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branodn lee
Minmatar kadian blades
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Posted - 2007.06.04 04:05:00 -
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i just loged in after getting some sleep and found a eve system mail in my in box. it said the following. 2007.06.03 19:03 Spamming public channels is very annoying for other citizens of the EVE universe. Cease this activity at once, or face further repercussions.
so anyone else ever get any kind of eve system mail. oh yea and as for spamming public channel all i was doing was posting in a low sec system where i and other run mission. the post was as follows. i did post this every 5-10mins to give local a constant warning and i know the only ones that would someone get a eve system mail to me telling me i was in trouble to stop are the priates. since the rest of local are mission runners and like to have the warnings.
watch out for the *** pet in local that are scan probing mission runners. if you do a mission be aligned to a station or gate. dont use drone they are makeing it easy for them to probe you. dont do missions alone.
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Delilah Blackheart
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Posted - 2007.06.04 04:18:00 -
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i did post this every 5-10mins
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Imperator Jora'h
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Posted - 2007.06.04 04:22:00 -
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Did you spam local or EVE-mail?
As for the warnings it would not surprise me if it was a bot. The EVE system looks for spam like behavior, generates a warning and flags you for further review. I really do not know but that would make sense. If you truly ar enot doing anything wrong likely upon review the GMs would leave it be or at worst send a polite request that you not do it again.
Again just guesses on my part. For all I know you'll get an insta-ban
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branodn lee
Minmatar kadian blades
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Posted - 2007.06.04 04:27:00 -
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Originally by: Delilah Blackheart i did post this every 5-10mins
So you admit to the spamming.
well if giveing local a warning about pirates then yes i did do that.
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Damon Ra
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.06.04 04:34:00 -
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Was Octobersnow corp in LOCAL possibly? If so, that would explain your spam complaint as they don't like it when players warn other players about their antics and they will definitely open petitions against you if you use LOCAL to warn others.
Current Tranquility status: SELECT production_code FROM SISI WHERE testers = 'players' AND testers <> 'ccp_staff' AND testing_duration <> 'sufficient'; |
Dark Shikari
Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.06.04 04:35:00 -
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Maybe the pirates petitioned you?
--23 Member--
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branodn lee
Minmatar kadian blades
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Posted - 2007.06.04 04:43:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari Maybe the pirates petitioned you?
they did petition me and they got there way on that part but that is not going up the chain about that. but it was siddy and his alt that are in *** the name i can not say, and 4 others from another pirate corp that was flying with siddy.
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Imperator Jora'h
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Posted - 2007.06.04 05:11:00 -
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Originally by: Damon Ra Edited by: Damon Ra on 04/06/2007 04:33:23 Was Octobersnow corp in LOCAL possibly? If so, that would explain your spam complaint as they don't like it when players warn other players about their antics and they will definitely open petitions against you if you use LOCAL to warn others.
Not harshing on SNOWY in particular, but if the shoe fits...
WTF?
Bad enough that they petition this but whatever to that. What I am curious about is why CCP would lift a finger about this? It is considered a no-no for me to warn others of a gate camp? In the past I have done that...sit on the hi sec side warning others coming in that a camp was waiting for them. I am shocked that this could have gotten me in trouble had the pirates bothered to complain. My view is if they are waiting to ruin my night I am free to try and ruin their's.
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Damon Ra
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.06.04 05:22:00 -
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If the pirates petition you for spamming LOCAL you can bet a GM will show-up and/or warn you.
What exactly constitutes SPAM is the questionable issue in these cases.
Current Tranquility status: SELECT production_code FROM SISI WHERE testers = 'players' AND testers <> 'ccp_staff' AND testing_duration <> 'sufficient'; |
Mr Friendly
That it Should Come to This
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Posted - 2007.06.04 10:09:00 -
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Originally by: Delilah Blackheart i did post this every 5-10mins
So you admit to the spamming.
posting in local every 5-10 minutes is 'spamming'?
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Fliewatuet
Angelus dos Business
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Posted - 2007.06.04 10:13:00 -
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Originally by: Delilah Blackheart i did post this every 5-10mins
So you admit to the spamming.
I hope you'll never find the trade channels. There are lots and lots of spammers. Should you think about petitioning them there, you would be busy for the next few days. ;-)
Regards, Fliewatuet -- |
ToxicFire
Phoenix Knights Dark Nebula Galactic Empire
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Posted - 2007.06.04 10:15:00 -
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Edited by: ToxicFire on 04/06/2007 10:15:49 Edited by: ToxicFire on 04/06/2007 10:15:24 I seriously doubt warning every 5-10 minutes in local can constitute spamming, most likely rats didn't like you warning people thus petitioned you, if it happens again report the GM's to their superiors via email (can't rember which at the moment) think pritty much everyone posting in this thread would back you up. Sig removed as it lacks EVE-related content. Mail [email protected] if you have questions. -Hango
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Detrol
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.06.04 10:33:00 -
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When is warning people good and when does it become spam? Is it no spam cause you are warning people or can it also be used to let them know there are some very good deals on the market, your deals of course.
It's hard to draw a distinct line there, so most likely a bot detected that you were repeating the same text over and over again.... I call that spamming.... but that's just me probably.
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ToxicFire
Phoenix Knights Dark Nebula Galactic Empire
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Posted - 2007.06.04 11:13:00 -
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Originally by: Detrol When is warning people good and when does it become spam? Is it no spam cause you are warning people or can it also be used to let them know there are some very good deals on the market, your deals of course.
It's hard to draw a distinct line there, so most likely a bot detected that you were repeating the same text over and over again.... I call that spamming.... but that's just me probably.
Theres no such device in eve moderating channels, the only anti spam device is a timer preventing you from sending more than a certain number of messages within a set time. This incident was clearly player petitioned. Sig removed as it lacks EVE-related content. Mail [email protected] if you have questions. -Hango
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Ginger Magician
Minmatar OctoberSnow Corp
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Posted - 2007.06.05 12:57:00 -
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Let this be a warning to all spammers of warning messages.It is not allowed and will get u perma banned if u persist in doing it. U know about the camp and have avoided it why do u want to grief the legitimate gameplay of others?
I do not go around stealing your ore or killing your mission npcs so u cant complete your missions.Spamming warnings in local is the equivalent for piracy.
Octobersnow will petition each and every spammer and they will face the consequences of their actions.
Snowy are recruiting.Join channel '0CTOBERSNOW' ingame (zero not letter) Buying a NYX-mail me inga |
Bistot Kid
The First Thing You'll Ever See
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Posted - 2007.06.05 13:10:00 -
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What on earth has this got to do with the topic heading "how does the eve system send eve mails." ?
Wise man say, never eat YellowSnow.
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ry ry
StateCorp
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Posted - 2007.06.05 13:22:00 -
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Originally by: Ginger Magician Let this be a warning to all spammers of warning messages.It is not allowed and will get u perma banned if u persist in doing it. U know about the camp and have avoided it why do u want to grief the legitimate gameplay of others?
I do not go around stealing your ore or killing your mission npcs so u cant complete your missions.Spamming warnings in local is the equivalent for piracy.
Octobersnow will petition each and every spammer and they will face the consequences of their actions.
haha! the more you try to push people around on the internet, the more i love you.
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Amyth
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Posted - 2007.06.05 13:30:00 -
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Originally by: Ginger Magician Let this be a warning to all spammers of warning messages.It is not allowed and will get u perma banned if u persist in doing it. U know about the camp and have avoided it why do u want to grief the legitimate gameplay of others?
I do not go around stealing your ore or killing your mission npcs so u cant complete your missions.Spamming warnings in local is the equivalent for piracy.
Octobersnow will petition each and every spammer and they will face the consequences of their actions.
I lol'd.
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Nikita Fontaine
Caldari g guild
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Posted - 2007.06.05 13:35:00 -
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its very easy to avoid a spam petition merely place the persons name in the message so it is aimed at them as they enter local and change the message slightly and it wont be considered spam. Or even better private convo people :) ----------------------------------------------- Great minds think alike but fools seldom differ
Directors are like buttons they hold things together.
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sesanti
Minmatar Universal Exports Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2007.06.05 13:47:00 -
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Originally by: Ginger Magician (...)Spamming warnings in local is the equivalent for piracy.
Octobersnow will petition each and every spammer and they will face the consequences of their actions.
So you are admitting pirating is petitionable? WOW, i knew you were a fluffy carebear, Ginger
But, I would advise you to shut up when you have no idea what spamming is. Saying the same stuff with 5-10 mins of separation is not SPAMMING! If that message you got, Brandon, was a result of a petition, I would scalate it to a Senior GM. _______________________________________________ The ShadowMaster -
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Xedrik
Amarr Supernova Industries
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Posted - 2007.06.05 14:10:00 -
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Originally by: Ginger Magician Let this be a warning to all spammers of warning messages.It is not allowed and will get u perma banned if u persist in doing it. U know about the camp and have avoided it why do u want to grief the legitimate gameplay of others?
I do not go around stealing your ore or killing your mission npcs so u cant complete your missions.Spamming warnings in local is the equivalent for piracy.
Octobersnow will petition each and every spammer and they will face the consequences of their actions.
Haha! Funny guy. So warning others, is spam? Dude... You're view on spamming is fubar.
Listen, why do we warn others? Well, because we know there are pirates in the area and want to INFORM others about it. This is what we call "watching each others backs". The other players in the system choose to listen to the warning or just ignore it. I can't see how this would be annoying to anyone else but the pirates in question...
Informing other players about a threat can't be considered as spam. If you think it's messing up your pirating, you'd better work on your reputation and CONCORD standing so you won't appear as one. Doh!
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voogru
Gallente Massive Damage
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Posted - 2007.06.05 15:30:00 -
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Originally by: Ginger Magician Let this be a warning to all spammers of warning messages.It is not allowed and will get u perma banned if u persist in doing it. U know about the camp and have avoided it why do u want to grief the legitimate gameplay of others?
I do not go around stealing your ore or killing your mission npcs so u cant complete your missions.Spamming warnings in local is the equivalent for piracy.
Octobersnow will petition each and every spammer and they will face the consequences of their actions.
Soo... It's okay to grief the legitimate gameplay of others... just as long as its not you being griefed?
Classic.
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Dark Shikari
Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.06.05 15:32:00 -
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Originally by: Ginger Magician Let this be a warning to all spammers of warning messages.It is not allowed and will get u perma banned if u persist in doing it. U know about the camp and have avoided it why do u want to grief the legitimate gameplay of others?
I do not go around stealing your ore or killing your mission npcs so u cant complete your missions.Spamming warnings in local is the equivalent for piracy.
Octobersnow will petition each and every spammer and they will face the consequences of their actions.
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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Sparta Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.05 15:33:00 -
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Originally by: Ginger Magician Let this be a warning to all spammers of warning messages.It is not allowed and will get u perma banned if u persist in doing it. U know about the camp and have avoided it why do u want to grief the legitimate gameplay of others?
I do not go around stealing your ore or killing your mission npcs so u cant complete your missions.Spamming warnings in local is the equivalent for piracy.
Octobersnow will petition each and every spammer and they will face the consequences of their actions.
You're funny... --------
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Agent Li
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Posted - 2007.06.05 15:39:00 -
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If you have friends in system that you want to warn, either use Ventrilo or Teamspeak.
Then the pirates will have no idea that you're warning people. ------------------
"Don't be afraid to take advantage of your enemy's weaknesses. Becasuse winning is everything after all." |
Heikki
Gallente Wreckless Abandon Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.06.05 16:16:00 -
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Originally by: branodn lee eve system mail .. 5-10mins
I started to wonder the issue on your topic as well: do GMs/Dev use such anonymous system to give official warnings?
Would suggest you to petition it, asking should you view such mails as official orders, or can you safely ignore them (on basis that it might be some rogue trickster/oddly named person/etc). Personally would very much ignore such mails till I learn more.
In case you wish to discuss whether your posting behaviour was acceptable to the community, should be a bit more detailed in description I think. Like how many total messages you posted (and what percentage of local chatter that caused), and what was the real minimum interval (your 5mins could have been 1min 36 secs by server clock for example..). Logs are very handy for that.
-Lasse who thinks such warning network is one of the proper ways to play Eve..
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