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Selinate
569
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Posted - 2012.01.08 18:39:00 -
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Ocih wrote:LOL, yes low sec alt, CCP should nerf high sec incursions so you have an advantage.
Lets also be very clear.
There is no hard in EVE There is no hard in EVE There is no hard in EVE There is no hard in EVE
Say it with me?
You can or you can't. Plain and ******* simple. Once you know how to do something you can do it a million times. It's the flaw of computer code. There is nothing CCP can do about it. Stop crying
High sec ISK farmers will still sit in high sec and farm ISK. They won't come to low sec and be your cow. They are Alts, you know that, I know that. Likely Alts from your own alliances, deal with it.
....Low sec alt?
FFS you're retar.ded.... |
Ocih
Space Mermaids
37
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Posted - 2012.01.08 18:41:00 -
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Selinate wrote:Ocih wrote:LOL, yes low sec alt, CCP should nerf high sec incursions so you have an advantage.
Lets also be very clear.
There is no hard in EVE There is no hard in EVE There is no hard in EVE There is no hard in EVE
Say it with me?
You can or you can't. Plain and ******* simple. Once you know how to do something you can do it a million times. It's the flaw of computer code. There is nothing CCP can do about it. Stop crying
High sec ISK farmers will still sit in high sec and farm ISK. They won't come to low sec and be your cow. They are Alts, you know that, I know that. Likely Alts from your own alliances, deal with it. ....Low sec alt? FFS you're retar.ded....
Feel free to ignore everything else I said, even though it's true. High sec people do Level 4's because they can solo them. Low and Null sec people do Incursions. In all Sec space. Denial will fix EVE.
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Selinate
569
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Posted - 2012.01.08 18:43:00 -
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Ocih wrote:Selinate wrote:Ocih wrote:LOL, yes low sec alt, CCP should nerf high sec incursions so you have an advantage.
Lets also be very clear.
There is no hard in EVE There is no hard in EVE There is no hard in EVE There is no hard in EVE
Say it with me?
You can or you can't. Plain and ******* simple. Once you know how to do something you can do it a million times. It's the flaw of computer code. There is nothing CCP can do about it. Stop crying
High sec ISK farmers will still sit in high sec and farm ISK. They won't come to low sec and be your cow. They are Alts, you know that, I know that. Likely Alts from your own alliances, deal with it. ....Low sec alt? FFS you're retar.ded.... Feel free to ignore everything else I said, even though it's true. High sec people do Level 4's because they can solo them. Low and Null sec people do Incursions. In all Sec space. Denial will fix EVE.
The only one in denial here is you... |
adopt
Enlightened Industries Test Alliance Please Ignore
226
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Posted - 2012.01.08 19:23:00 -
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Ocih wrote:LOL, yes low sec alt, CCP should nerf high sec incursions so you have an advantage.
Lets also be very clear.
There is no hard in EVE There is no hard in EVE There is no hard in EVE There is no hard in EVE
Say it with me?
You can or you can't. Plain and ******* simple. Once you know how to do something you can do it a million times. It's the flaw of computer code. There is nothing CCP can do about it. Stop crying
High sec ISK farmers will still sit in high sec and farm ISK. They won't come to low sec and be your cow. They are Alts, you know that, I know that. Likely Alts from your own alliances, deal with it.
I use my multitude of alts to run both hisec/lowsec/nullsec incursions, I actively PVP. I *used* to solely run incursions but it got boring so I use my alts for jewing and I pvp on this toon. Not everyone's cup of tea is low/null sec, only those with competence can actually survive there. So can you stop complaining hurr hurr nerf incursions, if you do not know a damned thing about them. Shadoo > Always remember to fit Cynosural Field Generator I, have 450 Liquid Ozone in your cargo and convo a friendly Pandemic Legion member if you have a capital or super capital ship tackled. |
Ocih
Space Mermaids
37
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Posted - 2012.01.08 19:28:00 -
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adopt wrote:Ocih wrote:LOL, yes low sec alt, CCP should nerf high sec incursions so you have an advantage.
Lets also be very clear.
There is no hard in EVE There is no hard in EVE There is no hard in EVE There is no hard in EVE
Say it with me?
You can or you can't. Plain and ******* simple. Once you know how to do something you can do it a million times. It's the flaw of computer code. There is nothing CCP can do about it. Stop crying
High sec ISK farmers will still sit in high sec and farm ISK. They won't come to low sec and be your cow. They are Alts, you know that, I know that. Likely Alts from your own alliances, deal with it. I use my multitude of alts to run both hisec/lowsec/nullsec incursions, I actively PVP. I *used* to solely run incursions but it got boring so I use my alts for jewing and I pvp on this toon. Not everyone's cup of tea is low/null sec, only those with competence can actually survive there. So can you stop complaining hurr hurr nerf incursions, if you do not know a damned thing about them.
I don't do Incursions. Nerf it in to the ground. make them another piece of worthless high sec content, you seem to think i have some investment here. Rather fail of you.
For that matter I haven't undocked in 2 months. If I follow you your EVE prescriptions, CCP should just close the game down. I do it, everyone else must too.
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Hungry Eyes
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
322
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Posted - 2012.01.08 21:22:00 -
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100mill in an hour is not much. you should trying doing nullsec exploration. lots of risk, but you make way more than that. |
Jenshae Chiroptera
407
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Posted - 2012.01.08 22:03:00 -
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Crosi Wesdo wrote:Test / goons can be seen running low sec incursions. These incursions are normally run without issue. Occasionally the test guys fall for a tarp. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdWzTcPiMqIThey are getting wise now though :) Take 7 zealots and 3 guards and they will prob not bother you. and most small gangs shouldnt be a worry. And scout. 15mil every 6 minutes on vanguards. That is pretty good isk.
I didn't get that video. It was just some things flashing on over view, a one sided conversation and some flashing and sparkling graphics effects.
I wish more people would voice over with commentary or explanations like some of the Rooks and Kings videos. Those are well done.
Falin Whalen wrote:met worst wrote:Lady Spank wrote:...Cowards stay in highsec... If the choice is between being a coward in highsec (and my own boss) or a sheep bleating for their supper working for an RMT lord, I know what I'd rather be. For some people the choice is: be a bleating sheep, or a principled starving homeless man. It is nice to have priciples when you are fat, happy, and have a roof over your head.
When change comes from the bottom it usually results in blood shed.
One way to help the poor would be to introduce a stipend that they get for the rest of their lives if a couple voluntarily present themselves for sterilisation after their first two children. This would help to keep the population stable, "consolidate" it if you will, put more money into the hands of the poor to feed and educate their children, whilst taking pressure of the government and having less mouths for them to feed. Ideas and stuff EVE - the game of sand castles, either building them or kicking them down. |
Ira Theos
Viziam Amarr Empire
29
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Posted - 2012.01.09 00:55:00 -
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Falin Whalen wrote:met worst wrote:Lady Spank wrote:...Cowards stay in highsec... If the choice is between being a coward in highsec (and my own boss) or a sheep bleating for their supper working for an RMT lord, I know what I'd rather be. For some people the choice is: be a bleating sheep, or a principled starving homeless man. It is nice to have priciples when you are fat, happy, and have a roof over your head.
Maybe so, but if that is your choice, you are still a bleating sheep, and that is all. |
Ghoest
239
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Posted - 2012.01.09 03:30:00 -
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Lady Spank wrote:Some people run low sec incursions because they enjoy the opportunity for PVP that they present. Cowards stay in high sec with the rest of the scrubs.
If you think there is too much money to be made, or too many people running them then do something different. It's rather hypocritical to complain about how much money they make when you happily run them yourself. I assume you are complaining about the ISK rewarded, your rant was pretty incoherent.
You have made the common mistake of conflating bravery with stupidity and thrill seeking.
Please go wash your brain out with harsh soap. Wherever You Went - Here You Are |
Brujo Loco
Brujeria Teologica
314
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Posted - 2012.01.09 03:57:00 -
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Lady Spank wrote:Some people run low sec incursions because they enjoy the opportunity for PVP that they present. Cowards stay in high sec with the rest of the scrubs.
If you think there is too much money to be made, or too many people running them then do something different. It's rather hypocritical to complain about how much money they make when you happily run them yourself. I assume you are complaining about the ISK rewarded, your rant was pretty incoherent.
Nope, I can equate the rant to a man that after selling his body made more in an hour of anal sex than what he did in an honest , tax paying job in a month, and felt dirty yet oddly aroused but angry at the stupidity of normal societal conventions plus the clash between internal moral compass versus pragmatism.
You can call it guilt in some, righteous anger or primal instincts in others. I equate it to the moment Kirk was in the Nexus and said "It's not real". There was no challenge or at least an amount of danger or any feeling of accomplishment or any sense whatsoever of anything.
Some people proceed to sell their bodies for the rest of their lives, others see the stupidity of complacency and self limits and vent their anger loudly and like Kirk decided to leave the Nexus forever even if it meant his death, because he died doing something actually challenging and REAL (to him anyway)
It has nothing to do with PVP, it's about the absurdity of how pay rates are in Hi sec yet low sec is almost the same, it's not logical and not well thought out, it doesnt escalate and shows a broken mechanic that annoys some people due to their very own psychological quirks.
Other people actually just like gaining the LOL-ISK like that in Hi-Sec and happily gobble up the Iskies.
Don't blame him/her/it , blame CCP.
Also reflect on the possibility CCP actually wants people with LOL isk to make them purchase more and more plex since perhaps they discovered they make more selling plexes than flat out sub rates.
If that happens to be true, then dont blame CCP, congratulate them on finding a way of earning more RL money.
Anyway, I like apple pie. Inner Sayings of BrujoLoco: http://eve-files.com/sig/brujoloco |
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Selinate
571
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Posted - 2012.01.09 13:51:00 -
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Ocih wrote:
I don't do Incursions. Nerf it in to the ground. make them another piece of worthless high sec content, you seem to think i have some investment here. Rather fail of you.
For that matter I haven't undocked in 2 months. If I follow you your EVE prescriptions, CCP should just close the game down. I do it, everyone else must too.
And you just come back to the Eve forums to randomly ***** like a two year old?
Unsubscribe already. At least try and gain some semblance of being a person who has a life. |
Barakkus
1480
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Posted - 2012.01.09 16:29:00 -
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okst666 wrote:Klown Walk wrote:You can make that amount of isk in a t1 frigate in low sec with abit of luck. In an incursion you do not even need luck...just a few basilisks and 3 battleships will do. But there are 2 other MAJOR Problems with incursions. a) It takes ages to find a fleet b) There are way to less Vanguards for all the people who want to fly them...An Incursion-System easily goes up to 400 people in lots of fleets and you warp from site to site only to see it is allready occupied... once you find a free one, you might be lucky and be able to do it uncontested... But most of the time some idiots think it is funny to contest and shoot the targets.
These are all personal problems, they aren't issues for people that actually do something about it.
Selinate wrote: I want to fly assaults/HQ's, but have trouble finding fleets for them because sometimes a fleet isn't even up for either. That, or the fleet is a shield fleet, and my shield skills aren't good enough to do that yet.
So train to shield tank and stop whining.
Hungry Eyes wrote:100mill in an hour is not much. you should trying doing nullsec exploration. lots of risk, but you make way more than that.
This ^^, a friend of mine has been doing null sec sites lately with one or two other people and making a couple bill for a few hours worth of work. Incursions pale in comparison to isk/hr. http://youtu.be/yytbDZrw1jc |
Ocih
Space Mermaids
38
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Posted - 2012.01.09 17:09:00 -
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Selinate wrote:Ocih wrote:
I don't do Incursions. Nerf it in to the ground. make them another piece of worthless high sec content, you seem to think i have some investment here. Rather fail of you.
For that matter I haven't undocked in 2 months. If I follow you your EVE prescriptions, CCP should just close the game down. I do it, everyone else must too.
And you just come back to the Eve forums to randomly ***** like a two year old? Unsubscribe already. At least try and gain some semblance of being a person who has a life.
Flames and personal attacks. That will get you the forum superstar badge.
Back to the start now, High sec carebears don't do Incursions, they do lv 4 missions because they can't solo Incursions. You seem bent on ignoring that so I'm just going to parrot it a few times.
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J3ssica Alba
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
69
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Posted - 2012.01.09 17:16:00 -
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If i get 1 isk everytime there is a nerf incursion thread I'd be richer than Chribba |
Wacktopia
Noir.
138
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Posted - 2012.01.09 17:44:00 -
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Confirming a slow hand clap for the current situation of hisec war-decs combined with the ISK-printing machine that is Vanguards.
CCP should start jumping some staff-piloted Revnants in to reap some Mach / Vindi tears. I hear they are sweet. . |
Obsidian Hawk
RONA Corporation RONA Directorate
740
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Posted - 2012.01.09 18:13:00 -
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iirc low sec incursion especailly vans pay out nearly 20 mill for each site. |
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CCP Greyscale
C C P C C P Alliance
502
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Posted - 2012.01.09 18:17:00 -
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Hi everyone,
We're in the process of scheduling some developer time to review the Incursion content, and make adjustments as needed. We've got a stack of feedback from the CSM, and we'll hopefully be blogging about it in the near future.
Thanks, -Greyscale |
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Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
283
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Posted - 2012.01.09 18:26:00 -
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CCP Greyscale wrote:Hi everyone,
We're in the process of scheduling some developer time to review the Incursion content, and make adjustments as needed. We've got a stack of feedback from the CSM, and we'll hopefully be blogging about it in the near future.
Thanks, -Greyscale Man CCP... you guys have a lot on your plate lately. I'm already getting excited about the next expansion. All GëíGêçGëí Ships | GëíGêçGëí - sñÜpüÅpü«sÑçsªÖpü¬péópéñpâåpâá | <-- Links to ShowInfo in-game
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mkint
604
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Posted - 2012.01.09 18:36:00 -
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CCP Greyscale wrote:Hi everyone,
We're in the process of scheduling some developer time to review the Incursion content, and make adjustments as needed. We've got a stack of feedback from the CSM, and we'll hopefully be blogging about it in the near future.
Thanks, -Greyscale You mean your CSM that wants to reduce the resources that any potential competitors may acquire? Yes, let's develop the game so that your CSMs stay rich and their alliances in control.
EVE: If your alliance doesn't have a member on the CSM, don't bother playing. |
Letrange
Red Horizon Inc Cascade Imminent
35
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Posted - 2012.01.09 18:46:00 -
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CCP Greyscale wrote:Hi everyone,
We're in the process of scheduling some developer time to review the Incursion content, and make adjustments as needed. We've got a stack of feedback from the CSM, and we'll hopefully be blogging about it in the near future.
Thanks, -Greyscale So, what you're saying is that the CSM (which consists of prety much only 0.0 leaders) was bitching that their pilots were up in high sec running incursions instead of being in their fleets in 0.0 like they want. I predict an incoming hard nerf since the squeaky whines are coming from the CSM this time. |
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Jack bubu
GK inc. Pandemic Legion
267
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Posted - 2012.01.09 18:50:00 -
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mkint wrote:CCP Greyscale wrote:Hi everyone,
We're in the process of scheduling some developer time to review the Incursion content, and make adjustments as needed. We've got a stack of feedback from the CSM, and we'll hopefully be blogging about it in the near future.
Thanks, -Greyscale You mean your CSM that wants to reduce the resources that any potential competitors may acquire? Yes, let's develop the game so that your CSMs stay rich and their alliances in control. EVE: If your alliance doesn't have a member on the CSM, don't bother playing. Just biomass your characters allready. noone wants to read your gibberish |
Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
283
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Posted - 2012.01.09 18:51:00 -
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mkint wrote:CCP Greyscale wrote:Hi everyone,
We're in the process of scheduling some developer time to review the Incursion content, and make adjustments as needed. We've got a stack of feedback from the CSM, and we'll hopefully be blogging about it in the near future.
Thanks, -Greyscale You mean your CSM that wants to reduce the resources that any potential competitors may acquire? Yes, let's develop the game so that your CSMs stay rich and their alliances in control. EVE: If your alliance doesn't have a member on the CSM, don't bother playing. WTF are you talking about? I'm not fan of the CSM principal reps atm, but I don't think this is accurate at all. Most of the CSMs represent big alliances, yes, but what are those alliances actually doing, exactly? A whole lot of NOTHING from what I've seen. PL used to be a major player in sov warfare and now they just float around looking for fights seemingly arbitrarily. The Goons are just screwing with miners in empire and practicing random acts of asshattery. TEST just bombs around null laying siege on random corps for no apparent reason and then forgetting about them... I've never seen the alliances of EvE as apathetic to sov as they are right now. It's not about REMOVING resources... it's about distributing them in non-conformal and unique ways. It's about giveing alliances a REASON to fight. They don't want to deny anyone anything necessarily. They want to tighten up the allocation of resources to keep alliances from sprawling. If a finite amount of high-quality resources are in a few systems, and those systems support the alliance, than the thinking goes there will be an upper limit to how far laterally an alliance will sprawl before the diminishing returns at the periphery of alliance controlled space cause corps to revolt against their keepers! If CCP were to make the resources something that can be sustainability harvested OR gutted for a quick payday and than depleted, alliances may form that just roll around and crush others. Incursions have nothing to do with it. At all. You're way off. All GëíGêçGëí Ships | GëíGêçGëí - sñÜpüÅpü«sÑçsªÖpü¬péópéñpâåpâá | <-- Links to ShowInfo in-game
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mkint
604
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Posted - 2012.01.09 19:06:00 -
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Gogela wrote:mkint wrote:CCP Greyscale wrote:Hi everyone,
We're in the process of scheduling some developer time to review the Incursion content, and make adjustments as needed. We've got a stack of feedback from the CSM, and we'll hopefully be blogging about it in the near future.
Thanks, -Greyscale You mean your CSM that wants to reduce the resources that any potential competitors may acquire? Yes, let's develop the game so that your CSMs stay rich and their alliances in control. EVE: If your alliance doesn't have a member on the CSM, don't bother playing. WTF are you talking about? I'm not fan of the CSM principal reps atm, but I don't think this is accurate at all. Most of the CSMs represent big alliances, yes, but what are those alliances actually doing, exactly? A whole lot of NOTHING from what I've seen. PL used to be a major player in sov warfare and now they just float around looking for fights seemingly arbitrarily. The Goons are just screwing with miners in empire and practicing random acts of asshattery. TEST just bombs around null laying siege on random corps for no apparent reason and then forgetting about them... I've never seen the alliances of EvE as apathetic to sov as they are right now. It's not about REMOVING resources... it's about distributing them in non-conformal and unique ways. It's about giveing alliances a REASON to fight. They don't want to deny anyone anything necessarily. They want to tighten up the allocation of resources to keep alliances from sprawling. If a finite amount of high-quality resources are in a few systems, and those systems support the alliance, than the thinking goes there will be an upper limit to how far laterally an alliance will sprawl before the diminishing returns at the periphery of alliance controlled space cause corps to revolt against their keepers! If CCP were to make the resources something that can be sustainability harvested OR gutted for a quick payday and than depleted, alliances may form that just roll around and crush others. Incursions have nothing to do with it. At all. You're way off. All the lackadaisical alliances have already "won" EVE. They own it. They control it. (I'm sure more than a few pay their mortgages from it.) If their only potential threat is from people grinding incursions for the resources to challenge them, they will pursue incursion nerfs. After all, if you can't win legitimately, find a dev to cheat for you.
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Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
1253
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Posted - 2012.01.09 19:09:00 -
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Ocih wrote:LOL, yes low sec alt, CCP should nerf high sec incursions so you have an advantage.
Lets also be very clear.
There is no hard in EVE There is no hard in EVE There is no hard in EVE There is no hard in EVE
Say it with me?
You can or you can't. Plain and ******* simple. Once you know how to do something you can do it a million times. It's the flaw of computer code. There is nothing CCP can do about it. Stop crying
High sec ISK farmers will still sit in high sec and farm ISK. They won't come to low sec and be your cow. They are Alts, you know that, I know that. Likely Alts from your own alliances, deal with it.
They can invent one of many available AIs.. but than it would become unplayable because everyone include null powerblocks would be eaten by NPCs. |
Mars Theran
EVE Rogues EVE Rogues Alliance
44
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Posted - 2012.01.09 19:38:00 -
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Some people can be so negative and jaded. Why can't we all just be friends?
CCP responds to post with positive statement that it is being looked into, and something will be done.
Bittervet syndrome descends. |
Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
1255
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Posted - 2012.01.09 19:40:00 -
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Mars Theran wrote:Some people can be so negative and jaded. Why can't we all just be friends?
CCP responds to post with positive statement that it is being looked into, and something will be done.
Bittervet syndrome descends.
Friend = another enemy which has got the superior position, because he knows a lot about you, your weaknesses and you dont pay attention enough. |
Chandaris
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
41
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Posted - 2012.01.09 21:09:00 -
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As a pretty experienced incursion runner I agree with the following
- payouts for vanguards should be substantially reduced - payouts for HQ's and assaults should be upped - payouts for lowsec and nullsec incursions should be dramatically increased (like 5x) -- the risk running them is enormous |
mkint
605
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Posted - 2012.01.09 21:16:00 -
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Chandaris wrote: - payouts for lowsec and nullsec incursions should be dramatically increased (like 5x) -- the risk running them is enormous
No. No, no, no.
nullbear mega-blox RMTers do not need more monopolies. One alliance dumping all it's people into one low/null constellation and grinding half a billion isk per individual per hour is bad. 1 vg system supports approx 50 people... the nullbear alliances do not need the power to grind 1 super per hour per system with what adds up to be essentially NO risk. It would be trivially easy for asshat fucktards like goons to trigger uncontrollable inflation effectively removing everyone else from the game.
post less stupid next time. |
Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
283
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Posted - 2012.01.09 21:29:00 -
[59] - Quote
mkint wrote:Chandaris wrote: - payouts for lowsec and nullsec incursions should be dramatically increased (like 5x) -- the risk running them is enormous
No. No, no, no. nullbear mega-blox RMTers do not need more monopolies. One alliance dumping all it's people into one low/null constellation and grinding half a billion isk per individual per hour is bad. 1 vg system supports approx 50 people... the nullbear alliances do not need the power to grind 1 super per hour per system with what adds up to be essentially NO risk. It would be trivially easy for asshat fucktards like goons to trigger uncontrollable inflation effectively removing everyone else from the game. post less stupid next time. I think I'm starting to get your thought process. Whereas most players take a look at the system overall and try to find a way they can adapt their play style to the game and the other players to reach their goals, you have a play style that is set in stone and you want eve to conform to you. Sounds lazy. I would make some kind of argument trying to convince you that half the fun is overcoming the challenges of the game, but I don't care anymore. Recycle your char. is my only advice. All GëíGêçGëí Ships | GëíGêçGëí - sñÜpüÅpü«sÑçsªÖpü¬péópéñpâåpâá | <-- Links to ShowInfo in-game
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DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
2
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Posted - 2012.01.09 21:33:00 -
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NULL SECers once again crying because someone in HI SEC can make some ISK... Want to make REAL ISK with no RISK get a TECH MOON! I say NERF the TECH MOONs and say have drones poop techtanium dollups so its not just a NULL SEC passive farm item. At least HI sec Incursions are not a passive way to make you rich |
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