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Hellspawn01
Amarr Falcon Advanced Industries
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Posted - 2007.06.15 13:01:00 -
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Originally by: Zafriel Thats where your wrong, with respect to Chinese farmers; not many own their computers, most work in huge sweat shops for 12 hour shifts in return for a few dollars. When I was last in Foshan I saw one huge warehouse with over 1000 people in the one space playing mmorpgs, it was disgusting, it was dirty, extremely warm and stank....tbh it nearly made me vommit.
For someone who seems to despise chinese isk farmers you do know very little about them, Im pretty sure the vast majority of those isk farmers would like to have a haircut and live to the standards of the western countries.
They chose it that way. IŠve seen it aswell but they keep doing it. But thats not our problem. I will not go into this cuz its not allowed here to discuss politics.
But thats pretty much all irrelevant. A violation against the EULA is a violation. The person behind the char is irrelevant.
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voogru
Gallente Massive Damage
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Posted - 2007.06.15 14:45:00 -
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Originally by: Leandro Salazar So when someone is doing something violating the EULA and detrimental to the game overall, we are supposed to be lenient as there is a real person behind the computer, yet when people that hurt noone get ganked in highsec and lose all their assets in one fell swoop we are supposed to laugh at them despite there being a real person behind the computer?
Yeah, sure. Sorry, but this macro-defender doesn't have all cookies on the same platter...
Because farmers have rights too.
Actually, farmers have MORE rights than players. Because thats the politically correct way!
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Areaulius
Caldari Mad Mercs
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Posted - 2007.06.15 15:29:00 -
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Originally by: Karlemgne
Also, I think the whole issue is rather humerous, as 85% of people who play MMOs regularly violate the EULA that they've never read, but these same people are always the first to scream up and down about banning someone they don't like for "violating the EULA.
-Karlemgne
Where did this "85% of people who play MMO's regularly violate the EULA that they never read, but these same people are always first to scream up and down about someone they don't like for violating the EULA" come from?
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voogru
Gallente Massive Damage
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Posted - 2007.06.15 16:30:00 -
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Originally by: Areaulius Where did this "85% of people who play MMO's regularly violate the EULA that they never read, but these same people are always first to scream up and down about someone they don't like for violating the EULA" come from?
I think he pulled it out of you know where.
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Flinx Evenstar
Minmatar Spartan Industries Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2007.06.15 16:44:00 -
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Originally by: Jebe Noyon
BTW why do you think these so called farmerboys are from China?
The Chinese email address in the screen shot is a good clue
btw, you might want to run a spell checker through your post if you are commenting on people finishing college Sig removed...coz like, you know sometimes I pirate...no, not pirating..err defending the gurista..yes that's the one |
banner
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Posted - 2007.06.15 17:16:00 -
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Quote: I think CCP are doing a good enough job of that themselves with their "excellent customer service". To the OP - so you have a PERSONAL grudge against these people? Because if you don't, then it just makes you a "goody two-shoes" who appears to have nothing better to do that grass people up because YOU disagree. Can you not see that you just look like some wannabe detective who thinks he's cool by advertising the fact that he's a snitch? Good luck ever getting trusted by anyone again, ROFL! _____________
if u dont like the way ccp are doing their job then u could always email them with suggestions, they always like to hear from customers to help improve the way things are done, its called customer support for a reason. regards to ur opinion of the op, i think u will find its not a PERSONAL grudge, alot of us players dont appreciate finding macroers *where ever they are from* breaking EULA rules all over eve. and as for being a goodie 2 shoes, that really isnt the case, ccp ask for all users to report any instances of players breaking EULA rules. that way it helps to improve the gameplay of those who abide by them. and yes i hold a grudge against these macroers/farmers as do most the eve comunity that i have met because these macroers are helping certain people to gain an unfair advantage in the game for little to no effort when the rest of us play hard to make the same gains. rules and laws are in place for a reason, these macroers/farmers are blatently disregarding these rules and as part of the eve community it is our duty to stop them through reporting them. BTW TO THE OP....... i am in full support of wat u are doing, keep slowing down their progress and there is no harm in making some profit from their goodies just make sure u keep reporting them to ccp to keep ur actions legit
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Karlemgne
The Black Fleet
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Posted - 2007.06.15 19:13:00 -
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Originally by: Hellspawn01
Originally by: Zafriel Thats where your wrong, with respect to Chinese farmers; not many own their computers, most work in huge sweat shops for 12 hour shifts in return for a few dollars. When I was last in Foshan I saw one huge warehouse with over 1000 people in the one space playing mmorpgs, it was disgusting, it was dirty, extremely warm and stank....tbh it nearly made me vommit.
For someone who seems to despise chinese isk farmers you do know very little about them, Im pretty sure the vast majority of those isk farmers would like to have a haircut and live to the standards of the western countries.
They chose it that way. IŠve seen it aswell but they keep doing it. But thats not our problem. I will not go into this cuz its not allowed here to discuss politics.
But thats pretty much all irrelevant. A violation against the EULA is a violation. The person behind the char is irrelevant.
Of course, thus my invitation to everyone to actually READ the EULA.
Nobody actually does, but if you did, you'd see how the document is framed in such a way that YOU violate it everyday for doing very simple stuff.
-Karlemgne
Edited by: Ginger Magician on 16/03/2007 14:07:36 whereas those who constantly and deilberately exploit every possible aspect of the game mechanics get away scott free. |
Karlemgne
The Black Fleet
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Posted - 2007.06.15 19:14:00 -
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Originally by: voogru
Originally by: Areaulius Where did this "85% of people who play MMO's regularly violate the EULA that they never read, but these same people are always first to scream up and down about someone they don't like for violating the EULA" come from?
I think he pulled it out of you know where.
I actually work for a company that produces an MMO, so no, I didn't "pull it out of you know where." Nice try.
-Karlemgne
Edited by: Ginger Magician on 16/03/2007 14:07:36 whereas those who constantly and deilberately exploit every possible aspect of the game mechanics get away scott free. |
Karlemgne
The Black Fleet
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Posted - 2007.06.15 19:15:00 -
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Originally by: Leandro Salazar So when someone is doing something violating the EULA and detrimental to the game overall, we are supposed to be lenient as there is a real person behind the computer, yet when people that hurt noone get ganked in highsec and lose all their assets in one fell swoop we are supposed to laugh at them despite there being a real person behind the computer?
Yeah, sure. Sorry, but this macro-defender doesn't have all cookies on the same platter...
That isn't what I said. I'm not trying to "defend" anyone, just make people think about the things they do and say.
Again, CCP is WELL within their rights to remove players who are selling isk for real currency.
-Karlemgne
Edited by: Ginger Magician on 16/03/2007 14:07:36 whereas those who constantly and deilberately exploit every possible aspect of the game mechanics get away scott free. |
Karlemgne
The Black Fleet
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Posted - 2007.06.15 19:17:00 -
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Originally by: Methem
Originally by: Karlemgne Wow, congrats on conning someone out of their job. Good for you!
Yea, way to stop macros from ruining the game and inflating isk prices everywhere.
Originally by: Karlemgne
And, by-the-by, way to make all Americans look bad, buddy.
What?? I'm an American and this makes no sense.
Congrats SantaKlauz Be sure to update us on the macro pwnage
-Methem An American
Again, isk farming isn't a EULA violation. Even the transfer of currency through isk via GTCs isn't a violation of the EULA, its even encouraged.
If you really think that isk for dollars/euros ruins the game, you should ask CCP to shut down GTC sellers.
-Karlemgne
Edited by: Ginger Magician on 16/03/2007 14:07:36 whereas those who constantly and deilberately exploit every possible aspect of the game mechanics get away scott free. |
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Karlemgne
The Black Fleet
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Posted - 2007.06.15 19:18:00 -
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Originally by: voogru
Originally by: Leandro Salazar So when someone is doing something violating the EULA and detrimental to the game overall, we are supposed to be lenient as there is a real person behind the computer, yet when people that hurt noone get ganked in highsec and lose all their assets in one fell swoop we are supposed to laugh at them despite there being a real person behind the computer?
Yeah, sure. Sorry, but this macro-defender doesn't have all cookies on the same platter...
Because farmers have rights too.
Actually, farmers have MORE rights than players. Because thats the politically correct way!
*Sigh*
Edited by: Ginger Magician on 16/03/2007 14:07:36 whereas those who constantly and deilberately exploit every possible aspect of the game mechanics get away scott free. |
Karlemgne
The Black Fleet
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Posted - 2007.06.15 19:21:00 -
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Originally by: banner
Quote: I think CCP are doing a good enough job of that themselves with their "excellent customer service". To the OP - so you have a PERSONAL grudge against these people? Because if you don't, then it just makes you a "goody two-shoes" who appears to have nothing better to do that grass people up because YOU disagree. Can you not see that you just look like some wannabe detective who thinks he's cool by advertising the fact that he's a snitch? Good luck ever getting trusted by anyone again, ROFL! _____________
if u dont like the way ccp are doing their job then u could always email them with suggestions, they always like to hear from customers to help improve the way things are done, its called customer support for a reason. regards to ur opinion of the op, i think u will find its not a PERSONAL grudge, alot of us players dont appreciate finding macroers *where ever they are from* breaking EULA rules all over eve. and as for being a goodie 2 shoes, that really isnt the case, ccp ask for all users to report any instances of players breaking EULA rules. that way it helps to improve the gameplay of those who abide by them. and yes i hold a grudge against these macroers/farmers as do most the eve comunity that i have met because these macroers are helping certain people to gain an unfair advantage in the game for little to no effort when the rest of us play hard to make the same gains. rules and laws are in place for a reason, these macroers/farmers are blatently disregarding these rules and as part of the eve community it is our duty to stop them through reporting them. BTW TO THE OP....... i am in full support of wat u are doing, keep slowing down their progress and there is no harm in making some profit from their goodies just make sure u keep reporting them to ccp to keep ur actions legit
Again, Banner, you CAN trade cash for isk legally via the GTC system. Meaning, a legal way of "giving advantage" to those willing to pay more exists.
My participation in this thread was two-fold. One, I like it when people critically engage with things around them, even the MMO world of isk farming. Two, everyone should be aware of EULA violations... this means actually reading the EULA, which I encourage everyone to do.
-Karlemgne
Edited by: Ginger Magician on 16/03/2007 14:07:36 whereas those who constantly and deilberately exploit every possible aspect of the game mechanics get away scott free. |
Karlemgne
The Black Fleet
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Posted - 2007.06.15 19:23:00 -
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Originally by: Methem
Originally by: Karlemgne Wow, congrats on conning someone out of their job. Good for you!
Yea, way to stop macros from ruining the game and inflating isk prices everywhere.
Originally by: Karlemgne
And, by-the-by, way to make all Americans look bad, buddy.
What?? I'm an American and this makes no sense.
Congrats SantaKlauz Be sure to update us on the macro pwnage
-Methem An American
Well I guess if you want to perpetuate the stereotype of Americans being completely oblivious to anyone in the world but themselves, you have a point.
-Karlemgne
Edited by: Ginger Magician on 16/03/2007 14:07:36 whereas those who constantly and deilberately exploit every possible aspect of the game mechanics get away scott free. |
Karlemgne
The Black Fleet
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Posted - 2007.06.15 19:24:00 -
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Originally by: Areaulius
Originally by: Karlemgne
Also, I think the whole issue is rather humerous, as 85% of people who play MMOs regularly violate the EULA that they've never read, but these same people are always the first to scream up and down about banning someone they don't like for "violating the EULA.
-Karlemgne
Where did this "85% of people who play MMO's regularly violate the EULA that they never read, but these same people are always first to scream up and down about someone they don't like for violating the EULA" come from?
From three years employment in the video game industry, specifically MMO development.
-Karlemgne
Edited by: Ginger Magician on 16/03/2007 14:07:36 whereas those who constantly and deilberately exploit every possible aspect of the game mechanics get away scott free. |
Karlemgne
The Black Fleet
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Posted - 2007.06.15 19:28:00 -
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Originally by: Gaia Thorn Karlemgne I just have to ask is the air thin were you live or are you reffering to yourself when saying great way of making americans look dumb ?
So you think it's ok for *whatever country* isk farmer/macroers to do what they are doing since they "work" in a shop. Thats like saying hey it's ok that the colombian cocain cutters are just doing a job, i mean since they are in a "shop" under lights or works spaces ?
What they are doing is performing a illegal act breaking A rule that is stated in the game by the game designers. They are litteraly hurting CCP since the farming reduces the experience for the "real" players in the game.
It's not fun to be fresh of the pod plant and want to shoot your first roid just to find out a group of *insert country here* farmers/macroers just passed through cleaning out the entire belt(s).
Im sorry but they have it coming just like the rest of the criminals. He knows what he is doing is illegal and he is willing to risk it, then he should be willing to take the punishment for it aswell.
I live in the United States. I won't get dragged any further into the root politics of this discussion, other than saying, yeah, I don't hate poor cocca growers.
Furthermore, "isk farming" is not anything like the drug trade, my friend. See (again) isk transfer for cash occurs legally everyday. Go take a look at the sell orders forum... see all those "WTS 30 DAY GTC 180 million isk."
So your analogy is defunct.
-Karlemgne
Edited by: Ginger Magician on 16/03/2007 14:07:36 whereas those who constantly and deilberately exploit every possible aspect of the game mechanics get away scott free. |
Areaulius
Caldari Mad Mercs
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Posted - 2007.06.15 19:44:00 -
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Originally by: Karlemgne
I live in the United States.
-Karlemgne
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SantaKlauz
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Posted - 2007.06.15 22:04:00 -
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Yes CCP does support giving them RL money for tons of GTC, which is a bit crappy as if i had like say.....a movie star who played eve in my alliance he could tip the advantages ( jessica alba call me *winks*) but as far as the isk SELLERS go it is still violating the ELUA, and still causing problems in the game. which problems well for one infesting systems with macro-LIKE activitys ruining it for others to work in them, It gives birth to a criminal like activity in the game which is Sweatshop Masters and forcing people to work in crap conditions to make a living. It does need to be eliminated, and it DOES need to be constantly watched by CCP.
now how do i know their all chinese well I do not, I am not saying all are but the ones so far I have spoken to or delt with understand chinese simple text and a few have SAID they are from there when I spoke to them in private chat. :P
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banner
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Posted - 2007.06.15 22:10:00 -
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i have noticed that u keep assuming a lot if not all of the players on eve have not bothered to read the EULA. though u may be right in some cases i must tell u that as boring as i may sound i for one have read the EULA right the way through, though after 4 years of playing i probably dont remember alot of it and possibly do break some of the rules with out realising. mainly when i call my corp mates a bunch of useless ******* noobs. but thats besides the point. yes u are right about the gtc cards to a point. from wat i have gathered about gtc's (dont bother with them myself) is that a player actually purchases a gtc from ccp, thus profit then goes to ccp. that player then sells his gtc for isk from another player and makes his profit in game, not in rl. and this is legal because it is done through ccp with ccp in mind! the difference between gtc's and these farmers is that the farmers actually make lots of isk through sitting at a computer (or using a program) playing eve, the isk that they have made is then put up for sale on auction sites for rl cash, and when a player is stupid enough to buy the isk then the cash profit goes to the farmer not ccp which makes it against the EULA. i have nothing against people purchasing gtc's, they are putting their rl cash into ccp so that ccp can improve hardware and software, well done to them, as we are all aware, ccp have a few gameplay issues that we all hope they resolve, but wat game doesnt have an issue when u have over 30 thousand users all on the same server. i played wow, and it was hellish during peak time. to the op, keep the reports coming
p.s. if i have got anything about the gtc's wrong then do correct me, its the only way to learn
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Flinx Evenstar
Minmatar Spartan Industries Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2007.06.16 00:04:00 -
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I am posting to break up the obvious forum spamage form Karlemgne's 9 posts in a row
In this case it is quite clear the guy is chinese (.cn is China net extension) That being said, I agree it is unfair to label ALL isk farmers as Chinese.
No matter where they are from, selling isk for real life currency is a clear violation of ANY MMO EULA.
CCP has evidence here, how will they act...
ISK sellers generate a good turn over in new subscribers, so lets turn a blind eye, or...CCP come good on their promise to clean up the corruption in this game.
My money is on Pure Beautiful remaining in game, but that's just my opinion about how CCP operates Sig removed...coz like, you know sometimes I pirate...no, not pirating..err defending the gurista..yes that's the one |
Methem
The Hand of Mortis
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Posted - 2007.06.16 07:40:00 -
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The GTC system isnt a good idea in my opinion, but at least its CCP (creators of the game) who are getting something out of it.
Also, you talk about 85% of the people violating the EULA. These people arent being petitioned to have NOTHING done about it. The macroers KNOW they are breaking the rules. The players who break the rules without knowledge of doing so is completely off topic.
Also, how would you know that a macro takes a lot of time and effort? I used to macro in Ultima Online and would turn on the script before I went to sleep, to wake up 8hrs later with it still running.
Anyhow, all this spam about wether its right or wrong is just hijacking the OPs thread, so I'm not posting anymore about it. L8r
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SantaKlauz
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Posted - 2007.06.16 11:19:00 -
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Today I targeted one of the other corps operation inside FIX space....yet their WCS powers are impressive and their logoffski lvl 6 is VERY advanced. Yet i persisted in the logoff tatic and had chars rdy to login, this proved to be more effective than jump probe warp. OK I have a +24km and a +11km fitted totaling 3 points on the damage dealer, and +2 11km on the covert....I warp to a 87m probe hit off a 20 au on a raven YEY gonna get this one i think, i released drones and had blinkies on....GOT HIM locked, shields gone in 4 vollys of the nasty command ship hehe armor is 1/2 now and WTF warps to planet and as gm spiral told me "logged before i agressed him" I call BOL**** as he was in local for the 4-6 vollys i got into the raven and only vanished while in warp to his planet...*argues with GM Spiral a bit* ......(more ot come on response here) But seems logging off and on a alt is not working anymore and he SWEARS he logged once i uncloaked him (covert had sensor booster on and +2 points to quick agro) ok he has the logs i do not i leave it for him to review. anyways topic of the day is how many points to kill a isk farmer raven.....well it's not 5 ust me them rare WCS II like shin ra use to have, could this be isk farmers are fitting them (ba haha think they were nerfed to +1) anyways after some time ****ing them off royally like i do best...I seen more close 6 jumps so i go BINGO this nit didn't get the memo the isk hunters are in region and forgot to fit his +5-6 WCS's RAVEN DOWN! Ok one down 2,000 more to go...I proceed back to the annoying ones to **** them off even more, whats this i see FARM supplier in his impel filling their cans of ammo....nifty I have them bookmarked *warps to can* hehe HELLO impel meet sleipnir WTF a noob ship targeting my helios...OHNOES 6.3, 2.3 , 4.5 hits tear up the helios shields, I release the one drone domination pew pew...he goes down back to focus on the impel it's in structure.POP gets pwned ok now i will go back to the .4 he enters from to cut off the new raven i am sure is returning like clockwork..
*travels to a hot spot*....oh shinny 9by now i switched to a dictor and a recon) I see, not one but 2 jump in's what could they be *drops bubble* nice a purty CRANE inside the bubble with no fear I tackle it and drop 3 points, ah damn a abbadon uncloaks and locks the dictor *miss miss miss* I giggle and proceed to pod the crane....out comes the cans now i am rushing my alt to empire for his hauler and look in the can.. over a bil in loot.TY ION CORE!
tune in tomorrow for "adventures of the Deadly duo strike back. Isk farmer anilation pt.2 = the south"
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reallyobviousscout
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Posted - 2007.06.16 12:48:00 -
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the isk farmers can also use the GTC service to transfer billions of isk without ringing off the normal bells at CCP.
the guy buys the isk and a GTC with RL cash and gets the isk delivered via the GTC transfer service. how is that not wrong?
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Bagehi
Caldari Mean Corp
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Posted - 2007.06.16 14:21:00 -
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Karl, buddy, check the chat logs Santa posted. These guys are selling the isk for cash outright. You made a lot of valid points though. If these guys are macro mining, they are breaking the rules of the game. If these guys are selling isk directly for cash, they are breaking the rules of the game. I, personally, have nothing against having these guys mine out asteroids day-in and day-out, then use the isk to buy GTCs to resell for cash. It is part of the economy of Eve now.
The Great Depression was brought up in this thread (and the assumptions made based on that were rather off) if you want to see what economic upheaval is like (in a very small way), get rid of all those guys who work in isk farming sweat shops. It would probably ruin the game. I don't think there's too many players on here who would be willing to mine tritanium for 2 isk per unit in the quantities that the eve economy currently demands. Now imagine the rest of the mineral prices shooting through the roof. People complain constantly about the disparity in price between each of the different classes of ships and then the T2 stuff. That disparity is actually not that bad, the less isk farmers in the game, the greater that disparity becomes.
Why? For the same reason the repetitive jobs in 1st world countries move overseas. Repetitive work utilizes an easily replaceable workforce. Workers in wealthier nations have a higher cost of living and a higher standard of living. The standard of living falls as wages go up and thus prices go up. So, in the near-term, people from wealthy countries utilize the willingness of people with lower standards of living and cost of living to produce the products they consume at the prices they want. If you want to read some really wacky stuff, read what economists are saying about the trends in manufacturing jobs. I guess China's standard of living is rising at an increasing rate (it recently doubled from 6 years ago), so manufacturers are beginning to look to Africa.
Too many people with too little knowledge do too much talking.
So, if you didn't read anything else in this post, I will summarize:
Yes, the guys who talked to "SantaKlauz" violated the rules and should get the boot.
No - do NOT lump all the isk farmers together, they are an integral part of the Eve economy, and many actually operate within the rules. That is the problem facing CCP. If they stop GTC trading, the economy of Eve will go through a massive restructuring (which none of you want). |
Pindleskin
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.06.16 15:00:00 -
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I've read all this thread and still get the feeling that if anyone is found out to be buying ISK they should be the ones podded to oblivion.
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Taipan Gedscho
Muzzletov Gewaltski Inc.
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Posted - 2007.06.16 16:58:00 -
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Edited by: Taipan Gedscho on 16/06/2007 17:00:43
Originally by: Karlemgne That isn't what I said. I'm not trying to "defend" anyone, just make people think about the things they do and say.
yup. karl, its time that i tell you something: your posts are mostly quality work, you just use your brain, and have the ability to put your thoughts in rather clear words.
you get a lot of flak from people that just get you wrong, or dont have the... mental capabilities to understand what you actually are tying to say. its sad.
thanks for keeping your posting up, still. id just stop posting, rather than arguing with idiots
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SantaKlauz
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Posted - 2007.06.17 11:17:00 -
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Originally by: Pindleskin I've read all this thread and still get the feeling that if anyone is found out to be buying ISK they should be the ones podded to oblivion.
Well if you are refering to me letting him give me all the information to petition him you are confused and do not see the entire point in chating with pure beautiful. why i even tried to ALLOW him to dig his own hole is I assumed CCP would like a rock solid petition to review and look over to see if this network indeed sold isk in the past. Don't get me wrong I do not need isk my wallet is well above anything most have 9not to rub it in here) but seriously 16.5b is not too much isk to me personally, after all I am santaKlauz. but yes some will scream entrapment which is not the case. He expressed a strong desire to sell, i started collecting information to file the petition right away and spoke with as you see in the SS's a man who knows more of the subject than I. thus I asked general questions to SEE how he was selling so ccp had a place ot start the search..I asked a price to see for chits and giggles what they made, and finally I asked for a amount specefic to see if they delt large enough quanity to justify calling them a network....why? because I personally seen a char called FBi cargo cans at EVERY safespot i busted of the farmers before they cloaked TOTAL of a MASSIVE 19 systems, 45+ cans each seemed to be specific to a farmer some were 2-3 in a system and each farmer cloaked 100km off "his ammo can" total numbers of isk farmers I seen so far is over 24. so it is indeed interesting to see how well they operate. oh and for the blood thursty fans today I downed 3 cloaked ravens, 3 giant cans and 2 hoarders full of npc loot :)
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Sue Zee
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.06.17 15:12:00 -
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Originally by: Flinx Evenstar I am posting to break up the obvious forum spamage form Karlemgne's 9 posts in a row
In this case it is quite clear the guy is chinese (.cn is China net extension) That being said, I agree it is unfair to label ALL isk farmers as Chinese.
No matter where they are from, selling isk for real life currency is a clear violation of ANY MMO EULA.
CCP has evidence here, how will they act...
ISK sellers generate a good turn over in new subscribers, so lets turn a blind eye, or...CCP come good on their promise to clean up the corruption in this game.
My money is on Pure Beautiful remaining in game, but that's just my opinion about how CCP operates
Alot of ISK farmers buy GAMETIMECODES for there subs, Thats why gametime codes have gone up in price and allso becouse of isk for reallife money dropping in price.
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Commander Thrawn
Fluffy Rabbit Killers
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Posted - 2007.06.17 15:29:00 -
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Originally by: Karlemgne Wow, congrats on conning someone out of their job. Good for you!
I hope their kids go hungry and stuff.
-Karl
me too. keep at it YAAARRRRR
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Karlemgne
The Black Fleet
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Posted - 2007.06.17 16:45:00 -
[89]
Originally by: Sue Zee
Originally by: Flinx Evenstar I am posting to break up the obvious forum spamage form Karlemgne's 9 posts in a row
In this case it is quite clear the guy is chinese (.cn is China net extension) That being said, I agree it is unfair to label ALL isk farmers as Chinese.
No matter where they are from, selling isk for real life currency is a clear violation of ANY MMO EULA.
CCP has evidence here, how will they act...
ISK sellers generate a good turn over in new subscribers, so lets turn a blind eye, or...CCP come good on their promise to clean up the corruption in this game.
My money is on Pure Beautiful remaining in game, but that's just my opinion about how CCP operates
Alot of ISK farmers buy GAMETIMECODES for there subs, Thats why gametime codes have gone up in price and allso becouse of isk for reallife money dropping in price.
Mostly its because the "price" of third part isk has been falling.
-Karlemgne
Edited by: Ginger Magician on 16/03/2007 14:07:36 whereas those who constantly and deilberately exploit every possible aspect of the game mechanics get away scott free. |
Ket Halpak
Cold-Fury Southern Cross Alliance
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Keep killing those farmers! Eve has a strict no ISK for RL Cash policy and it is good (and entertaining) to see the players enforcing it :) _ Check out my blog at RantingsofaCarebear.blogspot.com Privateers: Those who don't adapt become victims of harsh irony |
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