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LUKEC
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.05.21 20:30:00 -
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Edited by: LUKEC on 21/05/2007 20:28:08
Originally by: Agnst
Good points and I've been encountering these guys everywhere too: venal, fountain(they have a resident status here though), south, north etc etc etc... and it looks like CCP is not going to do anything about them, because they also do pay teh monthly fee.....
And BOS is any better?
You can't blame them to avoid getting ganked. 99% pvp isn't exacly massaging f1-f8...
However I do agree, whole scrambling/scouting/logoffski/ss mechanics need to be changed. And while at it, also "grief"cloaking should become a bit more expensive imo. -------- I tanked D2 capital fleet and all I got was truncated Erebus mail.
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Daenethx
Gallente Fallen Angel's Xelas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.21 21:20:00 -
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Originally by: Agnst Edited by: Agnst on 21/05/2007 20:09:28
Originally by: Daenethx Edited by: Daenethx on 21/05/2007 19:07:34 CCP really need to make rats cause a log off timer when logged outside of a POS. Also they really need to restrict cloaks specialists ships only. That or make any non specialist ship packing a cloak unable to lock people.
On topic, gl always good to see moochers die.
You do realise your post is contradictory?
I mean you are now proposing something that will just end some of your alliance mates real life...... :hint: doomsday corp :hint:
I don't believe anybody should exploit cloaks or logoffski. Even if they are people I don't talk to in the same alliance as me.
So before making wild accusations, understand that I believe this is wrong whoever conducts it.
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Plutoinum
German Cyberdome Corp
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Posted - 2007.05.22 00:04:00 -
[33]
If you are in the area, kill T'ang too. Also farmers ! 
But they actually fight. Pwned my 1st nanophoon with 4 ratting ravens some weeks ago. ( I started another assault on one of their ravens, when I was already in armor. Thought it should be no problem, if I manage to keep my mwd running... but it didn't keep running and then a stream of torps hit me badly. )
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PHPR Freighter
Minmatar PTS Industries United Corporations Against Macros
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Posted - 2007.05.22 01:36:00 -
[34]
well. if it is in 0.0... Send me a message that you have us blue. that is the only way that we will get into 0.0 at all.
we prefer not to get blobbed when we have a 5 man gang or so out there.
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Adam Weishaupt
Minmatar Pyrrhus Sicarii Aftermath Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.22 01:52:00 -
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I understand people not liking farmers, but you're attacking an apathetic and somewhat invulnerable target. So you blow up a Raven here and there - they will be right back in a new system within a few hours, insulting you in Mandarin. I speak Mandarin; the insults aren't even good. They're probably kids. They aren't macroing (if you have good proof or evidence of that, you don't need to wardec them), so they aren't doing anything PROVABLY anti-EULA.
Besides, even if they are selling ISK, they're just meeting a voracious demand, and have displayed intelligence by selling one of the most valuable game currencies. If you're NBSI and run into them, hey, free kill, but a concerted effort to wipe them out? Focus on plexes, that's the only spot you're actually going to be able to lock down and control. Plus, you'll profit. Most of those Ravens are horribly set up.
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atrophocy
SNM Airlines ASGARDIAN EMPIRE
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Posted - 2007.05.22 01:55:00 -
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yea. T'ang, Beatlrice and Hikan are all heavy ratters present in the wicked creek/immensia/detorid region. i couldnt kill them previously as they were in KOS so blue, but it would seem recently that KOS have kicked alot of these corps, however that makes them no easier to kill. i've wasted alot of time trying to catch these guys, but as Kazimidori said, they are masters at the log off/cloaking ss. I dont think they macro though, just run several accounts. they do definately respond when necessary.
last week i set up a tower in a system where i guy ratted 24/7. when i first turned up he logged off, logged in every 5 minutes and immediately logged off. after a few hours he asked if i was there to kill him. i said it was my new home and i'd be there permanently. after a few days of logging in every 5 minutes the cntrl Q'ing again he found a new system. 
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Plutoinum
German Cyberdome Corp
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Posted - 2007.05.22 02:34:00 -
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Edited by: Plutoinum on 22/05/2007 02:33:25
Originally by: Adam Weishaupt I understand people not liking farmers, but you're attacking an apathetic and somewhat invulnerable target. So you blow up a Raven here and there - they will be right back in a new system within a few hours, insulting you in Mandarin. I speak Mandarin; the insults aren't even good. They're probably kids.
I had once a funny conversation with one Beatlrice after killing his hauler full of torps. He said something that he'll take revenge in 10 years. I asked him, if he thinks that we'll both still be playing then, but he said it's just a chinese proverb. Anyway, several weeks later we got an application of an ex Beatlrice that contained only a few words: 'I need join corp, thanks---'
Made me giggle, we had no relationship to Beatlrice, so I thought it's him wanting to take his revenge on me with another char, but guess I was wrong. Now he is in CRICE corp. Looks like he really needed a new home. 
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Lithalnas
Amarr Hadean Drive Yards Archaean Cooperative
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Posted - 2007.05.22 02:52:00 -
[38]
try out the drone regions, every dead end drone system has one it in, problem is that they cloak upon you jumpin in the system. ------------- Hadean Drive Yards The EvE inflation, 80 Macro miners, 1.5b isk/day |

VinceNoir
Amarr Pyrrhus Sicarii Aftermath Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.22 03:02:00 -
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Originally by: Adam Weishaupt I understand people not liking farmers, but you're attacking an apathetic and somewhat invulnerable target. So you blow up a Raven here and there - they will be right back in a new system within a few hours, insulting you in Mandarin. I speak Mandarin; the insults aren't even good. They're probably kids. They aren't macroing (if you have good proof or evidence of that, you don't need to wardec them), so they aren't doing anything PROVABLY anti-EULA.
Besides, even if they are selling ISK, they're just meeting a voracious demand, and have displayed intelligence by selling one of the most valuable game currencies. If you're NBSI and run into them, hey, free kill, but a concerted effort to wipe them out? Focus on plexes, that's the only spot you're actually going to be able to lock down and control. Plus, you'll profit. Most of those Ravens are horribly set up.
The truth is, Adam recently moved to china and his now the fearsome and merciless leader of an ISK farming sweatshop. He will not tolerate your murderous attempts on his 'employees'.

Originally by: "Shanda Captison" Vince, you can't even spell ECM m8
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Vesel4ak
OEG Red Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.22 03:58:00 -
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I suppose Beatlrice is chinese e-bayers corporation. Their ravens (also members of NPC-corps) and support indies infest all regions.
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PHPR Freighter
Minmatar PTS Industries United Corporations Against Macros
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Posted - 2007.05.22 12:58:00 -
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well.. we hunting last night and I got in 1 kill (with an alt). We got Food God (Yes thats his name) in Nalu. He stores his clone in Kisogo.
He was in his raven and we got 3/6 Arby sieges, T2 Invuln, T2 BCS, with the other 3/6 arbies destroyed, T2 Kin hardener, T2 BCS and T2 XL Shield Booster...
KB Prices aren't updated yet, so I will need to do that this morning or tonight... and KB says we did over 140 mil damage. Obviously more since the KB puts arby sieges at 25k or so...
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Joshua Foiritain
Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.05.22 13:48:00 -
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Edited by: Joshua Foiritain on 22/05/2007 13:46:32
Originally by: Agnst fountain(they have a resident status here though)
Fortunately this means they're not quite as quick when it comes to hiding if a "friendly" pops into local.  -----
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Gloomrake Ono
Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.05.22 13:57:00 -
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Other corperations who isk farm in a region near you -
Kalike's Knight's regiment. Breed of Malakka. sword of shadow. u e s. Blood Crossing.
If you are in these corp's and want to tell me otherwise, go for it.
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PHPR Freighter
Minmatar PTS Industries United Corporations Against Macros
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Posted - 2007.05.22 14:09:00 -
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Hm.. maybe someone knows of who owns GW?? I have been trying to find out and the closest lead I have is from someone in Valaionce (sorry if I spelled the name wrong)... If anyone can Eve-Mail me a definitive list on who resides in GW let me know...
I wonder if BoB Will let us macro hunt around Fountain... hmmm....
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Gloomrake Ono
Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.05.22 14:17:00 -
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Great Wildlands is a npc region, no-one 'owns' it.
Contact a BoB diplomat for standings discussion.
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Frozen Light
Art of War Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.05.22 14:35:00 -
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GW is not owned by anyone, but we used to live there (CoW & RIOT) and well it was under out control :) Now we have moved away to seek more pewpew since GW was way too quiet. Maybe there is some corps/alliances but no major power present there at this time.
Originally by: Pepperami Syndicate, Great Wildlands, Geminate.. We're actually working round the map so we can introduce our new slogan "Crap Region, we'll take it".
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PHPR Freighter
Minmatar PTS Industries United Corporations Against Macros
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Posted - 2007.05.22 14:43:00 -
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yeah, the diplomat I contacted said there was alot of little corps and alliances there. I will continue to get a hold of the corps that I am told that resides there.
I was also told that C0W sends strike forces and small roving gangs there so Vala has them red... that is the part that concerns me...
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Frozen Light
Art of War Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.05.22 15:46:00 -
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Errrrr ... We lived in GW, basicly owned GW. I dont know what are you talking about Vala. And we do not raid it anymore, we got new place to pewpew.
Originally by: Pepperami Syndicate, Great Wildlands, Geminate.. We're actually working round the map so we can introduce our new slogan "Crap Region, we'll take it".
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PHPR Freighter
Minmatar PTS Industries United Corporations Against Macros
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Posted - 2007.05.22 16:20:00 -
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Edited by: PHPR Freighter on 22/05/2007 16:18:36 hmm... maybe I need to double check my info :/...
I think I know where that is.... Vale of the Silent... It makes it very hard for us to regain sec status after a suicide run I have seen alot of C0W gangs running up there in the intel channel...
oh yeah... We hit them so bad, that 3 more people left their corps... looks like I got me some probing to do I will also make sure to bring my drake along to take down the raven 
and slightly off topic... Forums are fun as hell to read at school :P 
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Ediz Daxx
FinFleet
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Posted - 2007.05.22 23:51:00 -
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3 ex beatlrice ravens spotted in 2X7Z-L in Great Wildlands. Now members of Fountain alliance and Nihil Nation [NNN]
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ollobrains
Drunken Ratbags Inc New Eve Order
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Posted - 2007.05.23 01:09:00 -
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and their sister corp gallente dark nebula devision ( they were in xelas for a period) moved to aftermath i believe, their current status is unknown not all members of that corp are ISK farmers but info has it that at leats 80% are in fact ( was in xelas for a period and GDNB were kicked due to having a lot of farmers and not assisting with PVP)
So these guys are mostly bob pets floating around 0.0 fountain but they are farmers no doubt
U will find some running level 4s in aunia so feel free to declare them as well after they get kciked out of the next alliance
All posts made by myself represent my personal opinion only - they do not represent the rest of the privateer alliacne unless they decide to agree with what im saying
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PHPR Freighter
Minmatar PTS Industries United Corporations Against Macros
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Posted - 2007.05.23 04:26:00 -
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Can you guys give me names ingame if you see me on? I am logging in right now.
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MongWen
Farmer Killers United Corporations Against Macros
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Posted - 2007.05.24 01:56:00 -
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Sadly we havent gotten any more kills (Yet), they have been semi offline sice we deced them.
on a side note the dec will be running until we run out of isk. -------------------- Opinions are my opinions. They do not reflect views held by my corp or alliance. |

Tomas Ysidro
Caldari Contraband Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.05.24 02:41:00 -
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We've been nailing those ratters around Branch and Venal ever since we moved past Deklein. Slippery little bastards to catch.
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ignisgunner
Minmatar The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.05.24 04:10:00 -
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Originally by: Fabrique Nationale Edited by: Fabrique Nationale on 21/05/2007 15:54:11 Beatlrice are indeed ISK^H^H^H^H^H^ ... uh, people who rat non-stop and do nothing else. They've had a lot of their characters leave the corp now. They were trying to get into any alliance that would give them blue standings. I had a lengthy discussion with a leader from them, as he mistakenly thought I could somehow give him access to regions of 0.0.
Basically, they have 40 players/employees that are logged in from 8am to 7pm China time. They run between 100 and 120 accounts. They fly Ravens, they fit a cloak and at least 1 WCS, usually more. They sit in just about every low traffic 0.0 system you can locate. Most are in NPC corps, many you'll see where formerly in Beatlrice. They cloak as soon as you enter a system, and minimize that client and move to the next one.
The most interesting thing I learned is that they now own a capital ship. They might be using haulers now to collect loot and bring it to the carrier for evac. Good luck hunting them, as they are very quick on the SS / Warp whenever anyone enters the system.
Also, if you stay in a system for a while forcing them to remain cloaked, they will eventually begin hurling insults to you in Mandarin.
ummmmmm......your face? Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed dimensions of 400x120 pixels and filesize of 24000 bytes -Kreul Intentions (mods@ccpgames.com)
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Adam Weishaupt
Minmatar Pyrrhus Sicarii Aftermath Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.24 05:14:00 -
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Originally by: VinceNoir
Originally by: Adam Weishaupt I understand people not liking farmers, but you're attacking an apathetic and somewhat invulnerable target. So you blow up a Raven here and there - they will be right back in a new system within a few hours, insulting you in Mandarin. I speak Mandarin; the insults aren't even good. They're probably kids. They aren't macroing (if you have good proof or evidence of that, you don't need to wardec them), so they aren't doing anything PROVABLY anti-EULA.
Besides, even if they are selling ISK, they're just meeting a voracious demand, and have displayed intelligence by selling one of the most valuable game currencies. If you're NBSI and run into them, hey, free kill, but a concerted effort to wipe them out? Focus on plexes, that's the only spot you're actually going to be able to lock down and control. Plus, you'll profit. Most of those Ravens are horribly set up.
The truth is, Adam recently moved to china and his now the fearsome and merciless leader of an ISK farming sweatshop. He will not tolerate your murderous attempts on his 'employees'.
Well, yeah. I am, in fact, in charge of the entire KOS alliance now. Our in-game profits have increased to an average of 34m/hour/pilot, and once I teach these middle schoolers to fit the right hardeners and damage mods, we'll be breaking the 50m barrier in no time. I fully expect to be publically listed in HK before the Olympics. And we have air conditioning, fool.
By the way, for blowing my cover, say goodbye to your alts' (happy21898, goodgirl32, and goiheoig) roles in our macro corp, dumbass. Now you'll have INTERPOL AND ISD all over me.  
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Adm Tecumseh
Caldari The Templars Knights
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Posted - 2007.05.24 05:30:00 -
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Edited by: Adm Tecumseh on 24/05/2007 05:27:57 They are crawling all over north impass/south providence as well.
Everytime I fly around the n-real/I8-DOG area I end up with an earfull of gibberish.
I guess AAA don't really care who is in their space.
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Gokil
North Eastern Swat
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Posted - 2007.05.24 15:37:00 -
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Originally by: Gloomrake Ono Other corperations who isk farm in a region near you -
Kalike's Knight's regiment. Breed of Malakka. sword of shadow. u e s. Blood Crossing.
If you are in these corp's and want to tell me otherwise, go for it.
LOL. So true its silly. I can find two of those in Fountain. You may want to add Doomsday Corp, but you probably can't because they are XS. Anyway, nice post.

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PHPR Freighter
Minmatar PTS Industries United Corporations Against Macros
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Posted - 2007.05.24 15:45:00 -
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Correct me if I am wrong.. but Fountain is owned by BoB right?
If so... have the BoB guys mail me please.. This is starting to tick me off... no diplos are on.
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erimon
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Posted - 2007.05.25 16:51:00 -
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Edited by: erimon on 25/05/2007 16:53:24
Originally by: Gloomrake Ono Other corperations who isk farm in a region near you -
Breed of Malakka.
If you are in these corp's and want to tell me otherwise, go for it.
This is absurd. Breed of Malakka is a small pirate corporation based in the lowsec of Aridia. We are in no way affiliated with any "farmers" or "sweatshop-workers" or whatever your crusade is against. Thank you for not trying to talk to one of our members and not speaking to our ceo before you make such stupid claims in the public. We have exactly one member who is from time to time visiting the rats in delve for a few days. All this money is for personal use only and most of it is blown back into economy in a matter of days.
I don't know what your definition of a farmer is, but i figure it must be something like "rats in our territory".
Mhhh, ok sorry we take your resources but we need money because tech2 bpos don't just magically spawn in our hangars.
If you are not ok with this just wardec us and station camp us for a while for example in liparer our hq. Maybe we'll consider earning our money with other things if you manage to be enough of a nuisance.
But please stop making stupid allegations without even giving us an evemail or so that we could take any position in this matter. Your behaviour is low and reflects on your corp and alliance. Just be honest and tell people everyone who is not BOB and rats in BOB-Space is officially listed as farmer. Maybe they will stop reading your posts, at least if they have any brain left.
So, best regards and stfu Erimon Director of Breed of Malakka - a legitimate "not farmers" corp
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