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Averyl
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
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Posted - 2017.06.05 15:34:41 -
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OMG PB and Fade are hemorrhaging ISK because Horde NBI gives out 300k ISK ships to newbeans... it's the end of the world as we know it! |
Averyl
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
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Posted - 2017.06.05 17:52:26 -
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Quote:" where I tested security with a Probe fitting that allowed me to blast through the most secure checkpoint we have at C4C's Keepstar then into GME
Blasted through? More like we were too busy watching porn or shooting at real PvP pilots instead of worrying about your shitfit probe...
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Averyl
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
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Posted - 2017.06.05 20:19:36 -
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Quote:Gareth,
Rarely anyone was willing to assist me except for a limited few eager to earn some cash quickly, and your markets had very little supplies that I as a Minmatar pilot needed in order to operate, much less the needed munitions to enable I and several others who discussed the innefficiencies occuring within your alliance.
People tried on numerous occasions to help you, however you never listened and had your own version of reality you were living in. You were also told that if you saw something that was missing on market you were fully able to seed it yourself. However, you wanted to try and sell items that NBI gave out for free to new players which is a lose-lose situation on your part. What you perceive as inefficiencies in your mind is actually the second largest alliance in EVE helping new players overcome the very steep cost and learning curve. You refused to listen and instead decided to **** up our chat channels, forums, and even local bitching and whining about how unfair and incorrect everything was done. Clearly you have zero experience living and operating in null otherwise you would have paid more attention to the people that were trying to help you. Not, as you say trying to scam you for a quick buck. Yes, munitions come and go, if you didn't have what you needed buy the crap in Jita and ship it to wherever you wanted. No one was stopping you. If however you think that seeding stuff that no one but you used, was an indication of how "bad" the market conditions were then once again your inability to shut your pie hole for five seconds and listen to the people that have been in this game for years. We all were willing to help you, unfortunately you were not willing to listen nor did you seem to care to. Maybe one day you will finally figure out what you did wrong, but I'm not holding my breath on that... wouldn't want to turn blue. |
Averyl
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
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Posted - 2017.06.06 16:09:07 -
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Quote:I have entire list of things I disagree with how Pandemic Horde is ran, and pretty much have said them already:
1. No, not really... just ones that make zero sense 2. Clearly you have no idea the complexity of null sov economy and what all is involved. You barely saw a fraction of a percent of it. 3. As was said previously, this is for security and ease of logistics. 4. Rule 1 of null is watch local/intel... if you break rule #1, your results may vary, standing fleet or no standing fleet.
6. 12,000 members can pretty much do whatever they want with the ore they mine. We don't judge... 7. No one has to be dependent on any shipping company. If you don't like it, train a JF alt and haul it yourself. Once you do that, you will understand why shipping costs what it does. Jump fuel isn't exactly cheap. 8. It's null... everything costs more. Live with it (or not). You don't have 50,000 bot miners running in belts 23/7 like in empire. 9. Ego's... yeah some... no different than the one you have where it's beneath you to listen to anyone trying to help you. 10. Wrong items for the market... learn the market before you try to sell in it. 11. Gobbins is the alliance CEO. He has an entire team to help manage 12,000 members. He doesn't have time to respond to every single little issue every day. Thats how real corporations work, not some snowflake crap you read in a book. 12. Your doing it wrong... period. 13. Don't expect to join up, be here a week or two, with little to no PvP background and expect to try and change fleet doctrine. These guys have been doing it for years and are damned good at what they do. 14. Large corp, people have RL and aren't on 23/7. Probably depended on who/what you were trying to ask or do. 15. Your lack of PvP background or the fact that we cover such a broad range of member skill levels shows how little you understand when you post this comment. If you think our fleet fits suck, ask the guys that regularly get bashed by our "inefficient" fits. 16. Art of war doesn't apply to internet spaceships... there was no DD's, Blops and Titan bridges in Ancient China. 17. Yet again, if you don't see it, build it or seed it.
19. No one rats belts in null... 20. Our space is just fine, you just don't understand the logistics of null. You want crappy space, go talk to the guys in Providence. 21. Clearly you don't understand how the Sov system works, or coalitions... or much of anything null related. This isn't empire space. 22. No one ever said null was 100% safe. Nothing in EVE is 100% safe, unless you dock up in empire, log off and never log back on. Then it's still not really safe. Learn that or go play WoW. 23. Then don't take the handout, no one forced you to. That will save them for the new players that really want to learn and grow in this game. Which we will gladly help them in any way we can. 24. Actually the higher ups work to protect everyone, however first and foremost you are required to learn how to watch out for yourself. Rorqs and other caps have enough tank to survive long enough for a response fleet to try and save them. Your little T1 frigate that you fit yourself because you refuse to use the tried and tested fits provided isn't going to last long enough to type w's in fleet chat. That's if your even in fleet or on comms.[
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Averyl
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
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Posted - 2017.06.06 19:01:23 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:The OP's economic analysis is missing graphs.
NG;DR
Don't encourage him... |
Averyl
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
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Posted - 2017.06.06 22:04:17 -
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Zanar Skwigelf wrote:I'm surprised you can JF minerals considering its easy to put your mining Titan in the top belt and mine away like the rest of null sec.
Didn't you hear? Horde has figured out a way to mount strip miners on a Keepstar... it's true arm chair hold my beer mining at it's finest. |
Averyl
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
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Posted - 2017.06.07 19:41:45 -
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Pterry Dactyl Kasterborous wrote:
-lol 500 billion investment
That is funny... even if it were accurate... Once again it's an indication of his ignorance of null mechanics. Every one of those citadels has some sort of purpose. Many of the ones he's complaining about don't even belong to Horde. Those that do are being used for something. Just because there isn't someone docked in them or what he perceives as a lack of market in them doesn't mean they don't have a very valid and useful purpose. Regardless, it's not like he'd listen even if it were explained. |
Averyl
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
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Posted - 2017.06.08 20:52:59 -
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Quote:On a proper note, thats something that should be stated beforehand on your corporate profile
Thats the entire purpose of talking to the recruiters and asking good questions in the recruitment channel. If you didn't ask good pointed questions about something other than mining/industry then that's not our lookout.
It's a nullsec alliance, PvP is a given. It's the only way to hold sov... You can't do it with mining barges. |
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