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Atticus Fynch
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Posted - 2012.01.09 20:21:00 -
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Hauling is a big part of EVE, yet there are no certificates for it and it is not recognized as a bonfide career choice in EVE. No hauling specific skills either.
Hauling is more than just moving cargo. There is alot of prep involved especially when moving through low/null.
Haulers need more representaion in EVE. Ideas to balance carebears and non-combat ships. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=605757&#post605757 |
ElQuirko
The Demonfuge Malevolent Fan Club
301
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Posted - 2012.01.09 20:23:00 -
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Maybe you would get listened to if you stopped whining about rebalancing. |
Karl Planck
Heretic University Heretic Nation
104
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Posted - 2012.01.09 20:25:00 -
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wtf is with your whine threads fynch. |
indiana bones
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
26
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Posted - 2012.01.09 20:25:00 -
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Can you get qualifications for breathing? No, it's just part of life and you get on and do it.
Hauling in EVE is just the same, don't expext to be rewarded for it. |
True Sight
Deep Freeze Industries
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Posted - 2012.01.09 20:26:00 -
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tbh I'd just be happy for lvl 4/5 missions that get you to carry freighter loads across empire. why do they stop at stuff that needs a basic indy when a combat mission scales in difficulty until you need a hundred million ISK ship with T2 fittings. |
Atticus Fynch
296
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Posted - 2012.01.09 20:32:00 -
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indiana bones wrote:Can you get qualifications for breathing? No, it's just part of life and you get on and do it.
Hauling in EVE is just the same, don't expext to be rewarded for it.
Same can be said for "harvesting", "navigation" and other "just breathing" career choices. Yet there are certificates for them. Ideas to balance carebears and non-combat ships. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=605757&#post605757 |
Ai Shun
State War Academy Caldari State
115
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Posted - 2012.01.09 20:35:00 -
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Atticus Fynch wrote:No hauling specific skills either.
Really? My primary career is as a hauler. I fly contracts, hauling crap for people from one end of New Eden to the other. I enjoy that, because I can sit down with a glass of wine, a book and warp to 0 all the time. It satisfies me. Thus far, I've found a number of skills that make me more effective.
Apart from the various Spaceship Command based skills, such as the Industrial ones and the Freighter ones there are the Tech II Industrial skills required. You know, the kind of skills you need if you want to do Blockade Running or others.
Then, you can combine that with a modest amount of production and Planetary Interaction to help in manufacturing because hey, we know flying empty is lost income, right? And then, there are Courier missions. Fairly simple and an easy way to build up standing for the Industrialist. But then your Social skills come into play as well.
Just broaden your horizons. Hauling, as a career, is great.
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Ursula LeGuinn
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Posted - 2012.01.09 20:44:00 -
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The thing is: At its most basic level, "hauling" involves simply placing something in a cargo hold and moving it from Point A to Point B. Since a newly created character can do this easily, it makes little or no sense to have a straightforward "hauling" certificate.
There's very little need to have "advanced hauling" certificates for DSTs, BRs, freighters or JFs. If you can fly them, you're qualified to haul in them. The main differences once you're minimally qualified boil down to agility, align time, warp strength, cloaking capability, and tank. Existing certifications already cover all of that.
Also, lol@ people giving a damn about certificates. "The EVE forums are intended to provide a warm, friendly atmosphere for the EVE community."-áGÇö-áEVElopedia |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
1982
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Posted - 2012.01.09 20:44:00 -
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Hauling services counts as carreers imo
/c
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Jita Alt666
860
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Posted - 2012.01.09 20:46:00 -
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Its easier and safer to train your own jf alts |
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Ursula LeGuinn
19
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Posted - 2012.01.09 20:47:00 -
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Chribba wrote:Hauling services counts as carreers imo
/c
Do you guys really need a certificate after this?
EVE's very own Statue of Chribberty has spoken, that's all the certification any reasonable person could want. "The EVE forums are intended to provide a warm, friendly atmosphere for the EVE community."-áGÇö-áEVElopedia |
Atticus Fynch
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Posted - 2012.01.09 20:51:00 -
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Ursula LeGuinn wrote:Chribba wrote:Hauling services counts as carreers imo
/c Do you guys really need a certificate after this? EVE's very own Statue of Chribberty has spoken, that's all the certification any reasonable person could want.
If I was runing a hauling corp, I woul look at certificates so a pilot could meet minimum requirments in my corp. Especially if I am providing the ships/materials/colateral. Ideas to balance carebears and non-combat ships. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=605757&#post605757 |
Ursula LeGuinn
19
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Posted - 2012.01.09 21:01:00 -
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Atticus Fynch wrote:If I was runing a hauling corp, I woul look at certificates so a pilot could meet minimum requirments in my corp. Especially if I am providing the ships/materials/colateral.
You could spend one minute checking their skills visually. Do hauling corps have so many people clamoring to get in that you need that extra 30-45 seconds of time savings?
All right, let's say CCP implements hauling certificates. What should they be called, and what skills would they include? Surely those of you who feel a strong need for hauling certificates have some idea. I'm not talking about general descriptions of things that might be in certificates, I'm talking about:
[Certificate Name] Skill name Skill name Skill name Skill name
Chances are, once you actually sit down to do this instead of complaining that you're unrecognized by the certification system, you'll find that these certificates are either very short lists (and so not useful) or simply redundant with already-existing certificates. "The EVE forums are intended to provide a warm, friendly atmosphere for the EVE community."-áGÇö-áEVElopedia |
Atticus Fynch
296
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Posted - 2012.01.09 21:02:00 -
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Ursula LeGuinn wrote:Atticus Fynch wrote:If I was runing a hauling corp, I woul look at certificates so a pilot could meet minimum requirments in my corp. Especially if I am providing the ships/materials/colateral. You could spend one minute checking their skills visually. Do hauling corps have so many people clamoring to get in that you need that extra 30-45 seconds of time savings? All right, let's say CCP implements hauling certificates. What should they be called, and what skills would they include? Surely those of you who feel a strong need for hauling certificates have some idea. I'm not talking about general descriptions of things that might be in certificates, I'm talking about: [Certificate Name] Skill name Skill name Skill name Skill name Chances are, once you actually sit down to do this instead of complaining that you're unrecognized by the certification system, you'll find that these certificates are either very short lists (and so not useful) or simply redundant with already-existing certificates.
Just becuase you dont find certificates useful doesnt mean everyone else doesnt.
EDIT: Look at it this way, is it easier for me to see your college degree or to look through the list of specific classes you took for that degree? Ideas to balance carebears and non-combat ships. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=605757&#post605757 |
KrakizBad
Eve Defence Force Fatal Ascension
181
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Posted - 2012.01.09 21:03:00 -
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If you have to look at certificates to validate someone's skills, you need to not be a recruiter. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/39006524/DumbHiseccers.jpg |
rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
208
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Posted - 2012.01.09 21:03:00 -
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Atticus too many people do combat missions or pvp or do incursions to there isnt a big need for hauling. Plus people who would need it sometimes do get haulers themselves to haul. But there is some hauling industry or career but for those reasons its a bit smaller. Maybe other reasons how knows. Threads like this generally result in anything positive.
Locked. |
Leeroy McJenkins
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.01.09 21:04:00 -
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Ai Shun wrote:Atticus Fynch wrote:No hauling specific skills either. Really? My primary career is as a hauler. I fly contracts, hauling crap for people from one end of New Eden to the other. I enjoy that, because I can sit down with a glass of wine, a book and warp to 0 all the time. It satisfies me. Thus far, I've found a number of skills that make me more effective.
Obviously moving shat from one steaming pile to another while drinking **** is worthy of a piece of paper. |
Ursula LeGuinn
19
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Posted - 2012.01.09 21:17:00 -
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I demand that "station camping" be formally recognized in EVE's certificate system. Here is my proposal:
[Station Camping, Basic] ****-talking III
And there you have it. I expect to see this in-game immediately.
"The EVE forums are intended to provide a warm, friendly atmosphere for the EVE community."-áGÇö-áEVElopedia |
Flakey Foont
Republic University Minmatar Republic
96
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Posted - 2012.01.09 21:20:00 -
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I thought you were quitting. |
Ai Shun
State War Academy Caldari State
116
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Posted - 2012.01.09 21:42:00 -
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Leeroy McJenkins wrote:Obviously moving shat from one steaming pile to another while drinking **** is worthy of a piece of paper.
**** no, it does not. It's something you do because you enjoy it; not because you have a piece of paper saying you can do it.
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baltec1
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Posted - 2012.01.09 22:03:00 -
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Atticus Fynch wrote:
If I was runing a hauling corp, I woul look at certificates so a pilot could meet minimum requirments in my corp. Especially if I am providing the ships/materials/colateral.
My first trip would be to the kill boards. My next call would be to find out if they cleaned out anyone. |
The Old Chap
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
58
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Posted - 2012.01.09 22:14:00 -
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Hauling is only something you do around other stuff. It is not an end in itself, or a career.
It is only necessary to move stuff: Ore when you mine, commodities from your PI, loot from your mission running, your sh!t when you relocate to another station. Look into my eyes...-á-á and tighten that sphincter, kid. |
Alara IonStorm
1339
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Posted - 2012.01.09 22:29:00 -
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Flakey Foont wrote:I thought you were quitting. Not empty quoting this.
KrakizBad wrote:If you have to look at certificates to validate someone's skills, you need to not be a recruiter. Or this.
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Clementina
The Scope
44
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Posted - 2012.01.09 23:55:00 -
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You do know that there is a hauling corporation in Eve right? Surely you have heard of Red Frog Right? They even have recruiting standards if you are interested in seeing how people handle that sort of thing without whining. |
Zleon Leigh
45
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Posted - 2012.01.09 23:59:00 -
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Bots don't have careers.
Incarna - Newest business example of mismanaged capital.
CCP - Continuing to gank independent PI producers every day |
Ai Shun
State War Academy Caldari State
117
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Posted - 2012.01.10 00:18:00 -
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Clementina wrote:You do know that there is a hauling corporation in Eve right? Surely you have heard of Red Frog Right? They even have recruiting standards if you are interested in seeing how people handle that sort of thing without whining.
Push Industries seems to be getting a good number of recommendations and appear to be a very competent group of pilots. |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
1072
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Posted - 2012.01.10 00:19:00 -
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Atticus Fynch wrote:Hauling is a big part of EVE, yet there are no certificates for it and it is not recognized as a bonfide career choice in EVE. No hauling specific skills either.
Hauling is more than just moving cargo. There is alot of prep involved especially when moving through low/null.
Haulers need more representaion in EVE.
Because hauling has no chance of making somebody else want to jump off a bridge?
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CCP Spitfire
C C P C C P Alliance
1273
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Posted - 2012.01.10 10:25:00 -
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Offtopic posts removed.
CCP Spitfire | Russian Community Coordinator @ccp_spitfire |
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Jagga Spikes
Spikes Chop Shop
63
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Posted - 2012.01.10 12:50:00 -
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i just want to express my appreciation to people that keep completing my courier contracts. you are doing a great job. thanks! |
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