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Sandslinger
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Posted - 2007.06.08 00:07:00 -
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So I read/heard that EVE will not play properly on a Dua lCore PC
My current PC is dying fast motherboard shuts out every half hour or so and I have to get a new pc FAST
Motherboard : ABIT AN9 32X AMDX2 ATHLON 590SLI SOC AM2 CPU : AMD ATHLON 64X2 AM2 DUAL CORE 4200 MEM : 1GB DDR2 667 dual channel 2x512 PC2-5300 GFX : BFG G-FORCE512MB DDR2 7600GS/OC 8XAGP
this is my what I was thinking of gettign tomorrow Will EVE run ok on this ? sorry if wrong forum - bit desperate as a weekend locked out of EVe is a somewhat scary prospect - withdrawal symptoms anyone
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Dark Shikari
Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.06.08 00:15:00 -
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Originally by: Sandslinger So I read/heard that EVE will not play properly on a Dual Core PC
Don't know who said that, I've been playing EVE fine on a dual core for ages.
And yes, that will play EVE fine.
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Black Atom
Confederation of Red Moon Red Moon Federation
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Posted - 2007.06.08 00:16:00 -
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Does that motherboard actually have a AGP slot? I'm guessing that it doesn't and you might want to swap that AGP card for a PCIe one.
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Sandslinger
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Posted - 2007.06.08 00:19:00 -
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Wow cheers, it was originally a corp mate of mine that said it wouldnt work and that you had to do some funky stuff to single thread it (mumbo jumbo to me just didn't sound like something i wanted to have to do)
oh and btw I was looking at the reads nr go up and was just thinking omg my motherboard is gonna die again and il have to spend another 30 minutes sweet talking my comp to boot up and not even Dark Shikari has replied, and guess what
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Sandslinger
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Posted - 2007.06.08 00:22:00 -
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oh hmm
the only one from priceless computing which states that it has a PCI is ASROCK 939NF6G-VSTA,DDR 400,PCI-E 4XSATA its well under half the price of the one above i just went with the best(most expensive) one i could see as all i know is if your motherboard sucks then your whole setup sucks.
I'll ask the IT guy in my work for advice on this cheers for the heads up
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Feng Schui
Minmatar The Ninja Coalition Phobos Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.08 00:26:00 -
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there was an issue way back that caused the game to crash when using dual cpu's, but its been fixed.
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Vechloran
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Posted - 2007.06.08 00:44:00 -
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Rams super cheap right now, get 2 gigs, seriously.
And why get a gaming machine and then shoot it in the foot by getting a terrible video card? I mean 7600GS???? thats for the budget computers, not dual cores. I would really suggest getting an 8000 series GTS at the very least at the moment, then you can play the newer games coming out in DirectX 10 and run Vista nicely.
Though I understand if your in a pinch money wise, but I would say its better to save for another month or two to get a system that won't be out of date before you even put money down on it.
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Fusebl0wn
Caldari Goblin Squad
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Posted - 2007.06.08 01:03:00 -
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I built a really nice dual core system about a month and a half ago for $800 shipped, I did reuse my LCD monitor, keyboard, and mouse, however. It's cheaper to build the same system now after the Intel and AMD chip price drops a month or two ago and price drops in general since and I would say it's around $650-700, if that, depending on what all parts you need.
I have to suggest a better video card as well.. they released the mid-range 8000 series for Nvidia that will support DX10 and they're a bit cheaper than the 8800 cards. I ended up getting a DX9 card, Sapphire ATI X1950 PRO 512MB for $150, however.
I also have to agree with the post above that you should get at least 2GB of RAM. You can get 2GB (2x1GB sticks) of Corsair and other good brands for $100 or less, easy, if you look around. NewEgg always has really good deals that change daily and I pretty much buy all my parts from there.
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Sandslinger
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Posted - 2007.06.08 01:05:00 -
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yeah I was thinking of getting 2X 1 gig sticks
for the graphic card I just hate paying 300 squid for something thats gonna be "obsolete" in a months time.
There was this one tho GAINWARD 8600GTS PCX 256M TV DUAL DVI at ú145 quid as opposed to ú85 I just dont know the brand name and i feel like I dont know enough about em to deviate from what I know
( funnily enough that exact reasoning always makes me mad about people that think Intell are the only option out there )
That one is taken from the site im compiling this thing from http://www.pless.co.uk/home.php?cat=25
If anyone in the know has any ideas/comments its greatly appreciated
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Sandslinger
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Posted - 2007.06.08 01:08:00 -
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Oh just missed that last post there.
the GFX card you state isn't listed on their site but $145 is even a bit cheaper than their price so i suppose shipped pluss potential VAT it might still end up cheaper. does the company you used ship to the UK ?
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Dark Shikari
Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.06.08 01:13:00 -
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Originally by: Sandslinger yeah I was thinking of getting 2X 1 gig sticks
for the graphic card I just hate paying 300 squid for something thats gonna be "obsolete" in a months time.
There was this one tho GAINWARD 8600GTS PCX 256M TV DUAL DVI at ú145 quid as opposed to ú85 I just dont know the brand name and i feel like I dont know enough about em to deviate from what I know [/quote=Sandslinger] Gainward have a very very long reputation of high-performance high-quality graphics cards.
Their one bad moment was their bugged series of GeForce 4s with bugged 2D filters that had pink dots on the screen and all had to be recalled.
Originally by: Sandslinger
( funnily enough that exact reasoning always makes me mad about people that think Intell are the only option out there )
Except that right now, the Core 2 Duo outperforms the Athlon 64s enough that unless you're on a very small budget, it basically is the only option . Sort of like how Athlon 64s were the only option when Intel's best chip was the abominable Pentium 4.
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Xrak
Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.06.08 01:23:00 -
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Also the 8600 is a disappointment of a graphics card.
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Sandslinger
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Posted - 2007.06.08 01:28:00 -
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Edited by: Sandslinger on 08/06/2007 01:29:35 Edited by: Sandslinger on 08/06/2007 01:29:13 Righty hoe' I'll go with the Gainward one then it's kind of middle range on price, and I'm happy with something that will run EVE and look nice, while leaving me with enough cash to butter my bread for the next month
Quote: Sort of like how Athlon 64s were the only option when Intel's best chip was the abominable Pentium 4
I actually got my last AMD at that time simply because i detested how Intell adverts would tell me that thier processor would make my internet run faster
thank's to everyone that replied, I feel contented now that I can go get my new comp knowing im not going to make some horrible ignorant mistake
EDIT Dangit I just saw Xrak's post and I was all set too IS the Gainward 8200 really worse then the 7200 listed before. All the ones above it in price range is 100% more and I cant hold of a month to play EVE
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SumDum
AirHawk Alliance Insomnia.
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Posted - 2007.06.08 03:53:00 -
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Mine runs fine on dual core proc, has for quite awhile. I don't think the client takes advantage of the dual core, but that is another matter entirely.
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Kuolematon
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.06.08 05:55:00 -
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Dunno, I have quadcore extreme and having 2 EVE's open same time takes up 15% of CPU time
"to be honest it makes me wonder about the mental state of a person who would join a corp called Space Perverts and Forum warriors"
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Dave White
coracao ardente
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Posted - 2007.06.08 06:39:00 -
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Originally by: Kuolematon Dunno, I have quadcore extreme and having 2 EVE's open same time takes up 15% of CPU time
Die please
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Malcanis
High4Life Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.08 07:22:00 -
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Originally by: Sandslinger So I read/heard that EVE will not play properly on a Dua lCore PC
My current PC is dying fast motherboard shuts out every half hour or so and I have to get a new pc FAST
Motherboard : ABIT AN9 32X AMDX2 ATHLON 590SLI SOC AM2 CPU : AMD ATHLON 64X2 AM2 DUAL CORE 4200 MEM : 1GB DDR2 667 dual channel 2x512 PC2-5300 GFX : BFG G-FORCE512MB DDR2 7600GS/OC 8XAGP
this is my what I was thinking of gettign tomorrow Will EVE run ok on this ? sorry if wrong forum - bit desperate as a weekend locked out of EVe is a somewhat scary prospect - withdrawal symptoms anyone
EvE runs great on my C2D E6400 + 2Gb + 7900GS, using 2 clients.
The only thing I have found is that if I alt-tab directly between clients, I tend to get lockups requiring a reboot. I switch clients by pressing the windows key and clicking the taskbar.
(I hate windowed mode, before anyone suggests it)
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Xtro 2
Caldari Pre-nerfed Tactics
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Posted - 2007.06.08 07:28:00 -
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the old and uncommon dual core problems eve had on some peoples systems were fixed quite a while back by both microsuck and amd with patch/updates, there are no more dual core problems, i have a PC with the CPU you mention and it runs fine.
Only thing in your lineup that looks not too future proof is the nvidia 7600, if its just for eve tho, its fine.
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Arushia
Nova Labs Empire Research
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Posted - 2007.06.08 07:37:00 -
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Edited by: Arushia on 08/06/2007 07:35:46
Originally by: Xtro 2
Only thing in your lineup that looks not too future proof is the nvidia 7600, if its just for eve tho, its fine.
Fine currently, but CCP keeps promising a new graphics engine that will likely demand more from a video card.
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fuze
Gallente Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency
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Posted - 2007.06.08 09:06:00 -
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Originally by: Kuolematon Dunno, I have quadcore extreme and having 2 EVE's open same time takes up 15% of CPU time
So the other 85% is? ..... Wasted?
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Vala Draaken
Madhatters Inc. M. PIRE
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Posted - 2007.06.08 09:29:00 -
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Edited by: Vala Draaken on 08/06/2007 09:32:13
Originally by: Sandslinger ASROCK 939NF6G-VSTA,DDR 400,PCI-E 4XSATA
Originally by: Sandslinger
Motherboard : ABIT AN9 32X AMDX2 ATHLON 590SLI SOC AM2 ... GFX : BFG G-FORCE512MB DDR2 7600GS/OC 8XAGP
You can't use this GFX with either of the motherboards you mention. The Motherboards have PCI Express (PCIe/PCI-E or SLI which is 2x PCIe) and the GFX is AGP. So they are not compatible.
You'll need to get a GFX which is also PCIe.
Vala D.
Edit: Grammar and link to SLI
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Vinni
Caldari Fusion Enterprises Ltd Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2007.06.08 09:52:00 -
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When AMD Dual Core processors first came out, there was an issue with EVE and many other games where the play was choppy. Changing the affinity to one processor for the EVE process in Taskmanager resolved that. CCP adviced upgrading the AMD processor drivers from the AMD site and has since made EVE much smoother on dual core processors.
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Kuolematon
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.06.08 10:08:00 -
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Originally by: fuze So the other 85% is? ..... Wasted? Do you know you can donate that CPU time on cancer research?
Do you know what it costs to keep up that CPU @ 100%? Beside, I would use eighter Seti@HOME or ProgressQuest (which I have running on my dualcore comp @ work).
Originally by: Dave White Die please
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"to be honest it makes me wonder about the mental state of a person who would join a corp called Space Perverts and Forum warriors"
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Zeonos
Amarr Fairtrade Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.06.08 10:10:00 -
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i run 1-2-3 accounts just fine on a duel core e6600 :) "Intel" though i have 2gb ram 800mhz and a geforce 8800. but it is the cpu that eve need the most. :)
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Krexus
Amarr Reunited Praesidium Libertatis
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Posted - 2007.06.08 10:26:00 -
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ABIT why abit and AM2 socket? in price -> preformance the Intel CPU's are better atm. specially the new ones like E6320 and E6420 goes well with the new ASUS boards.
Also you might wanna look for the new Nvidia GFX cards like the 8600 GT and GTS not to expencive but dx10 and sexeh!
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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Sparta Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.08 10:58:00 -
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It'll run fine, but a single EVE client won't really be able to take advantage of the multi threading. 2 EVE clients at once, though, would be made of Win. --------
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Rosalina Sarinna
KHM Corporation
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Posted - 2007.06.08 11:55:00 -
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I have had a dual core Athlon X2 for a long time now (over a year), and I've been playing EVE for something like 1.5 years. The game has crashed only once since I started playing. In other words, no problems at all.
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Kuolematon
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.06.08 11:59:00 -
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Oh btw, more epeen waving .. my mobo is ASUS Striker Extreme and I got 4GB of 800MHz DDR2 memory along with WD Raptor X 150GB HDD for operating system and swap
"to be honest it makes me wonder about the mental state of a person who would join a corp called Space Perverts and Forum warriors"
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DarkFenix
Caldari Pilots Of Honour
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Posted - 2007.06.08 12:27:00 -
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My advice: Don't get a premade rig. Buy the components, then if you have the knowhow, build it yourself. If not, get a friend to. I've built 2 PCs for myself now and while I did get a few problems that had me tearing hair out for a day or three, it was worthwhile in the end.
For motherboards I recommend going with Asus, I worked on an Asus mobo for ages. Very reliable, and they go as high spec as you need. I'm currently on a fairly high end BFG mobo and that seems very reliable aswell, with a nice user friendly BIOS that makes overclocking easy. Only other thing to say about mobo's is go as high end as you can afford, any other part is easy to replace, the motherboard is not.
CPU-wise, definitely go intel. AMD supposedly have an amazing processor in the works, but Intel currently have the best processor out there (tbh I'm a bit of an AMD fanboy usually). Forget quad core unless you're stupidly rich, few enough programs at the moment even take advantage of dual core properly, let alone quad. Get one of the Conroe series processors, they perform amazingly well and if you're so inclined they overclock fantastically aswell.
I suggest getting 4Gb RAM as a bit of futureproofing. RAM prices have recently crashed somewhat which makes getting lots a pretty sound investment. 1 gig will see your machine struggling to run some things even now, 2 gigs is getting to be the standardly recommended amount for gaming. 4 will keep you going ages. I recommend Corsair brand RAM. Very reliable, very fast.
Forget the AGP graphics card, AGP is on the way out. Get yourself the best PCIe card you can. Forget the 7X00 range of cards. If you have the money, get a Geforce 8800GTX. If you're on a tighter budget, I recommend an ATi Radeon HD2900XT. It's roughly equivalent to an Geforce 8800GTS in price, some say it doesn't perform as well, but it's a very new card and its drivers aren't fully optimised yet. I confess to being somewhat of an ATi fanboy, since I've always had terrible driver problems with Nvidia cards. Radeon drivers tend to work much better, without needing to roll back your drivers to play some older games.
Only other piece of advice there is, go expensive with power supply. Most important thing of all. Get a reliable brand (reliable brand = the specified power is exactly what you get, under load or not) and if possible go a bit overkill with wattage (never hurts to be futureproof). Antec brand power supplies have always performed well for me (while the Enermax PSU I got a while back fried my damned hard drive) and I'm currently have no problems whatsoever with a Corsair power supply.
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Winterblink
Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.06.08 13:39:00 -
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Dual Core here, runs fine. I'm Intel, not AMD, if that's a concern to the OP.
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