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Hunin
Minmatar EVE Empowerment League Navy Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.06.29 21:02:00 -
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I am a US isk farmer. I rat in the very best 0.0 space (thanks IAC) to make isk so I can pay for my accounts. I always fit a cloak so I am not ganked by random hostiles.
The Chinese need to farm isk like all other EVE players. CCP has never said isk farming is against the EULA. Until they say so, I will continue farming isk for the betterment of my corp and alliance. I am proud to support corporations of all nationalities trying to isk farm their way to riches in EVE.
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voogru
Gallente Massive Damage
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Posted - 2007.06.29 21:03:00 -
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Edited by: voogru on 29/06/2007 21:03:38
Originally by: Ace Frehley I personally think it is hilarius that the pay IAC to rat in Delve/fountain I mean, I think of us must be yellous on mr IAC leader for that deal, get isk from farmers that dont even farm in your own space, but instaed in ya worst enemys.
CanŠt stop laugh .....
Please take note I do not care off of profiting off of farmers. What I do not like is stonewalling efforts to get them banned for ISK farming, and allowing them to profit.
Originally by: Hunin I am a US isk farmer. I rat in the very best 0.0 space (thanks IAC) to make isk so I can pay for my accounts. I always fit a cloak so I am not ganked by random hostiles.
Nothing wrong with that.
There is however a problem with funneling money to random people who then sell the ISK and spam us all saying they have great deals on ISK. I doubt you purposly claim scams on contracts for nothing in return.
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Alts Are
bypsassing the forum rules.
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Posted - 2007.06.29 21:05:00 -
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Im sure Bob will be happy to know that IAC has control of Delve now.
btw post with your main. *Who cares, i sure dont* |
Gloomrake Ono
Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.06.29 21:06:00 -
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We dont mind....free Raven mods.
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Tenebron
Dark Moon Enterprise
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Posted - 2007.06.29 21:09:00 -
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Good job dude, i respect your efforts in fighting this plague that affects us all. There is no valid reason for any alliance/corp/entity in this game to support farmers. The minute you tolerate them you become as guilty as they are. And for those who contest your credibility....well, New Players Section is that way As a side note, maby CCP will FINALLY remove cloaks from bs/bc/hacs and let us deal with the farmers in pew pew style.
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VileLust
Minmatar Insidious Existence Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.06.29 21:11:00 -
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Edited by: VileLust on 29/06/2007 21:10:44 This Buescrew you speak of is a massive alt front for people in empire who are sick of mission running. They can join this 'front' with a chinese looking name to get protection from us. They then go into FIX/BoB space(Delve) and farm ISK in enemy space. This crap about isk farmers and whatnot is tinhattery... its just a way for random empire folks to make money. They pay us, we say "sure! go farm BoB's officer spawns!".
sorry IAC I dropped the ball =[
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Duke Grail
Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.06.29 21:11:00 -
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isk farming is fine... they pay IAC a fairly large ammount to farm Delve / Querious... that's right... we're renting out Delve / Querious.
There's lots of people who Farm NPC's all the time. Some peoples goal in this game is to "make loads of isk" that's how they play.
If you think they are breaking the EULA by selling isk, file a petition, Posting on this forum does nothing. if not.. STFU and get a life. This thread is useless.
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Ace Frehley
Minmatar Trinity Nova KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.29 21:12:00 -
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My point is:
If they would farm they would pay mr bob? And I havent seen bob whine about it, so they donŠt care, and if they wanna npc in a system where farmers, it is just to move in their main and alt, and the farmer will run..
Or IŠm I wrong? _______________________________________________
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Gloomrake Ono
Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.06.29 21:13:00 -
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Originally by: Duke Grail isk farming is fine... they pay IAC a fairly large ammount to farm Delve / Querious... that's right... we're renting out Delve / Querious.
There's lots of people who Farm NPC's all the time. Some peoples goal in this game is to "make loads of isk" that's how they play.
If you think they are breaking the EULA by selling isk, file a petition, Posting on this forum does nothing. if not.. STFU and get a life. This thread is useless.
You miss the point, there is nothing wrong with npc'ing, OP is implying they are selling isk for cash.
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Divus
Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.06.29 21:14:00 -
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i kill isk-farmers alot my self and i do see your points but i want you to remember, that its not only them selling ISK for real money but also players paying cash for ISK, so there's a reciprocal dependence and u cant just go and blame one side to be 'the problem'. -------------------------------------------------
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Hunin
Minmatar EVE Empowerment League Navy Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.06.29 21:15:00 -
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Originally by: Hunin I am a US isk farmer. I rat in the very best 0.0 space (thanks IAC) to make isk so I can pay for my accounts. I always fit a cloak so I am not ganked by random hostiles.
Nothing wrong with that.
There is however a problem with funneling money to random people who then sell the ISK and spam us all saying they have great deals on ISK. I doubt you purposly claim scams on contracts for nothing in return.
Well, if you find someone trying to sell you ISK for RL money, you should report it to CCP. However, I do claim contracts for nothing in return all the time. I also make a lot of contracts for nothing in return. It is the same thing I did with the escrow system.
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Hellaciouss
Genco Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.06.29 21:15:00 -
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Originally by: Gloomrake Ono
Originally by: Duke Grail isk farming is fine... they pay IAC a fairly large ammount to farm Delve / Querious... that's right... we're renting out Delve / Querious.
There's lots of people who Farm NPC's all the time. Some peoples goal in this game is to "make loads of isk" that's how they play.
If you think they are breaking the EULA by selling isk, file a petition, Posting on this forum does nothing. if not.. STFU and get a life. This thread is useless.
You miss the point, there is nothing wrong with npc'ing, OP is implying they are selling isk for cash.
Then petition those who you think are selling isk?
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Sokratesz
Paradox v2.0 Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.06.29 21:16:00 -
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Originally by: Gloomrake Ono
You miss the point, there is nothing wrong with npc'ing, OP is implying they are selling isk for cash.
And how exactly is IAC to blame for that, in-game?
Teh way they play is legitimate. Theyre not macroers, they dont use exploits. They NPC. Alot. What they do with the cash afterwards is their business.
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Gnulpie
Minmatar Miner Tech
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Posted - 2007.06.29 21:16:00 -
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So what?
If you have solid proof of anything then write CCP and petition it and include all your proves.
I don't think that anything else would help and it would be a shame if it would - because using the mob for someones own goals is always bad.
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Duke Grail
Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.06.29 21:16:00 -
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Originally by: Gloomrake Ono
Originally by: Duke Grail isk farming is fine... they pay IAC a fairly large ammount to farm Delve / Querious... that's right... we're renting out Delve / Querious.
There's lots of people who Farm NPC's all the time. Some peoples goal in this game is to "make loads of isk" that's how they play.
If you think they are breaking the EULA by selling isk, file a petition, Posting on this forum does nothing. if not.. STFU and get a life. This thread is useless.
You miss the point, there is nothing wrong with npc'ing, OP is implying they are selling isk for cash.
if he is making such an implication it has no place on this forum and he should file a petition.
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James 315
Yet Another CAOD-Inspired 1-Man Alt Corp
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Posted - 2007.06.29 21:19:00 -
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Probity, sincerity, candor, conviction, the sense of duty, are things which may become hideous when wrongly directed. -Victor Hugo
voogru, do you enjoy French literature? I invite you to read the classic novel, Les Miserables. The antagonist is an inspector named Javert who pursues the hero for decades due to his crime: stealing a loaf of bread. Ultimately Javert's obsessive quest for "justice" led to his own destruction.
I implore you to learn from the example of Javert and put aside your pitiless vendetta against IAC.
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Dark Shikari
Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.06.29 21:19:00 -
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So basically IAC endorses 23/7 sweatshop ISK farming.
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Tenebron
Dark Moon Enterprise
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Posted - 2007.06.29 21:20:00 -
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Originally by: Duke Grail isk farming is fine... they pay IAC a fairly large ammount to farm Delve / Querious... that's right... we're renting out Delve / Querious.
There's lots of people who Farm NPC's all the time. Some peoples goal in this game is to "make loads of isk" that's how they play.
If you think they are breaking the EULA by selling isk, file a petition, Posting on this forum does nothing. if not.. STFU and get a life. This thread is useless.
IAC trying to derail the thread to save face 4tl... This topic is about farming isk TO SALE FOR RL CASH. Stop pretending you cant understand that and try to spin it.
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Manfred Sideous
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.06.29 21:21:00 -
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Holding my breath to give the appearance im surprised. Tyrrax is a tool who without ET would be in empire mining.
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voogru
Gallente Massive Damage
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Posted - 2007.06.29 21:21:00 -
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Edited by: voogru on 29/06/2007 21:23:17
Originally by: VileLust This Buescrew you speak of is a massive alt front for people in empire who are sick of mission running. They can join this 'front' with a chinese looking name to get protection from us. They then go into FIX/BoB space(Delve) and farm ISK in enemy space. This crap about isk farmers and whatnot is tinhattery... its just a way for random empire folks to make money. They pay us, we say "sure! go farm BoB's officer spawns!".
sorry IAC I dropped the ball =[
Oh and as for whoever posted this.. the funny contracting is simple to explain. They are new to the game, being carebears from empire, and make wrong contracts a lot. They also like to share items, so that explains why you see the same items going back and forth. Buesrew are great folks who simply want to make money outside of the boring empire mission running.
Testing contracts? over a 1 month period? yeah right.
Originally by: Hellaciouss Then petition those who you think are selling isk?
You can start by giving me a member list of buesrew.
Originally by: Sokratesz And how exactly is IAC to blame for that, in-game?
Teh way they play is legitimate. Theyre not macroers, they dont use exploits. They NPC. Alot. What they do with the cash afterwards is their business.
IAC knows full well what their intentions are, and then stonewall me so I can't investigate them on my own, because if I do, bad stuff will probably happen to their little cash cow.
Originally by: James 315 voogru, do you enjoy French literature? I invite you to read the classic novel, Les Miserables. The antagonist is an inspector named Javert who pursues the hero for decades due to his crime: stealing a loaf of bread. Ultimately Javert's obsessive quest for "justice" led to his own destruction.
I implore you to learn from the example of Javert and put aside your pitiless vendetta against IAC.
Hey! I've seen that, but it was a movie. Pretty good.
No IAC didn't steal a loaf of bread, they are knowingly harboring people who are making the game worse and worse over a period of time. I gave them time to make things right, they didnt. Which is why your reading this.
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James 315
Yet Another CAOD-Inspired 1-Man Alt Corp
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Posted - 2007.06.29 21:23:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari So basically IAC endorses 23/7 sweatshop ISK farming.
How anyone could read this thread and come away with that impression is beyond me.
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Traxio Nacho
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.06.29 21:23:00 -
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Originally by: Duke Grail isk farming is fine... they pay IAC a fairly large ammount to farm Delve / Querious... that's right... we're renting out Delve / Querious.
There's lots of people who Farm NPC's all the time. Some peoples goal in this game is to "make loads of isk" that's how they play.
If you think they are breaking the EULA by selling isk, file a petition, Posting on this forum does nothing. if not.. STFU and get a life. This thread is useless.
Think the question is, is the Isk going into the alliance or straight into Tyrrax's own pocket like the other "back handers" he's taken I do hope it is going into the alliance considering the alliance all want them kicked out.
I do wonder why they are paying him to stay in the alliance when they go npc in hostile space surely they would be better off not paying tyrrax anything?
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Torshin
Prophets Of a Damned Universe
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Posted - 2007.06.29 21:25:00 -
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while this stuff about IAC defending the ISK farmers they are sending to Delve is all good and funny. I think the greatest part of this entire thread was James stating that whether or not a person is telling the true depends soley on the use of the smiley face. I think that he is the smartest man ever.
Offical Tardz Poo-litical Anal-yst Backdoor Bandit - Unofficial leader of the new 'Post with your main or STFU' campaign. |
BlackHorizon
Caldari Dark Knights of Deneb Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.06.29 21:27:00 -
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I don't think IAC standings are helping buesrew avoid death.
Still rather silly of IAC to let them in their alliance, in my opinion.
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James 315
Yet Another CAOD-Inspired 1-Man Alt Corp
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Posted - 2007.06.29 21:29:00 -
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Originally by: Torshin while this stuff about IAC defending the ISK farmers they are sending to Delve is all good and funny. I think the greatest part of this entire thread was James stating that whether or not a person is telling the true depends soley on the use of the smiley face. I think that he is the smartest man ever.
I didn't say that. I simply said that it was a factor. The jocularity of the smiley in use has a direct bearing upon whether or not it was an official confession.
Take a good look at the smiley. Note the bright, eager eyes, the widely-drawn, tooth-baring grin, the upturned corners of his mouth... This is a smiley that invites you to join his mirth, not identify his remorse. It is clearly an emoticon unsuitable for use in a confession of guilt, and entirely consistent with a joke. Hence, not a confession.
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PHPR Freighter
Minmatar PTS Industries United Corporations Against Macros
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Posted - 2007.06.29 21:30:00 -
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I agree with OP about Tyrax. I asked him about it and he knew the history of the CEO and that he was very busy. Either I got him at a bad time, or he is trying to get out of a convo.
/signed OP
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Duke Grail
Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.06.29 21:32:00 -
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Originally by: Tenebron
Originally by: Duke Grail isk farming is fine... they pay IAC a fairly large ammount to farm Delve / Querious... that's right... we're renting out Delve / Querious.
There's lots of people who Farm NPC's all the time. Some peoples goal in this game is to "make loads of isk" that's how they play.
If you think they are breaking the EULA by selling isk, file a petition, Posting on this forum does nothing. if not.. STFU and get a life. This thread is useless.
IAC trying to derail the thread to save face 4tl... This topic is about farming isk TO SALE FOR RL CASH. Stop pretending you cant understand that and try to spin it.
If it's about selling isk for cash, file a petition... this forum isn't the place to discuss exploits or breaches of the EULA.
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Orree
Gallente Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.06.29 21:39:00 -
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Originally by: UGWidowmaker ye ye ye and all other alliances do it too. can we move on ? <snip>
No they don't.
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Riley Craven
Caldari Copacetic Corporation
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Posted - 2007.06.29 21:39:00 -
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Originally by: Duke Grail
Originally by: Tenebron
Originally by: Duke Grail isk farming is fine... they pay IAC a fairly large ammount to farm Delve / Querious... that's right... we're renting out Delve / Querious.
There's lots of people who Farm NPC's all the time. Some peoples goal in this game is to "make loads of isk" that's how they play.
If you think they are breaking the EULA by selling isk, file a petition, Posting on this forum does nothing. if not.. STFU and get a life. This thread is useless.
IAC trying to derail the thread to save face 4tl... This topic is about farming isk TO SALE FOR RL CASH. Stop pretending you cant understand that and try to spin it.
If it's about selling isk for cash, file a petition... this forum isn't the place to discuss exploits or breaches of the EULA.
Actually its the best forum for this discussion. IAC is afterall a very well known allaince. A discussion of this nature could hurt the IAC image.
But lets see if you apply the same standards to everyone else... by your standards the BoB threads about having contacts with dev's dont belong here either... whats your stance on the issue.
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voogru
Gallente Massive Damage
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Posted - 2007.06.29 21:43:00 -
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Edited by: voogru on 29/06/2007 21:42:27
Originally by: Riley Craven Actually its the best forum for this discussion. IAC is afterall a very well known allaince. A discussion of this nature could hurt the IAC image.
I wish it didn't come to this, I had respect for Tyrrax and I didn't want to hurt the image of IAC but he kind of left me with no choice.
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