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Lothros Andastar
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2017.05.19 21:04:29 -
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We all know CCP love that sweet Microtransaction cash. Allow us to name Non-Named nullsec systems for $5, but here is the glorious catch. People can buy renames as much as they like and only the latest purchase counts. This would net CCP tons of dank dollars by nullsec neckbeards trying to one-up each other by buying the name of CO2's Staging system :P |
RainbowDashC22 Shiratori
Ghost Nebula 237 Corporation Bloodline.
2
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Posted - 2017.05.19 22:01:44 -
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Ok.... A few question.
Who actually owns the system. I have rarely ever left High Sec, so I don't know how things work down in Null Sec, but if the system works the same in High Sec, you won't 'Own' a Null Sec system, because your Alliance fights off everyone else. There isn't actually a 'Feature' for Claiming systems, just whoever can fight off everyone else says they own it.
So then, who would actually 'Own' and have 'Claim' on the system, to be able to rename it? This thing goes into all the Mechanics about how Claiming a System works, and how someone else can contest that claim, and so on.
So which person would actually be able to buy the Renaming 'Item' to Rename the system, and what would be the rules about it? Could they name it anything they wanted? Or would they not be allowed to use Racist names, swears, and other offence names? How about no using Copyrighted Names? Like Firefly?
If going so far to rename Systems, why not Regions? |
Danika Princip
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5516
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Posted - 2017.05.19 22:25:32 -
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RainbowDashC22 Shiratori wrote:Ok.... A few question.
Who actually owns the system. I have rarely ever left High Sec, so I don't know how things work down in Null Sec, but if the system works the same in High Sec, you won't 'Own' a Null Sec system, because your Alliance fights off everyone else. There isn't actually a 'Feature' for Claiming systems, just whoever can fight off everyone else says they own it.
So then, who would actually 'Own' and have 'Claim' on the system, to be able to rename it? This thing goes into all the Mechanics about how Claiming a System works, and how someone else can contest that claim, and so on.
So which person would actually be able to buy the Renaming 'Item' to Rename the system, and what would be the rules about it? Could they name it anything they wanted? Or would they not be allowed to use Racist names, swears, and other offence names? How about no using Copyrighted Names? Like Firefly?
If going so far to rename Systems, why not Regions?
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Please don't post in nullsec related threads if you have literally no idea that the sovereignty system even exists, let alone how it works.
OP, no. Systems have history, and I really don't want to have to work out which of the fifty different variations on IM GAY is actually our staging system. |
Lothros Andastar
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
306
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Posted - 2017.05.19 22:27:53 -
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Danika Princip wrote:OP, no. Systems have history, and I really don't want to have to work out which of the fifty different variations on IM GAY is actually our staging system. CCP don't care. |
Blade Darth
Room for Improvement Limited Expectations
148
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Posted - 2017.05.19 23:14:47 -
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Maybe "official codenames" that show under system name but on map it's still same...? People who own the system could change it just like station name, in WH anchoring a keepstar would allow to give a codename.
For example there is a system 0SHT-A which I'd name "oh sh*t". On second thought looking at some station names maybe that's a bad idea.
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Sonya Corvinus
Grant Village
1196
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Posted - 2017.05.20 00:45:20 -
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I really don't want to have to set my destination to the system "gay butthead McButthead face". |
Akrasjel Lanate
Lanate Industries
1999
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Posted - 2017.05.20 06:27:00 -
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Nope and they have names even if they are only few random letters and numbers
CEO of Lanate Industries
Citizen of Solitude
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Linus Gorp
Ministry of Propaganda and Morale Black Marker
1407
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Posted - 2017.05.20 07:09:28 -
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Atomeon
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2017.05.20 22:17:34 -
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It will be abused, i m sure of this. What keeps me to buy them all and name all of them "Jita". |
Lothros Andastar
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
308
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Posted - 2017.05.20 23:01:40 -
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Atomeon wrote:It will be abused, i m sure of this. What keeps me to buy them all and name all of them "Jita". Another player can buy the licence for $5 and re-name it. There is no minimum duration. This way CCP will make lots of money!
Also, it would be obviously require systems to have unique names. It's obviously implied. |
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ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors Shadow Cartel
11667
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Posted - 2017.05.21 00:52:08 -
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Lothros Andastar wrote:Atomeon wrote:It will be abused, i m sure of this. What keeps me to buy them all and name all of them "Jita". Another player can buy the licence for $5 and re-name it. There is no minimum duration. This way CCP will make lots of money! Also, it would be obviously require systems to have unique names. It's obviously implied. Cool.
So if 100 people in a several thousand-person alliance chipped in $5 every month or so, they could effectively rename entire regions of systems? And in doing so, said alliance could potentially cause untold and endless frustration and tedium for other players who are attempting to navigate through said areas of null-sec.
Sure. Why not.
Because everyone would **totally** enjoy experiencing said frustration and tedium that serves no actual gameplay purposes.
(for the record, that last line was sarcasm)
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Blade Darth
Room for Improvement Limited Expectations
150
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Posted - 2017.05.21 05:13:40 -
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I'd love to spend 20 minutes trying to find Jita among JIta, Jlita (I and L), J1ta, Jiita, Jite and so on.
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Max Deveron
Deveron Shipyards and Technology
370
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Posted - 2017.05.21 16:06:39 -
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what iteration of this idea is this btw?
Anyway, the only way it could work....or should work....
Is like it is in some systems, even in highsec.....you have the planet name for example Planet VII of (system) but there is a name also in () next to it.
That i think could work.....keep the original nullsec(star) desigantion, but in () have the sov holder official (set by executor of course) system name next to it if one exists. There fore we the players can not be confused trying to navigate, and the star system gets a name. If the next sov holder dislikes the name....sure let them pay cash (or plex in the NES) for the item to rename it to what they want.
B-R5RB(Forgotten Wallet), as an example. |
Lothros Andastar
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
308
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Posted - 2017.05.21 17:43:52 -
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Max Deveron wrote:what iteration of this idea is this btw?
Anyway, the only way it could work....or should work....
Is like it is in some systems, even in highsec.....you have the planet name for example Planet VII of (system) but there is a name also in () next to it.
That i think could work.....keep the original nullsec(star) desigantion, but in () have the sov holder official (set by executor of course) system name next to it if one exists. There fore we the players can not be confused trying to navigate, and the star system gets a name. If the next sov holder dislikes the name....sure let them pay cash (or plex in the NES) for the item to rename it to what they want.
B-R5RB(Forgotten Wallet), as an example. No, you are overcomplicating it. Nothing to do with Sov, just anyone can pay $5 to rename any code-nullsec or WH system. |
Rivr Luzade
Kenshin. DARKNESS.
3037
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Posted - 2017.05.22 06:27:35 -
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Lothros Andastar wrote:No, you are overcomplicating it. Nothing to do with Sov, just anyone can pay $5 to rename any code-nullsec or WH system. Meaning a random muppet in Delve can pay 5Gé¼ and rename a system in Deklein, Oasa, Feythabolis or Syndicate just because and cause the people there a lot of hassle and coerce them into paying another 5Gé¼ to return the original name or at least change it into something less offensive/obnoxious? Yeah, sure, that sounds like a really great mechanic. And a wonderful new money grab for CCP.
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Blade Darth
Room for Improvement Limited Expectations
161
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Posted - 2017.05.22 06:55:32 -
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Why not make it an into isk sink. You could still pay with cash (>plex>isk) but it could possibly remove trillions from the game. Pay it to concord or whatever.
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Scialt
Universal Sanitation Corporation
132
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Posted - 2017.05.22 13:32:25 -
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If we had a time machine... the first to claim sov for a system and hold it for a month could have been able to set the name of they system and have it be permanent.
But... that ship sailed. No reason to change anything now. I hate the letter/number designations in null sec... but they are what they are at this point. |
Lothros Andastar
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
311
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Posted - 2017.05.22 13:46:31 -
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Rivr Luzade wrote:And a wonderful new money grab for CCP. Exactly. No reason why CCP shouldn't introduce it. |
Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite CODE.
4106
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Posted - 2017.05.22 14:20:27 -
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To be honest, it does not make a stupid idea look better just because you make an appeal to CCPs wallet.
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Old Pervert
Perkone Caldari State
85
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Posted - 2017.05.23 20:19:26 -
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That would be hell for people who roam through space often.
"Everyone set dest for MTO-2, align outgate" "FC break" "Go for FC" "My nav won't find MTO-2, I looked on a map and it's called Deez-Nutz now." "****... sigh... very well everyone set dest for deez-nutz..."
I mean, it'd be funny, but it would totally screw with people's ability to navigate through space that they're supposed to be familiar with by living in/around/near it. |
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Lothros Andastar
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
314
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Posted - 2017.05.23 21:17:47 -
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Old Pervert wrote:I mean, it'd be funny, but it would totally screw with people's ability to navigate through space that they're supposed to be familiar with by living in/around/near it. This is not something CCP care about, thus irreverent. |
Alever Minmatar
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2017.05.23 21:33:53 -
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Lothros Andastar wrote:Danika Princip wrote:OP, no. Systems have history, and I really don't want to have to work out which of the fifty different variations on IM GAY is actually our staging system. CCP don't care.
if ccp didn't care you wouldn't end up with Amarr Citizen 78523897 and Gallente Corporation 34562893465
people that cant use proper names are why we don't allow naming of systems or custom paints, shouldn't be allowed to name ships or stations without going through certain filters |
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