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Toujours
Caldari Clan Shadow Wolf Sylph Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.26 01:30:00 -
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Dont want flames, want answers. Is it allowable to pos bowl or not, and no I am not talking about a one time attempt I am talking about 3 big ugly gutterballs. Only ships killed where those that actually attacked the titan. asskick productions Sylph Alliance |
Samuel Freedom
Minmatar Ramdon Industries corporation
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Posted - 2007.05.26 01:33:00 -
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I think it depends on severel factors which are to salacious to go into here
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Susan Acid
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.05.26 01:36:00 -
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NO!
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Mr Mirage
AWE Corporation Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2007.05.26 01:41:00 -
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no. has just been a thread about it in COAD
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Adm Tecumseh
Caldari The Templars Knights
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Posted - 2007.05.26 01:52:00 -
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Edited by: Adm Tecumseh on 26/05/2007 01:53:34 wahhhhh I was just killed while afk hiding in my POS.
Moommmmmmiiiieeeeeeee.
It is not right that a ship can pass though shields and knock other ships out before being ejected but it is also not right that you can log off in a bubble or jump thouogh a gate and log while jumping but these are the game mechanics so:
Petition it,
cry about it, lament about it Post about it, Please stfu about it.
Adm
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Rhaegor Stormborn
Sturmgrenadier Inc R i s e
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Posted - 2007.05.26 01:56:00 -
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Nope.
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PoorImpulseControl
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Posted - 2007.05.26 02:17:00 -
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If BoB does it to you? No.
If you do it to Bob? Yes.
*rimshot*
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Mr Mirage
AWE Corporation Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2007.05.26 02:19:00 -
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Originally by: Adm Tecumseh Edited by: Adm Tecumseh on 26/05/2007 01:53:34 ... it is also not right that you can log off in a bubble ...
not anymore (at least not without being pwnd)
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Yunii
Freedom Builders Inc. Endless Horizon
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Posted - 2007.05.26 02:43:00 -
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Originally by: PoorImpulseControl Edited by: PoorImpulseControl on 26/05/2007 02:26:08 If BoB does it to you? Yes.
If you do it to Bob? No.
*rimshot*
Speaking of BoB and POS bowling.. They did it again last night in L-5JCJ. So if they can keep doing it, it must be allowed, right?
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Rexthor Hammerfists
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.05.26 03:15:00 -
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Originally by: Yunii
Originally by: PoorImpulseControl Edited by: PoorImpulseControl on 26/05/2007 02:26:08 If BoB does it to you? Yes.
If you do it to Bob? No.
*rimshot*
Speaking of BoB and POS bowling.. They did it again last night in L-5JCJ. So if they can keep doing it, it must be allowed, right?
exactly, the fact tho that we lost a carrier to evil thug bowling must be ignored btw. - Purple Conquered The World, We the Universe.
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Korizan
Oort Cloud Industries
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Posted - 2007.05.26 04:24:00 -
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The shields are designed to keep people out. If someone is using a bug to push ships out then it is an exploit period. Now if you snuck an alt spy in and have permission to enter the shields then push ships out well then sorry but that is working within the mechanics. If someone forgot to set up the shield password then sorry your loss again.
On the converse. Before it was fixed. assigning fighters inside a POS was an exploit. Sticking your nose out of a POS is an exploit if other ships can't target you back. IF other ships can target you it is not an exploit but the tactic is well lame and cheezy.
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hydraSlav
Synergy Evolved Sparta Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.26 04:58:00 -
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Originally by: Mr Mirage no. has just been a thread about it in COAD
Link please?
== Above comments are my personal views Oveur >Local shouldn't be a tactical tool, it's for chat
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nickky01
The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.05.26 05:15:00 -
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Originally by: Rexthor Hammerfists
Originally by: Yunii
Originally by: PoorImpulseControl Edited by: PoorImpulseControl on 26/05/2007 02:26:08 If BoB does it to you? Yes.
If you do it to Bob? No.
*rimshot*
Speaking of BoB and POS bowling.. They did it again last night in L-5JCJ. So if they can keep doing it, it must be allowed, right?
exactly, the fact tho that we lost a carrier to evil thug bowling must be ignored btw.
thats a lie, Evil Thug was using a complicated system of ropes and pullys
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ghost st
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Posted - 2007.05.26 05:33:00 -
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Originally by: Yunii
Originally by: PoorImpulseControl Edited by: PoorImpulseControl on 26/05/2007 02:26:08 If BoB does it to you? Yes.
If you do it to Bob? No.
*rimshot*
Speaking of BoB and POS bowling.. They did it again last night in L-5JCJ. So if they can keep doing it, it must be allowed, right?
Havent you heard, BOB play on a different set of rules than the rest of us.
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Dark Shikari
Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.05.26 05:37:00 -
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Edited by: Dark Shikari on 26/05/2007 05:36:19
Originally by: ghost st
Originally by: Yunii
Originally by: PoorImpulseControl If BoB does it to you? Yes.
If you do it to Bob? No.
*rimshot*
Speaking of BoB and POS bowling.. They did it again last night in L-5JCJ. So if they can keep doing it, it must be allowed, right?
Havent you heard, BOB play on a different set of rules than the rest of us.
Nevermind the fact that IAC invented POS bowling... ITS BOBS FAULT ITS ALL BOBS FAULT!
(And yes, it should be an exploit, but its CCP's job to say that)
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couger malthas
Amarr Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.05.26 05:38:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari Edited by: Dark Shikari on 26/05/2007 05:36:19
Originally by: ghost st
Originally by: Yunii
Originally by: PoorImpulseControl If BoB does it to you? Yes.
If you do it to Bob? No.
*rimshot*
Speaking of BoB and POS bowling.. They did it again last night in L-5JCJ. So if they can keep doing it, it must be allowed, right?
Havent you heard, BOB play on a different set of rules than the rest of us.
Nevermind the fact that IAC invented POS bowling... ITS BOBS FAULT ITS ALL BOBS FAULT!
(And yes, it should be an exploit, but its CCP's job to say that)
comming from a bob slave alliance i can see how you would want to make bob feel better _______________________________________________
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Dark Shikari
Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.05.26 05:40:00 -
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Originally by: couger malthas comming from a bob slave alliance i can see how you would want to make bob feel better
There is no trollish comment in EVE that changes the fact that:
a) Band of Brothers didn't even invent POS bowling b) IAC abused it long before BoB even tried it c) Its CCP's fault for not sucking up their pride and making it a damned exploit
Nevermind that a BoB carrier was stolen via POS bowling recently... ITS ALL BOBS FAULT!
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Admiral Nova
Strike Team Nova
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Posted - 2007.05.26 06:00:00 -
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Doesn't matter who does it, it's quite clearly an exploit. I'm amazed that anyone thinks otherwise, let alone argues otherwise.
If it wasn't you might as well remove the shields around all the POS's.
That is has gone this far is really a pretty big black mark on the game. The first time it was done it should have been declared an exploit, the second, bans issued. The fact that it goes on is a strike against CCP more than against any alliance using it.
POS shields aren't meant to let anyone inside them, at all ever, it's a BUG that they do. Exploiting a bug... ?
Of course if you do this in ship that can be lost, you face risk, but it's still an exploit.... if you do it in a ship that cannot be lost in the attempt? Gutless and pathetic. Pretty much a vindication for anyone that says you couldn't win but for cheating.
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couger malthas
Amarr Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.05.26 06:00:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari
Originally by: couger malthas comming from a bob slave alliance i can see how you would want to make bob feel better
There is no trollish comment in EVE that changes the fact that:
a) Band of Brothers didn't even invent POS bowling b) IAC abused it long before BoB even tried it c) Its CCP's fault for not sucking up their pride and making it a damned exploit
Nevermind that a BoB carrier was stolen via POS bowling recently... ITS ALL BOBS FAULT!
i hope who ever did that didnt get banned _______________________________________________
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ghosttr
Amarr ARK-CORP FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.26 06:06:00 -
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I know its not supposed to happen, but we also have these things, I think they are called ship maintenance arrays, that are supposed to be able to hold your ships so they cant be taken
I suggest that if you don't want your ships bumped out, get a ship maintenance array and store your ships there.
I do believe that it should be classified as an exploit though. And that game mechanics should be changed so that it cant happen. But until CCP declares it an exploit, and a fix is in place, a SMA is your best bet to keep your ships safe.
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Admiral Nova
Strike Team Nova
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Posted - 2007.05.26 06:11:00 -
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Edited by: Admiral Nova on 26/05/2007 06:11:14
Originally by: ghosttr I know its not supposed to happen, but we also have these things, I think they are called ship maintenance arrays, that are supposed to be able to hold your ships so they cant be taken
I suggest that if you don't want your ships bumped out, get a ship maintenance array and store your ships there.
I do believe that it should be classified as an exploit though. And that game mechanics should be changed so that it cant happen. But until CCP declares it an exploit, and a fix is in place, a SMA is your best bet to keep your ships safe.
This is happening while people are still in their ships also...
Ships being bumped out of a POS forcefield by spies is another thing all together. That can be argued as within game mechanics. POS shields are supposed to be a safe spot for manned ships. Not somewhere you can be bumped out of into a waiting fleet of enemy ships one at a time.
It's such an exploit it was supposed to be 'fixed' in one of the recent patches. So it's a known bug. I can't see how anyone can support exploiting a bug. Bans are in order TBH.
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Teldar Novastorm
Cirrius Technologies O X I D E
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Posted - 2007.05.26 06:17:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari
Originally by: couger malthas comming from a bob slave alliance i can see how you would want to make bob feel better
There is no trollish comment in EVE that changes the fact that:
a) Band of Brothers didn't even invent POS bowling b) IAC abused it long before BoB even tried it c) Its CCP's fault for not sucking up their pride and making it a damned exploit
Nevermind that a BoB carrier was stolen via POS bowling recently... ITS ALL BOBS FAULT!
My understanding is that its done with a Titan because of the massive collision box, I dont think IAC has one of those yet, BoB has like 30 though, so its pretty clear their pilots were the ones that invented it at least for titan sized ships if it can even be done with smaller vessels.
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Mistress Suffering
Einherjar Rising
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Posted - 2007.05.26 06:32:00 -
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Currently you can POS bowl.
Its a bad idea though, so I'd like to see CCP fix it.
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Sir Emi
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.05.26 06:53:00 -
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It's allowed, but I think it's exploit hard to fix.
Space Odyssey Maker...
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Jarnau Gurgeh
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Posted - 2007.05.26 08:16:00 -
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Originally by: Toujours Dont want flames, want answers. Is it allowable to pos bowl or not, and no I am not talking about a one time attempt I am talking about 3 big ugly gutterballs. Only ships killed where those that actually attacked the titan.
it depends WHO is doing this __ CCP: ...we are GOD, you are in OUR world...
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Reverand Maynard
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Posted - 2007.05.26 08:17:00 -
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It depends on whether or not you can talk to GMs on MSN.
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fire 59
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.05.26 08:31:00 -
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Originally by: Teldar Novastorm
Originally by: Dark Shikari
Originally by: couger malthas comming from a bob slave alliance i can see how you would want to make bob feel better
There is no trollish comment in EVE that changes the fact that:
a) Band of Brothers didn't even invent POS bowling b) IAC abused it long before BoB even tried it c) Its CCP's fault for not sucking up their pride and making it a damned exploit
Nevermind that a BoB carrier was stolen via POS bowling recently... ITS ALL BOBS FAULT!
My understanding is that its done with a Titan because of the massive collision box, I dont think IAC has one of those yet, BoB has like 30 though, so its pretty clear their pilots were the ones that invented it at least for titan sized ships if it can even be done with smaller vessels.
It can be done with moms which iac had fyi
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Acinonyx Jubatus
International Multi-Player Consortium Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.05.26 08:44:00 -
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Edited by: Acinonyx Jubatus on 26/05/2007 08:45:04
Originally by: fire 59
Originally by: Teldar Novastorm
Originally by: Dark Shikari
Originally by: couger malthas comming from a bob slave alliance i can see how you would want to make bob feel better
There is no trollish comment in EVE that changes the fact that:
a) Band of Brothers didn't even invent POS bowling b) IAC abused it long before BoB even tried it c) Its CCP's fault for not sucking up their pride and making it a damned exploit
Nevermind that a BoB carrier was stolen via POS bowling recently... ITS ALL BOBS FAULT!
My understanding is that its done with a Titan because of the massive collision box, I dont think IAC has one of those yet, BoB has like 30 though, so its pretty clear their pilots were the ones that invented it at least for titan sized ships if it can even be done with smaller vessels.
It can be done with moms which iac had fyi
Don't believe we had the Nyx, much less that corp when I first over heard it.
I admit I found it kinda funny, never participated though, only over heard on vent. Not gonna say anything about doing it though, for obvious reasons...
Oh, I will say though, titans are excellent bowling tools.
Witnessed shrike land one a nyx and wyvern of bob's and watched them both go flying atleast 50-70km away.
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Verite Rendition
Caldari AUS Corporation CORE.
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Posted - 2007.05.26 08:47:00 -
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Originally by: Mistress Suffering Currently you can POS bowl.
Its a bad idea though, so I'd like to see CCP fix it.
It is being fixed. The latest Rev 2 build on Sisi has POS bubbles acting like warp bubbles if you don't have the rights to enter the bubble(i.e. you'll come out of warp at the bubble edge). ---- AUS Corp Lead Megalomanic |
Sentinel Eeex
Caldari Lords Of Amber
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Posted - 2007.05.26 08:50:00 -
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Rules are tricky.
Depends in which corp/alliance you are in.
If you're in the right one, then rules get changed to suit you.
I think you're not in the right alliance, so to answer you question - bowling, directed to your POS, is perfectly legal and logical.
POS shields are there to prevent radiation from coming in. Nothing more.
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