EVE Search - (#16 - 2007.05) BMBE Shareholder Report

Originally by: SonOfAGhost
All I can do is constantly remind them that helping thieves is not acceptable behaviour when running a public corp.

As you say, you will repeatedly call BMBE thieves and liars, contrary to any evidence, at every opportunity to force them to go against their stated code of ethics, or choice of play style (whatever), simply because you say they should.

Odd sort of self rationalization but it's still called griefing.

BMBE is not some scammer/loser who you are protecting the public from. I think you may have lost perspective on this crusade you have taken upon yourself. And since, as you agree, there really is nothing you can do to actually make the situation change... does your actions not become redundant trolling? Especially with your unfounded accusations attached?

I'm just saying, get a grip. You might be over the borders a bit here. And, sadly, there is no law on what is mandatory of a public company. Especially one that is now closed to public influence.


Author	Topic
Rthor Gallente Smugglers Inc.	Posted - 2007.06.06 12:08:00 - [1] Originally by: Shar Tegral Originally by: SonOfAGhost Please tell me your entire post was an attempt at humour. I believe that you are debating the loan that defaulted last year not the loan that defaulted in this reporting period. Your thoughts, along with everyone else's thoughts, on that matter have been well posted, heavily posted, in a multitude of previous threads. This thread is, I believe, regarding this month's activity. I, quite frankly, would probably think it wise if you started your own thread regarding whatever lingering issues you have and try to resolve that there. It would be more on topic not to mention you could gather those who actually care to hear your continued ranting. It would sparing the rest of us, who don't give a damn, the minutes we've lost reading what you type. Do the community a service and don't hijack threads. PS: No need for the name calling either. I rather enjoyed his post and I think that it was on topic and want to thank him for taking the time to write it.
Rthor Gallente Smugglers Inc.	Posted - 2007.06.06 13:31:00 - [2] Originally by: Ray McCormack Originally by: SonOfAGhost Originally by: TornSoul I see no reason to hang this kinda person out to dry. It will serve no purpose. It will "protect" no one. I agree IF the thief was the kind of person you describe. There is absolutely no reason to believe they are, just the opposite, so different rules apply. And who judges this person's intentions? You do. Then everybody else judges you based on your decision.
Rthor Gallente Smugglers Inc.	Posted - 2007.06.06 22:21:00 - [3] Originally by: Shar Tegral BMBE has stated that they are open to the idea if, and only if, someone can express a valid reason for disclosure. But who is there to judge if an idea is valid? I would rather say that 10 ideas are not valid than find one valid idea that disagrees with me.
Rthor Gallente Smugglers Inc.	Posted - 2007.06.07 02:17:00 - [4] Originally by: Shar Tegral Originally by: Rthor I would rather say that 10 ideas are not valid than find one valid idea that disagrees with me. Coming from the forum troll... I'm not in the least bit surprised at your lack of moral fiber. Gladly the only decision within your realm is whether or not to continue posting drivel. Sadly, you are predictable even in that. First, nobody can claim that I took their money and lost it. So my moral character is quite unassailable especially in this forum. Second, if you do not get my comment go read what TS wrote a bit earlier in this thread about 10 innocent people and then you might understand it.
Rthor Gallente Smugglers Inc.	Posted - 2007.06.07 13:25:00 - [5] Shar if you have a problem with me make a thread and I will respond to you there. This is BMBE thread and it is no place to troll me personally. You have said that I write "drivel" that I am "juvenile," that I have "low moral fibre," etc. I am not your punching bag.
Rthor Gallente Smugglers Inc.	Posted - 2007.06.09 16:50:00 - [6] Originally by: Shar Tegral Originally by: SonOfAGhost All I can do is constantly remind them that helping thieves is not acceptable behaviour when running a public corp. As you say, you will repeatedly call BMBE thieves and liars, contrary to any evidence, at every opportunity to force them to go against their stated code of ethics, or choice of play style (whatever), simply because you say they should. Odd sort of self rationalization but it's still called griefing. BMBE is not some scammer/loser who you are protecting the public from. I think you may have lost perspective on this crusade you have taken upon yourself. And since, as you agree, there really is nothing you can do to actually make the situation change... does your actions not become redundant trolling? Especially with your unfounded accusations attached? I'm just saying, get a grip. You might be over the borders a bit here. And, sadly, there is no law on what is mandatory of a public company. Especially one that is now closed to public influence. Evidence is there. Just because you keep repeating that there is no evidence that does not make this evidence of wrongdoing disappear. And anyhow why are you so much in these threads? You have contributed nothing to them unless your purpose is to provide forum attack services to BMBE. All you do is attack anybody who has a question, create straw man arguments and demolish them and congratulate yourself on being so great. You insult people, accuse them of trolling and griefing when all that is being done is people are asking BMBE (not you?) questions and these questions are either ignored by TS or are not answered in a way that justifies the reputation level that he thinks he has or should have. It is sad that mods have not gotten to you yet. And since you are probably on wiki looking up "straw man," go look up "groupthink" also because this is what the Eve market suffers from. Heck let me help you: A straw man argument is an informal fallacy based on misrepresentation of an opponent's position. To "set up a straw man" or "set up a straw-man argument" is to create a position that is easy to refute, then attribute that position to the opponent. A straw-man argument can be a successful rhetorical technique (that is, it may succeed in persuading people) but it is in fact a misleading fallacy, because the opponent's actual argument has not been refuted. Groupthink is a type of thought exhibited by group members who try to minimize conflict and reach consensus without critically testing, analyzing, and evaluating ideas. During Groupthink, members of the group avoid promoting viewpoints outside the comfort zone of consensus thinking. A variety of motives for this may exist such as a desire to avoid being seen as foolish, or a desire to avoid embarrassing or angering other members of the group. Groupthink may cause groups to make hasty, irrational decisions, where individual doubts are set aside, for fear of upsetting the groupÆs balance. The term is frequently used pejoratively, with hindsight.
Rthor Gallente Smugglers Inc.	Posted - 2007.06.09 17:24:00 - [7] Originally by: Shar Tegral I guess you are still sore from that warning you got when you trolled my first IPO thread. Some wounds never heal I guess and you want to see if I'll join you in getting them. Who knows. More importantly, who cares. You have said this a few times. Since it is an example of how you behave let me address it. You claim that I got a warning because if I did then it proves your further claim that I am a troll because the moderators agreed with you that I trolled your thread. But I did not troll your thread and I do not believe that I got a warning for it. And even if I did I would have only gotten it because of your lawyering. But most importantly even if I did get a warning how would you know this? If I did get a warning at that time, and you knew about it, is it smart to admit to having this ability to know that somebody has gotten a warning after you complained? I am pretty sure that mods normally would not tell you whether the person you turned in got a warning. And so either you have improper contact with mods and know this to be true or you do not know this to be true but keep repeating it, you oh great Shar Tegral who never tells a lie and is whiter than the Pope.