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Drykor
Minmatar Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2007.07.22 18:52:00 -
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Hello,
Because I want to improve my standing to the Amarr empire so I don't get shot in highsec Amarr, and I have no access to Amarr agents due to -5 standing, I'm looking for some Amarr low sec mission runners that will let me join them on a few of their missions and will turn the mission in as a gang, preferably level 4's. Especially the storyline ones are important. I will pay you for this, next to helping you finish them more quickly of course. Send me an evemail or reply here if you're interested. I can tank most level 4 missions so this could be a good opportunity for you to run some.
Btw, I don't run some faction pimped out ships, so people that want to try to gank me while in gang do not need to bother.
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Iracham
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.07.22 19:16:00 -
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I have terrible amarr/caldari standing and nothing happens when I enter their space, the only problems you should have is if you have low CONCORD standing.
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Carniflex
Caldari Fallout Research Fallout Project
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Posted - 2007.07.22 19:28:00 -
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This will not help you as if your faction is under -2 then no matter what those faction agents do not talk to you. You will not get faction standings from shared missions.
It is also highly unlikely that any low sec missionrunner would let someone they dont know very well near themselvses. You do not need even to be in same region for shared reward to work so you can hire as well some high sec missionrunner who will break gang as soon as he sees you in local. Mutch safer for both sides.
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Drykor
Minmatar Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2007.07.22 19:31:00 -
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Originally by: Iracham I have terrible amarr/caldari standing and nothing happens when I enter their space, the only problems you should have is if you have low CONCORD standing.
Actually, below -5 you're getting shot.
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Drykor
Minmatar Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2007.07.22 19:32:00 -
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Edited by: Drykor on 22/07/2007 19:32:01
Originally by: Carniflex This will not help you as if your faction is under -2 then no matter what those faction agents do not talk to you. You will not get faction standings from shared missions.
It is also highly unlikely that any low sec missionrunner would let someone they dont know very well near themselvses. You do not need even to be in same region for shared reward to work so you can hire as well some high sec missionrunner who will break gang as soon as he sees you in local. Mutch safer for both sides.
Hmm would like to test that first bit, if not I'm simply screwed. The second part, that is fine too, if I still get a standing increase. If anyone wants to do this, contact me.
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Leandro Salazar
The Blackguard Wolves
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Posted - 2007.07.22 19:50:00 -
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Afaik, faction standing is NOT shared between the mission gang. Iirc it even was a dev that said it recently in a thread around here.
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Weeka
Amarr Krieger des Lichts
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Posted - 2007.07.22 20:12:00 -
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Originally by: Leandro Salazar Afaik, faction standing is NOT shared between the mission gang. Iirc it even was a dev that said it recently in a thread around here.
You're right .. corporation standing is shared, faction standing is not.
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Toria Nynys
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.07.22 22:47:00 -
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As far as I know it is no longer possible to fix faction standing once it drops below -5 (-2 adjusted by diplomacy). It's a one way trip. And having standings with a corp won't help, faction -2 standings prohibit you from talking to agents even if you have 10.0 standings with that corp.
Luckily the no-standings gain bug happened just as I was -4.something to Amarr and Caldari, or we'd both be in the same boat right now.
If you're *just* at -5 to Amarr/Caldari allies you can still recover. Train diplomacy to rank 5, and put in a 5% diplomacy implant, and start grinding those level 1s.
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Carniflex
Caldari Fallout Research Fallout Project
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Posted - 2007.07.23 04:06:00 -
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Originally by: Toria Nynys As far as I know it is no longer possible to fix faction standing once it drops below -5 (-2 adjusted by diplomacy). It's a one way trip. And having standings with a corp won't help, faction -2 standings prohibit you from talking to agents even if you have 10.0 standings with that corp.
Luckily the no-standings gain bug happened just as I was -4.something to Amarr and Caldari, or we'd both be in the same boat right now.
If you're *just* at -5 to Amarr/Caldari allies you can still recover. Train diplomacy to rank 5, and put in a 5% diplomacy implant, and start grinding those level 1s.
As soon as your modified faction standings (with diplomacy) get above -2 you can talk to any agents you would have acsess normally. If you do not have any standings to start off but have enough isk to hire someone then easiest solution is to get some reasonable agent from the 'personal standings'. Those rise approx 2x as fast as corp standings (meaning you will gain acsess to that particular 'good' agent relatively fast and can grind on from there on your own). Getting good quality L4 agent from personal standings takes around 40 missions give or take approx 10 - depending what kind of missions you get and where and that is ofc combat missions.
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Lubomir Penev
Dark Nexxus VENOM Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.23 16:56:00 -
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Originally by: Toria Nynys As far as I know it is no longer possible to fix faction standing once it drops below -5 (-2 adjusted by diplomacy). It's a one way trip. And having standings with a corp won't help, faction -2 standings prohibit you from talking to agents even if you have 10.0 standings with that corp.
Wrong, I have terrible Caldari and Amarr standing and when in gets close to -5 skill adjusted (so my Jita shopping is actually endangered) I go do missions for the Khanid Kingdom and when I complete a storyline by derivative standing my Amarr and Caldari standing raise a bit by derivative standing. (and my Gallente and Minmatar standing takes light hit).
I once raised it enough so I could actually run mission for Carthum Conglomerate.
For every faction as long as you have a friendly faction over -2 everything is fixable, i.e. I could likely restore my really bad Angel Cartel standing running missions for Thukker Tribe.
AFAIK another way to raise Caldari standing is to fail a Gallente important storyline.
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Lubomir Penev
Dark Nexxus VENOM Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.23 16:58:00 -
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Originally by: Drykor Hello,
Because I want to improve my standing to the Amarr empire so I don't get shot in highsec Amarr, and I have no access to Amarr agents due to -5 standing.
To complete my previous anwer, look if you have access to Khanid Kingdom or Mordu's Legion Command agents. Grinding them a bit could restore your Amarr and Caldari standing.
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