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Metal Thong
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Posted - 2007.07.26 05:10:00 -
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I appearantly angered a GM and he went into my account and took all my money leaving me with -68 million ISK. Then he tries to say someone was an ISK seller or something vauge like that. No proof, no evidence, no recourse.
This is the world of eve. You are at the whim of people who will ruin you if they don't like what you say. In my case I exercised my first amendment right to free speech, was muzzled (How Stalinist), then the gm went through my wallet and took my stuff.
It can happen to you. Keep your mouths shut.
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K'reemy G'udness
Delicious
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Posted - 2007.07.26 05:12:00 -
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They don't have a 1st amendment in Iceland dumbass.
And quit buying isk. Sincerely, K'reemy ---
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An Anarchyyt
Gallente Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2007.07.26 05:13:00 -
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I guess you shouldn't have bought ISK then.
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Metal Thong
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Posted - 2007.07.26 05:15:00 -
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Wow you're intelligent.
And regardless of what laws they have or haven't in iceland, I am however paying, and playing eve on my computer in the us. Doing so does not require me to surrender my rights. dumbass?
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War Games
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.07.26 05:16:00 -
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Edited by: War Games on 26/07/2007 05:18:51 Well first this is an illegal topic. You should probably email CCP by the means given to you in the EULA.
Second this is the internet, you don't have any rights, unless they are given to you by the forum admin. In this case, you are free to post whatever you want. The consequence is it might be deleted, locked, and you could get a punishment. But feel free to exercise your right.
Third, the game is from Iceland, and last time I checked they didn't ratify a US consititution and Free speech isn't a universal / international right. I believe that is why they included it in our founding document.
Fourth, More than likely you have or someone who has access to your account (BTW It'd be best to be silent if someone did) and your account receieved ISK from an Ebaying or some other ISK dealer. HOWEVER, if you feel that you have been punished unfairly, or you would like an explaination, you could again communicate to the CCP staff through the appropriate channels... such as petition, and then escalation to another GM, and then GM... but at the end of the day the forum isn't the best place to profess innocense... though I'd imagine it does make you feel better as so many do it.
My 2 isk.
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Quote: And regardless of what laws they have or haven't in iceland, I am however paying, and playing eve on my computer in the us. Doing so does not require me to surrender my rights.
Actually, you clicked "I accept" on the EULA... you surrendered everything at the door, much like a firearm on an airplane... you follow the rules of the ride (or game in this case)... What Gaming Dev's really think of you! |
Savage Creampuff
Caldari Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.26 05:18:00 -
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yes, yes, you have rights
and we're all laughing with you, not at you
Quote: I've sent in plenty of petitions but it seems that CCP just doesn't care about me. Without knowledge of market dynamics theres no way I can compete with these griefers
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Metal Thong
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Posted - 2007.07.26 05:20:00 -
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Edited by: Metal Thong on 26/07/2007 05:20:52 everyone is so smug and self righteous. i got the same reaction in-game. ccp is infallable. they can do no wrong. whatever sheeple.
and with regards to this being an 'illegal topic' my gods man grow some stones.
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An Anarchyyt
Gallente Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2007.07.26 05:22:00 -
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How many times have CCP said if you buy ISK it will be taken away from you?
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Metal Thong
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Posted - 2007.07.26 05:23:00 -
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Originally by: Savage Creampuff yes, yes, you have rights
and we're all laughing with you, not at you
OMG you 1337 d00ds are laughing at meh?!?! oh deary me, whatever shall i do. please don't laugh at me anymore lonely loser, you may wound me.
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Metal Thong
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Posted - 2007.07.26 05:23:00 -
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Originally by: An Anarchyyt How many times have CCP said if you buy ISK it will be taken away from you?
Prove it?
oh no one can.
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Dark Shikari
Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.07.26 05:24:00 -
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Originally by: Metal Thong
Originally by: An Anarchyyt How many times have CCP said if you buy ISK it will be taken away from you?
Prove it?
oh no one can.
I think CCP can prove it beyond most reasonable doubts, ISK-buyer
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War Games
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.07.26 05:25:00 -
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Originally by: Metal Thong and with regards to this being an 'illegal topic' my gods man grow some stones.
You aren't one of those "follow the rules except when I get in trouble conservatives" are you? What Gaming Dev's really think of you! |
Metal Thong
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Posted - 2007.07.26 05:26:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari
Originally by: Metal Thong
Originally by: An Anarchyyt How many times have CCP said if you buy ISK it will be taken away from you?
Prove it?
oh no one can.
I think CCP can prove it beyond most reasonable doubts, ISK-buyer
based on? blind faith? what you WANT to believe? yep, everything is exactly as you think at first brush. books with torn covers are always terribly written as well.
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Amaron Ghant
Caldari CyberDyne Industries Te-Ka
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Posted - 2007.07.26 05:27:00 -
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Tough luck.
Whining about here isn't the way to get it fixed.
Why should people keep thier mouths shut by the way? Surely if you have the right to free speech under your vaunted constitution, then surely that right extends to people who disagree with your whining?
Petition a senior G.M if you've got a complaint, but be VERY sure of your facts. |
Metal Thong
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Posted - 2007.07.26 05:28:00 -
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Originally by: War Games
Originally by: Metal Thong and with regards to this being an 'illegal topic' my gods man grow some stones.
You aren't one of those "follow the rules except when I get in trouble conservatives" are you?
Well first off...I don't know what you mean by that exactly. But I'm not a cheater and I defy anyone to prove I am. I know they cannot.
I guess what surprises me is how cowed you people are.
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War Games
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.07.26 05:28:00 -
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Originally by: Metal Thong
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I think CCP can prove it beyond most reasonable doubts, ISK-buyer
based on? blind faith? what you WANT to believe? yep, everything is exactly as you think at first brush. books with torn covers are always terribly written as well.
Point - Counterpoint...
Disprove it... you can't and we aren't going to trust you... I am going to be putting my "faith" with the company with the server, who fights ISK sellers AND ISK buyers equally. It's not about torn covers... but if the book has a torn cover it's value is alot less than those with it intact. What Gaming Dev's really think of you! |
An Anarchyyt
Gallente Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2007.07.26 05:28:00 -
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Edited by: An Anarchyyt on 26/07/2007 05:28:58
Originally by: Metal Thong
Originally by: An Anarchyyt How many times have CCP said if you buy ISK it will be taken away from you?
Prove it?
oh no one can.
One of Many. Second Sentence and first paragraph in general.
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Krulla
Minmatar True Centii
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Posted - 2007.07.26 05:29:00 -
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I'm not sure, but I think the United States of America first Constitutional Amendment does not extent to Iceland, or EvE Online.
Also, don't be a moron, don't buy ISK.
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Eth1
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Posted - 2007.07.26 05:29:00 -
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Edited by: Eth1 on 26/07/2007 05:31:29
Originally by: Metal Thong Wow you're intelligent.
And regardless of what laws they have or haven't in iceland, I am however paying, and playing eve on my computer in the us. Doing so does not require me to surrender my rights. dumbass?
Is really strange when peaople have 'problems' of any kind with law, they start talking about rights. But they forgetting their OBLIGATIONS.
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Admiral Shallow
Gallente Shadow KnighT Productions
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Posted - 2007.07.26 05:30:00 -
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Originally by: Metal Thong
Originally by: An Anarchyyt How many times have CCP said if you buy ISK it will be taken away from you?
Prove it?
oh no one can.
Supply the last week of Journals from your wallet?? any large transactions that have been made might be isk buying/selling.... They wnt do that for a reason
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Metal Thong
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Posted - 2007.07.26 05:30:00 -
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Originally by: Amaron Ghant Tough luck.
Whining about here isn't the way to get it fixed.
Why should people keep thier mouths shut by the way? Surely if you have the right to free speech under your vaunted constitution, then surely that right extends to people who disagree with your whining?
Petition a senior G.M if you've got a complaint, but be VERY sure of your facts.
Taking a slap at the Constitution out of what....jealously? are you a subject rather than a citizen? you are used to just taking the word of the State (in this case a faceless GM) because surely they can't be wrong and always have your best interests in mind?
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An Anarchyyt
Gallente Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2007.07.26 05:32:00 -
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Originally by: Krulla I'm not sure, but I think the United States of America first Constitutional Amendment does not extent to Iceland, or EvE Online.
Also, don't be a moron, don't buy ISK.
Unfortunatly, the second amendment doesn't work right now.
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Spoony Brook
The Really Awesome Players
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Posted - 2007.07.26 05:33:00 -
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Originally by: Admiral Shallow
Originally by: Metal Thong
Originally by: An Anarchyyt How many times have CCP said if you buy ISK it will be taken away from you?
Prove it?
oh no one can.
Supply the last week of Journals from your wallet?? any large transactions that have been made might be isk buying/selling.... They wnt do that for a reason
this. ---------------
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Richard Aiel
Caldari MicroFunks
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Posted - 2007.07.26 05:34:00 -
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Originally by: Metal Thong
In my case I exercised my first amendment right to free speech
Free speech doesnt exist in EVE
The constitution doesnt exist it EVE
The constitution stops at the EULA (which in this case has more power than the constitution of our country)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.. We have never, nor will we ever, hack, ddos, or otherwise use OUT OF GAME means to gain ANY advantage.- Dianabolic
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An Anarchyyt
Gallente Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2007.07.26 05:38:00 -
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Originally by: Kenneys Your right to free speech doesn't mean you should be flaunting it and ****ing off people with power.
You = ****ed off a GM -You have no power or authority. Only "free speech!!!!".
GM = Abused power (Illegal action) -has the power to cover his tracks up and do anything he wants to you.
Moral value : Be cool, and don't **** off people in power positions because your mood sucks.
If he ****ed off a GM, and the GM did anything, it is missing here. All it says is that he is upset that the GM did his job because this guy was dumb and bought ISK.
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Metal Thong
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Posted - 2007.07.26 05:38:00 -
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Originally by: Richard Aiel
Originally by: Metal Thong
In my case I exercised my first amendment right to free speech
Free speech doesnt exist in EVE
The constitution doesnt exist it EVE
The constitution stops at the EULA (which in this case has more power than the constitution of our country)
LOL just because you say it, it is true?
I'm sorry are we in magic land where we can just speak reality into being.
Regardless of agreements made, free speech and human rights exist. Baffles me how you supposedly enlightened people (i'm assuming educated above the par more or less) are so willing to put up with corporate fascisim. Ya know Wal-Mart locked employees inside their stores at night so they would work harder, they even managed to convince 99% of the victims of this crime that it was OK.
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War Games
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.07.26 05:39:00 -
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Edited by: War Games on 26/07/2007 05:41:22
Originally by: Kenneys GM = Abused power (Illegal action) -has the power to cover his tracks up and do anything he wants to you.
You probably won'tthink this is true... but that's not how it works :-). They always get caught when they abuse their power. A GM that is.
:-) What Gaming Dev's really think of you! |
An Anarchyyt
Gallente Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2007.07.26 05:39:00 -
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Edited by: An Anarchyyt on 26/07/2007 05:39:04
Originally by: Taydess
Originally by: An Anarchyyt
I guess you shouldn't have bought ISK then.
Not only are you now my goddamn hero, but I'm stealing this and using it as many times as possible <3
It comes in handy around here. I suggest we post it in every whine.
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Kirex
Gallente Vale Heavy Industries Molotov Coalition
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Posted - 2007.07.26 05:40:00 -
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No one thinks about the children! :(
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Stanya
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Posted - 2007.07.26 05:40:00 -
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No. But when they have a proven isk seller, they ban him and take back all the money he passed out.... You receive any of that money it gets take from you...
Shouldn't buy isk...
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