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SurrenderMonkey
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Posted - 2007.05.16 18:10:00 -
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This is just a silly question. I know escaping from concord is an exploit and whatnot - this is mere curiosity about a completely trivial subject...
Is it at all possible to destroy a concord ship, or are they completely invulnerable?
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Kermis
Caldari Cryo Crypt inc.
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Posted - 2007.05.16 18:20:00 -
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I think you could in the past, but now they're either invlunerable, or pwn so hard noone's ever done it, I think.
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WhitePhantom
Gallente Edenists
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Posted - 2007.05.16 19:16:00 -
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Originally by: SurrenderMonkey This is just a silly question. I know escaping from concord is an exploit and whatnot - this is mere curiosity about a completely trivial subject...
Is it at all possible to destroy a concord ship, or are they completely invulnerable?
Even if you could destroy them, the amount of ships they would be able to re-enforce is insaince.
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Ghan Tylous
The Graduates Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2007.05.16 19:37:00 -
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I think even killing a CONCORD ship would be seem as an exploit. CONCORD jams you in a instant. You can't log anything. --- It have always fallen to a few to sacrifice for the good of many
Originally by: CCP Sharkbait we are screwed.
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Easy Target
Minmatar Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.05.16 19:47:00 -
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i have heard it has been done on test server with a dread being fed stontium for its seige tank using drones as its offense
Not sure on the truth as you cant get a dread into high sec.. but meh... :) -----------------------------------------------
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Major Stormer
Caldari Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.05.16 21:21:00 -
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Yes I believe it is possible to kill small CONCORD craft.
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Asestorian
Minmatar Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2007.05.16 22:07:00 -
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All CONCORD ships can be destroyed. You just need to survive long enough to do it
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Kermis
Caldari Cryo Crypt inc.
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Posted - 2007.05.17 02:22:00 -
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Edited by: Kermis on 17/05/2007 02:21:06 I've seen a video once of a bunch of guys remote repping a ship. It tanked cocncord for a few minutes while the reppers didn't get agressed. However that got taken out, and now repping is seen as agression.
Edit: I think he also managed to smartbomb a couple of small concord frigs.
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Cyberflayer
Mercurialis Inc. Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.05.17 05:15:00 -
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Yes, you can kill Concord, but there's no point because they don't drop anything and you'll lose your ship. Concord ships aren't Jove ships so they're not godly, but the sheer numbers they throw at you coupled with the omgEW is what kills you. ---
Originally by: JabJabVVV Apparently titans cost over a billion isk to produce
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Myra Rodan
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Posted - 2007.05.17 14:32:00 -
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There used to be a slight bug where one person would aggro concord, and the rest of the group would repair him, and concord wouldn't ever target the rest of the group. That got corrected, so now if you repair someone who has aggroed concord, you will also get targeted. Also, concord is apparently more intelligent now, and will call in bigger reinforcements, until eventually a titan will show up. I wasn't around at this time, but apparently a pirate corp once decided to shut down a busy high sec system, blowing up everyone who entered, and surviving the concord reprisal for a VERY long time (12 hours?? don't know how much of the time is exageration). Sadly that corp is no longer in existance. Anyone remember their name? I know there are some videos around from it.
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Nikotine
Knights of Liberty Lupus Caerulus
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Posted - 2007.05.17 14:39:00 -
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Originally by: Myra Rodan ...and surviving the concord reprisal for a VERY long time (12 hours?? don't know how much of the time is exageration).
Aaah... you gotta love those urban legends
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Imperator Jora'h
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Posted - 2007.05.17 17:06:00 -
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Originally by: Nikotine
Originally by: Myra Rodan ...and surviving the concord reprisal for a VERY long time (12 hours?? don't know how much of the time is exageration).
Aaah... you gotta love those urban legends
It's not an Urban Legend. Actually happened.
This event came to be known as "The Yulai Incident" and happened in early 2004 (IIRC). The attacking corp was Zombie (I think, Killer Clowns keeps popping into my mind for this one too but pretty sure it was Zombie).
Back then CONCORD did not aggress people supporting attacking ships so they setup a super gank in Yulai (back then Yulai was a hub system like Jita is today). They had massive support groups remote boosting their attacking ships and CONCORD was unable to kill the attackers. The attack went on awhile and they managed to gank something over 100 ships.
For their trouble they got a week long account suspension (think it was a week) and all those who lost their ship to them were reimbursed in full by the Devs. I *think* the suspension came not so much due to the attempt but because at some point a Dev came on and told them to cease and desist and they continued anyway. Might be wrong on that though as it has been awhile now.
After that CONCORD was buffed to what we see today and if what I hear is true CONCORD has been buffed again on SiSi which means it could be headed for Tranquility (CONCORD will now zap drones).
AFAIK anything in EVE is killable except NPC stations and jump gates. Theoretically you could even drop a Polaris ship although as a practical matter it is nearly invincible (you'd probably crash a node before getting enough ships in the same place to kill it). CONCORD is not so uber as a Polaris ship but they hit so hard and fast with the omgwtfbbq that again, as a practical matter, killing them is not likely and certainly won't get you anything.
Still, pretty sure it is not an exploit to try or even succeed in killing a CONCORD ship. It is just an exploit to not die yourself if CONCORD decides to have at you.
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Kidari Tenlos
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Posted - 2007.05.18 02:30:00 -
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/me has tested on SiSi a number of CONCORD and faction ships.
Gallente Federation Customs (2 Comets, 2 Dominixes) don't hit hard, but use stop modules (Stasis webs with 100% speed reduction - means you can't warp either) and ecm that just reduces your max locked targets to 0.
CONCORD never used any GM mods like that, but their battleships hit for about 1,000 dps, (250 of each kind) and they warp in 5 BS plus support for an offence.
blows through 80,000 pts of armor in less than 15 seconds, but they are killable, especially with help.
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2007.05.18 09:34:00 -
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Last time I tried on SiSi I didn't manage to blow up a single CONCORD frig even thought I could tank them. However since then CONCORD now also NOS you to death within a few seconds (and dreads have a fair amount of cap). So anyone managing to pull off a CONCORD kill now has skills or is a HUGE group of alpha strikers (which would prolly spawn enough CONCORD to bring the node down).
Linkage to the original Zombie attacks Yulai video
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Buyerr
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Posted - 2007.05.25 00:28:00 -
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why even give people the oputunity to target and attack if its seen as a exsploit.. like giving a child some candy and saying Don't eat it... tsk
Originally by: Ghan Tylous Edited by: Ghan Tylous on 16/05/2007 20:59:57 I think even killing a CONCORD ship would be seem as an exploit. CONCORD jams you in a instant. You can't lock anything.
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Kidari Tenlos
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Posted - 2007.05.25 08:59:00 -
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Originally by: Buyerr why even give people the oputunity to target and attack if its seen as a exsploit.. like giving a child some candy and saying Don't eat it... tsk
Same reason Life gives you the opportunity to shoot someone in the face.
It's realistic.
Just because it's not a good option, doesn't mean you shouldn't have it.
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Countess Markievicz
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Posted - 2007.05.25 09:48:00 -
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Originally by: Chribba Last time I tried on SiSi I didn't manage to blow up a single CONCORD frig even thought I could tank them. However since then CONCORD now also NOS you to death within a few seconds (and dreads have a fair amount of cap). So anyone managing to pull off a CONCORD kill now has skills or is a HUGE group of alpha strikers (which would prolly spawn enough CONCORD to bring the node down).
What is the music on the Youtube film?
Linkage to the original Zombie attacks Yulai video
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Qwakrz
Minmatar Suicidal Tendencies Ltd Peons of Doom
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Posted - 2007.05.26 18:29:00 -
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Originally by: Countess Markievicz What is the music on the Youtube film?
The music is Zombie by Cranberries (can be found on the Best of MTV Unplugged 2)
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AceOf Spades
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Posted - 2007.05.26 22:15:00 -
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Originally by: Kidari Tenlos
Originally by: Buyerr why even give people the oputunity to target and attack if its seen as a exsploit.. like giving a child some candy and saying Don't eat it... tsk
Same reason Life gives you the opportunity to shoot someone in the face.
It's realistic.
Just because it's not a good option, doesn't mean you shouldn't have it.
Well, the difference is in real life u have a chance to get away with it. If it is true that those ppl got suspended and everyone else reimbursed, that's just some hypocritical b.s. and this game is not as free-play sandbox as it is claimed to be.
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F'nog
Amarr Celestial Horizon Corp. Valainaloce
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Posted - 2007.05.27 03:25:00 -
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Originally by: AceOf Spades
Originally by: Kidari Tenlos
Originally by: Buyerr why even give people the oputunity to target and attack if its seen as a exsploit.. like giving a child some candy and saying Don't eat it... tsk
Same reason Life gives you the opportunity to shoot someone in the face.
It's realistic.
Just because it's not a good option, doesn't mean you shouldn't have it.
Well, the difference is in real life u have a chance to get away with it. If it is true that those ppl got suspended and everyone else reimbursed, that's just some hypocritical b.s. and this game is not as free-play sandbox as it is claimed to be.
They were banned (temporarily) for refusing to stop when a GM asked them to so that the matter could be investigated and a decision decided upon. That's the only rule they broke.
I used to get It. Then It changed. Now I don't even know what It is.
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