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Gaia Thorn
Infestation.
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Posted - 2007.06.09 16:47:00 -
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it is just me that finds it ironic that Bob/pets/etc.. called north for a NAP fest whilst every corp they foguht either napped up or got steam rolled ?
Not meant as a flamebait nor a talk down on bob but they irony just struck whilst reading theese forums and watching the map.
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Chirinako
Caldari Legionari Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.06.09 16:53:00 -
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Don't quite understand exactly what you mean but the way i see it, the north teamed up to fight Bob. Bob and allies were already 1 big team before the north invaded.
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Major Stormer
Caldari Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.06.09 16:56:00 -
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Now a days EVE is a napfest. Everyone is so scared of everyone else, they NAP everyone else. BOB and friends is a huge napfest, coaltion and friends is a huge napfest.
Thank heavens for few blues..
--------- Its just a game. Get over yourselfs. www.eve-tribune.com Dont get too excited now.
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Kramer Verone
Amarr TeamMX
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Posted - 2007.06.09 16:56:00 -
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Edited by: Kramer Verone on 09/06/2007 16:57:52
There's a very big difference between the northern napfest and the southern alliance.
The northerners were just blue to each other out of fear of constant wars, while the alliance works together for the same non-selfish goals.
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Joshua Foiritain
Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.06.09 16:57:00 -
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Edited by: Joshua Foiritain on 09/06/2007 16:57:14
I would say the difference is the type of nap used. The north napped to avoid conflict while Bob naps to bolster their defense/offense in preparation for inevitable conflict. -----
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sakana
North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.06.09 16:58:00 -
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the way i see it, the North were all Nap'd with each other to prevent war amongst themselves, as well as a kind of multi-region defense treaty. Bob and friends Nap'd with the intention of going to war, then all those that realised it was in their interest to join bob's side nap'd them also. ------------
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Janu Hull
Caldari Order of Z Industries
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Posted - 2007.06.09 17:01:00 -
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A NAP is a NAP is a NAP.
Why would any version of a NAP be "wrong" if it works to the benefit of the corporations and alliances within it?
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Gyro DuAquin1
Tri Optimum Ev0ke
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Posted - 2007.06.09 17:06:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Edited by: Joshua Foiritain on 09/06/2007 16:57:14
I would say the difference is the type of nap used. The north napped to avoid conflict while Bob naps to bolster their defense/offense in preparation for inevitable conflict.
o rly, why are you so sure that the north didnt do it the same way, and except for the fix and mc nap the relations ship between iron, rzr and others in the north where longer then the new friends bob made.
Iam quiet amused how ppl like you josh try to pretend that you are any different then the nap fest up north.
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Cal5
Domination.
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Posted - 2007.06.09 17:18:00 -
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So when BOB do it, its a great tactical move. But when another alliance does it, it is lame and for all the wrong reasons. Get ******* real..... |
Harry Hood
Atomic Geese
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Posted - 2007.06.09 17:20:00 -
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Edited by: Harry Hood on 09/06/2007 17:19:01 To be honest, it is sort of looking the same up north with all the new alliances holding the space as it was before, napwise.
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Gutsani
Chaos Reborn
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Posted - 2007.06.09 17:23:00 -
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*sigh*
south: people are napped because they fear BoB -> BoB = leader
north: people want to carebear in peace without fighting eachother, so they nap -> no leader
the north was a "peacefull region" while the south was more like the soviet union. ------------------------ Stop reading my siggy! |
Rikeka
Amarr Eye of God X-PACT
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Posted - 2007.06.09 17:26:00 -
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Originally by: Gutsani *sigh*
south: people are napped because they fear BoB -> BoB = leader
north: people want to carebear in peace without fighting eachother, so they nap -> no leader
the north was a "peacefull region" while the south was more like the soviet union.
Must be probaby the best description of EvE politics so far...
"I am matter... I am anti-matter... I can see your past... I can see your future... I consume time... And I will consume you!"
-Culex (SMRPG) |
Divus
Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.06.09 17:32:00 -
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Edited by: Divus on 09/06/2007 17:32:05
Originally by: Cal5 So when BOB do it, its a great tactical move. But when another alliance does it, it is lame and for all the wrong reasons.
pretty much sums it up realy -------------------------------------------------
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Waagaa Ktlehr
Amarr Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.06.09 17:40:00 -
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The Northern NAP was a pact that described that entities wouldn't attack each other. It was hardly a defensive alliance. They all let each other die seperately.
The current "NAP" is more of an offensive alliance, we work together to conquer. We help each other out where there is a need to.
I'd call the current northern offensive an alliance, not a NAP fest. :) -
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Metal Dude
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.06.09 17:43:00 -
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Originally by: Gaia Thorn
Not meant as a flamebait nor a talk down on bob but they irony ...
You actually think that people will believe that statement? You being an ex-CELES and all? How dumb do you think people are that play this game?
What's ironic is that from CELES you jump to a pirate corp. and now have -10-security status. That's what's ironic. But I guess apples don't fall far from the tree.
The truth will set you free
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Kramer Verone
Amarr TeamMX
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Posted - 2007.06.09 17:44:00 -
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Originally by: Cal5 So when BOB do it, its a great tactical move. But when another alliance does it, it is lame and for all the wrong reasons. Get ******* real.....
not the Alliances's fault if you were all weak minded people and fell for the brilliant propaganda.
unless you can field 50-man gangs on moment's notice, any alliance needs friends.
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MKeeper
Midnight Cartel
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Posted - 2007.06.09 17:46:00 -
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Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr The Northern NAP was a pact that described that entities wouldn't attack each other. It was hardly a defensive alliance. They all let each other die seperately.
The current "NAP" is more of an offensive alliance, we work together to conquer. We help each other out where there is a need to.
I'd call the current northern offensive an alliance, not a NAP fest. :)
You should remove your head from your own arse if you actually believe that tripe. Southern napping scum
You could also apply this to the term bandwagon... first the 'coalition' were mocked for it and then that quickly died down when most of the alliance realised they were in a larger one. Blinkers are great when you're wearing them.
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Gnulpie
Minmatar Miner Tech
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Posted - 2007.06.09 17:55:00 -
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Originally by: Kramer Verone There's a very big difference between the northern napfest and the southern alliance.
The northerners were just blue to each other out of fear of constant wars, while the alliance works together for the same non-selfish goals.
With all due respect, but that is nonsense. How is Xelas and Rise working together for example? And constant wars you say? Of course the so called 'pets' are afraid of constant wars, they want peace in their territory, isn't that what every territory aiming alliance is working for?
It is indeed funny, BoB flamed 'the north' quite a lot for their napping each other. If they do it in the south it is a 'strategic move'.
Spinning ftw!
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Kahor
Minmatar Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.06.09 18:01:00 -
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Originally by: MKeeper
Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr The Northern NAP was a pact that described that entities wouldn't attack each other. It was hardly a defensive alliance. They all let each other die seperately.
The current "NAP" is more of an offensive alliance, we work together to conquer. We help each other out where there is a need to.
I'd call the current northern offensive an alliance, not a NAP fest. :)
You should remove your head from your own arse if you actually believe that tripe. Southern napping scum
You could also apply this to the term bandwagon... first the 'coalition' were mocked for it and then that quickly died down when most of the alliance realised they were in a larger one. Blinkers are great when you're wearing them.
Save that the coalition have always had up until now, higher numbers than the alliance. And there is quite a difference in term of calling yourself an alliance, and calling your self a bandwagon with omg no brakes !!!! ---------------- An eye for an eye make a whole world blind.
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TheArchJudge
Gallente FinFleet
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Posted - 2007.06.09 18:03:00 -
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Originally by: MKeeper You should remove your head from your own arse if you actually believe that tripe. Southern napping scum
You could also apply this to the term bandwagon... first the 'coalition' were mocked for it and then that quickly died down when most of the alliance realised they were in a larger one. Blinkers are great when you're wearing them.
*sigh* Corp: Midnight Cartel Member Count: 1
Must not feed the trolls
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Nero Winger
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.06.09 18:08:00 -
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lol. now discussing NAP methods. omg cant you guys just form up and start shooty shooty?
this talking makes me cry. has eve become a GIANT Oprah-Show or what?
ugh... you know... my feelings were hurted when bob did this... so i cried and my wife cried as she saw me crying and my children now wear only black cloeths and play counter strike... - <-- STFU pls
start thinking with your head. this is a game not a chatt program.
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Joshua Foiritain
Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.06.09 18:11:00 -
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Edited by: Joshua Foiritain on 09/06/2007 18:10:22
Originally by: Gyro DuAquin1 o rly, why are you so sure that the north didnt do it the same way, and except for the fix and mc nap the relations ship between iron, rzr and others in the north where longer then the new friends bob made.
Iam quiet amused how ppl like you josh try to pretend that you are any different then the nap fest up north.
They didn't lift much of a finger when their friends where dieing, that right there is the diffrence. -----
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Camilo Cienfuegos
Caldari EP0CH
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Posted - 2007.06.09 18:26:00 -
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Quote: the north was a "peacefull region" while the south was more like the soviet union.
Spoken like a true "northerner"! The north has never been peaceful. NAPfest it may have been, but peaceful it was not. Triumvirate? NFC/OPUS/Sparta? ISS? None of these entities had any direct link to the Alliance, save the first and last who due to the arrogance of the short-lived coalition were forced into that camp. One may also mention in defense (hah!) of the North that they did NAP specifically to fight the Alliance - Goonswarm are just one example of this, having been the catalyst for some of the wars with the names I mentioned above.
So, the north made it's own bed and it's now lying (in tatters) in it. You could've made it so much harder - Especially the Pure Blind/Fade/Deklein contingent - but too many people ducked out too soon. Not that you do, but if you ask my opinion the real reason the north fell was YouWhat - an alliance that never should've had a reason to be formed!
"You do it to yourself, you do; and that's what really hurts"
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MKeeper
Midnight Cartel
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Posted - 2007.06.09 18:32:00 -
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Originally by: TheArchJudge
Originally by: MKeeper You should remove your head from your own arse if you actually believe that tripe. Southern napping scum
You could also apply this to the term bandwagon... first the 'coalition' were mocked for it and then that quickly died down when most of the alliance realised they were in a larger one. Blinkers are great when you're wearing them.
*sigh* Corp: Midnight Cartel Member Count: 1
Must not feed the trolls
:rolleyes: Corp: Finfleet Member Count: 360
and my post above still contained more points relevant to the OP than yours.
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Toppar Wear
STK Scientific Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.06.09 18:34:00 -
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Originally by: Metal Dude Edited by: Metal Dude on 09/06/2007 17:45:49
Originally by: Gaia Thorn
Not meant as a flamebait nor a talk down on bob but they irony ...
You actually think that people will believe that statement? You being an ex-CELES and all? How dumb do you think people are that play this game?
What's ironic is that from CELES you jump to a pirate corp. and now have -10-security status. That's what's ironic. But I guess apples don't fall far from the tree.
Edit: Besides, what are you complaining about? Now you and your CELES buddies can go gank BoB allies all over the north and boast about it on the forums.
He wanted something new.. What have that got to do with CELES.. Where you always bob ?... Guess not, people move on and so should you.. CELES is on summer holliday so stop being all afraid about ur pets getting hammered just now Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Sahwoolo |
Gutsani
Chaos Reborn
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Posted - 2007.06.09 18:39:00 -
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Originally by: Camilo Cienfuegos
Spoken like a true "northerner"!
if you had any clue you would realise i am not a northern .. also notice my quotes arround the "peacefull region"
and i was not giving a general description of the region either, this thread is about naps, not regions. just to clarify it. read past the lines, it helps.
offcourse, i dont expect a noob to know anything. ------------------------ Stop reading my siggy! |
Camilo Cienfuegos
Caldari EP0CH
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Posted - 2007.06.09 18:48:00 -
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Quote:
if you had any clue you would realise i am not a northern .. also notice my quotes arround the "peacefull region"
You mean just like my quotes around "northerner"? Comprehension FTW! I also take it you missed me shooting you & your friends in and around Providence/Catch? Oh wait, you didn't undock from the NPC station...
Quote: and i was not giving a general description of the region either, this thread is about naps, not regions. just to clarify it. read past the lines, it helps.
Right. The examples I gave were the NFC/OPUS vs IRON/FLA conflict, which escalated due to a NAP with Goonswarm. You consider this irrelevant, I presume?
Quote: offcourse, i dont expect a noob to know anything.
Of course, six months is such a long time in Eve. Or are you older than you look? Is this an occasion to say "PWYM"?
-- Tractor Beams Caldari Buff |
Gutsani
Chaos Reborn
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Posted - 2007.06.09 18:57:00 -
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Edited by: Gutsani on 09/06/2007 18:56:49
Originally by: Camilo Cienfuegos
You mean just like my quotes around "northerner"? Comprehension FTW! I also take it you missed me shooting you & your friends in and around Providence/Catch? Oh wait, you didn't undock from the NPC station...
dude, seriously, get yourself a clue and step from the computer. you have NEVER shotten at me or anybody i flew with in catch or providence, YOU are the one who died to us 3 times and your setup is teh funny.
and you still dont understand how irrelevant your post is to this thread? ------------------------ Stop reading my siggy! |
Zagum Darkfin
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.06.09 19:05:00 -
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To the OP, do you know what NAP means???
Ok boys and girls here is a politcial lesson on packs or agreements. Non-Aggression Pack (NAP for the tards) Treaty only means if you don't shoot me I don't shoot you. THAT IS IT. It does NOT address common goals, trade, corp relationships, leaderships and roles, rules and regulations. A NAP just simply means you agree not to fight, end of story, move on.
There are Hundreds of OTHER Kinds of political relationships corps can have between themselves. There are stronger forms of "Alliances and Coalitions" that go far beyond a simple NAP. You have Owner/Tenant packs, military alliance packs, trade packs, political packs, defensive agreements etc. etc. that all can govern how corps and people behave among each other.
Trying to claim BOB is a napfeast means you don't have a clue what the hell you are talking about or understand the political process of Bob and friends. Try again, Next please!!
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Maraude Fury
Minmatar Shadow Of The Light R i s e
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Posted - 2007.06.09 19:17:00 -
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Originally by: Gnulpie
With all due respect, but that is nonsense. How is Xelas and Rise working together for example?
Xelas and RISE don't work together in a formal sense, mainly due to geography. Each one of us assists those Blue to us in our area of operation. Because Rise lives in Feythabolis, we tend to help those in that area that are blue to us.
Now, if you asked how we help GONADS or Digital Renegades, it'd be a little different, as they are right next to us.
Maraude Fury Shadow Of The Light .SOL.
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