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AEther Galatia
Celestial Eternity
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Posted - 2017.05.26 21:22:24 -
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Who should or shouldn't the InterBus system, Ourapheh, belong to? It is in the heart of the CONCORD Assembly and somewhat of a diplomatic and informational central point. Celestial Eternity had a Citadel there but it was destroyed by what I understand to be Amarrians vying to own the system. I'm fine with that but it's a very important system and is a political issue. Please provide your insights if you understand the nature of the matter. |
Elsebeth Rhiannon
SoE Roughriders Electus Matari
1017
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Posted - 2017.05.26 21:46:18 -
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Is this a trick question?
It's an InterBus system? |
Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3971
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Posted - 2017.05.26 21:54:49 -
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Gotta say, I'm with Elsebeth on this one. It's a high-security Interbus system. Interbus owns it. Interbus is going to keep owning it. Nobody blew up your citadel to try to own the system. They blew up your citadel because it was an Astrahus in high-security space owned by a corporation with 1 pilot in it, and that pilot has a record of losing haulers.
So they declared war on you just to blow it up. For fun.
I'd be shocked if there's more to it than that. |
AEther Galatia
Celestial Eternity
6
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Posted - 2017.05.26 21:57:33 -
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Elsebeth Rhiannon wrote:Is this a trick question?
It's an InterBus system?
The Amarr and PL seem to disagree based on the renters fee they are charging.
Here is a portion of the mail sent to me.
Hello, allow me to introduce my corp ((corp name)). We are a pvp corp within the well known pvp alliance Pandemic Legion . Currently my role in ((corp name)) is as a senior collections officer for Gallente high sec. This means I'm tasked with the endearing job of sending out mails to structure owners within our range of influence. Whilst we very much are mostly interested in null sec pvp, we have the capability through wormholes and jump clones to influence high sec, in particular major trade hubs and their surrounding systems. We also have a healthy network of current tenants that choose to assist our enforcement of rates be it war defences for tenants or the reinforcing of structures owned by non complying corporations. Through experience and feedback from tenants we've developed two options for payment:
1. 450mil/ Month for single non-trade hub placed structures, 1.5b/month for single trade hub placed structures.
2. 300mil/ Month for non-trade hub placed structures (Minimum 3), 1.2b/month for trade hub placed structures (Minimum 2)
... it goes on from there. |
Mizhara Del'thul
Coreli Corporation Mercenary Coalition
1959
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Posted - 2017.05.26 22:00:32 -
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And this impacts Interbus how exactly? They have no reason to give two tugs of a dead slaver's pecker about what you or Pandemic Legion does in the system as long as you don't start crap with Interbus. |
AEther Galatia
Celestial Eternity
6
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Posted - 2017.05.26 22:03:24 -
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Mizhara Del'thul wrote:And this impacts Interbus how exactly? They have no reason to give two tugs of a dead slaver's pecker about what you or Pandemic Legion does in the system as long as you don't start crap with Interbus.
It impacts InterBus because PL are disrupting proper trade within the system which is supposed to be a neutral system which is run by the organization which contains the most comprehensive star map information in all of New Eden. |
Mizhara Del'thul
Coreli Corporation Mercenary Coalition
1959
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Posted - 2017.05.26 22:07:36 -
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Oh cutie, no. Capsuleers littering their lawns with citadels does not impact their trade, dearie. Interbus does their trade from their own vastly superior structures and assets. |
Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3972
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Posted - 2017.05.26 22:10:52 -
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AEther Galatia wrote:It impacts InterBus because PL are disrupting proper trade within the system which is supposed to be a neutral system which is run by the organization which contains the most comprehensive star map information in all of New Eden.
No, it doesn't. Pandemic Legion isn't even disrupting you. They're making their serfs do it. And that doesn't affect Interbus one little bit. Interbus still collects their taxes from pirate-hunting in the system, and still controls who can and can't bring restricted assets (like capital ships) into the system (hint: it's not capsuleers, but I betcha Interbus can if they want!), and otherwise... they don't care. They don't need to care. You getting blown up doesn't cost them any revenue, and as we've seen with the Quafe convoy situation, ultimately, that's all the Empires, CONCORD, and their entire high-security framework really cares about. |
AEther Galatia
Celestial Eternity
6
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Posted - 2017.05.26 22:12:16 -
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The Citadel we had setup there scanned the information on every ship that passed through the system because we had an agreement and technology that InterBus provided us for the system. There are no stations in the system and the only proper infrastructure there is what other neutral organizations setup there. That is no longer possible without our Citadel there and this information is now being gained by PL. I will simply setup a Citadel with an agreement elsewhere, that's fine. But I really liked my agreement with InterBus because they are neutral which allowed us to scan any ship not just certain factions. |
Mizhara Del'thul
Coreli Corporation Mercenary Coalition
1959
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Posted - 2017.05.26 22:19:57 -
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No name new kid gets exclusive access to Interbus tech not available to other capsuleers. The same guy who also has "serious" ties to Blood Raiders and goons.
That's adorable. |
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AEther Galatia
Celestial Eternity
6
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Posted - 2017.05.26 22:24:20 -
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You don't have to be famous to get access to things in New Eden. In fact, most people who have the most access to things are in the shadows unknown by all. I simply came out of hiding to see what I could achieve. If no organizations show any interest then I will simply go back to the shadows. |
Mizhara Del'thul
Coreli Corporation Mercenary Coalition
1960
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Posted - 2017.05.26 22:26:12 -
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Yeah, that line might work better somewhere where outlandish unsubstantiated claims aren't routinely scoffed at and ignored. |
Lasairiona Raske
Raske Holdings
414
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Posted - 2017.05.26 22:30:26 -
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I agree with Miz. (Damn, why does this keep happening?)
Are you a devil or an angel
Sent here from heaven or from hell?
Sweet temptress, I'm wrapped in your tangles
Can't find my way out of your spell
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Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3972
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Posted - 2017.05.26 22:33:50 -
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She's got this perverse habit of saying smart things. |
AEther Galatia
Celestial Eternity
7
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Posted - 2017.05.26 23:55:28 -
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I'd like to bet you girls are SOE toting pacifists. Unfortunately SOE is not really powerful out in the Galaxy. Sure they have a few isolated planets here and there where they hold great influence. Unfortunately planets of theirs which are claimed by the Gallente Federation are quickly transformed to proper running governments. You girls can go back to Thera where you belong. |
Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3987
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Posted - 2017.05.27 00:04:06 -
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Ok, now that I've read that statement half a dozen times, I think I can safely say...
What? |
Graelyn
Akagi Initiative Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
1099
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Posted - 2017.05.27 00:18:48 -
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AEther Galatia wrote:I'd like to bet you girls are SOE toting pacifists. Unfortunately SOE is not really powerful out in the Galaxy. Sure they have a few isolated planets here and there where they hold great influence. Unfortunately planets of theirs which are claimed by the Gallente Federation are quickly transformed to proper running governments. You girls can go back to Thera where you belong.
Kador's Balls, I don't think I've ever seen an aspiring 'information broker' reveal his blatant incompetence on so grand a scale.
And in public! I'm in Heaven!
Cardinal Graelyn
Imperial Liaison, I-RED
Amarr Loyalist of the Year - YC113
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Halcyon Ember
Repracor Industries
372
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Posted - 2017.05.27 00:22:00 -
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I am confounded by bafflement |
AEther Galatia
Celestial Eternity
7
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Posted - 2017.05.27 00:25:52 -
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Graelyn wrote:AEther Galatia wrote:I'd like to bet you girls are SOE toting pacifists. Unfortunately SOE is not really powerful out in the Galaxy. Sure they have a few isolated planets here and there where they hold great influence. Unfortunately planets of theirs which are claimed by the Gallente Federation are quickly transformed to proper running governments. You girls can go back to Thera where you belong. Kador's Balls, I don't think I've ever seen an aspiring 'information broker' reveal his blatant incompetence on so grand a scale. And in public! I'm in Heaven!
Don't bother with Heaven. Join me in Alenia (Verge Vendor region). It's a great system. Plenty of transforming government left to be done, but it's well enough. I turtle up in the Jacus Roden station there. And I assure you 100% it's Gallente Federation owned, operated, funded, and the government is completely controlled by the Gallente. Hell, if you're lucky enough maybe Jacus will visit you in station! |
Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3993
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Posted - 2017.05.27 00:29:03 -
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I think he's lost his mind.... |
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Graelyn
Akagi Initiative Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
1101
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Posted - 2017.05.27 00:29:40 -
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Heh, you have no idea who I am either.
Your shadow skills must be in high demand.
Cardinal Graelyn
Imperial Liaison, I-RED
Amarr Loyalist of the Year - YC113
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Mizhara Del'thul
Coreli Corporation Mercenary Coalition
1975
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Posted - 2017.05.27 00:39:54 -
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You heard it here, folks. I'm a bona fide pacifist. Also dying from laughter, but that's probably entirely unrelated. |
AEther Galatia
Celestial Eternity
7
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Posted - 2017.05.27 00:42:08 -
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Graelyn wrote:Heh, you have no idea who I am either.
Your shadow skills must be in high demand.
They are too specialized to be in high demand. But that doesn't mean they aren't useful. And what's to say I don't know who you are? You're a first gen capsuleer with ties to the Royal Amarr. You are a slave in a managerial position who is slightly mistreated even though you are further up in the hierarchy. You were surprised early on in life to learn that even the Amarr royals are slaves if they aren't "pure" enough. And you realized who *I* was due to your understanding of royal languages and that messages that are properly encrypted get to their intended recipient when necessary. |
Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3996
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Posted - 2017.05.27 01:04:06 -
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Mizhara Del'thul wrote:I'm a bona fide pacifist.
Saving this quote!
(also: you totally are. You live for peace... and when you've killed everyone else, you'll have it!)
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Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
3930
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Posted - 2017.05.27 01:55:39 -
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So ... uh. Arrendis?
I think this one might be an actual troll. He's a little too ... deft ... about being clueless. |
Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4002
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Posted - 2017.05.27 01:58:26 -
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Aria Jenneth wrote:So ... uh. Arrendis?
I think this one might be an actual troll. He's a little too ... deft ... about being clueless.
It's certainly possible. He was certainly more credible before the weird SOE rant. |
Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
2403
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Posted - 2017.05.27 04:13:06 -
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This is a riot....
A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.
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Elsebeth Rhiannon
SoE Roughriders Electus Matari
1027
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Posted - 2017.05.27 04:22:26 -
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Original poster needs to look up "blackmail" and "protection money". That's a nasty thing PL did there but it hardly makes them owners of the system.
Also SoE are totally pacifist. True story. |
AEther Galatia
Celestial Eternity
8
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Posted - 2017.05.27 04:22:53 -
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Claudia Osyn wrote:This is a riot....
I expected no less. Calling the "sisters" out from hiding would do such a thing. It had to happen sometime. Like I said, they hold no power out in the Galaxy and it's time to prove that. |
AEther Galatia
Celestial Eternity
8
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Posted - 2017.05.27 04:24:39 -
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Elsebeth Rhiannon wrote:Original poster needs to look up "blackmail" and "protection money". That's a nasty thing PL did there but it hardly makes them owners of the system.
Also SoE are totally pacifist. True story.
They own the system. If they control it, they own it. |
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