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murder one
Gallente Death of Virtue FreeFall Securities
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Posted - 2007.07.11 02:13:00 -
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Logging off, leaving, docking. I hop in local and within ten minutes the ships on the scanner drop from half a dozen to zero.
Get rid of local. Nao.
BUYING Poteque Pharmaceuticals 'Prospector' PPH-2, PAYING WELL, CONVO/MAIL IN-GAME |
Guvnor RBM
Welsh Commanders 3asy Company
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Posted - 2007.07.11 02:29:00 -
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I feel your pain. When I was a active pirate. I log in and the system would clear
Not that I'm a great hunter, I was always the scout :)
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Evil Bonzi
Fire Mandrill
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Posted - 2007.07.11 02:45:00 -
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Elite bthron pilots can cloak their ship in warp
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murder one
Gallente Death of Virtue FreeFall Securities
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Posted - 2007.07.11 02:49:00 -
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The thing is, I don't even have my 'pirate' character anywhere near the system lol. This character (murder one) has positive sec, and I'm not in some threatening ship (Curse, Blasterthron, etc.).
But as soon as I hit local, poof, everyone's gone. Really annoying.
BUYING Poteque Pharmaceuticals 'Prospector' PPH-2, PAYING WELL, CONVO/MAIL IN-GAME |
T'Renn
Vale Heavy Industries Molotov Coalition
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Posted - 2007.07.11 03:14:00 -
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mebbe they read c&p --
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evs
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Posted - 2007.07.11 03:22:00 -
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Edited by: evs on 11/07/2007 03:22:07 you peeps (death of virtue) hang out by decon alot dont you?
i got damped by one of you peeps, twas sad couldnt target him
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Plaetean
Hybrid Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.07.11 03:47:00 -
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Originally by: murder one
Get rid of local. Nao.
YASE!! God, eve would be so fun...
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HSY are recruiting
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Corwain
Gallente Kamite
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Posted - 2007.07.11 06:49:00 -
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Originally by: murder one within ten minutes the ships on the scanner drop from half a dozen to zero.
Looks like you're not the only one with a scanner!
So what's that have to do with local?
Although I do agree, it'd be a much better game without local.
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murder one
Gallente Death of Virtue FreeFall Securities
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Posted - 2007.07.11 07:00:00 -
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Originally by: Corwain
Originally by: murder one within ten minutes the ships on the scanner drop from half a dozen to zero.
Looks like you're not the only one with a scanner!
So what's that have to do with local?
Although I do agree, it'd be a much better game without local.
OMG! Someone else can use a scanner!
Er, wait. I don't show up on any scanner. Guess that's not it! How about that?
Guess it has everything to do with local.
BUYING Poteque Pharmaceuticals 'Prospector' PPH-2, PAYING WELL, CONVO/MAIL IN-GAME |
Na'Kunni
Amarr RSP Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.07.11 07:07:00 -
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The thing with removing local would be people leaving ships in systems, meaning once u eneter u think you got a ship only to waste time tracking it at a POS with no one in it >.<, but ye I feel the pain especially while roaming 0.0, all those damn macro's/ratting BS's that could be mineeee!!!
Possible solution to local, try makeing it region wide?? (could create a rather large bit of spam) but i'm willing to trade channel spam for more kills
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Valandril
Caldari Resurrection R i s e
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Posted - 2007.07.11 07:08:00 -
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Originally by: murder one
Originally by: Corwain
Originally by: murder one within ten minutes the ships on the scanner drop from half a dozen to zero.
Looks like you're not the only one with a scanner!
So what's that have to do with local?
Although I do agree, it'd be a much better game without local.
OMG! Someone else can use a scanner!
Er, wait. I don't show up on any scanner. Guess that's not it! How about that?
Guess it has everything to do with local.
No local would be nice for piracy, but would ruind alliance warfare tbh. ---
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tiller
kleptomaniacs
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Posted - 2007.07.11 07:09:00 -
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Originally by: murder one Logging off, leaving, docking. I hop in local and within ten minutes the ships on the scanner drop from half a dozen to zero.
Get rid of local. Nao.
the time after patch day a year or so back when local stopped working we went out hunting and was most fun I had in months..
maybe local should be removed at wkends
Kleptomaniacs are recruiting evildoers. Channel KLEPTO for info.
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Devian 666
Axe Gang
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Posted - 2007.07.11 07:11:00 -
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Originally by: murder one
Originally by: Corwain
Originally by: murder one within ten minutes the ships on the scanner drop from half a dozen to zero.
Looks like you're not the only one with a scanner!
So what's that have to do with local?
Although I do agree, it'd be a much better game without local.
OMG! Someone else can use a scanner!
Er, wait. I don't show up on any scanner. Guess that's not it! How about that?
Guess it has everything to do with local.
Outpost systems have a similar problem and all you get is a carrier pilot undocked ready to station hump.
I agree I don't have the features to be a holoreel star. Most people have missed the point that this is Mobsters Online and that carebears are at the bottom of the foodchain. |
Faekurias
Federation Fleet Endless Horizon
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Posted - 2007.07.11 07:18:00 -
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it is them gheys >.< happens all the time :/
Give the Nighthawk back it's shieldrecharge! |
Corwain
Gallente Kamite
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Posted - 2007.07.11 07:23:00 -
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Originally by: murder one OMG! Someone else can use a scanner!
Er, wait. I don't show up on any scanner. Guess that's not it! How about that?
Guess it has everything to do with local.
Er...you failed to mention you were in a cloaker. Haha!
Although chances are either someone saw on their scanner when you came in the gate and were recloaking from the jump cloaking (I often do 360 degree scans when local jumps and catch many recons on scan that way) or even being decloaked by asteroids if you were warping to belts (the bug where if you're going slow enough coming out of warp and pass any obejcts it will decloak you even if you're still warping).
Or they hard their own eyes on your gate.
Your evidence might not be perfect, but yeah, local needs to go.
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Iteken Hotori
Minmatar GTE Corp
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Posted - 2007.07.11 08:42:00 -
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I was going to troll the crap out of you as you are, by public spectable, tried and found guilty of being a self-publicising idiot. However it's practically impossibly to resist the urge of giving advice to 'One Of the Elite'. infact, we should all feel humbled to be in such a position, and so should everyone else who isn't 'Elite' flying a blasterthon with maxed everythig skillz doing 1337 dps.
>> Ok - serious post bit here <<
It appears youa re trying to use a covert ship to locate / lock down targets for a gang. Well, your cover is blown. The main advantage cov-ops pilots shoudl ahve is being totally unknown. Thi sis why Cov-ops ships > force recon ships. The urge to fit guns, ***** your way onto killmails, and generally 'be known' is greatly reduced. Most of the scouts i know, their characters have never been in the same corp as their main, never appear on killmails and should rarely be seen in the same system together, and certainly not regularly.
it sounds like you've bene working one area too long, peopel can tell you're coming, and log off rather than die to you.
How about, instead of whining about 'Disgusting skummy Carebears' you improvise, adapt, and overcome? Sell your cahr and buy another one with similar skills, and use it smarter this time?
>> Short Answer here << Ebay much? Warning: May contain flaming, trolling, swearing, typos, crimes against grammar, obscure reference to old films, in jokes, rambling, ranting and references to EvE. |
OrangeAfroMan
Minmatar Under the Wings of Fury
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Posted - 2007.07.11 10:12:00 -
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Your slave set and leet-o-thron of nurfed doom automatically destroy all pods within the ships of anyone in a 27 AU radius once you enter system.
Nos - Time for a Change |
murder one
Gallente Death of Virtue FreeFall Securities
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Posted - 2007.07.11 10:22:00 -
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Originally by: Iteken Hotori I was going to troll the crap out of you as you are, by public spectable, tried and found guilty of being a self-publicising idiot. However it's practically impossibly to resist the urge of giving advice to 'One Of the Elite'. infact, we should all feel humbled to be in such a position, and so should everyone else who isn't 'Elite' flying a blasterthon with maxed everythig skillz doing 1337 dps.
>> Ok - serious post bit here <<
It appears youa re trying to use a covert ship to locate / lock down targets for a gang. Well, your cover is blown. The main advantage cov-ops pilots shoudl ahve is being totally unknown. Thi sis why Cov-ops ships > force recon ships. The urge to fit guns, ***** your way onto killmails, and generally 'be known' is greatly reduced. Most of the scouts i know, their characters have never been in the same corp as their main, never appear on killmails and should rarely be seen in the same system together, and certainly not regularly.
it sounds like you've bene working one area too long, peopel can tell you're coming, and log off rather than die to you.
How about, instead of whining about 'Disgusting skummy Carebears' you improvise, adapt, and overcome? Sell your cahr and buy another one with similar skills, and use it smarter this time?
>> Short Answer here << Ebay much?
When you have spelling errors in your post while trying (poorly) to talk down to someone, it makes you look like a complete and total imbecile. And since you probably don't know what an imbecile is, and obviously arn't intelligent enough to be able to operate a web browser and use common websites like google.com or dictionary.com, I've taken the liberty of including the definition for you:
im+be+cile /ˈɪmbəsɪl, -səl or, especially Brit., -ˌsil/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[im-buh-sil, -suhl or, especially Brit., -seel] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation ûnoun 1. Psychology. a person of the second order in a former classification of mental ******ation, above the level of idiocy, having a mental age of seven or eight years and an intelligence quotient of 25 to 50. 2. a dunce; blockhead; dolt. ûadjective 3. mentally feeble. 4. showing mental feebleness or incapacity. 5. stupid; silly; absurd. 6. Archaic. weak or feeble.
Back to the point at hand: you're an idiot. You don't know what the hell you're talking about. What is all this rambling about 'getting onto killmails'? Huh? I fly around in a max skilled Covert Ops 99% of the time. What the hell are you talking about?
Working an area too long? I can't show up for five minutes without all the carebears (not pirates, they hang out and shoot) docking/running etc.
And how did you know that my Blasterthron does 1337 DPS? Spooky.
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murder one
Gallente Death of Virtue FreeFall Securities
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Posted - 2007.07.11 10:26:00 -
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Originally by: Na'Kunni The thing with removing local would be people leaving ships in systems, meaning once u eneter u think you got a ship only to waste time tracking it at a POS with no one in it >.<, but ye I feel the pain especially while roaming 0.0, all those damn macro's/ratting BS's that could be mineeee!!!
Possible solution to local, try makeing it region wide?? (could create a rather large bit of spam) but i'm willing to trade channel spam for more kills
The 'ship at a POS' issue exists anyway. I find tons of ships sitting at POSes all over the place. I just note them down and continue on.
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burek
Eve Bakery
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Posted - 2007.07.11 10:35:00 -
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I cannot contain my thoughts to myself any longer.
FIGJAM
"When I enter Eve all of US runs for the Canadian hillz" ---------------------------- Keeping your e-peen in check |
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Kermis
Caldari The Ankou The Reckoning.
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Posted - 2007.07.11 10:53:00 -
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It took you 10 minutes to scan the system?
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hUssmann
Caldari Veto. Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.07.11 11:07:00 -
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Whether it is removed or nerfed to not show Covert Ops Cloak II fitted ships something needs to be done.
Ginger Magician > You are merely an effective ganker of haulers who runs at the first sign of combat. |
the gingerbreadman
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Posted - 2007.07.11 11:11:00 -
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Originally by: murder one
Originally by: Iteken Hotori I was going to troll the crap out of you as you are, by public spectable, tried and found guilty of being a self-publicising idiot. However it's practically impossibly to resist the urge of giving advice to 'One Of the Elite'. infact, we should all feel humbled to be in such a position, and so should everyone else who isn't 'Elite' flying a blasterthon with maxed everythig skillz doing 1337 dps.
>> Ok - serious post bit here <<
It appears youa re trying to use a covert ship to locate / lock down targets for a gang. Well, your cover is blown. The main advantage cov-ops pilots shoudl ahve is being totally unknown. Thi sis why Cov-ops ships > force recon ships. The urge to fit guns, ***** your way onto killmails, and generally 'be known' is greatly reduced. Most of the scouts i know, their characters have never been in the same corp as their main, never appear on killmails and should rarely be seen in the same system together, and certainly not regularly.
it sounds like you've bene working one area too long, peopel can tell you're coming, and log off rather than die to you.
How about, instead of whining about 'Disgusting skummy Carebears' you improvise, adapt, and overcome? Sell your cahr and buy another one with similar skills, and use it smarter this time?
>> Short Answer here << Ebay much?
When you have spelling errors in your post while trying (poorly) to talk down to someone, it makes you look like a complete and total imbecile. And since you probably don't know what an imbecile is, and obviously arn't intelligent enough to be able to operate a web browser and use common websites like google.com or dictionary.com, I've taken the liberty of including the definition for you:
im+be+cile /ˈɪmbəsɪl, -səl or, especially Brit., -ˌsil/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[im-buh-sil, -suhl or, especially Brit., -seel] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation ûnoun 1. Psychology. a person of the second order in a former classification of mental ******ation, above the level of idiocy, having a mental age of seven or eight years and an intelligence quotient of 25 to 50. 2. a dunce; blockhead; dolt. ûadjective 3. mentally feeble. 4. showing mental feebleness or incapacity. 5. stupid; silly; absurd. 6. Archaic. weak or feeble.
Back to the point at hand: you're an idiot. You don't know what the hell you're talking about. What is all this rambling about 'getting onto killmails'? Huh? I fly around in a max skilled Covert Ops 99% of the time. What the hell are you talking about?
Working an area too long? I can't show up for five minutes without all the carebears (not pirates, they hang out and shoot) docking/running etc.
And how did you know that my Blasterthron does 1337 DPS? Spooky.
aren't not "arn't" if yer gonna be a picky **** brush up yer own spelling ****wad.
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Pesadel0
Ordem dos Templarios Pax Atlantis
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Posted - 2007.07.11 11:21:00 -
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Originally by: the gingerbreadman
Originally by: murder one
Originally by: Iteken Hotori I was going to troll the crap out of you as you are, by public spectable, tried and found guilty of being a self-publicising idiot. However it's practically impossibly to resist the urge of giving advice to 'One Of the Elite'. infact, we should all feel humbled to be in such a position, and so should everyone else who isn't 'Elite' flying a blasterthon with maxed everythig skillz doing 1337 dps.
>> Ok - serious post bit here <<
It appears youa re trying to use a covert ship to locate / lock down targets for a gang. Well, your cover is blown. The main advantage cov-ops pilots shoudl ahve is being totally unknown. Thi sis why Cov-ops ships > force recon ships. The urge to fit guns, ***** your way onto killmails, and generally 'be known' is greatly reduced. Most of the scouts i know, their characters have never been in the same corp as their main, never appear on killmails and should rarely be seen in the same system together, and certainly not regularly.
it sounds like you've bene working one area too long, peopel can tell you're coming, and log off rather than die to you.
How about, instead of whining about 'Disgusting skummy Carebears' you improvise, adapt, and overcome? Sell your cahr and buy another one with similar skills, and use it smarter this time?
>> Short Answer here << Ebay much?
When you have spelling errors in your post while trying (poorly) to talk down to someone, it makes you look like a complete and total imbecile. And since you probably don't know what an imbecile is, and obviously arn't intelligent enough to be able to operate a web browser and use common websites like google.com or dictionary.com, I've taken the liberty of including the definition for you:
im+be+cile /ˈɪmbəsɪl, -səl or, especially Brit., -ˌsil/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[im-buh-sil, -suhl or, especially Brit., -seel] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation ûnoun 1. Psychology. a person of the second order in a former classification of mental ******ation, above the level of idiocy, having a mental age of seven or eight years and an intelligence quotient of 25 to 50. 2. a dunce; blockhead; dolt. ûadjective 3. mentally feeble. 4. showing mental feebleness or incapacity. 5. stupid; silly; absurd. 6. Archaic. weak or feeble.
Back to the point at hand: you're an idiot. You don't know what the hell you're talking about. What is all this rambling about 'getting onto killmails'? Huh? I fly around in a max skilled Covert Ops 99% of the time. What the hell are you talking about?
Working an area too long? I can't show up for five minutes without all the carebears (not pirates, they hang out and shoot) docking/running etc.
And how did you know that my Blasterthron does 1337 DPS? Spooky.
aren't not "arn't" if yer gonna be a picky **** brush up yer own spelling ****wad.
Lol.
I was sworn to absolute secrecy BY CCP. |
Isyel
Minmatar Queens of the Stone Age Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.07.11 15:09:00 -
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Quote: I fly around in a max skilled Covert Ops 99% of the time.
Thought you flew a max skilled slave implant booster blasterthron 99% of the time? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Originally by: Wrangler We don't want to discriminate anyone! We want *both* anti-social *and* social players to grief each other!
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Khuwe
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Posted - 2007.07.11 15:37:00 -
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Speaking as a carebear....if someone named 'murder one' appeared on local, regardless of his sec status, I'd probably find a quick way out of system too. That's without lurking the boards religiously too, so I already know your rep. :)
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Keiyrm
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Posted - 2007.07.11 15:46:00 -
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Edited by: Keiyrm on 11/07/2007 15:47:33 HAHAHAHAHA! Your reputation proceeds you, and now you are whining? Damn, why not just remove all sa***uards from the game and make it a free-for-all? Shoot everyone and anything all you want?
"Gee, I'm a notorious pirate, when I show up, everyone scatters! WAAAAAAHHH!"
You made your bed.
EDIT: S.A.F.E.G.U.A.R.D.S. Why is "eff eee gee" a bad word? What the heck is that? |
milinkoee
Bastage Incorporated
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Posted - 2007.07.11 15:50:00 -
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I have found that leaving my character logged in and docked or cloaked for long periods of time while afk will lull many of the carebears into going back to their routines. Then when I am actually ready to play they have since forgotton about me.
Bastage, Inc. Worst Pirates Ever!!! |
Iteken Hotori
Minmatar GTE Corp
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Posted - 2007.07.11 15:51:00 -
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Edited by: Iteken Hotori on 11/07/2007 15:51:08
Originally by: Pesadel0
Originally by: the gingerbreadman
Originally by: murder one
Originally by: Iteken Hotori I was going to troll the crap out of you as you are, by public spectable, tried and found guilty of being a self-publicising idiot. However it's practically impossibly to resist the urge of giving advice to 'One Of the Elite'. infact, we should all feel humbled to be in such a position, and so should everyone else who isn't 'Elite' flying a blasterthon with maxed everythig skillz doing 1337 dps.
>> Ok - serious post bit here <<
It appears youa re trying to use a covert ship to locate / lock down targets for a gang. Well, your cover is blown. The main advantage cov-ops pilots shoudl ahve is being totally unknown. Thi sis why Cov-ops ships > force recon ships. The urge to fit guns, ***** your way onto killmails, and generally 'be known' is greatly reduced. Most of the scouts i know, their characters have never been in the same corp as their main, never appear on killmails and should rarely be seen in the same system together, and certainly not regularly.
it sounds like you've bene working one area too long, peopel can tell you're coming, and log off rather than die to you.
How about, instead of whining about 'Disgusting skummy Carebears' you improvise, adapt, and overcome? Sell your cahr and buy another one with similar skills, and use it smarter this time?
>> Short Answer here << Ebay much?
When you have spelling errors in your post while trying (poorly) to talk down to someone, it makes you look like a complete and total imbecile. And since you probably don't know what an imbecile is, and obviously arn't intelligent enough to be able to operate a web browser and use common websites like google.com or dictionary.com, I've taken the liberty of including the definition for you:
im+be+cile /ˈɪmbəsɪl, -səl or, especially Brit., -ˌsil/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[im-buh-sil, -suhl or, especially Brit., -seel] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation ûnoun 1. Psychology. a person of the second order in a former classification of mental ******ation, above the level of idiocy, having a mental age of seven or eight years and an intelligence quotient of 25 to 50. 2. a dunce; blockhead; dolt. ûadjective 3. mentally feeble. 4. showing mental feebleness or incapacity. 5. stupid; silly; absurd. 6. Archaic. weak or feeble.
Back to the point at hand: you're an idiot. You don't know what the hell you're talking about. What is all this rambling about 'getting onto killmails'? Huh? I fly around in a max skilled Covert Ops 99% of the time. What the hell are you talking about?
Working an area too long? I can't show up for five minutes without all the carebears (not pirates, they hang out and shoot) docking/running etc.
And how did you know that my Blasterthron does 1337 DPS? Spooky.
aren't not "arn't" if yer gonna be a picky **** brush up yer own spelling ****wad.
Lol.
hehe. Nice.
It was early, I don't do spelling in the mornings. What's your excuse?
ps. Sort of calling people names that try to give you advice, have you considered at least considering it? It's pretty obvioud that alot of people recognise you - so... erm... what to do. I jsut don't know.
I've got a completely unknown cov-ops pilot with a nice macro-miner name that's never left noobie-corp, with a 0.1 sec rating, and local is normally fine when he arrives. As you point out though, my inability to spell at 8am in the morning neatly proves that this is a ridiculous concept and i should, erm, go back to WoW... i can't tell.
pps. You Again?
Warning: May contain flaming, trolling, swearing, typos, crimes against grammar, obscure reference to old films, in jokes, rambling, ranting and references to EvE. |
murder one
Gallente Death of Virtue FreeFall Securities
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Posted - 2007.07.11 23:07:00 -
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Originally by: milinkoee I have found that leaving my character logged in and docked or cloaked for long periods of time while afk will lull many of the carebears into going back to their routines. Then when I am actually ready to play they have since forgotton about me.
I tend to do this if only to add a little more stress to their playing time, and like you said, to lull them into a false sense of security.
BUYING Poteque Pharmaceuticals 'Prospector' PPH-2, PAYING WELL, CONVO/MAIL IN-GAME |
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Reycks Armunicus
Gallente CoreTech Industries E.A.R.T.H. Federation
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Posted - 2007.07.12 02:35:00 -
[31]
local is going to be gotten rid of. probably at the same time they make mining modifications. My guess would be Rev III
--------------- mods are strangely fixated on content... |
murder one
Gallente Death of Virtue FreeFall Securities
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Posted - 2007.07.12 02:50:00 -
[32]
Originally by: Reycks Armunicus local is going to be gotten rid of. probably at the same time they make mining modifications. My guess would be Rev III
You have this info from whom?
BUYING Poteque Pharmaceuticals 'Prospector' PPH-2, PAYING WELL, CONVO/MAIL IN-GAME |
evs
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Posted - 2007.07.12 03:38:00 -
[33]
his asss?
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Kirex
Gallente Vale Heavy Industries Molotov Coalition
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Posted - 2007.07.12 04:29:00 -
[34]
Originally by: Reycks Armunicus local is going to be gotten rid of. probably at the same time they make mining modifications. My guess would be Rev III
What?
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Lord Zoran
Caldari House of Tempers
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Posted - 2007.07.12 08:06:00 -
[35]
seems whenever i'm about a lot leave or a gank squad is formed --------------------------------------------- no sig for you !!! |
Boonaki
Caldari Knights of Chaos Chaos Incarnate.
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Posted - 2007.07.12 10:39:00 -
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I wish they'd remove local, make scouts a profession, covert ops and recons are a wonderful start, add some more probes, another covert ops ship that can create false sensor echoes for directional scans, make it look like a whole fleet is sitting at a safespot when it's only 4 or 5 ships. Meanwhile 15 jumps over the real fleet is 2 jumps out from the enemy headquarters about to lay siege.
Having recon 5, covert ops 5, astrometrics 5, supporting skills at 4 or 5, 40-100 mil in ships, scan probe rigs, 100's of probes launched, all negated by my picture showing up in local. Sad...
To counter this you could have proximity alarms (that can be diffused by a proper ship/fit/skills
Fear the Ibis of doom!
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Taipan Gedscho
Muzzletov Gewaltski Inc.
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Posted - 2007.07.12 12:30:00 -
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Edited by: Taipan Gedscho on 12/07/2007 12:31:55
Originally by: murder one Back to the point at hand: you're an idiot.
no he isnt.
i never met you in space. but your forum whoring is strong. if you would catch me doing some sort of carebearing or soloflying, and id see you enter local... id sure be on my toes.
damn, i can remember a lot of bragging posts from you.. taking down a pos with cruisers, your caracal suicide guide and i guess the battlebadger (props to you for that one, tho) are all threads you started, iirc. and no, this is not from the search function, just from the back of my head.
so if you want to flame the guy, that tried to give you (perfectly sound, still a bit rude) advice, go right ahead. but admit it, forum whoring with your covops tool wasnt the best idea...
oh and btw: getting rid of local still might be a good idea. imho it should be connected to sovereignity. the owner of the system should be able to read out the stargate logs, if you wanna talk RP.
Only you can save mmorpgs - Stop crying for nerfs today! |
Heikki
Gallente Wreckless Abandon Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.07.12 12:46:00 -
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Originally by: murder one Get rid of local
Won't be enough, we need to get rid of scanner, overview and visual ID as well. The moment I warp my capital in middle of few BSes, they scatter away :(
Or in more serious tone : it wouldn't make the drastic (lasting) change you seem to be hoping for, but would reduce the comminity feeling (and interfactions) we have.
If get to freely (in recon) attack targets on belts, those targets will migrate to highsec. That is, you can kill only certain percentage of prey population before it becomes extinct.
So instead of supporting changes that in general make pirates life easier, focus on just being better pirate then others -> you can individually sustain higher kill ratios (until you gain too much fame..)
-Lasse entertaining the idea of Constellation chat replacing Local..
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FT Diomedes
Gallente Ductus Exemplo
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Posted - 2007.07.12 13:54:00 -
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As far as people docking when you enter the system, I don't blame them. You've spread your reputation as far as you can. Now you have to live with the consequences of your reputation. Unless someone thinks they can take you out, if they know who you are, they'd be a fool to sit around and wait to die. So, I have no sympathy for you on that count.
As for your substantive point. It's not a terrible idea. Obviously all the pirates' first instinct is "Yarr! I like it!" And all the carebears' first instinct is "Worst. Idea. Ever." But has either side actually thought this through?
I don't know why getting rid of local automatically benefits pirates. It could also benefit mission runners. How?
Well, I am a mission runner. So, let's say I am in low sec, running a mission. A pirate comes into the system.
Without local, he doesn't automatically know I am there, or that anyone is there. So, he might just fly right through. It makes the pirate have to actually stop and look to see who is in the neighborhood.
The pirate has to check his scanner to see who is around. Then he has to sort through all the ships at POSs to find me. All he knows is that there is a Megathron somewhere out there.
Then, once he finds my Megathron's location, he has to figure out whether he can take me out. As long as I have changed my ship name, he cannot get intel on me until he actually sees me.
So, he doesn't know whether my character is 3 weeks old or 3 years old until he sees me.
If he doesn't know what corp I am in until he sees me, he doesn't know whether I have 5 friends waiting at a SS or in the next system.
As for me, I don't know he is there. But I'm in a mission deadspace, checking my scanner every so often. I'm aligned for warp and I have dropped cans by the warp in point (so that he hopefully uncloaks when he warps in). If I see probes, I can be extra alert. If someone jumps in, I'm calling for backup or warping to SS.
What will be the result of getting rid of local? People who are willing to invest some time and energy will still find targets. Those who cannot find people will gatecamp more. People who want to be inconspicuous can be. Space will be a whole lot bigger.
It will be harder to meet people - that's the biggest reason not to get rid of it. It makes Eve seem even more lonely and desolate. It will be harder to talk smack. But I am sure various channels will spring up to replace it.
So, sure, I support getting rid of local.
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deadman67
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Posted - 2007.07.12 14:32:00 -
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Originally by: FT Diomedes It will be harder to meet people - that's the biggest reason not to get rid of it. It makes Eve seem even more lonely and desolate. It will be harder to talk smack. But I am sure various channels will spring up to replace it.
So, sure, I support getting rid of local.
This would somewhat be alleviated if local worked in that your pic only showed if you spoke in local.
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Slythought
Sly Inc
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Posted - 2007.07.12 15:51:00 -
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The only sound way to remove local is also to have ALL asteroid belts removed and have non-staic belts.
Forcing any pirate to scan down his prey and give those carebears a chance, also to hace a constant directional scanner on the UI running all the time.
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Pociomundo
Gallente World Order The Imperial Order
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Posted - 2007.07.12 16:20:00 -
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Originally by: murder one
arn't
If you are going to try and talk down to someone that flamed you citing bad spelling as their error, atleast spell "aren't" correctly yourself.
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FT Diomedes
Gallente Ductus Exemplo
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Posted - 2007.07.12 19:47:00 -
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I posted this topic over in General Discussion. Should be fun to see whether it gets a different reaction when a newbie carebear starts the topic than when a hardened killer suggests it.
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Nicocat
Caldari New Age Solutions New Age Solutions Amalgamated
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Posted - 2007.07.12 20:39:00 -
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I hope I'm not the only one that likes watching murder one cry like a sissy ;)
Nerfing local would only add a line or two to chinese scripts:
timer 10 seconds{ Scan system If ship found, SS and cloak Else remain aligned to SS }
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FT Diomedes
Gallente Ductus Exemplo
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Posted - 2007.07.12 21:23:00 -
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Originally by: Nicocat I hope I'm not the only one that likes watching murder one cry like a sissy ;)
Nerfing local would only add a line or two to chinese scripts:
timer 10 seconds{ Scan system If ship found, SS and cloak Else remain aligned to SS }
There are always ships in local...
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murder one
Gallente Death of Virtue FreeFall Securities
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Posted - 2007.07.12 23:51:00 -
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Originally by: Pociomundo
Originally by: murder one
arn't
If you are going to try and talk down to someone that flamed you citing bad spelling as their error, atleast spell "aren't" correctly yourself.
I like easter eggs.
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murder one
Gallente Death of Virtue FreeFall Securities
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Posted - 2007.07.13 00:05:00 -
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Taipan Gedscho, Ft Diomede, Keiyrm, Khuwe, Isyel, OrangeAfroMan, et. al. ...
How about assuming that I'm taking all precautions when trying to find targets and *then* think about what you could add to the discussion with respect to useful and valid advice.
For instance: I don't always use 'murder one' as a scout, I have other alts that I have never advertised on the forums that I find ships with.
I use a covert ops, so there isn't the issue of anyone seeing my ship in local, and I immediately cloak once I'm in the system, so there is almost zero chance of someone seeing my covert ops without them physically being there at the entrance gate when I decloak/recloak.
I don't use my scouts to do any killing, they all have positive sec status and aren't (haha) in any corp/alliance that is obviously a PVP/Pirate orginization.
I go to greath lengths to ensure that my targets feel as safe as possible, tipping my hand at the last moment possible. Some targets are literally impossible to kill because it's 160 AU to warp to them from the nearest gate, or even when log-in traps are used, they can STILL warp away before I can get points on the target.
This is simply because local exists as an intelligence tool. If local was removed, none of this would be a problem.
And as for socializing: leave local in, just remove a person showing up in local until they talk, much like alliance chat or similar. Furthermore, we could just remove local all together, and force people to use constellation or regional chat instead. IMO that would actually increase socialization by a large amount because more people would be aware of each other on a larger scale.
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Vaedian GER
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.07.13 00:29:00 -
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Originally by: Heikki
Originally by: murder one Get rid of local
Won't be enough, we need to get rid of scanner, overview and visual ID as well. The moment I warp my capital in middle of few BSes, they scatter away :(
Or in more serious tone : it wouldn't make the drastic (lasting) change you seem to be hoping for, but would reduce the comminity feeling (and interfactions) we have.[..]
You don't have to kill the local completly, just change it that players only show up in the list *after* they actually said anything. The way it is atm is just stupid.
I also don't see the point how no-local would harm Alliance Warefare, it would only change the Scouts into a much more important profession. Constantly scanning systems, writing down empty POS parked ships, coordinating with other Scouts in different systems at all time. Man... that would be fun... like a real space game!
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FT Diomedes
Gallente Ductus Exemplo
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Posted - 2007.07.13 01:01:00 -
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Originally by: murder one Taipan Gedscho, Ft Diomede, Keiyrm, Khuwe, Isyel, OrangeAfroMan, et. al. ...
How about assuming that I'm taking all precautions when trying to find targets and *then* think about what you could add to the discussion with respect to useful and valid advice.
Fair enough - I really shouldn't expect any less from someone who generally takes a professional approach to the game.
Anyway, I agree with you about modifying local so that it is no longer an intelligence tool - unless someone wants to advertise that they are present.
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murder one
Gallente Death of Virtue FreeFall Securities
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Posted - 2007.07.13 03:10:00 -
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Originally by: FT Diomedes
Originally by: murder one Taipan Gedscho, Ft Diomede, Keiyrm, Khuwe, Isyel, OrangeAfroMan, et. al. ...
How about assuming that I'm taking all precautions when trying to find targets and *then* think about what you could add to the discussion with respect to useful and valid advice.
Fair enough - I really shouldn't expect any less from someone who generally takes a professional approach to the game.
Anyway, I agree with you about modifying local so that it is no longer an intelligence tool - unless someone wants to advertise that they are present.
Thanks for the complement, and not being as simple minded as the rest of these trolls.
I guess these days I need to pre-qualify every statement with a supreme amount of detail to not get flamed. All the stuff I take for granted as 'standard procedure' everyone else thinks is new and innovative.
Just think of how much less of a problem there would be with ISK farmers in 0.0 if there were no local. Even if they *did* manage to cloak before you could get a lock on them, and tried to log, if you had an interceptor with a smartbomb you could even aggro them before they logged, no locking needed, and then probe them out after they warped off.
How's that for 'outside the box'?
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Taipan Gedscho
Muzzletov Gewaltski Inc.
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Posted - 2007.07.13 11:46:00 -
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i never flamed your idea. there's nothing wrong with it.
given the right modifications (or even none at all!) removing local will improve eve as a whole. like FT said, space will be a much bigger place. and i think thats good. I, for my part, like the idea.
and no, man, you dont have to type out every single detail. but you REALLY made it look like you use murder one most of the time. but really... the few, the proud, the elite... shouldnt 10 minutes be enough to catch SOME of them?
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Major Stormer
Caldari Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2007.07.13 11:47:00 -
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Originally by: murder one
Originally by: Pociomundo
Originally by: murder one
arn't
If you are going to try and talk down to someone that flamed you citing bad spelling as their error, atleast spell "aren't" correctly yourself.
I like easter eggs.
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Vrabac
Amarr Shadowed Souls
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Posted - 2007.07.13 12:08:00 -
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Originally by: murder one When you have spelling errors in your post while trying (poorly) to talk down to someone, it makes you look like a complete and total imbecile.
(...)
Back to the point at hand: you're an idiot.
Can't be both, can he?
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Iteken Hotori
Minmatar GTE Corp
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Posted - 2007.07.13 12:59:00 -
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Originally by: murder one Just think of how much less of a problem there would be with ISK farmers in 0.0 if there were no local. {snip - technical stuff} How's that for 'outside the box'?
Like it too :)
I see a major problem though. I honestly don;t believe that it will solve much. It could even make your life harder.
I see a improved ship scanning ystem workginliek Exploration probes. You slap one in the system, and it tells you whatis there withing 120+ seconds depending on skills, youthen sort through that, adn start playin 'probe down the person' whilst they are simultainiously runnign their own probes tryign to find new people in system.
You are as aware as i am about how under-populated most of 0.0 & low-sec is. even 60%+ of high-sec systems have very very few people in them.
I think the amount of time you would waste searching for a system with real live people in it would far outweigh any benefit to either hunters or hunted. It would mainly make gate-camping and sentry tanking more prevalent, and drive the practically non-existant profession of ninja-ratting and 0.0 drifting out of the game.
The game shouldnt' only be balanced around risk vs reward, but also time vs reward. spendign 15+ mins per system looking for peopel that are not there, is daft. Hell, even with a belt-ratter, say you scan them down roughtly, then narrow that search with probes. by the time you have it down, they will ahve gone to another, pre-scanned belt, forcing you to start over again.
i see how local is fustrating, however, i can't see how any system could do anythig but massively fustrate players.
ps. I've been to the pub, sorry about my spelling ;)
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Prall
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Posted - 2007.07.13 13:11:00 -
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Originally by: murder one When you have spelling errors in your post while trying (poorly) to talk down to someone, it makes you look like a complete and total imbecile.
And picking up on someoneÆs bad grammar when it has absolutely nothing to-do with the argument at hand is the oldest way possible of saying 'I have no solid way in which to respond to your argument, so instead I will insult you for no reason due to the fact that your right and I don't want anyone on the forum to see me beaten as it would ruin my life'.
Anyway, he was right. ADAPT; don't whine when the tactic you've been using for god knows how long stops working because people start to think. Move systems, regions what ever. Or stop posting all over the forums then people won't even know your name.
I await you BS filled reply.
BuBye.
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FT Diomedes
Gallente Ductus Exemplo
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Posted - 2007.07.13 13:26:00 -
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Originally by: Prall
Originally by: murder one When you have spelling errors in your post while trying (poorly) to talk down to someone, it makes you look like a complete and total imbecile.
And picking up on someoneÆs bad grammar when it has absolutely nothing to-do with the argument at hand is the oldest way possible of saying 'I have no solid way in which to respond to your argument, so instead I will insult you for no reason due to the fact that your right and I don't want anyone on the forum to see me beaten as it would ruin my life'.
Anyway, he was right. ADAPT; don't whine when the tactic you've been using for god knows how long stops working because people start to think. Move systems, regions what ever. Or stop posting all over the forums then people won't even know your name.
I await you BS filled reply.
BuBye.
Or, instead of responding to the original post and ignoring the rest of the thread, you could see how he responded to the half-dozen people who already gave him the same response.
As for his use of covert-ops alts, I just finished running correlation analysis comparing the names of every person in the system within 5 minutes of each kill on murder one's killboard for the past month. I'm pretty sure I have all of his alts' names down now. Anyone who wants the list can send me 100 million ISK.
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Riho
Gallente Magnificent Beavers Exquisite Malevolence
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Posted - 2007.07.13 13:33:00 -
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they shouldnt remove local...
they should make it that you only show up there when you talk. so ppl can still talk and ask advice if needed in that channel :)
you cant cut ppl 100% off from others like that.
ppl who want to talk in local can and will be seen and ppl who dont want to be seen in local wount show up in the local chat. simple --------------------------------------- Sig killed by MODs.... reworking it Great being Gallente... aint it ? ----------------- YARRRR, sig hijack! -HornFrog ----------------- |
Taipan Gedscho
Muzzletov Gewaltski Inc.
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Posted - 2007.07.13 14:30:00 -
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there are tons of channels, for every possible situation and piece of advice you can seek.
so (im just pointing it out, i dont necessarily want to advertise it) i think we could do just fine without the local channel. or the option to join and leave it like every other channel.
but.. tbh id really like the idea of only being able to open comms with other pilots in system in a certain range, maybe by selecting them in the scanner or something.
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