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Cypherous
Liberty Rogues Aprilon Dynasty
294
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Posted - 2017.07.12 19:07:27 -
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I am sure all 3% of the playerbase still using it will mourn your passing
Personally i say its about bloody time, feel free to wish it luck in the afterlife guys and/or gals :)
https://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/preparing-for-the-future-retirement-of-captains-quarters-twitch-integration/ |
Shalua Rui
Rui Freelance Mining
30556
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Posted - 2017.07.12 19:12:39 -
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Well, it was just a matter of time, I guess... bye bye EVE's potential to one day be more than spaceships and spreadsheets. o7
"ginger forum goddess, space gypsy and stone nibbler extraordinaire!"
Shalua Rui - CEO and founder of Rui Freelance Mining (RFLM)
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Matthias Ancaladron
Wrath of Angels Solitaire.
406
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Posted - 2017.07.12 19:32:31 -
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1 step forward 6 steps back. Just like dust 514 being turned from an open world drop in drop out large scale planetary warfare running in real time side by side with space ships up in the sky fighting for air superiority into just another cod style lobby shooter of x versus x with no stakes.
Guess we have to just hope star citizen is successful and not a huge scam. Cause it looks like star citizen is the closest were ever going to get to what Eve could be. |
Old Pervert
Perkone Caldari State
145
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Posted - 2017.07.12 20:01:32 -
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I've never understood why people wanted to turn Eve into Habbo Hotel.
This is a spaceship game. Every time you expand the scope, you dilute it.
Good riddance to any player ready to leave over this. |
Baboo Yagu
29
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Posted - 2017.07.12 20:05:07 -
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Can't say I'm bothered. I never understood the purpose of the captain's quarters anyway. The only thing I ever used it for was taking the odd screenshot of my character stood in front of their ship. |
Shalua Rui
Rui Freelance Mining
30556
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Posted - 2017.07.12 20:41:18 -
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Baboo Yagu wrote:Can't say I'm bothered. I never understood the purpose of the captain's quarters anyway. The only thing I ever used it for was taking the odd screenshot of my character stood in front of their ship. It didn't have an actual purpose for years... but it did have potential, once. It was a different time back then, though... a time of big dreams and ambitions.
"ginger forum goddess, space gypsy and stone nibbler extraordinaire!"
Shalua Rui - CEO and founder of Rui Freelance Mining (RFLM)
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Ebony Texas
The Knights Armada Sev3rance
63
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Posted - 2017.07.12 21:10:54 -
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While captainGÇÖs quarters will be removed from New Eden with the August release, the ability to view your avatar in 3D will remain in place through the show info window on characters.
this is the biggest crock or crap I have ever seen.. you have players some not all that spent real money on their gear just to look at it in a freaking window.
CCP ARE YOU FREAKING KIDDING ME!...
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Shalua Rui
Rui Freelance Mining
30556
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Posted - 2017.07.12 21:16:16 -
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Ebony Texas wrote:While captainGÇÖs quarters will be removed from New Eden with the August release, the ability to view your avatar in 3D will remain in place through the show info window on characters.
this is the biggest crock or crap I have ever seen.. you have players some not all that spent real money on their gear just to look at it in a freaking window.
CCP ARE YOU FREAKING KIDDING ME!...
Cute, you still can be surprised by stuff like that...
"ginger forum goddess, space gypsy and stone nibbler extraordinaire!"
Shalua Rui - CEO and founder of Rui Freelance Mining (RFLM)
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Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
1701
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Posted - 2017.07.12 21:22:25 -
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The only thing I'll miss are the jokes about that door.
CCP could at least have trolled us and opened the door to the next corridor before removing CQ .
Remove standings and insurance.
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Ebony Texas
The Knights Armada Sev3rance
63
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Posted - 2017.07.12 21:25:48 -
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Shalua Rui wrote:Ebony Texas wrote:While captainGÇÖs quarters will be removed from New Eden with the August release, the ability to view your avatar in 3D will remain in place through the show info window on characters.
this is the biggest crock or crap I have ever seen.. you have players some not all that spent real money on their gear just to look at it in a freaking window.
CCP ARE YOU FREAKING KIDDING ME!...
Cute, you still can be surprised by stuff like that...
One of the first things that we want to investigate is to release a 64-bit EVE client to better utilize your available system memory when playing. Compiling a 64-bit client has been held back by the outdated middleware that was needed by captainGÇÖs quarters.
Holy sheep chit.. now they plan on killing all our PC's.
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Old Pervert
Perkone Caldari State
146
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Posted - 2017.07.12 22:00:49 -
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Ebony Texas wrote:While captainGÇÖs quarters will be removed from New Eden with the August release, the ability to view your avatar in 3D will remain in place through the show info window on characters.
this is the biggest crock or crap I have ever seen.. you have players some not all that spent real money on their gear just to look at it in a freaking window.
CCP ARE YOU FREAKING KIDDING ME!...
Which begs the question, why on Earth would you bother spending real money on something that had absolutely no benefit to you in-game?
You paid to look pretty, you can still look pretty in a window. The same window that everyone else already saw anyways... assuming they ever looked, which I can promise they did not. |
Ebony Texas
The Knights Armada Sev3rance
64
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Posted - 2017.07.12 22:16:43 -
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Old Pervert wrote:Ebony Texas wrote:While captainGÇÖs quarters will be removed from New Eden with the August release, the ability to view your avatar in 3D will remain in place through the show info window on characters.
this is the biggest crock or crap I have ever seen.. you have players some not all that spent real money on their gear just to look at it in a freaking window.
CCP ARE YOU FREAKING KIDDING ME!...
Which begs the question, why on Earth would you bother spending real money on something that had absolutely no benefit to you in-game? You paid to look pretty, you can still look pretty in a window. The same window that everyone else already saw anyways... assuming they ever looked, which I can promise they did not.
lol..players must have some eye candy and since ccp sold me this suit.. you betcha I want to walk around in it!.. look at these heels which cost me millions in isk.. MILLIONS! now I wont even be able to walk..
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Shalua Rui
Rui Freelance Mining
30557
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Posted - 2017.07.12 22:38:51 -
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Ebony Texas wrote:Old Pervert wrote:Ebony Texas wrote:While captainGÇÖs quarters will be removed from New Eden with the August release, the ability to view your avatar in 3D will remain in place through the show info window on characters.
this is the biggest crock or crap I have ever seen.. you have players some not all that spent real money on their gear just to look at it in a freaking window.
CCP ARE YOU FREAKING KIDDING ME!...
Which begs the question, why on Earth would you bother spending real money on something that had absolutely no benefit to you in-game? You paid to look pretty, you can still look pretty in a window. The same window that everyone else already saw anyways... assuming they ever looked, which I can promise they did not. lol..players must have some eye candy and since ccp sold me this suit.. you betcha I want to walk around in it!.. look at these heels which cost me millions in isk.. MILLIONS! now I wont even be able to walk.. That's the fundamental difference between two kinds of EVE players... and CCP desided years ago which ones they will focus on in the future. Spoler: It's not those that care about fashion...
"ginger forum goddess, space gypsy and stone nibbler extraordinaire!"
Shalua Rui - CEO and founder of Rui Freelance Mining (RFLM)
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Cypherous
Liberty Rogues Aprilon Dynasty
295
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Posted - 2017.07.12 23:00:05 -
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Matthias Ancaladron wrote:1 step forward 6 steps back. Just like dust 514 being turned from an open world drop in drop out large scale planetary warfare running in real time side by side with space ships up in the sky fighting for air superiority into just another cod style lobby shooter of x versus x with no stakes.
Guess we have to just hope star citizen is successful and not a huge scam. Cause it looks like star citizen is the closest were ever going to get to what Eve could be.
nah, EVE should never had had CQ and WiS even added in the first place, it never added anything of actual value to the game and never would have, it also means hours of manpower to update, fix, and bugcheck, all for not actually adding anything to the game at all, it was a terrible idea in the first place and i for one will not miss it, playing dressup never interested me in EVE, your pilot avatar is rarely seen by anyone other than you in anything more than a tiny 32x32 icon ingame :P |
Ebony Texas
The Knights Armada Sev3rance
64
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Posted - 2017.07.12 23:00:36 -
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Shalua Rui wrote:Ebony Texas wrote:Old Pervert wrote:Ebony Texas wrote:While captainGÇÖs quarters will be removed from New Eden with the August release, the ability to view your avatar in 3D will remain in place through the show info window on characters.
this is the biggest crock or crap I have ever seen.. you have players some not all that spent real money on their gear just to look at it in a freaking window.
CCP ARE YOU FREAKING KIDDING ME!...
Which begs the question, why on Earth would you bother spending real money on something that had absolutely no benefit to you in-game? You paid to look pretty, you can still look pretty in a window. The same window that everyone else already saw anyways... assuming they ever looked, which I can promise they did not. lol..players must have some eye candy and since ccp sold me this suit.. you betcha I want to walk around in it!.. look at these heels which cost me millions in isk.. MILLIONS! now I wont even be able to walk.. That's the fundamental difference between two kinds of EVE players... and CCP desided years ago which ones they will focus on in the future. Spoler: It's not those that care about fashion...
funny I thought the entire WiS agenda was to push microtransactions which in turn caused the community to rage much and begin the iconic Burn Jita..
still its going to feel really strange having a ships of a space navy with no hanger or bay to walk around in.. guess these nerds haven't watched any single sci-fi movie ever created since every last one of them had some type of CQ/Piliot Hanger involved when it came to spaceships.. SHAME SHAME SHAME on CCP..
I guess it called for too much work.. ccp cant have that, they need extra time to break the game even further.
im going to say goodbye to my sofa and multi-panels tonight.. R.I.P |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
11507
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Posted - 2017.07.12 23:14:35 -
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I suppose they'll drop the avatars next and go back to the cartoons. Not that I didn't look great back then as well.
Mr Epeen |
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
6900
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Posted - 2017.07.12 23:17:42 -
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Memories of Captain's Quarters (CQ), thanks to Niden:
http://pre04.deviantart.net/5c86/th/pre/f/2016/095/2/b/eve_online_dramiel___niden_by_nidensommer-d8tmpva.jpg |
Shalua Rui
Rui Freelance Mining
30557
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Posted - 2017.07.12 23:17:51 -
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Cypherous wrote:Matthias Ancaladron wrote:1 step forward 6 steps back. Just like dust 514 being turned from an open world drop in drop out large scale planetary warfare running in real time side by side with space ships up in the sky fighting for air superiority into just another cod style lobby shooter of x versus x with no stakes.
Guess we have to just hope star citizen is successful and not a huge scam. Cause it looks like star citizen is the closest were ever going to get to what Eve could be. nah, EVE should never had had CQ and WiS even added in the first place, it never added anything of actual value to the game and never would have, it also means hours of manpower to update, fix, and bugcheck, all for not actually adding anything to the game at all, it was a terrible idea in the first place and i for one will not miss it, playing dressup never interested me in EVE, your pilot avatar is rarely seen by anyone other than you in anything more than a tiny 32x32 icon ingame :P That's what it is - or was - today, but WiS could have worked if CPP did it right in the first place, but - of course - they had to be greedy and jump the gun by trying to sell people over priced accessories for a system that wasn't even there yet... EVE could be a very different game today - with much more meaningful and VARIED gameplay - if CCP hadn't mishandled WiS so thoroughly.
...but I guess that's all moot now anyways. When it comes down to it, CCP aren't the big visionaries and innovators the games media made them out to be for years. The only thing they ever did right was making a semi-solid economy simulator... no small feat, to be sure, but not nearly as impressive as it used to be.
I mean, let's be honest, these days, all the game is good for is a few shaking heads over articles listing how much the latest big war cost in real money...
"ginger forum goddess, space gypsy and stone nibbler extraordinaire!"
Shalua Rui - CEO and founder of Rui Freelance Mining (RFLM)
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Ebony Texas
The Knights Armada Sev3rance
64
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Posted - 2017.07.12 23:26:52 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:I suppose they'll drop the avatars next and go back to the cartoons. Not that I didn't look great back then as well. Mr Epeen
they might replace our profile pics with the awful looking DUST 514 profiles. |
Casandra Laur
KIRSTONE ALLIANCE
17
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Posted - 2017.07.12 23:30:21 -
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No need for all those fancy clothes that we can buy. No place to walk anymore.
It may not have been a cash cow for CCP anyway, just like skins.
Of course this now means that they will have more resources to put more ads in and around our stations from the big corps. I didn't look at the screen in my captain's quarters, and I don't look at the screens in my hanger either.
-Cassy |
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Djsaeu
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
70
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Posted - 2017.07.12 23:49:40 -
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Of course there was a downward trend of people using the captains quarters. The player base was told that it would be expanded, it never was. Now it is being taken out. Sounds about right.
Myself, I dropped to a Alpha account. Now I only show up from time to time just to see what the next thing to get a big "FU" painted on it somewhere. I really did get a laugh when I saw that I had unallocated skill points, really, it is a Alpha account, the skills are maxed out, why leave skill points that I can not place anywhere? As it goes, nice job CCP, you have done the expected, put something in, milked it dry and now pulled it leaving players with a load of things that people have no use for.
Well Done |
Shalua Rui
Rui Freelance Mining
30559
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Posted - 2017.07.12 23:53:01 -
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Djsaeu wrote:Of course there was a downward trend of people using the captains quarters. The player base was told that it would be expanded, it never was. Now it is being taken out. Sounds about right.
Myself, I dropped to a Alpha account. Now I only show up from time to time just to see what the next thing to get a big "FU" painted on it somewhere. I really did get a laugh when I saw that I had unallocated skill points, really, it is a Alpha account, the skills are maxed out, why leave skill points that I can not place anywhere? As it goes, nice job CCP, you have done the expected, put something in, milked it dry and now pulled it leaving players with a load of things that people have no use for.
Well Done Sums it up quite nicely... I doubt I'd ever resub either, especially as long as the forums are open for alpha accounts.
...never mind, shouldn't give CCP ideas.
"ginger forum goddess, space gypsy and stone nibbler extraordinaire!"
Shalua Rui - CEO and founder of Rui Freelance Mining (RFLM)
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Niagara Femme
Forcas armadas Circle-Of-Two
7
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Posted - 2017.07.13 00:15:31 -
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LOL...
Funny, CCP goes out of its way to lock down players or make us all mere slaves of war and ISK, and some just find it cool.
When they launched the quarters, everyone liked it, then the CCP changed their mind, saw that this could lead the game to another 'way' (maybe less wars and more ISK made IN GAME). They completely abandoned the quarters.
After YEARS, they do a 'search' asking what everyone thinks of something that has been completely abandoned.
Oh really? Is this really serious? My definitions of 'cynicism' has been updated successfully! |
Niagara Femme
Forcas armadas Circle-Of-Two
7
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Posted - 2017.07.13 00:18:33 -
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Old Pervert wrote:I've never understood why people wanted to turn Eve into Habbo Hotel.
This is a spaceship game. Every time you expand the scope, you dilute it.
Good riddance to any player ready to leave over this.
I cant understand why people need feeding other pockets with our loses... EVE is a FPS game? Seems like it. So, put down the merchandise about science, exploration, etc.
Dont be a cinical, CCP! |
Cypherous
Liberty Rogues Aprilon Dynasty
295
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Posted - 2017.07.13 00:26:27 -
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Shalua Rui wrote:Cypherous wrote:Matthias Ancaladron wrote:1 step forward 6 steps back. Just like dust 514 being turned from an open world drop in drop out large scale planetary warfare running in real time side by side with space ships up in the sky fighting for air superiority into just another cod style lobby shooter of x versus x with no stakes.
Guess we have to just hope star citizen is successful and not a huge scam. Cause it looks like star citizen is the closest were ever going to get to what Eve could be. nah, EVE should never had had CQ and WiS even added in the first place, it never added anything of actual value to the game and never would have, it also means hours of manpower to update, fix, and bugcheck, all for not actually adding anything to the game at all, it was a terrible idea in the first place and i for one will not miss it, playing dressup never interested me in EVE, your pilot avatar is rarely seen by anyone other than you in anything more than a tiny 32x32 icon ingame :P That's what it is - or was - today, but WiS could have worked if CPP did it right in the first place, but - of course - they had to be greedy and jump the gun by trying to sell people over priced accessories for a system that wasn't even there yet... EVE could be a very different game today - with much more meaningful and VARIED gameplay - if CCP hadn't mishandled WiS so thoroughly. ...but I guess that's all moot now anyways. When it comes down to it, CCP aren't the big visionaries and innovators the games media made them out to be for years. The only thing they ever did right was making a semi-solid economy simulator... no small feat, to be sure, but not nearly as impressive as it used to be. I mean, let's be honest, these days, all the game is good for is a few shaking heads over articles listing how much the latest big war cost in real money...
How would it be varied, anything you could opt to do while walking in a station could be done faster from the hangar screen, people do NOT want to spend ages walking from place to place to browse contracts or to fit ships or to buy things on the market etc, what varied gameplay do you think would exist from inside a station, they wouldn't have added anything that couldn't be done from the outside and they wouldn't have added anything that would have forced people to enter the station to defend against
WiS wouldn't have added anything meaningful apart from some stupid /dance emotes or the ability to show off those clothes you got, not that most of the players would ever see them because they wouldn't be wasting time walking around :P |
Cypherous
Liberty Rogues Aprilon Dynasty
295
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Posted - 2017.07.13 00:28:37 -
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Djsaeu wrote:Of course there was a downward trend of people using the captains quarters. The player base was told that it would be expanded, it never was. Now it is being taken out. Sounds about right.
Myself, I dropped to a Alpha account. Now I only show up from time to time just to see what the next thing to get a big "FU" painted on it somewhere. I really did get a laugh when I saw that I had unallocated skill points, really, it is a Alpha account, the skills are maxed out, why leave skill points that I can not place anywhere? As it goes, nice job CCP, you have done the expected, put something in, milked it dry and now pulled it leaving players with a load of things that people have no use for.
Well Done
SP was given for 2 reasons recently, one was the removal of 4 skills in the last patch, another was for a skill queue screwup, not their fault you can't do anything with them because you choose to remain an alpha, they still reimbursed them like they did for everyone |
Cypherous
Liberty Rogues Aprilon Dynasty
295
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Posted - 2017.07.13 00:33:11 -
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Niagara Femme wrote:LOL... Funny, CCP goes out of its way to lock down players or make us all mere slaves of war and ISK, and some just find it cool. When they launched the quarters, everyone liked it, then the CCP changed their mind, saw that this could lead the game to another 'way' (maybe less wars and more ISK made IN GAME). They completely abandoned the quarters. After YEARS, they do a 'search' asking what everyone thinks of something that has been completely abandoned. Oh really? Is this really serious? My definitions of 'cynicism' has been updated successfully!
Who is this everyone you speak of? i didn't like them or see a point in them, most of the people i knew at the time didn't like them or see a point in them, you massively overestimate how many people used the feature, the graph they have goes back 2 years showing that apart from a new player spike, there were at most about 12% of players even using the feature, and we have to wonder how many of that 12% even knew they could turn it off :P
The feature was never massively popular, it wouldn't have ever added anything meaningful to the actual game other than eye candy |
Shalua Rui
Rui Freelance Mining
30560
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Posted - 2017.07.13 00:40:13 -
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Cypherous wrote:Shalua Rui wrote:Cypherous wrote:Matthias Ancaladron wrote:1 step forward 6 steps back. Just like dust 514 being turned from an open world drop in drop out large scale planetary warfare running in real time side by side with space ships up in the sky fighting for air superiority into just another cod style lobby shooter of x versus x with no stakes.
Guess we have to just hope star citizen is successful and not a huge scam. Cause it looks like star citizen is the closest were ever going to get to what Eve could be. nah, EVE should never had had CQ and WiS even added in the first place, it never added anything of actual value to the game and never would have, it also means hours of manpower to update, fix, and bugcheck, all for not actually adding anything to the game at all, it was a terrible idea in the first place and i for one will not miss it, playing dressup never interested me in EVE, your pilot avatar is rarely seen by anyone other than you in anything more than a tiny 32x32 icon ingame :P That's what it is - or was - today, but WiS could have worked if CPP did it right in the first place, but - of course - they had to be greedy and jump the gun by trying to sell people over priced accessories for a system that wasn't even there yet... EVE could be a very different game today - with much more meaningful and VARIED gameplay - if CCP hadn't mishandled WiS so thoroughly. ...but I guess that's all moot now anyways. When it comes down to it, CCP aren't the big visionaries and innovators the games media made them out to be for years. The only thing they ever did right was making a semi-solid economy simulator... no small feat, to be sure, but not nearly as impressive as it used to be. I mean, let's be honest, these days, all the game is good for is a few shaking heads over articles listing how much the latest big war cost in real money... How would it be varied, anything you could opt to do while walking in a station could be done faster from the hangar screen, people do NOT want to spend ages walking from place to place to browse contracts or to fit ships or to buy things on the market etc, what varied gameplay do you think would exist from inside a station, they wouldn't have added anything that couldn't be done from the outside and they wouldn't have added anything that would have forced people to enter the station to defend against WiS wouldn't have added anything meaningful apart from some stupid /dance emotes or the ability to show off those clothes you got, not that most of the players would ever see them because they wouldn't be wasting time walking around :P True... if you have the imagination of post 2012 CCP, that is.
In fact, with a solid out-of-pod character framework, we could have had quite a few "meaningful" gameplay options today... from corporation HQ offices complete with meeting rooms and stuff, over gambling in bars to ship2ship FPS boarding action and even ground combat... heck, if they stayed on course and concentrated on EVE proper, they might have never needed to make DUST or Valkyrie into standalone games, but integrated them into their main universe from the start.
Alas, it's CCP, and they are so notorious for making bad design/development decisions by now, it's almost comical...
"ginger forum goddess, space gypsy and stone nibbler extraordinaire!"
Shalua Rui - CEO and founder of Rui Freelance Mining (RFLM)
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Niagara Femme
Forcas armadas Circle-Of-Two
7
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Posted - 2017.07.13 00:42:06 -
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Cypherous wrote:Niagara Femme wrote:LOL... Funny, CCP goes out of its way to lock down players or make us all mere slaves of war and ISK, and some just find it cool. When they launched the quarters, everyone liked it, then the CCP changed their mind, saw that this could lead the game to another 'way' (maybe less wars and more ISK made IN GAME). They completely abandoned the quarters. After YEARS, they do a 'search' asking what everyone thinks of something that has been completely abandoned. Oh really? Is this really serious? My definitions of 'cynicism' has been updated successfully! Who is this everyone you speak of? i didn't like them or see a point in them, most of the people i knew at the time didn't like them or see a point in them, you massively overestimate how many people used the feature, the graph they have goes back 2 years showing that apart from a new player spike, there were at most about 12% of players even using the feature, and we have to wonder how many of that 12% even knew they could turn it off :P The feature was never massively popular, it wouldn't have ever added anything meaningful to the actual game other than eye candy
I talk about CCP, of corse.
"The feature was never massively popular"
Obvious, people waiting more and for YEARS, not less. |
Mina Sebiestar
Minmatar Inner Space Conglomerate
1219
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Posted - 2017.07.13 00:53:38 -
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Matthias Ancaladron wrote:1 step forward 6 steps back.
Guess we have to just hope star citizen is successful and not a huge scam. Cause it looks like star citizen is the closest were ever going to get to what Eve could be.
Hope so my self i seen more game development stuff from them than from CCP in eve lifetime it doesn't look like a scam but one can never tell it was risk from day one,
Eve is getting smaller by the day ignoring player base poorly implementation favoritism i am more than ready to walk of this boat.
You choke behind a smile a fake behind the fear
Because >>I is too hard
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Casandra Laur
KIRSTONE ALLIANCE
17
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Posted - 2017.07.13 00:54:59 -
[31] - Quote
. . . and now why do we even need avatars?
All's we need is a face. No sense to have a body anymore, and don't need any clothes to put on it.
What was the point of walking around in the captain's quarters again? Why did we need to look at our ship in captain's quarters balcony?
They may be thinking of cutting back on designers/programmers, as funds are shrinking.
This is sad, and there may be more stuff being eliminated.
-Cassy |
Niagara Femme
Forcas armadas Circle-Of-Two
7
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Posted - 2017.07.13 01:01:42 -
[32] - Quote
Casandra Laur wrote: . . . and now why do we even need avatars?
All's we need is a face. No sense to have a body anymore, and don't need any clothes to put on it.
What was the point of walking around in the captain's quarters again? Why did we need to look at our ship in captain's quarters balcony?
They may be thinking of cutting back on designers/programmers, as funds are shrinking.
This is sad, and there may be more stuff being eliminated.
-Cassy
...why u need a face? Dont need a name too, or, ships...or nothing... in really, we dont need nothing.
And the game is off. |
Cypherous
Liberty Rogues Aprilon Dynasty
295
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Posted - 2017.07.13 01:02:48 -
[33] - Quote
Shalua Rui wrote:Cypherous wrote:Shalua Rui wrote:Cypherous wrote:Matthias Ancaladron wrote:1 step forward 6 steps back. Just like dust 514 being turned from an open world drop in drop out large scale planetary warfare running in real time side by side with space ships up in the sky fighting for air superiority into just another cod style lobby shooter of x versus x with no stakes.
Guess we have to just hope star citizen is successful and not a huge scam. Cause it looks like star citizen is the closest were ever going to get to what Eve could be. nah, EVE should never had had CQ and WiS even added in the first place, it never added anything of actual value to the game and never would have, it also means hours of manpower to update, fix, and bugcheck, all for not actually adding anything to the game at all, it was a terrible idea in the first place and i for one will not miss it, playing dressup never interested me in EVE, your pilot avatar is rarely seen by anyone other than you in anything more than a tiny 32x32 icon ingame :P That's what it is - or was - today, but WiS could have worked if CPP did it right in the first place, but - of course - they had to be greedy and jump the gun by trying to sell people over priced accessories for a system that wasn't even there yet... EVE could be a very different game today - with much more meaningful and VARIED gameplay - if CCP hadn't mishandled WiS so thoroughly. ...but I guess that's all moot now anyways. When it comes down to it, CCP aren't the big visionaries and innovators the games media made them out to be for years. The only thing they ever did right was making a semi-solid economy simulator... no small feat, to be sure, but not nearly as impressive as it used to be. I mean, let's be honest, these days, all the game is good for is a few shaking heads over articles listing how much the latest big war cost in real money... How would it be varied, anything you could opt to do while walking in a station could be done faster from the hangar screen, people do NOT want to spend ages walking from place to place to browse contracts or to fit ships or to buy things on the market etc, what varied gameplay do you think would exist from inside a station, they wouldn't have added anything that couldn't be done from the outside and they wouldn't have added anything that would have forced people to enter the station to defend against WiS wouldn't have added anything meaningful apart from some stupid /dance emotes or the ability to show off those clothes you got, not that most of the players would ever see them because they wouldn't be wasting time walking around :P True... if you have the imagination of post 2012 CCP, that is. In fact, with a solid out-of-pod character framework, we could have had quite a few "meaningful" gameplay options today... from corporation HQ offices complete with meeting rooms and stuff, over gambling in bars to ship2ship FPS boarding action and even ground combat... heck, if they stayed on course and concentrated on EVE proper, they might have never needed to make DUST or Valkyrie into standalone games, but integrated them into their main universe from the start. Alas, it's CCP, and they are so notorious for making bad design/development decisions by now, it's almost comical...
Why would meeting rooms for corps be meaningful? what benefit would they have over just using the chat window, seeing an avatar doesn't make a meeting any better at all and when you're talking about super massive corps you won't all fit :P
Gambling in bars isn't meaningful, its minigames at best, it doesn't actually add to the game as a whole, those same minigames would work via the hangar in a small window without the need for expensive 3D modelling tech
Ship to ship FPS stuff is what dust was for, it didn't work out that well, dust was canned and orbital bombardment was awkward to arrange and still entirely reliant on waiting for players to request them, why should i be forced to play an FPS to stop you from boarding my ships? you don't force these things on players so i would need a way to opt out and most people would because it would be a pointless addition
Adding those features in to EVE as a single game would mean locking the gameplay away from people on other platforms like consoles and VR mobile devices, not great for making money, hence why they made them different games with different platforms to appeal to the most people possible, the bad design and development choices were to even make WiS in the first place, it was literally built as tech they would have planned to use to make their world of darkness MMO, sure its pretty to look at but as far as EVE goes, it wouldn't have added anything meaningful |
Casandra Laur
KIRSTONE ALLIANCE
17
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Posted - 2017.07.13 01:09:05 -
[34] - Quote
Niagara Femme wrote:Casandra Laur wrote: . . . and now why do we even need avatars?
All's we need is a face. No sense to have a body anymore, and don't need any clothes to put on it.
What was the point of walking around in the captain's quarters again? Why did we need to look at our ship in captain's quarters balcony?
They may be thinking of cutting back on designers/programmers, as funds are shrinking.
This is sad, and there may be more stuff being eliminated.
-Cassy ...why u need a face? Dont need a name too, or, ships...or nothing... in really, we dont need nothing. And the game is off.
That's right! I don't need a face to play a game.
On another note, this is what was mentioned in the blog:
"If we were to commit to advancing walking in stations in the future, then the existing captainGÇÖs quarters and its underlying software would need to be removed from the client and rebuilt from scratch regardless." -CCP Falcon
-Cassy
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Shalua Rui
Rui Freelance Mining
30560
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Posted - 2017.07.13 01:10:06 -
[35] - Quote
Consoles and VR... yea, that worked so great!
...as I said, imagination, or the lack thereof.
Whatever, I stopped arguing for WiS years ago... EVE never became the game it could have been, and so it will flounder about in it's little niche until it - and CCP - inevitably, finally dies.
"ginger forum goddess, space gypsy and stone nibbler extraordinaire!"
Shalua Rui - CEO and founder of Rui Freelance Mining (RFLM)
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Niagara Femme
Forcas armadas Circle-Of-Two
7
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Posted - 2017.07.13 01:10:12 -
[36] - Quote
"Why would meeting rooms for corps be meaningful?"
U need the project discovery for what, real science? In fact, we do not need anything, EVE has been summed up, in the long run and its life, in traps for players to spend plex exchanging this for time of game and ISK. Anything that refers to the 'open world' is being, year after year, castrated, taken from the game.
Project Discovery is just an 'excuse', a 'bad arrangement' to justify (misleading) propaganda about EVE. EVE is not an exploration game, it's not an open world game. It is summarized in ganks, wars, fleets and 'point and destruct'.
I think there are people confusing the idea of EVE, initial of the game, with some 'little game' of 'shot' ...
(... but there are those who like this genre)
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Niagara Femme
Forcas armadas Circle-Of-Two
7
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Posted - 2017.07.13 01:16:57 -
[37] - Quote
#18 - 2017-07-12 13:54:33 UTC | | Edited by: Niagara Femme
"Your fear?
That the CCP ceases to 'invoice' on the condition that we become slaves?
Your fear?
That, with the player-to-player interaction, we can have another notion of 'the other' and, immersed in the game, can we make new bonds of friendship, alliances?
Your fear?
That we use our time not to destroy ships (give money to the CCP) but to do other things, such as decorating a room, a 'backyard', etc.?
Your fear?
May we expand our minds on politics and economics, relationships?
It makes absolutely no sense to have an 'avatar' if the idea is to limit the game (and it was not so in the past) to a 'point and destroy'. Eve may be more than that.
Today, we are slaves in a world (a litle roon) that has been sold as 'total freedom'. His freedom comes down to making ISK to power one of the top 5 MMOs in the gaming industry. CCP can give more to its players ...
I do not like living as a slave.
We have no freedom, just to get on a ship and shoot everything we see ..."
"#19 - 2017-07-12 14:25:03 UTC | I'll tell something
When I'm 'afk', for example, having lunch, dinner, studying, working, I go to the interior of a station. I always liked Eve's 'visual' online. It reminds me a lot about the 'movie from Ridley Scott's - Blade Runner (1980). Even today, after years and years, I look for something similar - something that makes me feel good and the EVE makes me feel good.
Remember when you had the choice to choose the song to listen to? Why did CCP take this away from us? It was another choice and, let's face it, the soundtrack of the game is fantastic.
Sometimes it seems that everything that gives life or can give life to the game, in what concerns 'human relations', is censored, castrated, day after day and that our function is, exclusively and exclusively, to kill some Others to feed the market.
Players deserve more than that. I deserve more. I like strategy, politics. Eve is not a 'shot' MMO. It is more than that. We meet real people, make friendships and that is what, in the end, will be left for us. So, why not 'meet' characters? "
This is a game and i like this game. |
Ebony Texas
The Knights Armada Sev3rance
69
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Posted - 2017.07.13 03:18:42 -
[38] - Quote
Farewell Captains Quarters,
"this is my personal apartment, if someone ever comes thru that door! i would turn this game off..why does that dude have the highest bounty?" - after my 1st login into Eve Online.
they cant give us ship interiors unless we stick a x-men visor on our heads,
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Raffael Ramirez
Exanimo Inc Badfellas Inc.
84
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Posted - 2017.07.13 05:43:51 -
[39] - Quote
So instead of adding things they take things away in a "release" and that is worthy of a devblog?
What happened to this game????
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Krima Sumyungi
Perkone Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2017.07.13 05:49:02 -
[40] - Quote
Ebony Texas wrote:
One of the first things that we want to investigate is to release a 64-bit EVE client to better utilize your available system memory when playing. Compiling a 64-bit client has been held back by the outdated middleware that was needed by captainGÇÖs quarters.
Holy sheep chit.. now they plan on killing all our PC's.
No, only the outdated PC's that should have been dumped in the trash 10 years ago.
Just remember to back up your hard drives, hide your boot.ini files, and keep a fire extinguisher handy for any errant CCP code that decides to overrule your graphics card driver and make your GPU burn up.
You know, the usual chit CCP already does. |
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Spc One
The Chodak Void Alliance
326
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Posted - 2017.07.13 05:53:23 -
[41] - Quote
So walking in stations is: NO
Also what's the point of apparel then ?
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Krima Sumyungi
Perkone Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2017.07.13 08:42:33 -
[42] - Quote
Spc One wrote:So walking in stations is: NOAlso what's the point of apparel then ?
Absolutely none. Sell any you don't want now before the bottom falls out. |
Agondray
Avenger Mercenaries VOID Intergalactic Forces
442
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Posted - 2017.07.13 08:53:43 -
[43] - Quote
Ebony Texas wrote:Shalua Rui wrote:Ebony Texas wrote:Old Pervert wrote:Ebony Texas wrote:While captainGÇÖs quarters will be removed from New Eden with the August release, the ability to view your avatar in 3D will remain in place through the show info window on characters.
this is the biggest crock or crap I have ever seen.. you have players some not all that spent real money on their gear just to look at it in a freaking window.
CCP ARE YOU FREAKING KIDDING ME!...
Which begs the question, why on Earth would you bother spending real money on something that had absolutely no benefit to you in-game? You paid to look pretty, you can still look pretty in a window. The same window that everyone else already saw anyways... assuming they ever looked, which I can promise they did not. lol..players must have some eye candy and since ccp sold me this suit.. you betcha I want to walk around in it!.. look at these heels which cost me millions in isk.. MILLIONS! now I wont even be able to walk.. That's the fundamental difference between two kinds of EVE players... and CCP desided years ago which ones they will focus on in the future. Spoler: It's not those that care about fashion... funny I thought the entire WiS agenda was to push microtransactions which in turn caused the community to rage much and begin the iconic Burn Jita.. still its going to feel really strange having a ships of a space navy with no hanger or bay to walk around in.. guess these nerds haven't watched any single sci-fi movie ever created since every last one of them had some type of CQ/Piliot Hanger involved when it came to spaceships.. SHAME SHAME SHAME on CCP.. I guess it called for too much work.. ccp cant have that, they need extra time to break the game even further. im going to say goodbye to my sofa and multi-panels tonight.. R.I.P
it wasn't even about micro transactions, it was the cost of those transactions. The monocle which is no longer sold cost somewhere about $50 usd, you don't see people having their seizures over other clothes, skins, plex and extractors do you?
"Sarcasm is the Recourse of a weak mind." -Dr. Smith
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Shalua Rui
Rui Freelance Mining
30567
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Posted - 2017.07.13 09:03:12 -
[44] - Quote
Krima Sumyungi wrote:Spc One wrote:So walking in stations is: NOAlso what's the point of apparel then ? Absolutely none. Sell any you don't want now before the bottom falls out. ...and also keep away from the New Eden Store from now on, at least when it comes to apparel.
"ginger forum goddess, space gypsy and stone nibbler extraordinaire!"
Shalua Rui - CEO and founder of Rui Freelance Mining (RFLM)
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Hir Miriel
Elves In Space
372
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Posted - 2017.07.13 10:22:55 -
[45] - Quote
Captain Quarter's was an incomplete start to diversifying the complexity of EVE. It could have been the base of a product like Instagram or Facebook, which people use to show pictures of stuff to others, and both of which seem somewhat popular. The Captain's Quarters could have been part of the players persona. Players could have created a man cave, or space cave, of their adventures, which they could share with others. But like many players have said there was not enough content able to interact with the Captain's Quarters, so all the links to killboards or rare cosmetic drops or photographic displays of galactic events, that could have been possible content, were not. All of this functionality was left to develop in other places, like Imgur, when really all online MMOs are social networks and should protect their ability to link players in differing ways.
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Thinking inside Schrodinger's sandbox.
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Tavin Aikisen
Phoenix Naval Operations Phoenix Naval Systems
449
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Posted - 2017.07.13 11:24:21 -
[46] - Quote
Dust 514, atmospheric flight at EVE Fanfest 2007, the EVA prototype, Walking in Stations demonstrations and prototypes dating all the way back to EON Magazine issue #4, that Legion thing?
You've had enough chances to really make this the an even greater sci-fi universe we could imagine...
Truth is, that dream was lost years ago when people high up turned creative decisions into business decisions. Confining an integrated FPS to a dying console. Turning Walking in Stations into to a double dipping cash grab. Has anyone heard from EVE Valkyrie lately, or that other VR game? Effectively dissecting the lore from the gameplay. And now putting ALREADY WORKING gameplay into the "too hard basket"...
So what's the plan now? We just going to keep re-modelling ships and re-writing current gameplay mechanics? Those features are great, but that's not going to take us into the future.
"Remember this. Trust your eyes, you will kill each other. Trust your veins, you can all go home."
-Cold Wind
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Kieron Veidah
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2017.07.13 11:31:17 -
[47] - Quote
That's great news. Taking the efforts back to where it belongs: developing a space-based game. I'm already excited to the perspective of new content to come after that. |
Don Pera Saissore
179
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Posted - 2017.07.13 13:23:55 -
[48] - Quote
Can we have the CQ loading screen as a static background plz |
Doris Laur
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
14
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Posted - 2017.07.13 14:16:25 -
[49] - Quote
Don Pera Saissore wrote:Can we have the CQ loading screen as a static background plz
They will not do that because of the big corps that pay to have their ads put on those two screens in the hanger. That's also why we didn't get the option of turning them off.
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Crash 888
TRINTEX
18
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Posted - 2017.07.13 14:33:51 -
[50] - Quote
Casandra Laur wrote: . . . and now why do we even need avatars?
All's we need is a face. No sense to have a body anymore, and don't need any clothes to put on it.
+1 to go back to old avatars instead of these shop mannequins.
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Cypherous
Liberty Rogues Aprilon Dynasty
297
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Posted - 2017.07.13 15:31:17 -
[51] - Quote
Krima Sumyungi wrote:Ebony Texas wrote:
One of the first things that we want to investigate is to release a 64-bit EVE client to better utilize your available system memory when playing. Compiling a 64-bit client has been held back by the outdated middleware that was needed by captainGÇÖs quarters.
Holy sheep chit.. now they plan on killing all our PC's.
No, only the outdated PC's that should have been dumped in the trash 10 years ago. Just remember to back up your hard drives, hide your boot.ini files, and keep a fire extinguisher handy for any errant CCP code that decides to overrule your graphics card driver and make your GPU burn up. You know, the usual chit CCP already does.
boot.ini isn't used in anything above XP, which was removed from the supported OS list iirc :P |
Krima Sumyungi
Perkone Caldari State
9
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Posted - 2017.07.13 18:55:45 -
[52] - Quote
Cypherous wrote:Krima Sumyungi wrote:Ebony Texas wrote:
One of the first things that we want to investigate is to release a 64-bit EVE client to better utilize your available system memory when playing. Compiling a 64-bit client has been held back by the outdated middleware that was needed by captainGÇÖs quarters.
Holy sheep chit.. now they plan on killing all our PC's.
No, only the outdated PC's that should have been dumped in the trash 10 years ago. Just remember to back up your hard drives, hide your boot.ini files, and keep a fire extinguisher handy for any errant CCP code that decides to overrule your graphics card driver and make your GPU burn up. You know, the usual chit CCP already does. boot.ini isn't used in anything above XP, which was removed from the supported OS list iirc :P
And you know as well as I do there's still plenty of knobs still using XP anyway. |
Revis Owen
The Conference Elite CODE.
543
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Posted - 2017.07.13 18:56:08 -
[53] - Quote
Good riddance! Keep killing all vestiges of Space Barbie with fire!
Agent of the New Order
http://www.minerbumping.com/p/the-code.html
If you do not have a current Mining Permit, please contact me for issuance.
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Alaric Faelen
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
510
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Posted - 2017.07.13 21:03:18 -
[54] - Quote
+1 Revis.
Eve didn't need it, and it didn't offer anything to an already system intensive game.
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Cypherous
Liberty Rogues Aprilon Dynasty
298
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Posted - 2017.07.13 23:19:09 -
[55] - Quote
Krima Sumyungi wrote:Cypherous wrote:Krima Sumyungi wrote:Ebony Texas wrote:
One of the first things that we want to investigate is to release a 64-bit EVE client to better utilize your available system memory when playing. Compiling a 64-bit client has been held back by the outdated middleware that was needed by captainGÇÖs quarters.
Holy sheep chit.. now they plan on killing all our PC's.
No, only the outdated PC's that should have been dumped in the trash 10 years ago. Just remember to back up your hard drives, hide your boot.ini files, and keep a fire extinguisher handy for any errant CCP code that decides to overrule your graphics card driver and make your GPU burn up. You know, the usual chit CCP already does. boot.ini isn't used in anything above XP, which was removed from the supported OS list iirc :P And you know as well as I do there's still plenty of knobs still using XP anyway.
Sure, but EVE doesn't launch on it so they aren't going to be here to read your message :P |
Cypherous
Liberty Rogues Aprilon Dynasty
298
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Posted - 2017.07.13 23:20:02 -
[56] - Quote
Yay double post |
Loki Feiht
Warcrows Shattered Foundations
214
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Posted - 2017.07.14 00:36:38 -
[57] - Quote
Of course when you bring a feature into the game that has no purpose it will never get used, a simple corp office iteration may have seen more use especially with some added fluff but hey, i find it hard to believe they'v had anyone working on this at all over the last few years because it doesn't look like anythings happened for a long, long time.
More NPC - Randomly Generated Modular Content-áthread
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=220858
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Alea
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
248
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Posted - 2017.07.14 16:06:25 -
[58] - Quote
Spc One wrote:So walking in stations is: NOAlso what's the point of apparel then ?
The same as ship skins, nobody sees them but the owner so is a complete waste of money, it's just a way for CCP to make more money off the kids, dress up space Barbie etc.
I never liked the idea of walking in station, back before CCP started to ruin the game all I wanted to do was blow things up, I'm a man for crying out loud I don't wanna dress up my avatar like some grade school girl I wanna go out and kill stuff.
Whomever is making the last few years decisions on what changes are to be implemented in this game, must hate Eve with all their being.
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Keno Skir
1721
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Posted - 2017.07.14 17:06:25 -
[59] - Quote
Alaric Faelen wrote:+1 Revis.
Eve didn't need it, and it didn't offer anything to an already system intensive game.
System intensive? I can run 4 clients simultaneously, couldn't do that with an old Farcry :/
EvE client has always been pretty chilled for me :)
Screw station walking barbies in space hello kitty online aspirant CQ wasteman :) Never should have been added anyway.
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Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation
2698
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Posted - 2017.07.14 19:15:57 -
[60] - Quote
So the final shoe drops. The CQ was a failed technology exercise. CCP basically created their own character focused engine. It was not scalable and ran poorly one average hardware. They built a dead end (that same bet on the internal engine choice they made killed the Vampire game too).
CCP claimed to never understand what some sort of ambulation could add to Eve. A single character Captain's "jail cell" did not add to the experience. If CCP had just used the same game engine they used for Dust it would have scaled and you could have had more than on character in your jail cell.
An older and every bit as fun space game Earth and Beyond launched with walking in stations. They even had a few stations with discos! And NPCs could be in stations and become the source of missions and could be vendors, The one use my Guild in that game found useful was we met as a group in stations regularly. It added to the game. I was always sad that CCP felt to take the feature anywhere it needed to be something dramatically more than that.
Honesty I believe they used the "no compelling game play for ambulation" excuse to cover up for a game engine experiment that failed. Even if they had that "compelling" WIS experience figured out they would have had to scrap the engine the CQ was based on, It was that engine that could never have supported a compelling experience.
So its sad to finally fill our CQs with poison gas but I agree the resources to maintain that clearly failed feature should go to more productive places. |
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Foreman Larry
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2017.07.15 04:12:18 -
[61] - Quote
I think the most amusing thing about this, to me, is that they are still selling boots and pants in the cash shop despite this announcement. |
Krima Sumyungi
Perkone Caldari State
9
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Posted - 2017.07.15 08:36:05 -
[62] - Quote
Issler Dainze wrote:So the final shoe drops. The CQ was a failed technology exercise. CCP basically created their own character focused engine. It was not scalable and ran poorly one average hardware. They built a dead end (that same bet on the internal engine choice they made killed the Vampire game too).
CCP claimed to never understand what some sort of ambulation could add to Eve. A single character Captain's "jail cell" did not add to the experience. If CCP had just used the same game engine they used for Dust it would have scaled and you could have had more than on character in your jail cell.
An older and every bit as fun space game Earth and Beyond launched with walking in stations. They even had a few stations with discos! And NPCs could be in stations and become the source of missions and could be vendors, The one use my Guild in that game found useful was we met as a group in stations regularly. It added to the game. I was always sad that CCP felt to take the feature anywhere it needed to be something dramatically more than that.
Honesty I believe they used the "no compelling game play for ambulation" excuse to cover up for a game engine experiment that failed. Even if they had that "compelling" WIS experience figured out they would have had to scrap the engine the CQ was based on, It was that engine that could never have supported a compelling experience.
So its sad to finally fill our CQs with poison gas but I agree the resources to maintain that clearly failed feature should go to more productive places.
All true, you only forgot to add one bit. Putting DUST on an antiquated console when your entire existing EvE playerbase, and thus most who would have been interested in DUST as a companion to EvE, was on PC. CQ's and WIS were fully dependent on EvE/DUST integration, as it was originally touted before whichever moron in charge decide "Put it on PS3!", for a reason to exist. Without it it just became as others call it: Barbie Dress-Up.
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Zorh
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2017.07.15 09:08:54 -
[63] - Quote
Shalua Rui wrote:Well, it was just a matter of time, I guess... bye bye EVE's potential to one day be more than spaceships and spreadsheets. o7 It should be more spaceships and less spreadsheets. |
Zorh
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2017.07.15 09:09:40 -
[64] - Quote
Foreman Larry wrote:I think the most amusing thing about this, to me, is that they are still selling boots and pants in the cash shop despite this announcement. Well you can always admire them in the little window while your ship is being blown up. |
Blade Darth
Room for Improvement Limited Expectations
280
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Posted - 2017.07.15 11:46:28 -
[65] - Quote
Where will I make videos of my female alt walking in a latex catsuit now?
Omen Navy Issue Tutorial
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Mikhem
Taxisk Unlimited
376
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Posted - 2017.07.15 12:56:40 -
[66] - Quote
RIP Captain Quarters. You will be missed but it is not yet dead. I opened Captain Quarters screenshot thread to new forums. Show how beautiful your Captain Quarters (TM) are. There is still time to take pictures of this beautiful environment.
https://meta.eveonline.com/t/captain-quarter-screenshots/10431
Mikhem
Link library to EVE music songs.
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Sari'Nhia KHEYT'LARRH
Leffe Industries and Co La Division Bleue
6
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Posted - 2017.07.15 17:50:50 -
[67] - Quote
I wonder what will become all the clothing I got. And actually I was waiting this promised "walk through station" capabilty. sincerely that could have given a bit more fun in interacting with other players and RPing things like trades... Isn't EVE online supposed to be a MMORPG, after all ???
I feel betrayed , somehow !!! |
Andre UKoppie
Average moon Silent Infinity
0
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Posted - 2017.07.15 23:12:33 -
[68] - Quote
No quarters means no vision anymore for the game or is the disappearance a nail in the coffin of the game?
That the quarters leave is fine. It has presently no function and is technically runs on outdated software, fine explanation for today, yes. But about 6 years ago during the Fanfest (and I visited many of those then) it WAS a big deal for CCP and the fans. And for the elected players, the Council. With big fanfare, walking in station was hailed. Yes, CCP was listening to the player base then, also.
None of this came to be. Perhaps choices are made by means of hype only. This Council says this, latter councils say this, and vision and mission go out the window.
So I am returning now for the second time to the game, and again I come to the same conclusion: EVE Online is old wine in new bottles with all those new updates. It's not a vision and inspiration of where to go with the game. Sure, there still is PVP but what about the player base that wants more ease and more immersement (it that the good word?) but I cant see that happening.
It is to much a sales pitch: I take away stations and give you other stations, sorry Citadels; I take away old mining opps and give you in return YOUR very own assured destruction of your gameplay, yes, its is for the players. And then, all those ship colours. Sure these are nice updates to get teenagers out of bed, but it can't hardly be called an improvement. No updates are not CCP's forte.... because there is no vision or attachment/immersement anymore.
Well it's a bid difficult to grasp in correct figures, but the total players base IS lesser than before. As a returnee for the second time, I can't escape feeling sad - the game is changing for the worst.
So, if you get the drift of my message above, then the disappearance of the captain's quarters is perhaps also a new nail in the coffin of EVE Online.
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Blade Darth
Room for Improvement Limited Expectations
282
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Posted - 2017.07.16 00:50:18 -
[69] - Quote
Possibru.
I really hope they will merge Project Nova (immersive walking lel)/ Valkyrie experience into eve. Atm it looks like they got same issues as SC- multiple separate games that take 20 years to devalop, instead of one big game.
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Lyrem Nevarc
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
0
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Posted - 2017.07.16 03:48:10 -
[70] - Quote
Any time I wasn't docked in citadel I was in captain's quarters view, guess that makes me part of that negligible 3%. I'll miss being able to appreciate the immensity of some of the ships from the perspective of our tiny characters; it was limited, but for what it was worth it made the game a bit more immersive. Here's hoping they pick it back up in the future and deliver something better than what they initially reneged on. |
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Jotunspor
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
38
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Posted - 2017.07.16 05:17:06 -
[71] - Quote
I wonder if they're actually going to make this "game" even more of a laughing stock. If they seriously plan on leaving the character creation system after getting rid of Captain's Quarters... I'll be very disappointed if CCP don't change their name to "Question Mark Productions".
As if it already didn't make enough sense why we've been WASDing around a little Captain's Quarters for nearly 8 years and no progress. The end is already coming. And i love spreading the logic bukkake. The competition is setting in, people's mentalities have already changed GREATLY just in the last couple of years.
But i guess we can just all keep Cup and Balling till the VERY END, BABY!
*Puts on sunglasses* |
OffBeaT
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
5
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Posted - 2017.07.16 07:38:35 -
[72] - Quote
To me it looks somewhat bad on Eve and I hope this is not a trend to come with more in the game. Who doesn't like seeing their guy walk around in a station.
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Major Xadi
The Graduates The Initiative.
96
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Posted - 2017.07.16 11:36:39 -
[73] - Quote
Revis Owen wrote:Good riddance! Keep killing all vestiges of Space Barbie with fire!
Says the man with the goggles and "outlaw" jacket
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Sutial Titanicus
Vali Robotics Inc.
1
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Posted - 2017.07.16 16:07:41 -
[74] - Quote
I will miss this feature dearly and it definatly doesent make me want to support CCP more. My main concern is that there was absolutely NO communication with the playerbase about this over the years. It was literally radio silent for what, 6 years? And then all of a sudden it is going to dissapear.
In CCP seagul's last video she was all abput transparancy and being open to conversations with the playerbase and this goes right against this. Hey guys were retiring this entire feature, good luck with it!
The meme eve is dying is real unfortunatly, for years and years the sky was the limit in eve and everything seemed to be possible. Now i feel like resources are being wasted on crappy CCP side projects and a skeleton crew remains that does rebalances etc. |
Gevlin
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
292
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Posted - 2017.07.16 17:48:23 -
[75] - Quote
I am a big fan of walking in stations. Sadly it was implemented cowboy style and the there was no expansion for 6 years.
I hope that CCP will eventually try to continue with Ambulation sadly it will be done from scratch. Though if their current planning scheme is an indicator it will be done efficiently.
I hope it works out Ambulations (WIS) in 2020!
Someday I will have the time to play. For now it is mining afk in High sec. In Cheap ships
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Captain Tardbar
Hentogaira Miners Alliance
1186
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Posted - 2017.07.17 08:10:41 -
[76] - Quote
Matthias Ancaladron wrote:1 step forward 6 steps back. Just like dust 514 being turned from an open world drop in drop out large scale planetary warfare running in real time side by side with space ships up in the sky fighting for air superiority into just another cod style lobby shooter of x versus x with no stakes.
Guess we have to just hope star citizen is successful and not a huge scam. Cause it looks like star citizen is the closest were ever going to get to what Eve could be.
Eh. SC 3.0 appears is going to be a thing at this point.
2.0 had walking in station, but 3.0 will have walking on planets.
Looking to talk on VOIP with other EVE players? Are you new and need help with EVE (welfare) or looking for advice? Looking for adversarial debate with angry people?
Captain Tardbar's Voice Discord Server
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Celise Katelo
State War Academy Caldari State
209
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Posted - 2017.07.17 15:42:15 -
[77] - Quote
Lyrem Nevarc wrote:Any time I wasn't docked in citadel I was in captain's quarters view, guess that makes me part of that negligible 3%. I'll miss being able to appreciate the immensity of some of the ships from the perspective of our tiny characters; it was limited, but for what it was worth it made the game a bit more immersive. Here's hoping they pick it back up in the future and deliver something better than what they initially reneged on.
I'm also part of the 3% ... Wish they would keep this feature in the game.
Take some screen shots & add them to this: Captain Quarter screenshots
EVEBoard ...Just over 60million skill points, each skill was chosen for a reason. I closed my eyes & clicked another skill to train... "BINGO...!!!" ... "This time i got something usefull"
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Ragnar STS
Minmatar Brotherhood Ushra'Khan
97
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Posted - 2017.07.17 17:46:52 -
[78] - Quote
+1 |
Ivan Stoner
Old American Syndicate Silent Infinity
22
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Posted - 2017.07.17 18:03:52 -
[79] - Quote
Its no wonder why such a small amount of players use the Captains Quaters.
- Not aviable on Citadels/Eng. Complex (if you have active CQ and where in a structure it always send you to the hangar in the outpost) - Not much usabillity (without walking up and down)
And annouced CCP over all the years, what they wanna do with them. Or how they want to expand them.
- Walking on Stations (for better sociallising) - Windows that you can look outside (and the citadel version is a joke) - Twitch/stream watching. - etc.
The removal shows that CCP has no ideas anymore how to develop eve further. And that you doesnt only see with the Quaters that you see in alot parts of the game. What get the players get instead? Things that they dont want (active moon mining). Mini event which are always the same. Floods of skins (you remind that you annouced that players can paint thier ships) and alot of more stuff.
CCP should invest less in overhyped tech and hire more dev which realy want to develop instead of doing nothing/only a bit. |
Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
515
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Posted - 2017.07.19 22:56:19 -
[80] - Quote
Cypherous wrote:Shalua Rui wrote:Cypherous wrote:Matthias Ancaladron wrote:1 step forward 6 steps back. Just like dust 514 being turned from an open world drop in drop out large scale planetary warfare running in real time side by side with space ships up in the sky fighting for air superiority into just another cod style lobby shooter of x versus x with no stakes.
Guess we have to just hope star citizen is successful and not a huge scam. Cause it looks like star citizen is the closest were ever going to get to what Eve could be. nah, EVE should never had had CQ and WiS even added in the first place, it never added anything of actual value to the game and never would have, it also means hours of manpower to update, fix, and bugcheck, all for not actually adding anything to the game at all, it was a terrible idea in the first place and i for one will not miss it, playing dressup never interested me in EVE, your pilot avatar is rarely seen by anyone other than you in anything more than a tiny 32x32 icon ingame :P That's what it is - or was - today, but WiS could have worked if CPP did it right in the first place, but - of course - they had to be greedy and jump the gun by trying to sell people over priced accessories for a system that wasn't even there yet... EVE could be a very different game today - with much more meaningful and VARIED gameplay - if CCP hadn't mishandled WiS so thoroughly. ...but I guess that's all moot now anyways. When it comes down to it, CCP aren't the big visionaries and innovators the games media made them out to be for years. The only thing they ever did right was making a semi-solid economy simulator... no small feat, to be sure, but not nearly as impressive as it used to be. I mean, let's be honest, these days, all the game is good for is a few shaking heads over articles listing how much the latest big war cost in real money... How would it be varied, anything you could opt to do while walking in a station could be done faster from the hangar screen, people do NOT want to spend ages walking from place to place to browse contracts or to fit ships or to buy things on the market etc, what varied gameplay do you think would exist from inside a station, they wouldn't have added anything that couldn't be done from the outside and they wouldn't have added anything that would have forced people to enter the station to defend against WiS wouldn't have added anything meaningful apart from some stupid /dance emotes or the ability to show off those clothes you got, not that most of the players would ever see them because they wouldn't be wasting time walking around :P
Black market deals. Smuggling. Third person gunplay. Mass-effect style gameplay. There was also the dynamic of being able to dock ships with enemy installations during PvE missions and infiltrate to achieve some objective.
The point wasn't just WiS, it was that CCP intended to let EVE basically be a hub universe for multiple types of games, all of which could interact with each other through WiS and that would increase the social base greatly as well as give you more things to do when you got bored of staring at a spreadsheet.
Then at one point during the summer of rage Hilmar had a midlife crisis, started nuking projects and firing employees. The projects that did go forward (ie dust) were a joke and lead to the firing of more employees.
So yes, it could have been big. Huge, even. The kind of game you've never seen before. The EVE you have today isn't a game about spaceships, it's a game that was left 1/4th finished and all you have is spaceships.
Sad to see the final nail in the coffin on this one. I expect the holdovers on the dust forums will probably get news eventually that project Nova is getting the axe as well. Dare to be bold... pfft, what a joke. |
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Odyssey Eve
Aquilia Cohors Praetoria Curatores Veritatis Alliance
2
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Posted - 2017.07.20 08:25:33 -
[81] - Quote
I'm angry .... #shameCCP ... Eve must be diverse |
Clockwork Bee
Mercurial Purpose
0
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Posted - 2017.07.20 18:34:02 -
[82] - Quote
Quote:After reviewing the usage statistics for captainGÇÖs quarters, we can see that the development time involved in maintaining the current state of the feature is significantly disproportionate to the number of pilots using the feature.
No **** Sherlock.
While I understand and agree with the removal of the feature due to the dev cost of maintaining it while there is no short term plan to expand it any further, it looks very very silly argument that usage of statistics. It's a bloody room where you can only walk around and use the same stuff you can use with the HUD buttons. I don't get the point. It's totally unnecessary unless they are alsto trying to prove people are not interested in that, in which case, not only the usage of those statistics is silly, but it's also poor misleading. |
Demica Diaz
SE-1
420
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Posted - 2017.07.21 07:21:03 -
[83] - Quote
Nice logic behind removing of CQ. Sad to see it go and not expaned upon WIS idea. |
Shallanna Yassavi
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
560
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Posted - 2017.07.21 08:08:50 -
[84] - Quote
Indie game design philosophy: do one thing, do it well. Maybe two.
A unified universe where you can walk around stations and do complicated things, and then jump in a ship to do other things is not a project which follows this philosophy. It's just asking to be a massive AAA-style broken mess and/or just have a lot of neglected parts because, with that many things to work on, it's easy for management to forget about some of them entirely.
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Austin Blythe
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
31
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Posted - 2017.07.21 09:59:15 -
[85] - Quote
Hi guys. It turns out that something we implemented poorly isn't very popular. So instead of improving it we're just going to remove it completely. LOL! Btw guys Omega is 15% off for a few days pls gib moneh ty. |
Sylva StarScraper
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2017.07.21 12:10:55 -
[86] - Quote
Oh, I didn't know you can switch to hangar view! Great article |
Kaivarian Coste
Placid Peace Corps
148
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Posted - 2017.07.22 12:09:07 -
[87] - Quote
Ebony Texas wrote:
funny I thought the entire WiS agenda was to push microtransactions which in turn caused the community to rage much and begin the iconic Burn Jita..
Everyone supported WiS until the "gold ammo" memo was leaked. |
Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
517
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Posted - 2017.07.23 20:17:13 -
[88] - Quote
Shallanna Yassavi wrote:Indie game design philosophy: do one thing, do it well. Maybe two.
A unified universe where you can walk around stations and do complicated things, and then jump in a ship to do other things is not a project which follows this philosophy. It's just asking to be a massive AAA-style broken mess and/or just have a lot of neglected parts because, with that many things to work on, it's easy for management to forget about some of them entirely.
Simply saying it can't be done doesn't make it reality. For a lot of people, we backed EVE early on because it looked like it would be the first MMO that actually pulled it off. It was CCP's stated mission to do this and they had working builds of a lot of these concepts.
I doubt anyone could have foreseen just how badly upper management would handle their company and its projects, though. So it's a moot point now. The vision is gone and most of the people behind that initial vision threw in the towel a long time ago. They are likely more concerned about retirement at this phase of their life, rather than creation.
I don't even watch the fanfest stream anymore. It's been smoke and mirrors for years and it's just one Ted Talk after another with someone pacing back and fourth doing their best to be charismatic while talking about crap that will never happen to an annually shrinking audience.
If CCP is embodied by any particular sin it is this -- A lack of commitment. They do not know how to see anything through to its end, and they never will. |
OId SouI
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2017.07.24 13:39:15 -
[89] - Quote
Can I get the option back to have my hanger just be a black screen? |
TEMPO Secheh
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
6
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Posted - 2017.07.24 22:19:07 -
[90] - Quote
Cypherous wrote:Matthias Ancaladron wrote:1 step forward 6 steps back. Just like dust 514 being turned from an open world drop in drop out large scale planetary warfare running in real time side by side with space ships up in the sky fighting for air superiority into just another cod style lobby shooter of x versus x with no stakes.
Guess we have to just hope star citizen is successful and not a huge scam. Cause it looks like star citizen is the closest were ever going to get to what Eve could be. nah, EVE should never had had CQ and WiS even added in the first place, it never added anything of actual value to the game and never would have, it also means hours of manpower to update, fix, and bugcheck, all for not actually adding anything to the game at all, it was a terrible idea in the first place and i for one will not miss it, playing dressup never interested me in EVE, your pilot avatar is rarely seen by anyone other than you in anything more than a tiny 32x32 icon ingame :P
I guess that we will see how this new focus turns out. |
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Mikhem
Taxisk Unlimited
378
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Posted - 2017.07.30 11:55:11 -
[91] - Quote
I have noticed that Captain Quarters are every now and then randomly disabled and ship hangar is loaded instead. If you want to keep Captain Quarters active you need to reactivate it again after it has been automatically disabled. This automatic disable mechanism for Captain Quarters seems to be random event happening every now and then.
Mikhem
Link library to EVE music songs.
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Sutial Titanicus
Vali Robotics Inc.
5
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Posted - 2017.07.30 15:37:15 -
[92] - Quote
Mikhem wrote:I have noticed that Captain Quarters are every now and then randomly disabled and ship hangar is loaded instead. If you want to keep Captain Quarters active you need to reactivate it again after it has been automatically disabled. This automatic disable mechanism for Captain Quarters seems to be random event happening every now and then.
What? Are you talking about the test server?
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Intar Medris
Reality Dysfunction Inc.
255
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Posted - 2017.07.31 04:29:35 -
[93] - Quote
You can have the CQ, but in return I want an actual Bridge. Not some lousy first person camera with no model what so ever.
I try to be nice and mind my business just shooting lasers at rocks. There is just way too many asshats in New Eden for that to happen.
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Rina Asanari
State War Academy Caldari State
43
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Posted - 2017.07.31 04:29:51 -
[94] - Quote
Well, worse than I predicted back then. When CQ came out, people were anxiously waiting for WiS, but back then I said as much as "wait for it" has to be translated to "don't ask before 2016" - and that was 2011 or so.
Without WiS it was easy to see that CQ would be a stillborn. It doesn't add any new gameplay but only spruces up on graphics, for oneself. And with the sluggishness of innovation it was easy to see that WiS would not come quick enough before CQ loses appeal.
I think those people who actually invested in apparel for anything below the chest will regret it now. |
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
63017
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Posted - 2017.07.31 06:13:48 -
[95] - Quote
What I find hilarious is the fact that all Anti-WiS fanatics feel compelled and make it a point to spout their rhetoric in Pro-WiS threads. Obviously they feel threatened by it for some obtuse reason. Since Captains Quarters is only activated by player choice, there's no reason for Anti-WiS players to constantly keep posting their revolt about it.
Now I agree the Captains Quarters doesn't have any actual tangible game content to engage with, however it does provide a great Sci-Fi backdrop for taking character screenshots which can be used in a variety of ways, such as opening lead-in for Eve blogs, creating computer screensavers, desktop wallpapers, posters, calendars, etc.
Captains Quarters had a lot of potential to be a staging point for bringing even more content to the game, it's a shame all that work is now going to be wasted.
DMC
'The Plan' | California Eve Players | Proposal - The Endless Battle
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Rina Asanari
State War Academy Caldari State
43
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Posted - 2017.07.31 07:41:00 -
[96] - Quote
As far as I read it, they want to replace it with some sort of "photo booth". Might be not the exact words, but that's how I see it.
I imagine it to be something like Poser or Daz3D (which would be adequate replacements if you are interested in character shots - and the last one is for free, AFAIK), as in, quite the same as you have it with the portrait shots but maybe with full body shots, and the option for "green background" somewhere in the settings does suggest something like it.
If it turns out that way, precious little in usability is lost and by their words, lots of legacy code hindering further development.
Though, my bets would be that CQ will be scrapped without any replacement in sight.
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Kunming
Outcasts
87
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Posted - 2017.07.31 15:56:15 -
[97] - Quote
Well I hope we can still see a 3D view of out portray wih our fancy cloths... |
Bjorn Tyrson
EVE University Ivy League
752
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Posted - 2017.07.31 17:32:31 -
[98] - Quote
Intar Medris wrote:You can have the CQ, but in return I want an actual Bridge. Not some lousy first person camera with no model what so ever.
A bridge on a capsuleer ship would be redundant. A first person view from the perspective of the pilot would just be the inside of a dark, goo filled pod. Even if there was lights it would just show a murky view of a metal wall.
But if you think staring at a grey wall would help with your immersion levels. Then grab a glass, fill it with gelatine of your preferred flavor and stare at a wall through it while you play. It will simulate pretty accurately the first person view from your "bridge" |
Rina Asanari
State War Academy Caldari State
44
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Posted - 2017.08.01 03:44:01 -
[99] - Quote
Bjorn Tyrson wrote:Intar Medris wrote:You can have the CQ, but in return I want an actual Bridge. Not some lousy first person camera with no model what so ever. A bridge on a capsuleer ship would be redundant. A first person view from the perspective of the pilot would just be the inside of a dark, goo filled pod. Even if there was lights it would just show a murky view of a metal wall. But if you think staring at a grey wall would help with your immersion levels. Then grab a glass, fill it with gelatine of your preferred flavor and stare at a wall through it while you play. It will simulate pretty accurately the first person view from your "bridge"
I think the intention was to have a free first person view of the naked body floating in the gunk, amirite? |
Mina Sebiestar
Minmatar Inner Space Conglomerate
1230
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Posted - 2017.08.01 07:19:03 -
[100] - Quote
Rina Asanari wrote:Bjorn Tyrson wrote:Intar Medris wrote:You can have the CQ, but in return I want an actual Bridge. Not some lousy first person camera with no model what so ever. A bridge on a capsuleer ship would be redundant. A first person view from the perspective of the pilot would just be the inside of a dark, goo filled pod. Even if there was lights it would just show a murky view of a metal wall. But if you think staring at a grey wall would help with your immersion levels. Then grab a glass, fill it with gelatine of your preferred flavor and stare at a wall through it while you play. It will simulate pretty accurately the first person view from your "bridge" I think the intention was to have a free first person view of the naked body floating in the gunk, amirite? Actually, lore says there is actually something to look at from the inside, video feeds from outside the ship are said not to be fed directly to the brain but projected on the inside of the pod... but I digress.
One psychopath is in advanced sensory deprivation chamber of jove origin other ppl on board are not, including bridge crew there is no reason for one not to exist after all ships are made for all users not just pod pilots.
You choke behind a smile a fake behind the fear
Because >>I is too hard
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