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Machimpy
Minmatar Secret Service Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2017.06.09 07:45:02 -
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As the title,
We already have delay for targeting ships after decloak, that was introduced long ago after many tears from nullsecs due to solo bombers typically wrecking their day.
So then Im saying, it also should fall to logic to have an as significant a delay when using smartbombs after decloak ? |
Tuttomenui II
Aliastra Gallente Federation
637
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Posted - 2017.06.09 08:13:04 -
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No. Bombs don't require target lock. Should we apply your insane Idea to smart bombs as well. |
Machimpy
Minmatar Secret Service Ushra'Khan
5
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Posted - 2017.06.09 08:17:13 -
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Tuttomenui II wrote:No. Bombs don't require target lock. Should we apply your insane Idea to smart bombs as well.
Cloaky smartbomber detected.
I never talked about bombs.
Smartbombing yea, namely the cloaky and utterly risk-adverse type that gets away of blowing up 3bil pods for literally no effort. |
Tuttomenui II
Aliastra Gallente Federation
637
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Posted - 2017.06.09 08:37:35 -
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Yeah misread, but my comment is sarcasm so it still works to make my point. Still |
Black Pedro
Yammerschooner
3501
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Posted - 2017.06.09 09:31:19 -
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Machimpy wrote:Smartbombing yea, namely the cloaky and utterly risk-adverse type that gets away of blowing up 3bil pods for literally no effort. Point of Order: Why should the value of the pod reflect upon the effort or risk of the opponent to blow it up? How would it be a better game if pods (or ships for that matter) were safer if they were worth more or were carrying more valuable things?
Someone needs to provide some risk for pods, which let's be frank, are near impervious in Empire space where there are no bubbles. I for one am glad there are apparently some players stalking these veteran players and apply some risk to them flaunting their wealth to improve their PvP chances over the poor new players who cannot afford such bling implants.
So, no OP, it is not time to make pods even safer and give more advantage to complacent veteran players with heads full of expensive implants. Let's keep those players at least at theoretical risk to being out-played and losing those implants. Not only does this risk mean players have to make a real choice, implant loss is a great stimulator of the economy and keeps the markets humming along.
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April rabbit
Mosquito Squadron The-Culture
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Posted - 2017.06.09 09:39:23 -
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Machimpy wrote:Tuttomenui II wrote:No. Bombs don't require target lock. Should we apply your insane Idea to smart bombs as well. Cloaky smartbomber detected. I never talked about bombs. Smartbombing yea, namely the cloaky and utterly risk-adverse type that gets away of blowing up 3bil pods for literally no effort. Warping in 3-billion POD gates to gates in low-sec?
Here is the winner! |
Lan Wang
Knights of the Posing Meat Snuffed Out
4094
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Posted - 2017.06.09 10:37:29 -
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Machimpy wrote:Tuttomenui II wrote:No. Bombs don't require target lock. Should we apply your insane Idea to smart bombs as well. Cloaky smartbomber detected. I never talked about bombs. Smartbombing yea, namely the cloaky and utterly risk-adverse type that gets away of blowing up 3bil pods for literally no effort.
tell you what, stop flying 3bil pods in paper thin shuttles, i mean how ******** are you flying your 3bil pod in a ship that has 0 tank, risk-adverse, lol totally wrong on soo many levels give it a try sometime and see
Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel
Calm down miner.
As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they
would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*
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Max Deveron
Deveron Shipyards and Technology
382
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Posted - 2017.06.09 10:57:39 -
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First of all......... This is General Discussion not Features and Ideas.
2nd..... no for the reasons already posted by others. |
Cartheron Crust
Matari Exodus
213
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Posted - 2017.06.09 11:23:22 -
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Stop being bad instead. |
Joey Bags
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
90
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Posted - 2017.06.09 17:49:41 -
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April rabbit wrote:Machimpy wrote:Tuttomenui II wrote:No. Bombs don't require target lock. Should we apply your insane Idea to smart bombs as well. Cloaky smartbomber detected. I never talked about bombs. Smartbombing yea, namely the cloaky and utterly risk-adverse type that gets away of blowing up 3bil pods for literally no effort. Warping in 3-billion POD gates to gates in low-sec? Here is the winner!
Sadly, I have done exactly this. Amamake, full load of Mid-Grade Virtue implants and some blingy boosters as well. It was a huge loss for me at the time. Having said that I vote no to this proposal. There is risk to this game and this is a fair and viable one. If someone is that risk averse to ask CCP to change the mechanics of the game, don't fly with expensive implants. It's that simple. As for the argument that the vets have all the advantages, well, yes in fact they do. They are not insurmountable advantages and no matter how much ISK someone has someone has more or how many skill points someone has more or however much experience they have (that counts for the most) on occasion they lose too.
Play your game. Not someone else's. Enjoy.
You can pick your friends and you can pick your nose but you can't pick your friends nose.
Unless you podded them...and collected their corpse.
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Teckos Pech
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
6577
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Posted - 2017.06.09 19:49:27 -
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Machimpy wrote:Tuttomenui II wrote:No. Bombs don't require target lock. Should we apply your insane Idea to smart bombs as well. Cloaky smartbomber detected. I never talked about bombs. Smartbombing yea, namely the cloaky and utterly risk-adverse type that gets away of blowing up 3bil pods for literally no effort.
FYI it is risk averse.
Second, please don't misuse the concept of risk averse.
K, thanks bye.
"The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design."--Friedrich August von Hayek
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Blade Darth
Room for Improvement Limited Expectations
225
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Posted - 2017.06.09 20:41:19 -
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Why should an aoe untargeted weapon require lock-reactvation delay?
Beside stabbed cloaky relic hunter interceptors this would benefit or hinder no one. And since its the only way to kill them, it should remain in the game.
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ISD Bubblemoon
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2017.06.09 22:46:20 -
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Moved to Player Features and Ideas Discussion
ISD Bubblemoon
Lieutenant
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department
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Lan Wang
Knights of the Posing Meat Snuffed Out
4099
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Posted - 2017.06.09 22:55:52 -
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ISD Bubblemoon wrote:Moved to Player Features and Ideas Discussion
wouldnt it be easier if we just deleted it?
Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel
Calm down miner.
As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they
would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
8565
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Posted - 2017.06.09 23:37:49 -
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I don't know. A weapon that needs no lock logically need no delay. But it rather adds to the flavor of the game that you can just decloak and go full disco right there. Much lols to be had.
Bring back DEEEEP Space!
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Danika Princip
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5555
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Posted - 2017.06.09 23:54:49 -
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Maybe you should try not warping gate to gate in lowsec in a pod? |
Wanda Fayne
642
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Posted - 2017.06.10 01:10:22 -
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Podding my bling through space...
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Henry Plantgenet
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
216
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Posted - 2017.06.10 01:17:05 -
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Actually you can hit cloak -> Light all smartbombs for some reason |
Machimpy
Minmatar Secret Service Ushra'Khan
5
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Posted - 2017.06.10 07:42:20 -
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Henry Plantgenet wrote:Actually you can hit cloak -> Light all smartbombs for some reason
yep |
Marcus Binchiette
Federal Vanguard
110
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Posted - 2017.06.10 17:47:20 -
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Machimpy wrote:Tuttomenui II wrote:No. Bombs don't require target lock. Should we apply your insane Idea to smart bombs as well. Cloaky smartbomber detected. I never talked about bombs. Smartbombing yea, namely the cloaky and utterly risk-adverse type that gets away of blowing up 3bil pods for literally no effort.
Well the bomber needs to locate the pods first, and then manouver on grid into range without hitting a collidable object . I've got to say, that does require some skill.
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