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ElQuirko
The Demonfuge Malevolent Fan Club
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Posted - 2012.01.08 17:28:00 -
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Hainnz wrote:I can't imagine too many people care about who controls null as long as they can afford ships and modules. I'd rather Goons own it all out there rather than some group of pretentious d-bags.
Andski wrote:oh yes, everything about goonswarm is totally indicative of an alliance on the verge of disintegrating
why don't you headshot VFK about it lol
:pubbies:
My point has been made. |
Ira Theos
Viziam Amarr Empire
29
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Posted - 2012.01.08 17:38:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Ira Theos wrote:Was that a gnat I heard buzzing?? No, that was CCP's cash register announcing the double profit they made by getting more money than they otherwise would and saving money by not having to give anything in return.
Good, they need it to offset their declining subscriber base. |
Valei Khurelem
122
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Posted - 2012.01.08 17:39:00 -
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You forgot about wormholes. |
Jenshae Chiroptera
407
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Posted - 2012.01.08 17:40:00 -
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Corina Jarr wrote:All it takes for a big alliance to fall is 1 very well entrenched thief.
Anyway, worst that would happen is, they would get bored...
To agree with you, the null sec players already seem to be bored, they have "blued" each other and keep calling for soft high sec dwellers to come out and be slaughtered for their amusement. Ideas and stuff EVE - the game of sand castles, either building them or kicking them down. |
ElQuirko
The Demonfuge Malevolent Fan Club
295
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Posted - 2012.01.08 17:44:00 -
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Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:To agree with you, the null sec players already seem to be bored, they have "blued" each other and keep calling for soft high sec dwellers to come out and be slaughtered for their amusement.
This is very true. |
Elessa Enaka
State War Academy Caldari State
11
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Posted - 2012.01.08 18:18:00 -
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Ira Theos wrote:Elessa Enaka wrote:CCP pushes the reset button on everything in 0.0 or watches as the sandbox withers and dies from stagnation What are you talking about? The sandbox is already withered and dead from stagnation, so are you asking where we go from here? Pesonally, I've already unsubbed and am just spending isk on PLEX to complain about it on the forums in the vain hope that CCP will correct things before Eve completely dries up and blows away. Not really expecting this to happen though.
Well, this is sad news for me, I am a fairly young player of Eve (my main is only about 15 months old), I want to participate in the "end game" of eve (I know, no real endgame to a sandbox, blah, blah, blah) though I refuse to do it as a pet. There needs to be some way for those of us who aren't completely jaded to have some upward mobility as far as null is concerned or else the influx of new players will eventually cease, which I highly doubt is something CCP wants.
If something doesn't change, it will get to a point where there may be 35-50k characters logged in, but they will be the same 10-15k players with all of their multiboxed alts.
It isn't CCP that is killing Eve, it is the elitist neckbeards in the playerbase Devour to survive, so it is, so it's always been |
Falin Whalen
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
80
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Posted - 2012.01.08 18:23:00 -
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Valei Khurelem wrote:You forgot about wormholes. Why don't you lose another Thrasher to a Broadsword. You've got to remember that these are just simple miners. These are people of the land. The common clay of New Eden. You know... morons. |
J Kunjeh
313
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Posted - 2012.01.08 18:27:00 -
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Elessa Enaka wrote: If something doesn't change, it will get to a point where there may be 35-50k characters logged in, but they will be the same 10-15k players with all of their multiboxed alts.
Welcome to Eve, 2012. This is what we have today (except you forgot bots...lots of bots). "The world as we know it came about through an anomaly (anomou)" (The Gospel of Philip, 1-5)-á |
Lyrrashae
Crushed Ambitions Reckless Ambition
136
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Posted - 2012.01.08 18:40:00 -
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Elessa Enaka wrote:Ira Theos wrote:Elessa Enaka wrote:CCP pushes the reset button on everything in 0.0 or watches as the sandbox withers and dies from stagnation What are you talking about? The sandbox is already withered and dead from stagnation, so are you asking where we go from here? Pesonally, I've already unsubbed and am just spending isk on PLEX to complain about it on the forums in the vain hope that CCP will correct things before Eve completely dries up and blows away. Not really expecting this to happen though. Well, this is sad news for me, I am a fairly young player of Eve (my main is only about 15 months old), I want to participate in the "end game" of eve (I know, no real endgame to a sandbox, blah, blah, blah) though I refuse to do it as a pet. There needs to be some way for those of us who aren't completely jaded to have some upward mobility as far as null is concerned or else the influx of new players will eventually cease, which I highly doubt is something CCP wants. If something doesn't change, it will get to a point where there may be 35-50k characters logged in, but they will be the same 10-15k players with all of their multiboxed alts. It isn't CCP that is killing Eve, it is the elitist neckbeards in the playerbase
Give wormhole-life a try.
They're what zerosec should have been.
I A/F/K cloak in Jita. Does that count? |
Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1434
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Posted - 2012.01.08 18:42:00 -
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Elessa Enaka wrote:Well, this is sad news for me, You can safely ignore Ira. He's just jealous of how successful we are.
The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
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Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1434
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Posted - 2012.01.08 18:43:00 -
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Lyrrashae wrote:Give wormhole-life a try.
They're what zerosec should have been.
Not quite. The only people who care about wormholes are anti-social roleplayer types who can't hack fleet combat.
The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
Lady Spank
GET OUT NASTY FACE
858
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Posted - 2012.01.08 18:46:00 -
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because getting called derogatory names and pushing f1-f8 is so hard yeah? (a¦á_a¦â) ~ http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.com/ ~ (a¦á_a¦â) -áGÖÑ New Years Resolution ~ Cease thy Smacktalk GÖÑ |
Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1434
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Posted - 2012.01.08 18:49:00 -
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Lady Spank wrote:because getting called derogatory names and pushing f1-f8 is so hard yeah? Surely the great Lady Spank is capable of better trolling than this...
Besides, in Goon fleets it's the FC who gets called derogatory names. The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
Nex apparatu5
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
144
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Posted - 2012.01.08 18:55:00 -
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Goons are unstoppable and will soon own all nullsec.
Reminds me of the one time the Russians were unstoppable and were going to control all of Eve
Oh, and the time when the Northern Coalition was unkillable due to their numbers and were ruining the game.
Which reminds me of when IT was an unstoppable steamroller that couldn't lose.
You get the point. |
Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1434
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Posted - 2012.01.08 19:04:00 -
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Nex apparatu5 wrote:Goons are unstoppable and will soon own all nullsec.
Reminds me of the one time the Russians were unstoppable and were going to control all of Eve
Oh, and the time when the Northern Coalition was unkillable due to their numbers and were ruining the game.
Which reminds me of when IT was an unstoppable steamroller that couldn't lose.
You get the point. You left out the DRF and the CFC joining forces to create the DCF and taking over all of nullsec. The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
Ocih
Space Mermaids
37
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Posted - 2012.01.08 19:05:00 -
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In fairness to Goons, EVE won't be "owned by Goons". Ever.
Goons would if left to EVE, create thier own opposition in the spirit of PvP. Hopefully they can subsidize it on the CC level though because if they insist on running everyone else off, they might have to. |
Falin Whalen
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
80
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Posted - 2012.01.08 19:09:00 -
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Soon my precious, it will all be ours. My precioussss. We will haves it, my precious. All of 0.0 wil be ours! You've got to remember that these are just simple miners. These are people of the land. The common clay of New Eden. You know... morons. |
Jafit McJafitson
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
112
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Posted - 2012.01.08 19:40:00 -
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I love how now apparantly the CSM is a Goon/Test/PL council of shadowy puppetmasters manipulating the game to suit themselves. The reason the CSM was set up in the first place was for player oversight of CCP after the T20 incident where a CCP employee was found doing favours for Band of Brothers, who were the dominant nullsec power at the time. Back then, every thread like this was about them.
Also it'd be nice if TEST even had any CSM members, they keep leaving as soon as they're elected. |
Chase The Dragon
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.01.08 20:22:00 -
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Goons? They're just people that:
a) When they do something 'naughty' to you, tell you to chill out and stop being so an@l. b) When they're at the receiving end of something 'naughty', whine like toddlers.
They're the wannabe hotheads that gatecrash a party and within 15 mins get thrown over the fence. |
Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1436
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Posted - 2012.01.08 20:27:00 -
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Chase The Dragon wrote:They're the wannabe hotheads that gatecrash a party and within 15 mins get thrown over the fence. Well how else are we going to get to party with the cool kids? The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
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Lady Spank
GET OUT NASTY FACE
858
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Posted - 2012.01.08 20:33:00 -
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Ladie Harlot wrote:Lady Spank wrote:because getting called derogatory names and pushing f1-f8 is so hard yeah? Surely the great Lady Spank is capable of better trolling than this... Besides, in Goon fleets it's the FC who gets called derogatory names.
Pardon me, I was stuck in a mid noughties nostalgia trip. (a¦á_a¦â) ~ http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.com/ ~ (a¦á_a¦â) -áGÖÑ New Years Resolution ~ Cease thy Smacktalk GÖÑ |
Ira Theos
Viziam Amarr Empire
29
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Posted - 2012.01.08 22:54:00 -
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Elessa Enaka wrote:Ira Theos wrote:Elessa Enaka wrote:CCP pushes the reset button on everything in 0.0 or watches as the sandbox withers and dies from stagnation What are you talking about? The sandbox is already withered and dead from stagnation, so are you asking where we go from here? Pesonally, I've already unsubbed and am just spending isk on PLEX to complain about it on the forums in the vain hope that CCP will correct things before Eve completely dries up and blows away. Not really expecting this to happen though. Well, this is sad news for me, I am a fairly young player of Eve (my main is only about 15 months old), I want to participate in the "end game" of eve (I know, no real endgame to a sandbox, blah, blah, blah) though I refuse to do it as a pet. There needs to be some way for those of us who aren't completely jaded to have some upward mobility as far as null is concerned or else the influx of new players will eventually cease, which I highly doubt is something CCP wants. If something doesn't change, it will get to a point where there may be 35-50k characters logged in, but they will be the same 10-15k players with all of their multiboxed alts. It isn't CCP that is killing Eve, it is the elitist neckbeards in the playerbase
Sorry to bust your bubble, but it reached that point long ago. The few spikes in new membership have been quickly killed off several times. |
Ira Theos
Viziam Amarr Empire
29
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Posted - 2012.01.08 22:57:00 -
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J Kunjeh wrote:Elessa Enaka wrote: If something doesn't change, it will get to a point where there may be 35-50k characters logged in, but they will be the same 10-15k players with all of their multiboxed alts.
Welcome to Eve, 2012. This is what we have today (except you forgot bots...lots of bots).
QFT! RMT Plantations and Bots... Lots of Bots. |
Chase The Dragon
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.01.08 23:10:00 -
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Ladie Harlot wrote:Chase The Dragon wrote:They're the wannabe hotheads that gatecrash a party and within 15 mins get thrown over the fence. Well how else are we going to get to party with the cool kids?
Surely you'd enjoy partying amongst yourselves? I'm sure TEST, GOML, FA etc etc could sort out a great game of naked twister with you. |
Ira Theos
Viziam Amarr Empire
29
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Posted - 2012.01.08 23:12:00 -
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Ladie Harlot wrote:Elessa Enaka wrote:Well, this is sad news for me, You can safely ignore Ira. He's just jealous of how successful we are.
No, I'm just jaded about how CCP has let their game mechanics destroy the heart of their game by denying their new subscribers any LEGITIMATE avenue to dethrone the existing order in Zero. Of course if you have a metagame internet club like the Goons and want to use the same botting cheats to try it, you might succeed, but then that wouldn't be legitimate, would it?Now if you came to Eve looking to play the part of a serf working in Zero as a Guard Dog defending some Russian's RMT Farm, then Eve is your game.
I don't really think new subscribers have that goal when they start and I believe they quit Eve after they have figured it out. This is why the subscriber base hasn't significantly increased over time. |
Killstealing
Broski Enterprises Elite Space Guild
331
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Posted - 2012.01.08 23:15:00 -
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get a load of this sperg ^ |
Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1436
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Posted - 2012.01.08 23:42:00 -
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Ira Theos wrote:Ladie Harlot wrote:Elessa Enaka wrote:Well, this is sad news for me, You can safely ignore Ira. He's just jealous of how successful we are. No, I'm just jaded about how CCP has let their game mechanics destroy the heart of their game by denying their new subscribers any LEGITIMATE avenue to dethrone the existing order in Zero. Of course if you have a metagame internet club like the Goons and want to use the same botting cheats to try it, you might succeed, but then that wouldn't be legitimate, would it?Now if you came to Eve looking to play the part of a serf working in Zero as a Guard Dog defending some Russian's RMT Farm, then Eve is your game. I don't really think new subscribers have that goal when they start and I believe they quit Eve after they have figured it out. This is why the subscriber base hasn't significantly increased over time. Since you don't have any proof of anybody botting or engaging in RMT I'm going to stick with my assertion that you're just jealous of both our success and the amount of fun we are having in the game.
As for new subscribers...we recently had a very successful newbie drive and we have a ton of new people so you're wrong about that as well.
The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
Jafit McJafitson
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
112
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Posted - 2012.01.08 23:54:00 -
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Ira Theos wrote:Now if you came to Eve looking to play the part of a serf working in Zero as a Guard Dog defending some Russian's RMT Farm, then Eve is your game.
I don't really think new subscribers have that goal when they start and I believe they quit Eve after they have figured it out. This is why the subscriber base hasn't significantly increased over time.
Implying that the average player joins EVE and bases their decision to subscribe on the state of nullsec politics rather than, y'know, gameplay... Usually empire mission running gameplay. |
Ira Theos
Viziam Amarr Empire
29
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Posted - 2012.01.09 00:46:00 -
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Ladie Harlot wrote:Ira Theos wrote:Ladie Harlot wrote:Elessa Enaka wrote:Well, this is sad news for me, You can safely ignore Ira. He's just jealous of how successful we are. No, I'm just jaded about how CCP has let their game mechanics destroy the heart of their game by denying their new subscribers any LEGITIMATE avenue to dethrone the existing order in Zero. Of course if you have a metagame internet club like the Goons and want to use the same botting cheats to try it, you might succeed, but then that wouldn't be legitimate, would it?Now if you came to Eve looking to play the part of a serf working in Zero as a Guard Dog defending some Russian's RMT Farm, then Eve is your game. I don't really think new subscribers have that goal when they start and I believe they quit Eve after they have figured it out. This is why the subscriber base hasn't significantly increased over time. Since you don't have any proof of anybody botting or engaging in RMT I'm going to stick with my assertion that you're just jealous of both our success and the amount of fun we are having in the game. As for new subscribers...we recently had a very successful newbie drive and we have a ton of new people so you're wrong about that as well. Tell me again why I should care about your opinion of what I believe about the state of Eve? Oh, you're irrelevent? Fine, but please do carry on, as I'm sure you will. Pardon me if I add you to my ignore list. |
Ira Theos
Viziam Amarr Empire
29
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Posted - 2012.01.09 00:52:00 -
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Jafit McJafitson wrote:Ira Theos wrote:Now if you came to Eve looking to play the part of a serf working in Zero as a Guard Dog defending some Russian's RMT Farm, then Eve is your game.
I don't really think new subscribers have that goal when they start and I believe they quit Eve after they have figured it out. This is why the subscriber base hasn't significantly increased over time. Implying that the average player joins EVE and bases their decision to subscribe on the state of nullsec politics rather than, y'know, gameplay... Usually empire mission running gameplay.
I'm not "implying" it. I'm stating it as fact that most people subscribing to Eve expect to find a role in the "Great Space Opera" other than Rent-Paying-Guard-Dog-In-Zero-RMT-Farm. Most quit after six months when they have figured this out. If this were not so, Eve's subscription numbers would be well over a million by now. |
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