenly makes it interesting |
Sthenelos Tau
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
28
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Posted - 2017.05.18 13:30:31 -
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Yasus, you give me now your eye implantat!
The Beachboys.. worster than miners....
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Yaosus
Reliables Inc Vendetta Mercenary Group
80
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Posted - 2017.05.18 13:34:34 -
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Tora Bushido wrote:Yaosus wrote: VMG Most Valuable Kills - Last 7 Days - Approx. Total 61.5 b
Marmites Most Valuable Kills - Last 7 Days - Approx. Total 4.1 b
Same with all your kills, that is why you are all mouth no muscles. You are what we used to call back in my day a shuttle popper. Irrelevant to the bigger picture, big mouth on the forums afk in game.
You shoot pods, shuttles, frigates because you cannot undock something bigger. Something bigger will automatically trigger a VMG hunter party to pimpslap you. Your members must understand that staying with you will be bad for them, the more time they spend with you the worse it is going to be for them and for their wallets.
ok, so you're saying because you can jump a (jump) freighter with T3's and the same amount of logi, that makes you some kind of pvp guru? You contradict yourself old man....in my days ... lolz. Come back in 5 years, if you still exist as an alliance. Then you can show off useless stats. In case you didnt know, it's all about happy clients, not about how big your ego is. Ps. Did you have a statistics class with Julius?
I am saying this because in VMG we make good amounts of isk, the members are all decent and we get along very well, the leadership is strong and the decisions are based on real facts not old killboard stats. By the way your entire marmite career is filled with meaningless kills.
Oh I know happy clients. You have to actually have clients or better honor the deals, show up on the field and complete the task at hand.
I'd like to know how your members are feeling when they'll find out how much isk you are pocketing from your clients at their expense. :)
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Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
21168
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Posted - 2017.05.18 13:34:49 -
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Yaosus wrote:It is funny how you are all honorable when you get your asses handed to you and how fast you forget about honor when you're on top of the situation.
You didnt look at the battlereport did you.
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Tora Bushido
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
3762
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Posted - 2017.05.18 13:36:21 -
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Yaosus wrote:It is funny how you are all honorable when you get your asses handed to you and how fast you forget about honor when you're on top of the situation. It's funny how quick you change the subject, when you're overwhelmed with facts.
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Yaosus wrote:It is funny how you are all honorable when you get your asses handed to you and how fast you forget about honor when you're on top of the situation.
You didnt look at the battlereport did you. Ohhhhh, burned !
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tainted demon
Danger Gnomes Vendetta Mercenary Group
67
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Posted - 2017.05.18 13:37:26 -
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Tora Bushido wrote:tainted demon wrote:... said being blue to us(marmite) is a good idea for you, now that we are strong again, how else do you take that? So you're saying having a stronger blue is a bad thing? You confuse me sir. I think both situations are simply defined : VMG leadership has no idea what loyalty means and is mainly driven by greed. Tainted can spin it all he wants, but the fact is VMG backstabbed 2 of their oldest blues. Who will be next?
We took bets on how long this stronger marmite feat Finns would last and we all lost isk, as it was over before it started. You wanting to repeal and replace PIRAT with marmite suggests you think us having a weak blue is better than a strong one?
I think both situations are simply different : Marmite blue was forged out of pity where as Devil's and P I R A T were made out of respect.
If you want to replay your glory days you could bring holey back into marmite, he seems in need of a friend and from his mails desperate for attention as usual
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Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
21171
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Posted - 2017.05.18 13:38:17 -
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Tora Bushido wrote:Yaosus wrote:It is funny how you are all honorable when you get your asses handed to you and how fast you forget about honor when you're on top of the situation. It's funny how quick you change the subject, when you're overwhelmed with facts. Funnier that he's ignoring the op.
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Tora Bushido
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
3762
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Posted - 2017.05.18 13:40:54 -
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This is awesome. The good old C&P cat fights !
No YOU .....
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Omar Alharazaad
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
3297
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Posted - 2017.05.18 13:41:25 -
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Interesting can be good. Ralph hit on a solid point though. Deep blue sat back and watched because of politics when the time of need was at hand. Friendlies who had no horse in the race came to help when it was asked for. Both of these things wont be forgotten any time soon, Devils have long memories after all. Hats off to Wingspan, Ancient Rhythm and The Culture for coming in and helping to make a pile of dead russians. Now new things happen. Also there may be a spike in demand for proteus, guardians and slave implants in Amarr... cash in on it while you can! Should be fun.
Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.
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Yaosus
Reliables Inc Vendetta Mercenary Group
80
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Posted - 2017.05.18 13:41:58 -
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Tora Bushido wrote:Yaosus wrote:It is funny how you are all honorable when you get your asses handed to you and how fast you forget about honor when you're on top of the situation. It's funny how quick you change the subject, when you're overwhelmed with facts. Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Yaosus wrote:It is funny how you are all honorable when you get your asses handed to you and how fast you forget about honor when you're on top of the situation.
You didnt look at the battlereport did you. Ohhhhh, burned !
Try reading the forums properly.
@op
You are not on top of the situation and you know it. That's the first fight you won out of many that are to come :) and you know this too that is why you came crying on the forums.
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Tora Bushido
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
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Posted - 2017.05.18 13:44:11 -
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Yaosus wrote:You are not on top of the situation and you know it. That's the first fight you won out of many that are to come :) and you know this too that is why you came crying on the forums. Want to bet some isks on it?
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Yaosus
Reliables Inc Vendetta Mercenary Group
80
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Posted - 2017.05.18 13:48:22 -
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Tora Bushido wrote:Yaosus wrote:You are not on top of the situation and you know it. That's the first fight you won out of many that are to come :) and you know this too that is why you came crying on the forums. Want to bet some isks on it?
I would love to make a bet..but you just lost your bet against VMG, I'd hate to take the isk your members worked so hard to fill your pockets with. Afterall its their work, you were docked in station each and everytime.
Hold on let me think... you hopped into the devil's train and now you feel powerful again :) Until you get dunked and convo khrom once more asking him WHY U NO CARE ABOUT THE MOARMITES?
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Tora Bushido
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
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Posted - 2017.05.18 13:50:55 -
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Yaosus wrote:Afterall its their work, you were docked in station each and everytime. And you're wrong again. My alts were in the top10 killers during these wars.
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gnshadowninja
Back Passage Explorer's Vendetta Mercenary Group
330
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Posted - 2017.05.18 13:51:21 -
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Omar Alharazaad wrote:Interesting can be good. Ralph hit on a solid point though. Deep blue sat back and watched because of politics when the time of need was at hand. Friendlies who had no horse in the race came to help when it was asked for. Both of these things wont be forgotten any time soon, Devils have long memories after all. Hats off to Wingspan, Ancient Rhythm and The Culture for coming in and helping to make a pile of dead russians. Now new things happen. Also there may be a spike in demand for proteus, guardians and slave implants in Amarr... cash in on it while you can! Should be fun.
Easy to come to aid when the attackers aren't blue aswell and as far as im aware no help was requested, also why does it have to be repeated? VMG don't get involved in blue on blue, it's really not a hard concept.
To be honest I was shocked to see this thread considering we didn't take sides in this fight, it was a no win situition for VMG, damned if we do damned if we dont. My personal opinion I would of backed PIRAT, why? Because they actually still play the game.
Marmite is a completely different situation, Finns only days before were actively disrupting our contracts then Tora decides he wanted them to join. No one would be happy with this.
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Yaosus
Reliables Inc Vendetta Mercenary Group
80
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Posted - 2017.05.18 13:51:49 -
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Tora Bushido wrote:Yaosus wrote:Afterall its their work, you were docked in station each and everytime. And you're wrong again. My alts were in the top10 killers during these wars.
And your pockets were bulging with iskies they worked for right?
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rex largo
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2017.05.18 13:53:19 -
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gnshadowninja wrote:Omar Alharazaad wrote:Interesting can be good. Ralph hit on a solid point though. Deep blue sat back and watched because of politics when the time of need was at hand. Friendlies who had no horse in the race came to help when it was asked for. Both of these things wont be forgotten any time soon, Devils have long memories after all. Hats off to Wingspan, Ancient Rhythm and The Culture for coming in and helping to make a pile of dead russians. Now new things happen. Also there may be a spike in demand for proteus, guardians and slave implants in Amarr... cash in on it while you can! Should be fun. Easy to come to aid when the attackers aren't blue aswell and as far as im aware no help was requested, also why does it have to be repeated? VMG don't get involved in blue on blue, it's really not a hard concept. To be honest I was shocked to see this thread considering we didn't take sides in this fight, it was a no win situition for VMG, damned if we do damned if we dont. My personal opinion I would of backed PIRAT, why? Because they actually still play the game. Marmite is a completely different situation, Finns only days before were actively disrupting our contracts then Tora decides he wanted them to join. No one would be happy with this.
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Tora Bushido
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
3762
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Posted - 2017.05.18 13:53:39 -
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Yaosus wrote:Tora Bushido wrote:Yaosus wrote:Afterall its their work, you were docked in station each and everytime. And you're wrong again. My alts were in the top10 killers during these wars. And your pockets were bulging with iskies they worked for right? Wrong againnnn, as I SRP-ed all the losses the last few weeks. Come on, you can do better old man.
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Griever Takkow
We Are So Troubled Everyone Runs Screaming Vendetta Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2017.05.18 13:54:10 -
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Tora Bushido wrote:Griever Takkow wrote:Are you not the one that did the lowest of all lows by kicking the Co Alliance leader of Marmite because he disagreed with you and your direction! loyalty starts at home, if you cant be loyal there well! ..... nuff said. Yeh, but the difference between me and VMG, is that I am man enough to see my error and apologized to Kypp for what I did (and explained him what real life issues were the cause of it. And no, thats none of your business). Me and Kypp are ok now. He is one of the guys in VMG and PE we set personal standings too. You might not realise it, but we still have many loyal fun friends in VMG/PE, we speak to on a daily base. So in short, it's ok if you want to suck up to your grand Pooba, but at least do it with decent arguments.
It wasn't an argument it was a statement of FACT regarding loyalty that you brought up in the first place. You seem so bitter these days turning your back on and abusing those closest to you in game when you don't get your own way Kypp and Khrom to name a few, you may be back on terms with Kypp but it does not excuse you for what you did, bringing RL issues into a fictional game is just plain stupid we all have them ... man up and move on.
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Tora Bushido
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
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Posted - 2017.05.18 13:55:48 -
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Griever Takkow wrote:ringing RL issues into a fictional game is just plain stupid we all have them ... man up and move on. How about you go **** yourself. In a nice way of course.
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Yaosus
Reliables Inc Vendetta Mercenary Group
80
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Posted - 2017.05.18 13:56:06 -
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Exactly my point... "for the last few weeks" because you effed up big time and you are afraid your members will leave... they already started to do so.
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Tora Bushido
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
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Posted - 2017.05.18 14:06:36 -
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Yes, it's terrible, boohoo, Noooobody loves me no more.....
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Yaosus
Reliables Inc Vendetta Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2017.05.18 14:08:35 -
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In VMG we all love you :) Talk to Khrom maybe he's willing to take you in.
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rex largo
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2017.05.18 14:11:11 -
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Love how vendetta is deflecting this thread away from them and on to tora... *claps. Well done |
Erin Davis
Commonwealth Mercenaries Vendetta Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2017.05.18 14:11:34 -
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*Eats popcorn* |
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