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Cyllaina
Gallente Fallen Angel's Xelas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.26 00:06:00 -
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I read the letter, I don't see anything in there that would constitute a label of " cheating "...
A careful read will allow one to see that the ISD guy was clearly bias against BoB in the instance he spoke about, he even admitted to Warping within 1 " Foot " as he put it, of the dread.
Come on now, we all know if you warp right ontop of someone, be it a few hundred meters or a thousand, the likelyhood that you're going to bump them is high.
So whats the big deal here? Jerk of an ISD reporter got his privledges taken away, -claps-
CCP being contacted via MSN rather than petition? Who cares? You all wish you could do such a thing, I don't see any instance in that entire letter than says Orange Species did anything to " Cheat " or change the " State of the game " or the " Course of his pvp operation " By reporting that ***** to someone he might call friend, who just happens to be on CCP staff.
Come on now people, all this instigating and calling to arms from the community is what will ruin this game, not the fact BoB has CCP staff on MSN lists.
CCP is not a local government, theyre not elected officals, if you don't like the way things are handled, stop paying them, it's not like taxes, you have a choice.
They do NOT have to answer to the customer, simply stop being a customer and go play vanguard or something singleplayer so you dont have to interact with other people.
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Bob Socko
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.05.26 00:06:00 -
[122]
If it was just to fix a POS, he would have let the CEO know. If he really did forget, it all could have been cleared up by responding to the petition - rather than deleting the petition outright.
I'm very disappointed that the initial response ignores the fact that a BoB pilot got an ISD reporter fired via out-of-game channels because he refused to leave a system. The response also ignores the rigged roleplaying events. I'm very, very disappointed.
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Humperdinc
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Posted - 2007.05.26 00:06:00 -
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I got banned on my other account wew !!
CCP it's time to get your act cleaned up (not get it together, cause you done plenty of that).
Get all your DEVS ISDS out of the game and focus on what is needed for the playersbase, in other words the people that pay our paycheck...
The playerbase doest just fine without your divine intervention. You've created a great game, just let the players use it, and get yourselves the f*ck out !
We don't need you ingame we REALLY REALLY don't need u in game.
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Rudos
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Posted - 2007.05.26 00:06:00 -
[124]
Originally by: Lsf XXi Why can BoB summon someone to fire ISD at will?
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Phoenixhawk
Caldari Farscape Mining Hitchhiker's Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.26 00:06:00 -
[125]
None of this really surprises me. Bob's been known as BoD ever since their last time getting busted. If i remember correct someone got banned for bringing that to light too, probably gonna be mass bans with this one too. Stay Chilly & Watch Your Six!
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Randay
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.05.26 00:07:00 -
[126]
please ban all goons. see my msg on MSN, k thanks ccp.
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Myk Taison
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.05.26 00:07:00 -
[127]
Originally by: General Windypops Edited by: General Windypops on 26/05/2007 00:01:24 Well I guess today is the day that Goons went too far, spammed the forums to the point they were taken offline and lost the credibility of the Eve community.
Pretty pathetic to try to debase an entire game with so many uncorped alts simply because of their desire to win a forum war.
If you read between the lines of the drama bomb there's not a shred of actual evidence whatsoever.
A sad day indeed. I just wish Goons could have conducted themselves with a bit more honour, instead of ruining the game for the entire eve community to further their own political ends.
Deliberately spoiling / derailing / spamming every single in game channel and legitimate thread on the forums was a step too far. Learn to respect your community, Goonswarm. If you want to be treated with credibility behave in a way that people respect, don't grief the game for innocent players.
general windypops we are trying to keep this discussion on topic please be serious!
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Cyanagen
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Posted - 2007.05.26 00:07:00 -
[128]
Follow the money.
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JaegerNZ
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Posted - 2007.05.26 00:07:00 -
[129]
Quote: We humbly ask our players to trust that the internal monitoring of our employers is being taken seriously.
Well i can say for most players i have talked with about this topic that there is a firm belief that this will not happen.
the main reason for this is that it is in CCP's best interests to say that they have sorted maybe even burn a GM or two but in the greater part do nothing. this sort of in depth corruption would mean a fundimental shift in the way CCP staff interact with their clients and other parts on the community and i cannot see this occurring.
Quote: The current allegations will be fully investigated and we will publish our findings at the first opportunity. Please understand that this may not be today or tomorrow, but this issue will not be ignored.
The general understanding of this statement is that you do not have enough time to prepare a decent enough cover story, for the actions, while you will indeed find out what will and has occurred making that known to us will not happen, as with all companies you will need to find a way to release the information while appearing to be hard done by.
This situation would not have come to past if the correct procedures and checks had been in place.
we will all look forward to see what happens will players/corps who have benefited by corrupt GMs behaviors be penalized, will players/corps who had the opposite get compensation?
WIll those players who have been banned for this get thier accounts opened again?
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jeffb
GoonFleet
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Posted - 2007.05.26 00:07:00 -
[130]
Im going to have to agree with Blacklight, interweb forums are so much more important than developer miscoduct.
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Lady Spanky
Perkone
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Posted - 2007.05.26 00:07:00 -
[131]
Really pathetic goonswarm. Hijacking every forum thread and public channel, forcing forums to be closed for what - a paper thin conspiracy theory? Way to go... losers.
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Ouroboron
Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.05.26 00:07:00 -
[132]
Originally by: Laura Faorun Why can BoB summon Admiral CHarmarjarajhkjshdf to fire ISD at will?
Just curious, cause you know, it's pretty much the major issue here.
This.
Also, wasn't he the one who congratulated BoB in local immediately following a titan kill? I think he maybe needs to have his Instant Messenger priviledges revoked, and a key logger installed on any computer he has access to at CCP.
This stuff is starting to get out of hand.
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WildSide
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.05.26 00:08:00 -
[133]
any goons able to answer (or tell me its secret) if the POS was a capital Pos or not. :) would make things a bit clearer. Signature
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Shadow Elk
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Posted - 2007.05.26 00:08:00 -
[134]
Originally by: Bob Socko If it was just to fix a POS, he would have let the CEO know. If he really did forget, it all could have been cleared up by responding to the petition - rather than deleting the petition outright.
I'm very disappointed that the initial response ignores the fact that a BoB pilot got an ISD reporter fired via out-of-game channels because he refused to leave a system. The response also ignores the rigged roleplaying events. I'm very, very disappointed.
Dont choke on all that meat
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Anton Marx
Caldari Bulgarian Mafia Squad The OSS
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Posted - 2007.05.26 00:08:00 -
[135]
But really, if I were BoB, I wouldn't even think of posting in this thread. One BoB post will get at least 10 anti-BoB responses within a blink of an eye...
And tbh, arguing (and stating) that ppl should be "dealt with" because they want to express thir frustration of developers (allegedly) cooperating in-game with alliances, is simply outrageous.
So BoB, really, just don't bother - you'll get more hated than you already are.
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Kaldaine
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.05.26 00:08:00 -
[136]
Originally by: Blacklight To be honest I'm more interested how CCP intend to deal with a particular element of the player base who think that just because their personal drama llama is on the loose it's then ok to spam these forums to the degree that they have to be taken down to deal with it.
I too am worried about this. How will I be able to cheat if this continues?
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Fabienne Runestar
Ars ex Discordia GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.05.26 00:08:00 -
[137]
You can't sweep this one under the rug like you swept the BoB T2 Cynonet chain accessible to BoB directors set up by their then director of capital ships known as T20. Oh wait you changed the EULA on that, that password sharing is at your own risk, and made it seem like it had always been the caae.
We demand answers beyond what's been given to us.
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Posted - 2007.05.26 00:09:00 -
[138]
Originally by: 8ObliVioN8 I want the truth first, justice later.
True justice can only be had when the truth is known by all.
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ArmyOfMe
Exotic Dancers Club Eternal Rapture
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Posted - 2007.05.26 00:09:00 -
[139]
Edited by: ArmyOfMe on 26/05/2007 00:08:58 nm
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Jonas Vance
Orion's Nebula
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Posted - 2007.05.26 00:09:00 -
[140]
So I assume all of goon has been forum banned....
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Sen Xia
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.05.26 00:09:00 -
[141]
Originally by: Bob Socko If it was just to fix a POS, he would have let the CEO know. If he really did forget, it all could have been cleared up by responding to the petition - rather than deleting the petition outright.
I think there is another big lesson to be learned here. The only reason goons had to blitz the forums is because CCP has shown us we have no other viable ways to make these issues heard. If people want this behavior to stop, then CCP needs to figure out a better way to handle its PR disasters that doesn't involve deleting threads and disabling forums.
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Astasia Orian
Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.05.26 00:10:00 -
[142]
A bunch of people (Hi Goonies) emo-declaring the "END OF EVE AAAAAAAA" is cute when most of them have only been around 5 months and were attracted to it for the very reason that it's full of anarchic sillyness. On a t20 scale of scandalness this is about a 0.00001. Credit for being able to make dramamountains out of molehills though!
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Banana Torres
The Green Banana Corporation
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Posted - 2007.05.26 00:10:00 -
[143]
The stuff about the POS is only one part of the complaint.
Seems like CCP is doing what they did when the t20 **** hit the fan and pretending the more serious allegations didn't happen.
I wonder how many subscribers this round of BoB cheating will cost CCP?
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Caligulus
Caldari Eve University Ivy League
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Posted - 2007.05.26 00:10:00 -
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/me awaits to hear what clever spin the PR department will put on it. Not that i'll ever believe a lickin' word CCP says ever again. I feel sorry for CCP's business partners. They're all going down in flames.
it's been my experience that you just NEVER trust anything a PR person says on behalf of a company. It all smacks of lies and agendas. As soon as I find a new game to play i'm gone. **** this ****.
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CmdrJamesStarbucks
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Posted - 2007.05.26 00:10:00 -
[145]
I think it's pretty clear that this is true, given CCP's acknowledgment of the issue. If it wasn't true, they would have not deleted the petition, and secondly they would not have had to take down the forums to hide/deny the issue, and then continue by lying in their press/news release. You don't need director access to fix a POS (that doesn't have a problem).
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Wylker
Caldari Pyrrhus Sicarii Aftermath Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.26 00:10:00 -
[146]
This is the dumbest thread I have ever seen. There isn't even any misconduct to report. Please do everyone a favor and just ban every ip that goons have posted with from posting on the forums. Hell, ban them in-game, they do nothing but buy GTCs to fund their alliance and are a detriment to every aspect of the game.
Shoot their drama llama in the face too, put it out of it's misery.
@goonies: Go here, stay there.
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SuperSarge
The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.05.26 00:10:00 -
[147]
Edited by: SuperSarge on 26/05/2007 00:09:35 CCP for the lose. I cancelled my account :) @above poster, its what i'm probably doing
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Hebachica
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Posted - 2007.05.26 00:11:00 -
[148]
We no longer play EVE Online
We now play Corruption Online
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Xalorn
Butcherbirds
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Posted - 2007.05.26 00:11:00 -
[149]
This still doesn't address the ISD scandal. If someone in bob has the ability to directly influence someones termination, that person has extreme influence to do other things as well.
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Wylker
Caldari Pyrrhus Sicarii Aftermath Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.26 00:11:00 -
[150]
Oh yeah, just to show how 1337 and aw3s0/\/\3 they are, they continue to spam THIS thread with their non-corp alts. YOU GUYS ARE WINNERS AND I LOVE YOU.
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