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Tanis.
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Posted - 2007.05.25 13:26:00 -
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Here you can discuss the upcomming feature: Level 5 Agents!
You can find information about this and other new things here.
Please keep posts constructive and on topic. ____________________________ I break things.
GM Voodoo > That plan really straddles the fine line between genius and idiocy. Tanis. > And that differs from everything else I say how?
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Pilk
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.05.25 16:20:00 -
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For testing purposes only, what are the chances we can get some uber mission-running setups spawned? CNR with full Pith/Gist-X set, officer PDS, and Crystals, for example, is a far more realistic mission runner than a t2-kitted Raven. Testing this out with only t2 fittings would not be very productive.
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Borgholio
Minmatar Quantum Industries Prime Orbital Systems
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Posted - 2007.05.25 17:07:00 -
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Is it possible to bring capital ships into level 5 missions? If not, how long until the level 6 and 7 missions are released?
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Voin
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Posted - 2007.05.25 18:43:00 -
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MODERATOR CAN DELETE MY OTHER TOPIC ABOUT THIS...
Yesterday 4 of us done with one mission against Gallente, me myself spoke with other Agent and got another kind of mission against Minmatar... If lvl 5 Agent gonna be the mission against Factions such those both above, I thanks to GOD million time I didnt start learning Carrier skills... Cause diplomacy and connections skill flew in a fake and lost time of those mission's... I care about standing to Gallenete and Minmatar in case, cause nobody know future... So, I'm aside of mission such Enemies Abudand and INTERSEPT THE SABOTEURS, cause of standing reason...
And another thing, lvl 5 for gang is good, but No Bounty and No Loot in Tantos - really no good ha ha ha, cheap trick to attention pilot's to new mission...
Now another problem, I have done mission with Matar's and now when I came back to Agent, she offered only find someone... How the heck I can take my reward and other mission and give this one, i did?????
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Voin
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Posted - 2007.05.26 08:29:00 -
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interesting if anybody exept me and few other pilot's interesting about lvl 5 mission...
Well, since noone checked it out so far I have question to DEV: is that true I guessed what lvl 5 mission gonna be only against Faction as Im Caldari high standing against Gallente and Mimatar for me? and no Guristas, Sansha or Serpentis? Is that true what we will have no bounty for that? Is that true what LP they give now 'll be and in future? And also how many pilots gang u believe have to make mission for 40 min's without carrier, cause mission in high sec space? Hope to see any reply soon...
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Phillipe d'Rothschild
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Posted - 2007.05.26 13:01:00 -
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So for the cap ship & level 5 missions, a few questions:
Have all these missions been moved to lowsec yet? I was trying to get my thanatos to them, but most missions I received were located in highsec.
Any possibility of having missions for cap ships on the test server force the location to be a system with full sisi markets? When testing, it is sometimes hard to find a corp member not located in FD- or on the server for that matter who can open up a cyno for me to move my ship. Running 2 accounts on my laptop forces a reboot in a bout 5 minutes, and the move me channel only is for moves to FD-. I really want to help test these missions, but need a little boost to do so effectively.
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Spoon Thumb
Khanid Aerospace Group Khanid Provincial Authority
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Posted - 2007.05.26 13:13:00 -
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Only 1 lvl 5 Agent for Royal Khanid Navy?
Just curious how you went about deciding where to put the new agents. It actually has fairly significant political consequences in my region (Khanid) where these agents are located.
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Ikkajo
Minmatar Illudium Space Products
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Posted - 2007.05.26 16:21:00 -
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Not sure where to post this question, but it is kind of related to the new missioning system.
When this hits, we will now have corporation-wide loyalty point and a LP store. What happens to the existing loyalty points as of just before the patch? Will all the agents have their existing LPs rounded up and placed into the corp bucket, only the biggest lot from one agent, or is everything lost? As I've climbed through the various agents, I've ended up with lots of little buckets of 2-5K per agent that I've never used on anything else. Would be nice if they all end up contributing to the bigger pot. Industrialist Carebear, CEO Illudium Space Products: Where's the KABOOM!? |
d026
THE LEGION OF STEEL WARRIORS.... R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.05.26 16:25:00 -
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i was not able to jump my phoenix in.. so probably cap ships are not allowed. what a crap -.-
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Gorek Loc
Dawning Industries
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Posted - 2007.05.26 22:44:00 -
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Edited by: Gorek Loc on 26/05/2007 22:43:20
Originally by: d026 i was not able to jump my phoenix in.. so probably cap ships are not allowed. what a crap -.-
Noooo... I hoped and expected the carrier was able to do level 5 misisons! Otherwise, they are close to worthless... and in low-sec
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Vicious Phoenix
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Posted - 2007.05.27 19:10:00 -
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Cynos are bugged atm, nobody is jumping anything anywhere.
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d026
THE LEGION OF STEEL WARRIORS.... R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.05.28 01:55:00 -
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i bought the dread in the mission system... so no need to cyno him in anywere
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Caldorous
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.05.28 08:41:00 -
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by default, the lvl 5 missions are not meant to do in capital ships, or at least the ones having different pockets as the acceleration gates are not "configured" to handle neither dreads nor carriers nor... shuttles!!! -----------------------------
Originally by: elbenito
Originally by: Nicholas Barker How do you say minmatar correctly?
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Nymos
Celtic Anarchy Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.05.28 15:15:00 -
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how's the agent offer table now? should i use up all the LPs now or can i keep them and turn in after the patch with similar reward? --
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Voin
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Posted - 2007.05.28 19:10:00 -
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Just done Rogue Spy (1 of 3) mission, was BS's drones in there as Queen's, Matriarch's, Rule's and other... and no wrecks and no bounties, hope that a bug cause reward 230000 ISK u can keep for yourself guys...
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LiBraga
Project Gemini EternalRising
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Posted - 2007.05.28 22:53:00 -
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Just a little bit confused..... According to the blogs lvl5 missions are supposed to be for Capital ships and small gangs. From what I'm hearing capital ships can't be used. But I can't test it because all my Caldari lvl5 agents are in empire space with sec of 0.5 or higher
Here's the blog http://myeve.eve-online.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=469
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Tanis.
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Posted - 2007.05.29 08:25:00 -
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Originally by: LiBraga Just a little bit confused..... According to the blogs lvl5 missions are supposed to be for Capital ships and small gangs. From what I'm hearing capital ships can't be used. But I can't test it because all my Caldari lvl5 agents are in empire space with sec of 0.5 or higher
Here's the blog http://myeve.eve-online.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=469
Notice in the blog it says: "These missions are designed for capital ships or small gangs.." only a small portion of the total planned missions are on Sisi at this point. As some of the level 5 missions are meant to be for small groups, not cap ships.. and these are much more familiar to our designers they made those ones first. I have no ETA yet on when the next batch of missions will be ready, but rest assured that in the future there will be more than what you see on Sisi today. ____________________________ I break things.
GM Voodoo > That plan really straddles the fine line between genius and idiocy. Tanis. > And that differs from everything else I say how?
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Dominique Vasilkovsky
Techmart Industries
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Posted - 2007.05.29 09:56:00 -
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It's a confirmed bug that belt rats don't drop any wrecks right now so that might be why you don't get any loot when testing these missions as well.
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Hectaire Glade
Forum Jockey
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Posted - 2007.05.29 10:17:00 -
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Originally by: Tanis.
Notice in the blog it says: "These missions are designed for capital ships or small gangs.." only a small portion of the total planned missions are on Sisi at this point. As some of the level 5 missions are meant to be for small groups, not cap ships.. and these are much more familiar to our designers they made those ones first. I have no ETA yet on when the next batch of missions will be ready, but rest assured that in the future there will be more than what you see on Sisi today.
Tanis old chap, one question on your comment, are you effectively saying that caps will only be allowed in a percentage of the level 5s?
If agents are going to be giving out both types of missions, cap pilots are going to be declining a set percentage because they can't get in, this will lead to issues with the decline timer. Currently there are only ship size restrictions on a couple of the level 2 missions, aka WC level 2 you can only take in cruiser or below. This is not so much of a problem right now because the player can decide to either downsize his ship and run the mission, or skip it and ask for another (at the risk of 4 hour lockout if he gets WC again).
With level 5s, you are going to be creating a situation where the player needs to choose to downsize and get a gang, or decline and hope to get a cap ship mission next. Its the getting a gang thats going to be a problem, because unless your corp mates are around, or you have 2-3 alt accounts its not going to be very easy to do. EVE mechanics do not promote ganging with non-corp/alliance members, its very dangerous to gang with people you don't know.
You will end up with a lot more '4 hour sin bin' double decline sit outs if this goes in as I assume you meant, I don't see how thats good for the player or the game. There are alternatives:
1) Have certain agents (security, internal security) offer only Cap and Gang missions, not gang only missions 2) Fix the mission randomizer so you never get 2 gang-only missions back to back (and while you are there, stop the 'same mission twice in a row' please!) 3) Open up all missions for caps and gangs (prefered), but use the mission content to determine which is the most favorable approach, not the gate locks 4) Ignore me, and carry on as planned :)
Of course, if you ahve designed this system so a few of the gang-only missions can be run in 0.5+, then many hugs to you, but i suspect this is not the case :)
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CCP Fear
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Posted - 2007.05.29 13:07:00 -
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Originally by: Dominique Vasilkovsky It's a confirmed bug that belt rats don't drop any wrecks right now so that might be why you don't get any loot when testing these missions as well.
Yes I believe that is bugged on SISI only, it is being looked into however.
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Hectaire Glade
Forum Jockey
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Posted - 2007.05.29 14:42:00 -
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For the Cap ship allowed level 5 missions, can you please try to make sure they spawn in the agents system? A Cyno field is one hell of a pirate gank-me-please beacon in low sec.
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Voin
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Posted - 2007.05.29 20:26:00 -
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U guys worry about Cap pilot and speak about it, but I see u didn't do no one lvl 5 mission yet... Cause if you had done one at least, you'll understand what Cap ship 'll not do anything, unless Desiners of CCP 'll have more Fantasy and 'll take out from each one mission those BLOODY NEITRALIZER CENTRY III, cause you cap (dream) pilot 'll not do much, when your capasitor 'll go off in couple of minutes... On my raven cap goes down for 5-10 sec... Enjoy new style and learn passive tank guys... ^-)
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Kapten Klanning
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Posted - 2007.05.30 14:31:00 -
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Edited by: Kapten Klanning on 30/05/2007 14:43:23 Yesterday I try L5 Done missions 3/3 on 0.0 space. I'm skilled L4 mission pilot on T2 Raven and alt on shield transfer Logistic ship. On first two missions I have to kill 4x Neutralizer III towers, 8x Drone Cruise Towers, 18+ Drone BSs and 8-10 scrambler drones with full agro on me. Mission have time bonus of 40 min (atm hardest L4 missions have 6 hour time bonus) and 5700 LP. I lost 2xT2 Ravens and make 5 jump outs. Biggest problem was neutralizer towers what drains me in 1-2 minutes. Even with passive hardeners, situation was critical all time. This mission can be made with 2 Ravens and 2-3 Logistic ships, but for 5700 LP and 1 mil reward for all gang - there is no worth. Mission LP and bounty system must be revisited.
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Kyoi
Shuttles Dont Tank Well
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Posted - 2007.05.30 17:27:00 -
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Please make these available in 0.0 Outposts, Namely the Gallente one which is supposed to be an administrative one. It encourages more people into 0.0 and to build their empires out there.
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Jo ontherun
Gallente Azure Horizon Coalition Of Empires
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Posted - 2007.05.31 10:45:00 -
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Using one of the web based agent locators updated for the locations of level 5 agents on the test server, there dont appear to be L5 Gallente faction agents in any of the combat orintated agents e.g. : Security, Internal Security, Command and Intelligence. Amarr, Minmatar and Caldari appear to have them.
Is the tool wrong or will this be the final layout?
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Hectaire Glade
Forum Jockey
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Posted - 2007.05.31 11:19:00 -
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tools is probably right, and its not the final lay out, more agents to come, more missions to come, diferent locations for agents to come
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Chruker
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Posted - 2007.05.31 17:23:00 -
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I was thinking if there is going to be level 5+ courier missions?
Could make them very long, with multiple stop, require multiple freighters in order to get there in time and ambushes that pick you out while your convoy warps. ----- http://games.chruker.dk/eve_online ----- Top wishes: - No daily downtime - Faster training on sisi - Updated data export - Speedup IGB table rendering |
Malena
Perpetual Dawn
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Posted - 2007.06.01 17:34:00 -
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Edited by: Malena on 01/06/2007 17:42:15
Originally by: Voin
Yesterday 4 of us done with one mission against Gallente, me myself spoke with other Agent and got another kind of mission against Minmatar... If lvl 5 Agent gonna be the mission against Factions such those both above, I thanks to GOD million time I didnt start learning Carrier skills... Cause diplomacy and connections skill flew in a fake and lost time of those mission's... I care about standing to Gallenete and Minmatar in case, cause nobody know future... So, I'm aside of mission such Enemies Abudand and INTERSEPT THE SABOTEURS, cause of standing reason...
And another thing, lvl 5 for gang is good, but No Bounty and No Loot in Tantos - really no good ha ha ha, cheap trick to attention pilot's to new mission...
Now another problem, I have done mission with Matar's and now when I came back to Agent, she offered only find someone... How the heck I can take my reward and other mission and give this one, i did?????
WTH did you just say? I seriously have read your post three times and have only managed to decipher part of this...please clarify some of the problems so I can see if I am having the same ones.
"..diplomacy and connections skill flew in a fake and lost time of those mission's?" WTH?
Man, I get that English is not everyone's first language, but usually you can tell that right away...this started out okay, but then.. wow.
And what do carrier skills have to do with the standings?
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Ren Melchior
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Posted - 2007.06.01 22:56:00 -
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Originally by: Ikkajo What happens to the existing loyalty points as of just before the patch? Will all the agents have their existing LPs rounded up and placed into the corp bucket, only the biggest lot from one agent, or is everything lost?
This guy sums it up for me. Tell us more about the loyalty point store. How does it work, will I lose hundreds of thousands of loyalty points before the patch?
Plus, am I to be understanding that sisi currently doesn't have the loyalty point store? If it's on there.... where the heck is it?
Anyone response to help clear up my confusion would be greatly appreciated.
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Helison
Gallente Times of Ancar THE R0NIN
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Posted - 2007.06.02 13:38:00 -
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Originally by: Ren Melchior
Originally by: Ikkajo What happens to the existing loyalty points as of just before the patch? Will all the agents have their existing LPs rounded up and placed into the corp bucket, only the biggest lot from one agent, or is everything lost?
This guy sums it up for me. Tell us more about the loyalty point store. How does it work, will I lose hundreds of thousands of loyalty points before the patch?
Plus, am I to be understanding that sisi currently doesn't have the loyalty point store? If it's on there.... where the heck is it?
Anyone response to help clear up my confusion would be greatly appreciated.
1. LPs: All LPs from all agents of a corporation should be added. On Sisi you canŠt see your LPs from TQ, because normally LPs are NOT mirrored from TQ to Sisi (@Devs: Please copy all LPs in the next mirror from TQ and check if your procedures for conversion to corp-LPs are working!)
2. LP-store: It is in (in patch 32844), but it is still bugged (very difficult to access) and it is apparently not seeded yet. If you really want to check it: Look for a NPC-station, which has no player-offices on Sisi and youŠll find a button in the offices-tab in station. If there are player-offices, the button will/may be hidden by the player-offices. I accessed the LP-store for Intaki Space Police (where I had about 4500LPs) and no offers were available. There are several filters for searching for offers available, so it will still work, if there are very many offers available.
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