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Posted - 2017.06.25 19:13:47 -
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Yves Nat wrote:But how do you "win" EVE? Seriously, how do you win at the game? Once one player wins, that game is over. How can that happen? It's a sandbox so you can set your own victory conditions, but classically you "win" at Eve by defeating the other players and securing your objective. Whether that be a Rogue Drone site in highsec, a Faction Warfare complex or claiming sovereignty over a system. The biggest, most powerful, and most competently piloted fleet will win an objective over the smaller, weaker, or more incompetent side.
That is a fundamental truth of Eve Online. Power comes from the barrel of a blaster in space, and the deepest pockets when it comes to economic matters.
Yves Nat wrote:How do you take all the ISK, so no one else has any, so everyone else has zero? Sorry, I don't see how EVE can possibly played to a zero-sum point. If you blow up my ship, you win that engagement, I go back to my hanger and get in another ship, and I keep playing. If the things you lose are replaceable, they aren't really lost. You don't need all the ISK (or ore, or ships or whatever), you just need more than the other guy. If you can afford to field X ISK worth of ships on contesting an objective and I 2X, then I most likely will win. You can have 1B ISK, but if I have 1.2B ISK I will get that PLEX on the market and you won't.
Power is relative in this game, both in terms of assets and players that one can call onl. I agree though, if you just want to fly a shuttle around all day and don't care about objectives, well then I can't stop you. But if you want to impose your will on the sandbox, you need to have more than the other groups you are attempting to dominate.
Yves Nat wrote:You also mistake what I'm doingGÇöI espouse no ideology and I'm not interested in any ideology "winning," I'm curious about what's possible, especially because the dangers of monotony are pretty strong.
I guess anything is possible, if you can convince enough people to join you. Trust is in short supply however in New Eden, and this may limit how far any experiment in ideology can get.
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Yves Nat
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2017.06.26 00:56:36 -
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Valdr Auduin wrote:What about a corp that has no in-game corporate structure? I.e. you all use some other method of over-arching command and control of your group's orientation and direction and otherwise each particular asset is controlled by the various individuals in the group and funds are transferred between each other to cover specific costs on an as-needed basis.
There must be some small corps that do this, hang together and share.
Are the mechanics such that a corp must have shares? Can you make a corps without shares?
If you have to have shares, then a corp like this would spread them around equally, right? Anyone who joined would then get shares from all the other members. That seems pretty cool.
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